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		<title>By: oc phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>oc phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>65) Class and race are not the same thing, but there is no doubt the two are linked way more than they should be in most of the world.

and Good luck on the bar PW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>65) Class and race are not the same thing, but there is no doubt the two are linked way more than they should be in most of the world.</p>
<p>and Good luck on the bar PW.</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Ohio Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Happy Ohio Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What oc phil is trying to say is that there&#039;s not a lot of black people in Columbus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What oc phil is trying to say is that there&#8217;s not a lot of black people in Columbus.</p>
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		<title>By: TAFKastOSUB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TAFKastOSUB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PP @ 61

Did you even watch the 05&#039; Texas game in Columbus?  So you&#039;re telling me that a 3 point loss to the undefeated NC&#039;s that year was the nail in the coffin for Ohio State...that is insane.  Ohio State bounced right back, went to a BCS bowl that year and crushed ND (a 10-2 ND) and then went on to win back to back outright Big Ten titles and made back to back BCS NC appearances.  Granted Ohio State lost the two BCS NCGs, but come on, let&#039;s get real here.  Tressel is having 2 of his best years in recruiting in 07 and 08; landed the #1 QB in the country.  Kids from all over the country want to play for him, MD, FL, MI, PA, TX..ect.  


So you&#039;re telling us that you thought Ohio State was just kind of alright up until Texas beat them in 05.

Look back over the last 11 years.

97 - Beat Pac-10 Champ ASU in the Rose Bowl 
98 - Beat Big-12 Champ aTm in Sugar Bowl
Coaching Change 
02 - Beat undefeated, defending NC and Big East Champ Miami in NCG
03 - Beat Big-12 Champ KSU in BCS Bowl
05 - Beat ND in BCS Bowl
06 - Lost NCG
07 - Lost NCG

How many conference champions has your team beat in the last 10-15 years?  By my math, were 4-2 against conference champions from other conferences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PP @ 61</p>
<p>Did you even watch the 05&#8242; Texas game in Columbus?  So you&#8217;re telling me that a 3 point loss to the undefeated NC&#8217;s that year was the nail in the coffin for Ohio State&#8230;that is insane.  Ohio State bounced right back, went to a BCS bowl that year and crushed ND (a 10-2 ND) and then went on to win back to back outright Big Ten titles and made back to back BCS NC appearances.  Granted Ohio State lost the two BCS NCGs, but come on, let&#8217;s get real here.  Tressel is having 2 of his best years in recruiting in 07 and 08; landed the #1 QB in the country.  Kids from all over the country want to play for him, MD, FL, MI, PA, TX..ect.  </p>
<p>So you&#8217;re telling us that you thought Ohio State was just kind of alright up until Texas beat them in 05.</p>
<p>Look back over the last 11 years.</p>
<p>97 &#8211; Beat Pac-10 Champ ASU in the Rose Bowl<br />
98 &#8211; Beat Big-12 Champ aTm in Sugar Bowl<br />
Coaching Change<br />
02 &#8211; Beat undefeated, defending NC and Big East Champ Miami in NCG<br />
03 &#8211; Beat Big-12 Champ KSU in BCS Bowl<br />
05 &#8211; Beat ND in BCS Bowl<br />
06 &#8211; Lost NCG<br />
07 &#8211; Lost NCG</p>
<p>How many conference champions has your team beat in the last 10-15 years?  By my math, were 4-2 against conference champions from other conferences.</p>
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		<title>By: PoeMcFuckinNoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoeMcFuckinNoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll say it.  The Ohio State defense has been a little soft that past couple years.  It sucks, we know it.  That&#039;s what the problem is.  If they want to put the ball on the ground and run it, no problem.  Passing has been a little tricky in bowl games, mainly because they just run routes down the field and ignore open areas (see Fla and Lsu).

We can&#039;t live off the 2002 and 2003 defenses that would have made Chris Leak and Matt Flynn wet their panties.  I think USC will be a good look and see if Ohio State can actually play defense against teams that run AND pass.  The 02 and 03 defenses made plays at the expense of other teams and players.  Willis McGahee and Ken Dorsey are a good example.  None were illegal hits, but I think the current teams have been programmed to be safe or not to hurt others.

Speed hasn&#039;t been an issue.  The problem is Big 10 games that OSU plays in are normally over by half or the third quarter.  Tressel basically held a hand behind his back by giving Beanie 6 first hald carries against Wisky.  Second half? 3 TDs by Beanie.  I&#039;m glad we play USC and if we lose, we lose.  If we get blown out, the defensive coordinator needs to lose his job.

The 2004 defense, by all accounts sucked.  Mostly new starters, different scheme from Dantonio&#039;s high risk, high reward defenses.  Marshall put up 21, Northwestern 33, and Iowa 33. Wow, that sucked.  But then amazingly the 2005 defense was arguably the best Tressel defense outside of 02 or 03.  They had a bunch of veterans and knew what they were doing.

Will the same migration to a good defense when it matters happen this year? Who knows.  I&#039;d rather watch and see than sitting here and saying &quot;Troy Smith just got sacked again&quot; (HOLY SHIT THATS ORIGINAL).  I know the jerseys look similar, but depth charts from 2006 to 2007 look a whole lot different on both offense and defense.  Most were sophomores and juniors last year.

So Fuck You.  Thanks for reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll say it.  The Ohio State defense has been a little soft that past couple years.  It sucks, we know it.  That&#8217;s what the problem is.  If they want to put the ball on the ground and run it, no problem.  Passing has been a little tricky in bowl games, mainly because they just run routes down the field and ignore open areas (see Fla and Lsu).</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t live off the 2002 and 2003 defenses that would have made Chris Leak and Matt Flynn wet their panties.  I think USC will be a good look and see if Ohio State can actually play defense against teams that run AND pass.  The 02 and 03 defenses made plays at the expense of other teams and players.  Willis McGahee and Ken Dorsey are a good example.  None were illegal hits, but I think the current teams have been programmed to be safe or not to hurt others.</p>
<p>Speed hasn&#8217;t been an issue.  The problem is Big 10 games that OSU plays in are normally over by half or the third quarter.  Tressel basically held a hand behind his back by giving Beanie 6 first hald carries against Wisky.  Second half? 3 TDs by Beanie.  I&#8217;m glad we play USC and if we lose, we lose.  If we get blown out, the defensive coordinator needs to lose his job.</p>
<p>The 2004 defense, by all accounts sucked.  Mostly new starters, different scheme from Dantonio&#8217;s high risk, high reward defenses.  Marshall put up 21, Northwestern 33, and Iowa 33. Wow, that sucked.  But then amazingly the 2005 defense was arguably the best Tressel defense outside of 02 or 03.  They had a bunch of veterans and knew what they were doing.</p>
<p>Will the same migration to a good defense when it matters happen this year? Who knows.  I&#8217;d rather watch and see than sitting here and saying &#8220;Troy Smith just got sacked again&#8221; (HOLY SHIT THATS ORIGINAL).  I know the jerseys look similar, but depth charts from 2006 to 2007 look a whole lot different on both offense and defense.  Most were sophomores and juniors last year.</p>
<p>So Fuck You.  Thanks for reading.</p>
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		<title>By: PoeMcFuckinNoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoeMcFuckinNoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Said masses included Tony Hawk, who gasped in awe as Tebow grabbed the souvenir board Hawk gave him&quot;

Gifts from celebrities? I think we need an NCAA investigation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Said masses included Tony Hawk, who gasped in awe as Tebow grabbed the souvenir board Hawk gave him&#8221;</p>
<p>Gifts from celebrities? I think we need an NCAA investigation.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Pelican Pants</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Pelican Pants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, as far as tOSU goes, always thought they were a decent team until that Texas game vs Vince Young. It seemed that game did take something away from tOSU that they never have recovered. I always saw Texas as one dimensional-one man show, all you had to do was stop one man-kinda like WVU, and the offense would crumble-but no one seemed to be able to do it. I honestly did not give Texas a chance since it seemed that USC was so loaded, and it turned out that has been the best BCS game I have ever seen. I ended up pulling for Vince Young as the underdog since they sat around and kept hearing how they would have no chance, and took it as motivation and won the game. Maybe thats what everyone was wondering why tOSU last year wouldnt be doubly motivated to do the same since they basically were in the same boat vs LSU as Texas was vs USC.
Now they get to do it again, but who will be deemed the underdog in this game---USC or tOSU? Or would you call it totally even?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, as far as tOSU goes, always thought they were a decent team until that Texas game vs Vince Young. It seemed that game did take something away from tOSU that they never have recovered. I always saw Texas as one dimensional-one man show, all you had to do was stop one man-kinda like WVU, and the offense would crumble-but no one seemed to be able to do it. I honestly did not give Texas a chance since it seemed that USC was so loaded, and it turned out that has been the best BCS game I have ever seen. I ended up pulling for Vince Young as the underdog since they sat around and kept hearing how they would have no chance, and took it as motivation and won the game. Maybe thats what everyone was wondering why tOSU last year wouldnt be doubly motivated to do the same since they basically were in the same boat vs LSU as Texas was vs USC.<br />
Now they get to do it again, but who will be deemed the underdog in this game&#8212;USC or tOSU? Or would you call it totally even?</p>
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		<title>By: PW</title>
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		<dc:creator>PW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>58

In the spirit of full disclosure, I&#039;ve never been to Columbus. I&#039;m just a poster on a CFB blog who is taking good-natured shots at rival fans and who should be studying for the bar exam he&#039;s taking next week.

Also, Gainesville, FL is far from paradise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>58</p>
<p>In the spirit of full disclosure, I&#8217;ve never been to Columbus. I&#8217;m just a poster on a CFB blog who is taking good-natured shots at rival fans and who should be studying for the bar exam he&#8217;s taking next week.</p>
<p>Also, Gainesville, FL is far from paradise.</p>
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		<title>By: PW</title>
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		<dc:creator>PW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>55--

Since the comment I was responding to earlier was directed at the entire south (burning Atlanta and whatnot), I figured I&#039;d just let the rest of the south ride on Les and Urban&#039;s backs. Besides, didn&#039;t Jarvis Moss say something about several of the teams in the SEC being better than the &#039;06 tOSU team? As a player from a team who has played and beaten the Buckeyes in the past 10 years, he&#039;s allowed to talk smack, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>55&#8211;</p>
<p>Since the comment I was responding to earlier was directed at the entire south (burning Atlanta and whatnot), I figured I&#8217;d just let the rest of the south ride on Les and Urban&#8217;s backs. Besides, didn&#8217;t Jarvis Moss say something about several of the teams in the SEC being better than the &#8216;06 tOSU team? As a player from a team who has played and beaten the Buckeyes in the past 10 years, he&#8217;s allowed to talk smack, right?</p>
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		<title>By: oc phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>oc phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PW back at 10:    Since I&#039;ve actually spent some time there, I can say with authority that Columbus is actually has a good quality of life.    The economy there is very white-collar: banks, insurance companies, the state government, the university and big science outfits like Bechtel and Chemical Abstracts Service.    They never had the heavy &quot;rust belt&quot; industry there so they avioded the blight and pollution that troubled other cities in that general area.     And there is a nice river running through the town.     The main charge agianst the place is that it is boring, but that is because it is free of many of the typical urban problems of our time.

And I&#039;ve spent most of my life living in some of the nicest beach areas of SoCal (Laguna &amp; Newport) so my standards are high.

The SEC fans REALLY need to be thankful for UCLA and Stanford, since had those teams not upset USC then the last two BCS games would have both been tOSU vs USC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PW back at 10:    Since I&#8217;ve actually spent some time there, I can say with authority that Columbus is actually has a good quality of life.    The economy there is very white-collar: banks, insurance companies, the state government, the university and big science outfits like Bechtel and Chemical Abstracts Service.    They never had the heavy &#8220;rust belt&#8221; industry there so they avioded the blight and pollution that troubled other cities in that general area.     And there is a nice river running through the town.     The main charge agianst the place is that it is boring, but that is because it is free of many of the typical urban problems of our time.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve spent most of my life living in some of the nicest beach areas of SoCal (Laguna &amp; Newport) so my standards are high.</p>
<p>The SEC fans REALLY need to be thankful for UCLA and Stanford, since had those teams not upset USC then the last two BCS games would have both been tOSU vs USC.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>56,

The difference is that no Gator is in denial about the anal vivisection that Tommie Frazier and co. gave to us in the desert. We still remember it quite painfully, and make no excuses or pretenses about having a chance to win that game.

And if you were a Huskers fan, you could play that card all you wanted and there wouldn&#039;t be anything I could say about it. But since you&#039;re not, yes it does sound really gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>56,</p>
<p>The difference is that no Gator is in denial about the anal vivisection that Tommie Frazier and co. gave to us in the desert. We still remember it quite painfully, and make no excuses or pretenses about having a chance to win that game.</p>
<p>And if you were a Huskers fan, you could play that card all you wanted and there wouldn&#8217;t be anything I could say about it. But since you&#8217;re not, yes it does sound really gay.</p>
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		<title>By: TAFKastOSUB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TAFKastOSUB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>54

I think tommy frazier just ran for another touchdown....see how gay that sounds...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>54</p>
<p>I think tommy frazier just ran for another touchdown&#8230;.see how gay that sounds&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: poguemahone</title>
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		<dc:creator>poguemahone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tressel is the entire South&#039;s bitch?

Or is he just Les Miles and Urban Meyer&#039;s?

I&#039;m kinda tired of fans, coaches, and players of teams who haven&#039;t played the Buckeyes in  10 years talking smack. Florida and LSU can let us have it, the rest of you can go wallow in your Capital One Bowls until you actually beat a decent Tressel-coached team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tressel is the entire South&#8217;s bitch?</p>
<p>Or is he just Les Miles and Urban Meyer&#8217;s?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m kinda tired of fans, coaches, and players of teams who haven&#8217;t played the Buckeyes in  10 years talking smack. Florida and LSU can let us have it, the rest of you can go wallow in your Capital One Bowls until you actually beat a decent Tressel-coached team.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>52,

I think Troy Smith just got sacked again.</description>
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<p>I think Troy Smith just got sacked again.</p>
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		<title>By: TAFKastOSUB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TAFKastOSUB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>forget not &quot;for get&quot;...it was a typo..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>forget not &#8220;for get&#8221;&#8230;it was a typo..</p>
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		<title>By: TAFKastOSUB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TAFKastOSUB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like people for get the little run the Big 10 went on from 1997 to 2002.  2 National Championships from 2 undefeated teams who beat conference champions in a bowl game, of which was Miami on a 34 game win streak and defending the NC.  

In 99, the Big Ten runner up beat the SEC champion, and the Big Ten champion beat the Pac 10 champion.

If anything, SEC fans should be thanking Ohio State because had it not been for the last 2 NCGs where Ohio State lost to an SEC team, the Big Ten would be pwning the SEC.  In 06, the Gators saved a clean sweep of the SEC by the Big Ten. 

You guys go ahead and enjoy your moment.  How many times did Nebraska fail before they won 3 of 4 NCGs and handed Florida its worse loss of all time?  I think it was like 7 losses in a row.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like people for get the little run the Big 10 went on from 1997 to 2002.  2 National Championships from 2 undefeated teams who beat conference champions in a bowl game, of which was Miami on a 34 game win streak and defending the NC.  </p>
<p>In 99, the Big Ten runner up beat the SEC champion, and the Big Ten champion beat the Pac 10 champion.</p>
<p>If anything, SEC fans should be thanking Ohio State because had it not been for the last 2 NCGs where Ohio State lost to an SEC team, the Big Ten would be pwning the SEC.  In 06, the Gators saved a clean sweep of the SEC by the Big Ten. </p>
<p>You guys go ahead and enjoy your moment.  How many times did Nebraska fail before they won 3 of 4 NCGs and handed Florida its worse loss of all time?  I think it was like 7 losses in a row.</p>
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