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PUTTING THE U IN WINNING UGLY

Florida 23, Miami 3. Suck it, 1985.

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Tim Tebow makes me feel like a selfish, pathetic little puke. Thinking about him handing out jerseys and playing catch with east Asian orphans brings a tear to my eye. What a great human being.

by Tim on Sep 6, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I always thought the 1985 thing was bullshit anyways. If the Gators and Canes had meet any year from 1995 and 1999, the Gators would have been favored by at least 10 in any of those years.

by John on Sep 6, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Was I the only one sober enough to make it to the end where Florida made it 26-3?

by etsuVol on Sep 6, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

“If the Gators and Canes had meet any year from 1995 and 1999, the Gators would have been favored by at least 10 in any of those years.”

Fair enough. But what would’ve happened from ’88 to ’94? Gators still favored by 10?

At any rate, the Gators are the better team. They won. It is what it is.

by Diallo on Sep 6, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, now I know what it feels like to go to a soccer game.

by Tractorr on Sep 6, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope etsuVol, I saw that last field goal too.

by Year2-Dave on Sep 6, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

You mock the fuck out of Kansas football but SEC fans make me feel better about myself. Just think about how good a writer you’d be without the massive levels of bacon grease and high fructose corn syrup rattling around in your noggin.

by petejayhawk on Sep 6, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

If Tebow was the true saint they have been selling us he would have gone out there and tackled his own kicker before allowing him to run up the score. (I also think all of that asian orphan footage was staged on a movie set in Chatsworth, Ca.)

by TheMightyErik on Sep 6, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Jesus, Pete, not in the face!

by Holly on Sep 6, 2008 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

The stuff they film in Chatsworth is a little more NSFW than that.

by ClydeB on Sep 7, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Diallo,

From 1988 to 1994, Miami would have been favored every year except 1993.

I’m certainly not taking away from Miami. Up until the Sugar Bowl loss, they were on the best 10-year run in college football history. It’s just the whole “Florida hasn’t beaten Miami since 1985” thing suggests as though Miami has been better than Florida during that entire stretch, and that’s just simply not the case.

by John on Sep 7, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

was it as obvious to everyone else that the canes avoided pressure by rolling out their qbs and the gators didnt?

by chaimy4life on Sep 7, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I love it that others know what Chatsworth is good at…

by TheMightyErik on Sep 7, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

FUCK YEAH/ at freshman corss cournty paryt.

by BurritoBrosShits on Sep 7, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

petejayhawk @ 6 – Doesn’t someone in Kansas making bacon and corn syrup comments have sort of pot-kettle-black quality? Also, do substances in a liquid state (that aren’t glass) really rattle?

by DC Trojan on Sep 7, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Stanford has cleverly started running the “defensive pass interference” offense this drive.

by ClydeB on Sep 7, 2008 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Pete, have you looked at your head coach lately? Good lord….

by TheMightyErik on Sep 7, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

The last field goal was kicked to cover the spread for all the UF fans with gambling problems. CUM expects a cut.

by Obvious on Sep 7, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

That last 3 was for Howard, “Suck it! you old drunk!”

That was a true ALCOA great moment in Gambling history.

by Kerwin4two on Sep 7, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn, ECU looks impressive…OLE Miss should have won…Guess who didnt look impressive…Bama, tOSU, WfVU, 1st half of Florida,Michigan….It was like I was watching NFL Preseason half ass football…..Yeh we won our game, but you take away the punt returns and block kick and we won 10-6. We suck. Back to earth Bama fans, he we come 7-5….

by Mr.Pelican Pants on Sep 7, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Back to the farm with ye stanfurd. Now if Texas can get it together and finish the Miners off…

by ClydeB on Sep 7, 2008 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Who was the Chicken cotton-picker that called off the Miami-Florida game as annual series? This game should be played each year.

by Harvey Wireman on Sep 7, 2008 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Why is the espn2 crew pimping nbc tv shows? (friday night lights, biggest loser…)

by ClydeB on Sep 7, 2008 12:53 AM EDT reply actions  

@PeteJayHawk

Think of it this way. Stephen Hawking said that he does not resent his illness for he believes that he would not have been the physist he is without it. It is all a part of the package.

If you remove the bacon and corn syrup, you no longer have the monolith that helped SEC ape take the next step in evolution to become SEC man, and we are all for the better.

by meatybob on Sep 7, 2008 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

I am officially sick of hearing about the Locker penalty. We all know it was bullshit, move on.

by John on Sep 7, 2008 1:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Urban Meyer going for a touchdown with a minute left and a 20 point lead. Pure class act.

 I hope he gave the the game ball to the refs for reversing that call where the receiver didn’t come down with the ball.

by DrHolthz on Sep 7, 2008 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Did anyone catch the “go F yourself, Urban” hand shake at the end of the game between Shannon and Meyer? After that ending, I definitely think they should play next year.

by Broom on Sep 7, 2008 3:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I hate Thug U. You want a piece of our Heisman winner #98? TAKE 15 YARDS!

It took our boys a while to get rolling, but once they finally did it was pretty nice. I’m still up celebrating!

You could see the offense and defense feeding off of each other and especially off special teams after that blocked punt. Urb loves those blocked kicks! As he is fond of saying, the team that blocks a kick in a game will win that game 80% of the time (or something rediculous like that, I forget the stat exactly).

I’m a little worried about the O line though, I thought that was supposed to be one of our stronger units. I dunno, bad offensive play calling maybe (as has been mentioned)? I agree that the D looks a lot better but still too soon to tell after only watching vs. Hawaii and a frosh QB.

@2, 11 – It is BS. I read somewhere that the ’Canes never played a Spurrier team in the regular season. No doubt that Miami was one of the most dominant programs of the modern era, but there were a lot of down years for them as well in the last twenty years when we never played them.

@3 – I was enjoying every minute of it right up until the last. I was just disappointed that 52 yd bomb was called back due to some stupid movement on the line. I wish they would have hung half a hundred on ’em.

@ 22, 27 – Re: playing every year, Henry over at Saurian Sagacity has a pretty good article debunking the “Florida has been dodging Miami” myth and explaining why we no longer play them anually here. Good article if you haven’t read it.

by ClwFlGator on Sep 7, 2008 6:10 AM EDT reply actions  

this was officially ‘win ugly weekend.’

by kleph on Sep 7, 2008 7:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Seriously, how do you guys respect your d-bag of a coach? A FG to cover the spread with :20 left? Unbelievable.

For the rest of my life I will hate that Arkansas punt returner that stupidly tried to field a punt over his head in the 2006 SECCG and fumbled the momentum right back to Florida. The Gators were on the ropes and Urb had a look like a confused squirrel.

Because of an incredible D that year ‘ol Urb is suddenly a genius. And Charlie Strong still can’t get a HC job anywhere.

by Darkknight on Sep 7, 2008 8:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Can anyone explain to me the call that on the long pass from Tebow to the WR that got hurt on the play? the play that set up the TD that made UF go up 16-3. He clearly lost the ball when he hit the ground. Some very sketchy calls made this weekend that may have changed the outcomes of games; UW celebration, PI agains Ole MIss, and that call in the UF game.

by Salvucci on Sep 7, 2008 8:55 AM EDT reply actions  

I saw the excessive celebration penalty after the fact. While it was a pretty awful call, that’s really no excuse to have a 30 yard field goal blocked.

by dudis41 on Sep 7, 2008 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Salvucci @ 32 — Only need to have some part of you body land in bounds (in this case, the elbow). The replay official determined that the receiver had possession as he was coming down, and the ground can’t cause a fumble.

by Texasball on Sep 7, 2008 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I would bet next month’s mortgage payment that Urban cared more about getting his kicker a field goal attempt in a game situation than covering the spread. Meyer is pays an enormous amount of attention to special teams. We don’t need to be going into the UT game with no FGA’s by our kicker. Lest we all forget, it’s the 10th anniversary of 17-20 in Knoxville on a missed field goal.

by Dave on Sep 7, 2008 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

So the Canes have turned into a bunch of sniveling little whiny bitches, eh? OOO, their coach went for a touchdown with a couple of minutes to go-WAAAAAAA

OOO, their coach kicked a field goal at the end of the game-WAAAAAAA

OOO, our coach showed HIM, by acting like a nutless chickenshit by slapping hands and then running away like a little bitch. WAAAAAAAA

For all of the knucklehead Canes out there, that was just a little payback for your lying sack of shit of a “coach” who seems to be truth-challenged on the recruiting trail.

But don’t worry-why, you’re BACK! 5-7 last year BWAAHAHAHAHA. I think you’re gonna improve to 6-6. At least you might not have a LOSING RECORD this year!

So go ahead and whine and moan and bitch and complain, after all, you’re Canes!

Murphy was right-the University of FLORIDA is THE “U” in the state of Florida once again.

by texigator on Sep 7, 2008 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

ClwFLGator,
Florida is running away from Miami. Urban was asked if he would like to ramp up the rivalry and play more frequently and the answer he gave was “no.” No elaboration, just “no.”

DarkKnight,
don’t give Urban more class than he deserves. Before he kicked a FG with 20 seconds left, he went for a touchdown with 1minute left and a 20 point lead. The man has no class. He is a sore loser and a classless winner.

by DrHolthz on Sep 7, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I have only one question about this game. Where can I find a photo of one of Matt Bosher’s decleaters?

by Digital Headbutt on Sep 7, 2008 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I see noones mentioned this yet.

 ACC, How my ass taste?
Love, MTSU

P.S.
wooo sunbelt conference. esss beee ceeeee speeeeed

by MightyMightyMitzu on Sep 7, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Do bees see God?

by MCab on Sep 7, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

“Kicking that field goal at the end, that was a bad deal right there. It was just a bad deal and Urban Meyer won’t forget that. It was a bad deal.”

At least RS took a higher road than Chan the Man in ‘02. He didn’t get into Urban’s ear and tell him. . . something. (No one knows what Chan said to Richt because neither of them will tell. Richt said it was something about “good luck in the bowl game.” My guess: “Wait until next year.” If I am right, EPIC FUNNY.)

I thought it was very interesting that TT would have been playing there at the end and not just for the sportsmanship reasons. While being concerned with how many FGA the new kicker has before SEC play starts, UM is amazingly unconcerned about the health of The Greatest Player of Our Era™ and the experience of TGPOOE’s back-up. Does he have a back-up? I don’t think I’ve ever seen him play? Just wondering. I’ll hang-up and listen.

by One Jackass in Red Pants! on Sep 7, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Pete, what the hell, man? As a regular poster on this blog, I thought you liked Orson’s writing. Also, I can’t ever remember him unfairly bashing Kansas.

And Digital Headbutt, Bosher is roughly 6’0", 200 lbs and he was tackling a guy who is about 5’6", 175 lbs. And his tackles looked more like him getting run over and hanging on than “decleating”…especially the last one.

by PW on Sep 7, 2008 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

26-3, foos.

by Tolbert1906 on Sep 7, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Kicking the FG is a sweet payback for Howard Schnellenberger’s 1979 time out to kick a FG. The 67 fans of the “U” will remember.

A shame this series can’t be played more often. The udnerdogs in this series play well above their heads (like the fighting Zooks in the Orange Bowl last time) and the hard hitting is just the kind of violence you don’t see much anymore.

But when half the fans at the Miami game are UF fans and the Canes won’t give up the cut (as was the case in the 1980’s when the regular series was scrapped), it is hard to blame the Gators. And who wants to play on the infield skin of Dolphin stadium. The U has players, and not much else of a program these days.

by Gone Gator on Sep 7, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Having Miami bitch about a late FG is comical.

32, I don’t know why you need that call explained to you. Carl Moore went up for the ball, bobbled it in the air, then tucked it away with his right hand as he went down. He landed on his left elbow, in bounds. In college once you are down, you are down. The ball came out after the rest of his body hit the ground. First down.

by Not Baghead on Sep 7, 2008 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

44,

Do you really expect the canes fan to remember anything that happened before Jan 1, 1984?

And my memory is a little foggy, but wasn’t it tha U who vetoed the idea of an annual tilt at the Big Sombrero (at the time) and/or the Citrus Bowl?

by Chas on Sep 7, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

The game in Tampa was a “home” game for Miami. It was a messy time in the series (defending national champions forced to play archrival away from home), aggravated by Miami’s crummy home attendance.

Forgotten is that Spurrier put them back on the schedule (along with putting grass back in the stadium and switching back to blue jersesys, those were SOS’s non $ contract demands when leaving Duke), but the 8th SEC game (added with USC and Arkansas) got them knocked back off except in years when Haley’s Comet appears.

It is a joke UF doesn’t play them more though; the football is excellent, and a welcome respite from the directional schools.

by gone gator on Sep 7, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

It was 26-3. :)

by V on Sep 8, 2008 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 29. Henry’s post seems to ignore most of the available info in order to posit that the Gators stopped playing the Hurricanes after 1987 because the Canes were going on probation in 1995.

34. Unfortunately, you have to retain possession on first contact with the ground. The ground can’t cause a fumble, but it can, and frequently does cause an incompletion.

42. Bosher may be larger, but he is also a placekicker. James may be a smaller player, but he also is, theoretically, a running back.

44. Was there any parallel in this game to a cheerleader, an assistant coach, and Schnellenberger’s son being pelted with frozen fruit? Keep on ignoring the clear reason Howard took the TO and kicked the FG.

by Trick Daddy Doubloons on Sep 8, 2008 5:14 AM EDT reply actions  

It tickles me pink to hear all the name calling and talk of “classlessness” coming from the scUM and anti-Gator crowd. First, and I’ve said it before, if one speaks of “class” one has none. Second, Coach Shannon is a wonderful example of why a university usually hires an adult to coach its teams…high school whining bullshit isn’t attractive at a college level, and an abbreviated run-by handshake speaks more to lack of character than no handshake.

26-3 Florida…has a nice ring to it.

by sb on Sep 8, 2008 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

That hilariously overturned incomplete pass is just one of a litany of SEC Ref Fixin’s….uh, game errors from Saturday’s slate.

“Ground can’t cause a fumble” – you’re a tard. The ground often does cause incompletions when the WR cannot cleanly hold onto the ball and retain possession, and drops it upon impact.

Only happens multiple times a game, hundreds of times a Saturday, you should be familiar with that little rule of CFB by now

by horn on Sep 8, 2008 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

The directionals do not bitch because they know they are a warmup game. UM you are just a warmup game now. Take your payday and stop bitching.

by willet on Sep 8, 2008 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Number 49, I don’t know how any honest reading of my post could come away with the conclusion that you drew. I said it was a matter of money, plain and simple. The idea that UF was ducking Miami out of fear is ridiculous because it would assume that UF had an idea that Miami was forever going to be dominant, an assumption that no team can make about itself or a competitor. I mention Miami’s probation only as an example of how top programs can come back to the pack. You don’t drop an opponent because they are having a good run. You do drop an opponent when you fill their stands with your fans and don’t get any reward for it when you can schedule a lesser school that doesn’t require a return game and keep the gate for yourself.

But nice try, jackass.

by Saurian-Henry on Sep 8, 2008 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

51, when your elbow touches the ground you are down. Moore was carrying the ball in the OTHER arm. Once you are down, with possession as Moore was, the ball can come out (as it did when the rest of his body hit the ground).

Down while possessing the ball = first down for the Gators

by not Baghead on Sep 8, 2008 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey don’t worry Miami fans….UGA rush the field again and kick the crap out of FL for a second straight year.

by Sonny on Sep 8, 2008 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Sonny @ #55…hope springs eternal…

by sb on Sep 8, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

need home and away games every yr…2013 is too far away but it looks like florida dont want that..too bad, they finaly won 1..i think florida and miami should go independents, then they can play eatch other every yr..its only game that i can stay awake for..

by RICK on Sep 8, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

@51

Doesn’t the road team bring their conference ref’s with them? or did the esssss eeeee ceeee deny the almost competitive conference the right after repeated FSU/UF hose jobs in the swamp

by Al-d on Sep 8, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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