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FULMER CUP: CORRECTIONS

According to the Charleston Gazette, the Fulmer Cup scoreboard is due for a major correction in the case of Kendall Washington, the redshirt freshman wide receiver who broke, entered, and feloniously assaulted a man in putting the 'Eers on top...for a hot minute, that is, since Washington wasn't even on the team.

This was evidently a point of confusion for more than just your average sloppy blogger:

According to the story, "it's unclear what this means for his football future at West Virginia University, where the 6-foot-2, 192-pound Washington was in the mix to be a receiver for the nationally ranked Mountaineers this season.''

Uh, not exactly. Yes, Washington was a member of the Mountaineer football team last season. He even caught a 4-yard touchdown pass in the spring game from backup QB Jarrett Brown.

There was additional confusion with the listed rosters for West Virginia, as well; Yahoo had him, then didn't have him, Rivals didn't have him, and so on into mediocre confusion, etcetera. Consider all of the points for Washington's offense removed from WVU's record, thus returning them to their prior total of nineteen points.

Additional revisions: Georgia's Clint Boling had a DUI reduced to reckless driving, meaning his ability to convince the judge he was merely "operating a vehicle in a frisky fashion" and not "driving drunk" equals a reduction of one point for UGA. In response to emailers: Jeremy Lomax's weapons charge has already been removed from the total, and should be correct. If not, we will penalize other teams for no good reason and even things up in the second half.

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My Photoshop hurts from all the thinking and counting.

by Brian "Hung Like Reggie F'n Nelson" on Jul 31, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

roll tide

by gerry dorsey on Jul 31, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, maybe we can hold onto some type of lead after all in the 4th quarter.

by Mr. Pelican Pants on Jul 31, 2008 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I think there could be more cups in the future, to compliment the Fulmer Cup: a) for alumni of a program, i.e., Jamelle Holieway, Kendall Washington, Peter Gardere; b) recruits that aren’t technically in the program yet, like Mr. Jarboe.

by HeadThief on Jul 31, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Is there any official statement that Washington had been dismissed from the team prior to his getting down and getting stupid?

If not, count those points, baby!

by jthomas666 on Jul 31, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

#4

Now, I do believe UT’s former qb only had only one DUI? That’s not much…

by blon57 on Jul 31, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

For #5: Yes, the WVU SID said yesterday that Washington was dismissed by the team after Spring practices. I assume that was part of Stewart’s program to take out Rodriguez’s trash, but no further details were provided.

by Ron on Jul 31, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

This post confused the crap out of me until I looked up the Charleston article and read the following (I’m guessing OrsonSpencer meant to put this in but ended the cut and paste too soon):

“Washington, however, is not a member of the WVU team. The coaches dismissed him after spring drills.”

NOW it makes sense. Row, Todd!

http://wvgazette.com/Sports/WVU/200807300775

by Flibbetigibbet on Jul 31, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Told you WVU would blow a late felony.

by Biggus Rickus on Jul 31, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Once again the officials cave to the pressure of all mighty Alabama.

by Bunkie Perkins on Jul 31, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Bama still #1.

Huzzah…

by Tony the Tiger on Jul 31, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I would love to be wrong here, as a fan of the Mounties, but here is a cached snapshot of the official WVU athletic site’s football roster as of July 25th.

http://64.233.169.104/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.msnsportsnet.com%2Fpage.cfm%3Fsport%3Dfootball%26show%3Droster

Notice that Kendall Washington is mysteriously on that version and not on the current version. Maybe just an oversight that had a stronger reason to be corrected lately. The google knows all.

by EchoWhiskey on Jul 31, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

So WVU, apparently one of the top two teams in the country and destined for a shot at the MNC, once again blows it at the last second and is no longer in contention to be one of the top two teams.

History repeating itself, folks….

by Mike on Jul 31, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Jimmy Johns was getting ready to assault the warden to ensure the number one spot, too. Thankfully he didn’t have to.

by Jesus on Jul 31, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

To be fair, I think some points should be given to Michigan since DickRod recruited him and would have probably stolen him if he had had a chance.

by hobeg8r on Jul 31, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Great. Just fucking great. How am I supposed to un-burn all those couches?

by Doug on Jul 31, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

@Jesus – He’ll probably still do it.. .just for shits and giggles.

@ Doug — +1 cocktail.

by GamecockTony on Jul 31, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Doug – Morgantown Salvation Army Thrift Store:
(304) 296-3525. Hours of operation: 8 AM – 5PM.

by hobeg8r on Jul 31, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm… that’s interesting, EchoWhiskey.

Still, schools don’t always update their online rosters during the off-season, so it’s possible that was just an oversight.

Or, to be similarly generous, that Washington was kicked off in the spring, but with some sort of lifeline from the coaching staff to “earn” his way back on the squad (i.e., comm. service, good behavior, good grades, etc.), and thus, he wasn’t removed immediately from the official roster.

But that sure looks suspicious…

by Papa Lou BSU on Jul 31, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

If he’s on the official roster, he’s on the team, and points count. If it was a Gator, you know Orson would count it. I’m just sayin’

by david in fla on Jul 31, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

What the fuck?

In that case, Jimmy Johns has not been a member of Alabama’s squad since roughly 5 minutes before he started slanging the yayo, thus negating his Ellis T. Jones impression.

by Tater Salad on Jul 31, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting article on Deadspin on recruiting and how much schools spend. Top spender? The other UT- Tennessee, then ND and Florida. I was surprised Texas was only #12. We lost our top 5 partying ranking and now only 12 in $ in recruiting. We are fallng way behind in everything…

http://chronicle.com/free/v54/i47/47a00102.htm#spenders

by blon57 on Jul 31, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

It seems to me that WVU is trying to “backdate” his dismissal to make them look better in the public eye.

There was no announcement of his being dismissed, and he was a scholarship athlete, which is usually announced pretty quickly to make room for incoming recruits.

This is bullshit.

by Steve on Jul 31, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Steve – I have a strong recollection of someone posting about this incident in early July. There was some reference to as yet unknown WV football player being investigated for a robbery. Maybe WV got wind of it – were told of it – and removed him from the squad before he was actually arrested. Watergate….college football style?

by hobeg8r on Jul 31, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Blon, I was too lazy to read the article… did it say anything about possible accounting differences between schools (i.e., who calls what a “rekrooting” expense)? It just seems like some of the schools that should be at the top aren’t.

by PeterPumpkinhead on Jul 31, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean, I’m supposed to believe Syracuse spent more than UCLA, USC, Bama and LSU?

by PeterPumpkinhead on Jul 31, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Like Kansas State University being in the top 10 in recruiting dollars? They aren’t getting much erturn for their dollars…well, I guess I shouldn’t say that. They beat Texas last year. Other than that, though, not much else stands out for that school.

Some of the large divide between numbers is the cost of traveling to recruiting visits. From the article:
 In the mid-1990s, when the Big 12 was still known as the Big Eight, homegrown athletes populated most of its teams. Coaches “would occasionally bring in a young person from California or Florida,” he says, “but that would be the rare exception to the rule.”

Now the conference reaches from Iowa to Texas, and more coaches are going after athletes outside the region.

Just as coaches are setting their sights farther, so are athletes. “Kids who 20 years ago wouldn’t dream of leaving the mid-Atlantic area, they’re getting [scholarship] offers around the country,” says Mr. Leckonby, formerly of Maryland. “And West Coast kids who would stay in the Pac-10 think nothing of coming East to Duke or Maryland.”

Orson should do an analysis tomorrow on Rumin-ations.

by blon57 on Jul 31, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

So did you take points of Bama’s total for people like Rashaad Johnson having their charges dropped or dismissed?

by josh on Jul 31, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course, this is TOTAL recruiting dollars in the athletic budget. It isn’t broken down by sport. That will make a difference in football-related rankings.

Scroll down and it addresses increases in recruiting budgets of BCS schools.

by blon57 on Jul 31, 2008 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

#3: I haven’t had a diet-pepsi nasal enema in a while. Thanks for the laugh.

by NewAZTiger on Jul 31, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, this has to be embarrassing for Saban…

From the report-
In 2007 the U. of Louisiana at Monroe spent $134,300 on recruiting, the least of any Division I-A institution.

That includes the football recruiting budget.

by blon57 on Jul 31, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I spent more than that on douche.

by Brandon Cox's Vagina on Jul 31, 2008 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

MSNsportsNET usaully updates their roster at the start of spring drills and then at the start of fall camp when the freshmen arrive…so it makes sense that his name would still be there.

The no announcement thing is weird, but not totally uncommon. As displayed by the whole RR fiasco…the WVU SID is a total joke. Washington isn’t the first scholarship player to vanish from a WVU roster with no announcement…see Evan Rodriguez, RJ Grant, etc.

by PrestonCo on Jul 31, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

@NewAzTiger

Your welcome. As far as victories go, I guess we will take it. We still have a lot of month left since its is early in the 4th quarter. I was browsing last years FC in the archives on the right hand side, and Illinois took the title with 24 points on 8-29-2007. They had a decent year on the field. We shall see. With Prince Hall now suspended, I think recruiting for LB’s should be at an all time high….
Don’t know if that helped ILLlinois as in weeding out the bad apples, or that they had a stable full of wild horses they had to tame/break.

by Mr. Pelican Pants on Jul 31, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

as a WVU alum, I demand we be given our lead atop the Fulmer Cup standings. Why? Because when it comes to thugs, moonshine, and burning second/third-hand furniture, the Mountaineers are the industry leader bar none.

by David Puddy on Aug 1, 2008 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Something doesn’t seem right. We earn those points. Who is paying this swindle guy?

by WVUFan on Aug 1, 2008 4:11 AM EDT reply actions  

PeterPumpkinHead – I mean, I’m supposed to believe Syracuse spent more than UCLA, USC, Bama and LSU?

It’s a couple thousand every time they de-ice the plane.

by weagle on Aug 1, 2008 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

LEMSDAY!

by Allahver Fist on Aug 1, 2008 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

My. Day. Is. Complete.

My head will rest gently on my pillow tonight knowing that Alabama will remain the most criminal program in the country.

Not only for this Fulmer Cup season, but for the All-Time Points lead as well. You guys really are the best…

by TAFKastOSUB on Aug 1, 2008 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

31 – as if the billboard sign they put up wasn’t enough to rub it in, they beat alabama with a coach that makes less in one year than Saban does for walking from his car to his office on a Tuesday…now this. I love it.

by TAFKastOSUB on Aug 1, 2008 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Still – something is wrong when shooting a guy in the head gets 9 points while selling coke gets 20.

I think this relic of bloggery needs an overhaul to bring it up to modernity.

by dudeman on Aug 1, 2008 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

GoVols, he settled by paying a $150 dollar fine.

by HawgFan on Aug 3, 2008 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

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