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THE H------ COPYRIGHTED TROPHY: ODDS OF CARING, 1000-1


This picture is unrelated, because we cannot use the extremely copyrighted name "H------ Trophy." Carry on.

The odds for the H------- Copyrighted Trophy Not To Be Trifled With are intriguing as always, if only because they attempt to quantify something that is both unscientific and entirely unpredictable: how a bunch of athletes and half-aware sportswriters, under the glare of a media blitz and without a full data set of observed performances or clear criteria, will attempt to choose the best player in college football.

It is speculative garbage in both its ingredients and in the final product, meaning odds based on the likely winner of this process are less than garbage, or some kind of subgarbage garbage talks about in hushed tones at cocktail parties. Even if the process for picking the Trophy Not To Be Trifled with were clearer, the idea of an individual award in a team sport is essentially repugnant to us to begin with, and thus our odds of really caring remain in the neighborhood of us writing this with a caffeine-free bloodstream. (Zero.)

Nevertheless, in the absence of actual football, subgarbage is what we've got. The most interesting odds:

Knowshon Moreno, 8/1; Chase Daniel, 6/1. Eh? Knowshon will get the full glare of multiple CBS and ESPN appearances. Daniel will get the occasional Musbergame and Fox Big 12 game. The media whore needle should move Moreno's number a bit closer to Daniel's, though the Missouri qb's Eminem-esque storyline should help him with the media swing.

Sam Bradford, Oklahoma: 14/1. Not bad odds especially now that the sophomore kibosh is off (Viva Tebow!). Also has both knees, thus differentiating him from Jason White and the lingering regret of voters who went that way.

Michael Crabtree and Pat White: both at 10/1. With the promo push White has--and his relative proximity to national media centers and television exposure--having him even with Crabtree is cracktacular.

Dan Lefevour: 70/1 Ironic in that this may both accurately reflect his chances of winning, and may also be his TD/INT numbers in MAC games this year.

Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame: 80/1 Odds only valid with purchase of red satin Jimmy Clausen drinking jacket.

Full updated odds from Bodog after the jump.

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Tim Tebow (FL) 7/2

Chris Wells (Ohio St.) 6/1

Chase Daniel (Missouri) 6/1

Knowshon Moreno (UGA) 8/1

Michael Crabtree (TTech) 10/1

Pat White (WVU) 10/1

Sam Bradford (Okl) 14/1

DeMarco Murray (Okla) 15/1

Matthew Stafford (UGA) 15/1

Graham Harrell (TTech) 16/1

Percy Harvin (FL) 20/1

LeSean McCoy (Pitt) 22/1

Cullen Harper (Clem) 25/1

P.J. Hill (Wisc) 25/1

Joe McKnight (USC) 25/1

Colt McCoy (Tex) 28/1

Todd Boeckman (OhioSt.) 30/1

Todd Reesing (Kan) 30/1

Javon Ringer (Mich St.) 35/1

Rudy Carpenter (ASU) 35/1

Noel Devine (WVU) 30/1

Juice Williams (ILL) 40/1

John Parker Wilson (Ala) 40/1

Mark Sanchez (USC) 40/1

James Davis (Clem) 50/1

Matt Grothe (USF) 50/1

Ian Johnson (Boise St.) 50/1

Kellen Lewis (Ind) 50/1

C.J. Spiller (Clem) 50/1

Jake Locker (Wash) 50/1

Jeremy Maclin (Missouri) 50/1

Tyrod Taylor (V. Tech) 60/1

Arian Foster (Tenn) 60/1

James Laurinaitis (Ohio St.) 60/1

Curtis Painter (Purdue) 60/1

Stephen McGee (Tex A&M) 60/1

Max Hall (BYU) 65/1

Dan LeFevour (C. Mich) 70/1

Zac Robinson (Ok. State) 75/1

Willie Tuitama (Arz) 75/1

Eric Berry (Tenn) 80/1

Jimmy Clausen (ND) 80/1

Armanti Edwards (App. State) 100/1

Jeremiah Johnson (Ore) 100/1

Terrelle Pryor (Ohio St.) 100/1

Field 8/1

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The fact that Eric Berry gets the same odds as Princess Clausen the Third is a travesty.

by MaconDawg on Aug 19, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Armanti Edwards at 100:1. Longer odds than Jimmy Clausen?

Weak.

by Tricky Dick on Aug 19, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Not touching Clausen’s 80:1 odds with a ten-foot pole, though it’s still a better bet than the 1,000,000:1 odds that his testicles will descend by the end of the ’08 season.

by Doug on Aug 19, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

If James Laurinaitis winsthe Heisman, I’ll eat a pair of his dad’s old tights.
Never has anyone had so many balls thrown diirectly at them and not been able to tackle been so lauded, except for Jenna Haze.

by scalz1 on Aug 19, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Dax Dellenbach is the dark-horse, biznitches.

by NewAZTiger on Aug 19, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

the idea of an individual award in a team sport is essentially repugnant to us to begin with, and thus our odds of really caring remain in the neighborhood of us writing this with a caffeine-free bloodstream.

Who is ‘us’ by the way – are you writing for TCOAN here too? Or is this the ‘royal we’?

by Brian O'Blivion on Aug 19, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Right on, NewAZTiger, bout time long snappers represent up in heah !!

by BamaCPA on Aug 19, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

#7: You know that Tubs outrecruits the snot outta Saban in this area.

Hell, Saban can barely recruit 2 star finger snappers, nevermind 5 star long-snappers.

I’m gunning for Josh Moon’s job!!!

by NewAZTiger on Aug 19, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

wow really?? john parker wilson at 40/1?? john parker himself won’t even touch that action.

ryan perrilloux IS still betting on himself though.

by gerry dorsey on Aug 19, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

However, Joe McKnight at 25/1 wouldn’t be a bad way to blow ten bucks, especially if Mark Sanchez’s kneecap explodes and/or he turns into a self-reloading interception machine (patent pending). And Terrelle Pryor at 100/1 is a sucker bet only a Buckeye could love (and in the case of some Buckeyes, probably will).

by MaconDawg on Aug 19, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

John Parker Wilson has greater odds than Matt Grothe and Thunder and Lightning from Clemson. Unbelievable.

Also, gerry, Perriloux is still gonna win 4 Heismans, just you wait.

by WarCardinals on Aug 19, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting little factoid: Ohio State has never won a bowl game with a Heisman winner on the field.

by poguemahone on Aug 19, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Harvin longer than Stafford? Por qua?

by This Guy on Aug 19, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

poguemahone,

That is not exactly true. We beat Southern Cal in the Rose Bowl to win the 1968 MNC over OJ Simpson who won the Heisman that year. We haven’t won a bowl game after one of our own has won the Heisman in the year they won it.

by Crabapple Buck on Aug 19, 2008 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

war cardinals the problem with thunder and lightning is they are going to take touches/production away from each other.

by gerry dorsey on Aug 19, 2008 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m surprised LeFevour even made the list. I’m not sure if a non-BCS player will ever win; not enough primetime or marquee games.

by Eric on Aug 19, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

If Lefevour performs well at UGA (they will not win), his odds get much better. My pick is Beanie Wells from tOSU. Subcommandante tells me he will get thousands and thousands of yards.

by Captain Kirk on Aug 19, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

@15 -

Gerry, then why are Tebow/Harvin still up there?
They take pressure off each other because the defense can’t key off them. Leinart/Bush comes to mind. But in detail, I do agree, the problem is that they rarely run sets with both on the field and do the same ‘thing’…

by Boozy McHound on Aug 19, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

If the Athletic Club that must not be named fulfills its duty, in a couple of years Eric Berry will continue the string of runner-up Vols begun by Johnny Majors. Odds are 2/5 the Heismort/Voldeman is moot.

by wheatbarley on Aug 19, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Rich Brooks thinks this list is bullshit for not listing Mike Hartline.
COACH Rick Neuheisel would like to bet (oops… pardon the pun) that Kevin Craft makes it to New York as a finalist.

by David on Aug 19, 2008 11:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Tyrod Taylor and James Laurinitis have better odds than Dan LeFevour? That’s some BS right there.

by Digital Headbutt on Aug 20, 2008 8:00 AM EDT reply actions  

[Quote}If James Laurinaitis winsthe Heisman, I’ll eat a pair of his dad’s old tights.
Never has anyone had so many balls thrown diirectly at them and not been able to tackle been so lauded, except for Jenna Haze.[Quote]

121 total tackles (solo and assisted) in 13 games shows that the kid is a monster. He won’t win the heisman.

But Don’t hate.

by Tricky Dick on Aug 20, 2008 8:20 AM EDT reply actions  

What about Julio? WHERE IS JULIO JONES ON THAT LIST

by Tater Salad on Aug 20, 2008 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Bacon taped to a cat?

BRILLIANT!

by intellidouche on Aug 20, 2008 9:10 AM EDT reply actions  

odds are 20/1 that #4 is a penn state fan.

no, make that 1/20.

by Jeff C on Aug 20, 2008 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

7/2 for Shebow?

Anyone with a brain knows that ESPN has already awarded it to him.

Try 1/10000

by Brando on Aug 20, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

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