CURIOUS INDEX, 8/13/2008
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Auburn's practice was "marred" by a fight, showing that for some odd reason reporters and common folk alike labor under the gross misconception that fighting in practice between teammates is a bad thing. Tommy Tuberville came up as a coach under Jimmy Johnson, and Jimmy Johnson is on record as saying that fights in practice are a good thing, and we therefore believe this because Jimmy Johnson is the smartest person to ever coach a football team anywhere.
Lee Ziemba was involved, just as he was in preseason fights last year. This is a clear indication that Lee Ziemba is awesome at what he does, and will be a first-team All-SEC pick at the end of the year. Help. We haven't had the courage to click through yet, so you'll have to tell us what Li'l Red's MySpace page looks like without mentioning too many details, because we will go back to bed and cover our head and not come out for days if it gets too scary. USC's first practice without Mark Sanchez at qb was "sluggish," just as you would expect it to be without the rhythmic carioca shuffling of Sanchez. The Trojans need to dance, to sing, to exult, to sound barbaric yawps from the rooftops of the world! When they are old, they shall wear purple! LEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUHHHHVEEEE!!! YEEEAAAAAAHHHH!!!! If you don't tear a phone book in half after listening to that, well, you'll never tear a phone book in half, will you? Prepare to be boarded, Cracker Barrel! Eastern Carolina stages a PR raid on Cracker Barrel for not carrying enough Pirate Gear. Don't think of the restaurant as being "anti-small school," Pirate fans. Cracker Barrel is attempting to accommodate your requests, and would like to apologize for the inconvenience. Plus, they try to focus on being racist and homophobic, which leaves so little time for an anti-ECU bias it's absurd. Navy to be short at qb and in syllables. Navy qb Kaipo-Noa Kaheaku-Enhada may miss the opener due to a hamstring pull. |
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Fighting is the only real way to learn to chop block.
by Bob Greasy on Aug 13, 2008 10:47 AM EDT reply actions
“Does this look like a man who has made a single mistake in life? We think not.”
So you’re not counting that Heineken as a mistake?
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Aug 13, 2008 10:48 AM EDT reply actions
@WSR: No, and neither were the ten others he consumed prior to taking that picture.
by Orson Swindle on Aug 13, 2008 10:52 AM EDT reply actions
ECU needs to back the FUCK off Cracker Barrel. dems good eats.
by Huss on Aug 13, 2008 10:56 AM EDT reply actions
It’s East Carolina, not Eastern Carolina . . . maybe Buzz was right; a REAL journalist would never make that mistake. Fucking amateur hour. [/sarcasm]
by Justin C. Cliburn on Aug 13, 2008 11:04 AM EDT reply actions
What people outside Alabama don’t understand is that we don’t just hate the Big 10 because they’re Yankees. We hate them because, well truth is we hate everybody. We hate Georgia, Tennessee, thank God for Mississippi, and especially hate our own who root for the other team in the state. When we don’t have Yankees, Georgians, or the Crimson Tide to battle for the honor of our group, we fight each other for personal honor. I suspect its the same at other places. If the NCAA could keep SEC teams from playing anybody for a year but keep practicing, the fields behind Athletic complexes would look like Masada in a month.
See Culture of Honor: The Psychology of Violence in the South
by Stephen on Aug 13, 2008 11:13 AM EDT reply actions
Ziemba’s always in a foul mood because Hugh Nall is still making him run 2 hours after practice everyday for not completing the execution on the Dorsey Chop Block. Ramsey is sitting out because he got tired of Nall calling him “A pussy that couldnt tear an ACL if it was his grandma he was chopping”. Has nothing to do with a bad back.
by Relative to Aight...Aight. on Aug 13, 2008 11:19 AM EDT reply actions
Lee Ziemba will taint punch you right between the eyes.
by NewAZTiger on Aug 13, 2008 11:23 AM EDT reply actions
I do not understand the mentality of having your players fight each other in practice. I’ve had this discussion with a relative who played for a coach that encouraged the offense and defense to go after each other. Do they think this builds team morale or unity? The relative said that it didn’t; he just wanted to deck the guys in the dorm later that evening. It spills over. And then they wonder why some of these players commit violent crimes outside school.
by blon57 on Aug 13, 2008 11:26 AM EDT reply actions
Well, Lil Red’s page starts with “Bo Big Red!”, which can only mean one of two things:
1) That’s a really pathetic typo;
2) That’s a really pathetic attempt at a play on words with Bo Pelini.
Either way “Bo Big Red” is fucking stupid.
by Oops Pow Surprise on Aug 13, 2008 11:27 AM EDT reply actions
#9: Tuberville won’t let the kids sell coke on campus, and this is the natural result of that.
by NewAZTiger on Aug 13, 2008 11:30 AM EDT reply actions
@ 10
Almost as dumb as “Bofense” (on a billboard when you’re coming into Lincoln, or it was for a while anyway) or the worst of the worst, “Bo, Bo, Bo, Merry Christmas,” which was an actual shirt that actually sold.
There are times I’m ashamed to be a Nebraska fan. Not many, but times.
by carlinthemarlin on Aug 13, 2008 11:31 AM EDT reply actions
I don’t think the coaches encourage fighting at Auburn. It just happens. Two players trying to get a starting spot or look good. They don’t like not looking good. Someone beats them or takes a shot after the whistle and the other player shoves back.
If there wasn’t a 15 yard penalty for it during games you’d see it all the time.
This isn’t MMA. They shove, slap, get seperated, and its over. Helmets don’t come off usually no one gets hurt. Auburn isn’t the only school where this happens they are just the most famous now.
by Stephen on Aug 13, 2008 11:53 AM EDT reply actions
#13: I’m pretty meh on it… I just figured the Nebraska Bookstore stocked up on shirts with those janky slogans just to make a couple extra bucks over the winter months. Having someone erect a billboard across 180 from Memorial Stadium that said “Welcome Back, Bo” or something like that was almost too much, too.
by Rob on Aug 13, 2008 11:55 AM EDT reply actions
quick info on lil red…
Status: Single (that’s right, he’s available girls)
Here for: Friends ( ‘friend’ as in like one of those super-creepy online sexual predators you see in the PSA commercials)
Hometown: Lincoln, NE (the town were anything can happen, but doesn’t… because it’s freakin’ lincoln, ne and NOTHING ever happens there.)
Body type: More to love! (and wants he love YOU)
Zodiac Sign: Capricorn (which is odd, i pegged him as a gemini)
Occupation: Husker Posterboy/Mascot (destroyer of worlds/stalker of orson swindle’s dreams)
by hack on Aug 13, 2008 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
blon @ #10 – well argued point and I agree. It essentially wastes an entire practice. Everything a young man learned or worked on prior to the fight gets thrown to hell since he gets so worked up. And you can pretty much bet that he won’t remember shit after the fight takes place since he’ll be so pissed off.
Am I the lone person who votes against Crackle Barrell’s HashBrown casserole? It’s way too “onion-y” and although I appreciate the 800 calories – I think I’ll stick with my “eggs in a basket” please.
by Ryno on Aug 13, 2008 12:04 PM EDT reply actions
Blon @10: Too much fighting is clearly a bad thing and I can’t imagine a good coach really encouraging it, but a little isn’t a problem at all. And context is important too. It is pretty natural to have it happen in training camp or two a days when so many things are still being sorted out for the year. It would be much worse if it was going on during the meat of the schedule.
Funny just as I was reading about the carioca styings of Mark Sanchez, my wife came downstairs wearing a shirt that just said “carioca” on it (in red and white “Coca-Cola” script). Maybe I should go get a plate of shrimp.
by oc phil on Aug 13, 2008 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
When I was in high school our team got into fights all the time in practice, in class, at parties…you name it…. and that team went on to finish 4-7 on the year… BUT it also produced 4 seniors who won their weight classes in the area Toughman contest that same school year…. you gotta look for the positives!
by beckett929 on Aug 13, 2008 12:42 PM EDT reply actions
goddamn it! don’t these journalists know that they aren’t supposed to be talking about Auburn’s Fight Club?!
by suicidewatch on Aug 13, 2008 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
There is absolutely nothing wrong with teammates fighting one another in practice, particularly in training camp. You develop intra-squad “rivalries” hitting the same guys for so long, and sometimes those spill over after the whistle. Totally natural, and dare I say, occasionally good for team chemistry, because you’ll get any issues out of your system early, making the two teammates less likely to bark at each other during a pressure-filled game situation.
Two caveats to that. One, obviously, is that you don’t want anyone sustaining a serious injury (I know a guy who played at a rival high school that likely cost himself a 1-AA or D-2 scholarship because he broke his hand in a practice scuffle and missed his senior season). Two, if you’ve got teammates fighting each other the week leading up to a big game, you’ve got deeper issues.
Smart coaches will not freak out over this type of stuff, however, they will set down consequences, so that players know they better never pull that crap during a game and get a dumb penalty. (Our h.s. coaches had a rule that if you fought in practice, you were immediately banished to run a mile on the nearby track, in full pads, helmets and cleats… and since you were kicked out of practice, you had to start the next day’s practice by running 20 minutes of stadium stairs, also in full gear. So basically, you made sure that any fisticuffs were worth it. My lone practice fight was definitely so — got some long-awaited revenge on the team cheap-shot artist…)
by Papa Lou BSU on Aug 13, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions
BTW, that picture of Jimmy Johnson is teh awesome.
I smell an avatar, people!
by Papa Lou BSU on Aug 13, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions
damnit! don’t those journalists know that they aren’t supposed to talk about fight club?!
by suicidewatch on Aug 13, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions
woops! posting a comment twice is such a blog faux pas.
by suicidewatch on Aug 13, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions
Big Red’s Facebook vs. Little Red’s Myspace. Who wins?
http://www.new.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1247852541
by jakldawg on Aug 13, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
#17
I agree with your assessment of the hash brown casserole. Nothing is better than the eggs-in-a-basket breakfast after my four mile run in the morning.
I do freelance food writing/reviews and I still love Cracker Barrel. I would rather eat there than all those four and five star restaurants.
by blon57 on Aug 13, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions
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Ate there last night on the road, only place open other than Waffle House at 930 that is NOT fast food.
Dam good pintos & cornbread. They need to add smoked mullet, though.
by yoyofutbawl on Aug 13, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply actions
What this crack journalist failed to report on the Auburn “fight” was the Ziemba’s involvement was to try to break it up. It was a standard shoving match that happens all the time in two-a-days. Talk about a NON issue. (the bama fans have really been pushing it, though, likely trying to divert attention from the TPD blotter.)
by ChemE93 on Aug 13, 2008 3:20 PM EDT reply actions
That Paul Stanley song brought back warm memories of the soothing tones and masterful wordsmithing of the legendary Dirk Digler…
And yes, I have the touch. I have the power…
by benniefly2 on Aug 13, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions

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