CURIOUS INDEX, 7/24/08

Do your homework fatty. The bar called Holy Grail is not located in Columbus, its located in Cincinnati, a cesspool city in of itself, as it is where the South begins. The Union and the Constitution Forever, Phil Sheridan and Billy Sherman and Unconditional Surrender Grant shall burn Dixie down to the ground yet again.

American Airlines knows why Mike Leach flies. To get free steak.

On the matter of Ferentz-led chaos at the golf course, at least everyone would get laid.

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Yeah, but it was built during the Columbus Era? Like 1492.

no sir; no need for that question mark in my last post.

Evidently, Leach still thinks that the terminals are labeled 2E, 2W, 3E, and 4E, and there are huge, tall digital Departure Gate signs on International Parkway.

(Now THAT was was a bit confusing when they existed.)

Re: Burning Dixie.

Well, it won’t be by OSU, since that team has NEVER won against an SEC school, no matter what team they played. Have fun with your cupcakes throughout the season, but when you want to play real football, swing down for a BCS woodpile session.

Then we can send you home with another humiliating loss.

“Y’all come back now, ya hear?”

So, does that mean there’s not gonna be a “Carr wash” for charity in Ann Arbor this year, too ?

Damn erdoding family values.

In defense of Ferentz, this golf tourney would have definitely been green lit. All 18 holes. (See what I did there?)

Is it worth pointing out to #1 that Grant and Sherman are both from Ohio?

Anyway, the Holy Grail was a microbrewery for awhile. Just a garden variety college bar these days. Still a great place to go before or after a Bearcats game.

And the airport in Salt Lake City is a complete disgrace, particularly in January, after a few feet of snow up. I’m willing to check it out.

@ OhioDawg

As was Sheridan, sort of ; Born in NY but grew up in Somerset, Ohio. Somewhat ironic that the birthplace of the greatest Union military minds, the Radical Republicans, and one of the largest reserves of manpower, and therefore the prime reason the South got ass-whomped, is now home to a college football team that can’t beat the South. But I’ll prefer losing to teams whose cities and towns my forefathers burned to the ground. Literally, not figuratively.

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No, but it’s worth pointing out that he (who I assume is from Columbus) is calling another city a cesspool.

It’s like Mississippi criticizing Alabama’s public school system.

leach only thinks dfw sucks b/c all they have are boring ass commercial airliners. can a brother get some biplanes, blackhawks, or x-wings??

#7

Please, do you really think OSU have NEVER beaten an SEC team? Don’t make us send our bitch Michigan down again to do our dirty work for us.

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Maybe we (the south) can introduce your bitch to our bitch, Jim Tressel.

after watching Ganja Queen, where an Australian chick almost gets EXECUTED for some Australian airport worker putting weed in her boogie bag board, and the Indonesian Govt not giving a flying f*ck…i want nothing to do with that entire region, regardless of how colorful their sunsets are.

watch the movie, it’s disgusting.

Kapalua West Maui Airport, you are an absolute joke. Prove me wrong with a trip to the airport this Thanksgiving complete with tickets to the entire Maui Invitational.

@11

Ohio = West Virginia with acid rain

PW @ 15 – 100+ cocktails to you, sir. I love starting my day off with hysterical laughter.

Leach prefers to go by boat. You know…..the kind with big sails and a skull and crossbone flag.

Yet another great post devolves into an tOSU/SEC pissing match.

On another note, I’m surprised Brian Kelly hasn’t “noticed” Clifford as of yet.

the big 10 won the civil war? wait, what?

Does Leach’s infatuation with pirates extend to air piracy? I wouldn’t put it past the man to try and pull a D.B. Cooper just to see if he could.

Damn Tebow for his reasonable, spot-on response when asked about last year’s Dawg Celebration in Jax!

(Although noted author CUM begs to differ…..)

#14

I must beg forgiveness. In 1988, Ohio State played LSU and won 36-33 during the regular season.

However, from 1917 when they tied Auburn 0-0, Ohio State has amassed the amazingly stupendous record of 1-10-2 against SEC teams, including a stunning 0-8 streak over the last 19 years (all bowl games).

You may now rest easy that at least once per century, OSU will in fact defeat a team from the SEC…….just not when it counts.

The War is over; football is all that matters now.

And, yes, we all KNOW that tOSU has NEVER beaten an SEC team. 0-9, brother: THIS AIN’T INTRAMURALS!

So esss-eeee-ceee fans, what are the scores from your team’s ass-whippin’ of tOSU? Mine:

Georgia 21 Ohio State 14 (’92 Citrus)

Thanks, Herbie (you f’n d-bag)! Speaking of the Ladykiller, does anyone else think he vaguely resembles Rutger Hauer in Blade Runner?

@ 21 – I thought Clifford was headed to Jax State to help RP with the Osama search.

Mmmm… Optimator. You gotta love any beer where the label says “since 1397”.

Of course, they’ve been brewing the stuff for over 600 years, they damn well better have it right by now.

Mike’s just used to the Lubbock airport, which has 9 gates and no flights after 8:00 pm. I half expect to see tumbleweeds rolling through the concourse every time I’m there.

Compare it to DFW, which I believe is #2 nationwide in both flights and passengers annually. The key is to not fly American, since DFW : American :: Atlanta : Delta.

Small clarification for the statisically impaired. TOSU record vs. the SEC is 7-11-3 (Thanks UK & Vandy!) with one win vs. LSU previously mentioned. The 0-9 is bowl games only. So as you can see, they are a bit streaky. Ask UM fans how their 2-10-1 ‘Cooper streak’ is going now. Is the season here yet?

Why don’t you ask Michigan fans how their streak is against SEC teams in bowls?

Thought so.

@ 26

South Cack 24 tOSU 7 (01 Outback)
South Cack 31 tOSU 28 (02 Outback)

They can’t even beat SC…and we only try to have sec speed

#29

DFW is a nightmare so I have to agree with Leach. Unfortunately, I mainly fly American. Houston is Continental’s hub. Austin’s airport isn’t great and San Antonio is…well, San Antonio. We’re screwed all the way around in this state.

As I have said over and over, if you base your argument on bowl game records only they your argument is baseless. I’m not saying bowl games don’t count, they do. But they are not representative of the entire body of work for a season. Especially in the BCS era where we keep stretching out the bowl games and have the NCG on a Monday or Tuesday night.

College football used to be about conference championships and rivalry games…bowl games started off as exhibition games and as a reward for the college student athlete for all their hard work. Now, in some circles, it has become the only measuring stick; of course that is primarily coming from the SEC schools who have some bragging rights lately.

My solution to all of this bull shit is to drop the conference championship games, drop the cupcakes on the schedule, and every big time conference play each other during the regular season in home and home series and let the chips fall where they may.

Isn’t college football about beating the teams in your conference and beating your rival…used to be.

I guess now it is about taking two bye weeks during the regular season, scheduling a bunch of cupcakes, possibly playing the same team twice in a conference championship game, bragging about your conference strength and then lurking around during the bowl season waiting to ambush a team from another conference so you can validate your belief that your conference is the best in the country…wtf? And I’m looking at you SEC fan.

Honestly, the SEC is ruining college football…

Most Fulmer Cup Points of any conference
Most Over-signing and dumping of Student Athletes
Most Number of Schools placed on Probation
Highest Coaching Salaries
 
And if all that = most NC trophies and a winning bowl record, you can have it.

TAFK @34:
WOW, lawya- who pissed in your oatmeal?

oh, that’s right- the friggin’ SEC did…

Dare I say that Miami, back in the day when they were winning all of those NC, was a microcosm of what the SEC is today. Sure you guys are racking up the NC’s but at what cost?

I think the best part of the rant at #34 is the part about cupcakes.
Youngstown state much ?

Ohio State is required by law (yes, really) to play a number of in-state teams per season.

and really, i don’t think anyone can dump on OSU’s schedule when they have home and aways with USC, Miami, Oklahoma, Cal, Virginia Tech, and Tennessee coming up

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Of course we’re having a tOSU vs. SEC pissing match. What else is there to talk about on a CFB blog in July?

Yeh we tried this before, to get a plus one or anyone from the Big 10 to participate in a playoff. They said nope, not gonna do it, not prudent. I would invite WVU, Texas, Oklahoma, tOSU and Michigan, even Kansas and Missouri, to play these games in any order vs
LSU, Florida, Auburn,Georgia, Alabama, even Ole Miss, THEN have a All Conf Championship game, which you play your toughest opponent AGAIN,THEN play the winner of the other AT LARGE confernences, either Boise State or Rutgers. Thats where depth comes into play, since most injuries occur in physical games over a course of a season. tOSU never had to play from behind last year or the year before, thus never been truly tested on a weekly basis before facing a couple of teams that had “run the gauntlet”.
tOSU has had smooth sailing to the BCS championship game, where a SEC team has to weather a few hurricanes , so when they get behind, they know how weather a storm and not sink. tOSU is basically the Titanic, big ship, looks great, but usually hits the SEC iceberg at the end of the voyage. Annually it seems.

That is come from behind, and win, without help from the referees….

And USCw for sure. By then we would have basically a NFL-esque training schedule, or NFL farm leaque

PP @ 40 & 41

If it had not been for bad refereeing, we would have won in regulation vs. Miami (formerly known as the greatest team evah!).

BTW – we were behind vs. Illinois and [name redacted] last year, at home, and stayed that way. These things run in cycles, which the SEC is in a good one currently. But it won’t last forever. The Big Ten will be improved this year, but national perception won’t believe it because a bellweather team (Michigan) looks to be down. You being a Bama fan should understand this fundamental more than anyone. Or not.

Crabapple,
I agree, I wish we all could have a knock down drag out MMA-Tough Man schedule where there was no doubt or controversy. But we are where we are. And it seems, again, tOSU will have ALOT to prove when they play USC. Now which tOSU team is better, the tOSU team that played Florida, or the tOSU “rebuilding year team” that played LSU, or the new and improved tOSU team that will play USC?
I know things go in cycles, and I am sure Alabama has about 2-3yrs left in their rebuilding cycle to get the SEC championship, but why do you think tOSU just gives up in big games where the talent is equal? Is that a coaching thing or a team mentality thing? The only other team I can remember having the same “problem” was Peyton Manning playing a Spurrier Florida team year in, year out. It was like watching a scripted game….. Then he goes pro and Tenn wins it all……

PP-

If I had to rank them, the 2006 team was talented, but Troy Smith was not in football shape after winning the Heisman. The whole team looked two steps slower than they did during the season, except for Ted Ginn on the opening kickoff.

Last year was a rebuilding year, so it was a pleasant surprise when they did as well as they did. They were a year early.

2005 was actually the best team, which this years team has a chance to be, with A J Hawk on defense. But they lost to Texas, and Vince Young, when a TE dropped a TD in the 4th quarter and Troy Smith was coming off a suspension and not at 100%. Then to compound the misery, they dropped a game at night to PSU 3 weeks later. I have always felt if they beat Texas, they would have handled State Penn, but the defeat to UT took a lot out of them.

Now we come to 2008. I felt that when all of the juniors, except for Vern Gholston, came back, this would be our year. We have the Sept 13 test vs. SC that is our season. If we lose that, the media will be unforgiving. If we win, they still have to go thru an improved Big 10/11 unscathed. This team has at least 5 first round picks, so they are very good. Tressel will have them ready and I look for a better performance in Miami in January.

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You guys are due to drop a conference game in inexcusable fashion to a lesser opponent. It happens to everyone (see: USC the past 2 seasons). The fact that you’ve only lost 1 conference game since 2005 is staggering.

Was Illinois not inexcusible enough? At home! At least when we lost to PSU it was a road game at night. Tressel has been pretty good about winning the games you are supposed to win. Illinois is the biggest hiccup outside of the two bowl games since 2004.

At least Illinois was decent last year. I was thinking something along the lines of a Northwestern, Iowa or Michigan State-level team.

TAFKastOSUB,

At what cost? Our very souls. Also, when did Ohio State a paragon of virtue?

DFW Airport is a mess, but can be conquered with preparation. It’s still a breeze compared to Love Field, which is in Dallas. There’s never been a flight I’ve taken from Love Field that didn’t result in me running about 500 yards to get to my gate at the last second.

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At least Illinois was decent last year. I was thinking something along the lines of a Northwestern, Iowa or Michigan State-level team."

the last time we pulled that shit was in 2004, and i don’t want to ever have to think about the first half of that season again.

on the other hand, lydell ross was our tailback and justin zwick was our QB at the time. so i don’t know exactly how much better we actually were than those teams we lost to

Seems like people for get the little run the Big 10 went on from 1997 to 2002. 2 National Championships from 2 undefeated teams who beat conference champions in a bowl game, of which was Miami on a 34 game win streak and defending the NC.

In 99, the Big Ten runner up beat the SEC champion, and the Big Ten champion beat the Pac 10 champion.

If anything, SEC fans should be thanking Ohio State because had it not been for the last 2 NCGs where Ohio State lost to an SEC team, the Big Ten would be pwning the SEC. In 06, the Gators saved a clean sweep of the SEC by the Big Ten.

You guys go ahead and enjoy your moment. How many times did Nebraska fail before they won 3 of 4 NCGs and handed Florida its worse loss of all time? I think it was like 7 losses in a row.

forget not “for get”…it was a typo..

52,

I think Troy Smith just got sacked again.

Tressel is the entire South’s bitch?

Or is he just Les Miles and Urban Meyer’s?

I’m kinda tired of fans, coaches, and players of teams who haven’t played the Buckeyes in 10 years talking smack. Florida and LSU can let us have it, the rest of you can go wallow in your Capital One Bowls until you actually beat a decent Tressel-coached team.

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I think tommy frazier just ran for another touchdown….see how gay that sounds…

56,

The difference is that no Gator is in denial about the anal vivisection that Tommie Frazier and co. gave to us in the desert. We still remember it quite painfully, and make no excuses or pretenses about having a chance to win that game.

And if you were a Huskers fan, you could play that card all you wanted and there wouldn’t be anything I could say about it. But since you’re not, yes it does sound really gay.

PW back at 10: Since I’ve actually spent some time there, I can say with authority that Columbus is actually has a good quality of life. The economy there is very white-collar: banks, insurance companies, the state government, the university and big science outfits like Bechtel and Chemical Abstracts Service. They never had the heavy “rust belt” industry there so they avioded the blight and pollution that troubled other cities in that general area. And there is a nice river running through the town. The main charge agianst the place is that it is boring, but that is because it is free of many of the typical urban problems of our time.

And I’ve spent most of my life living in some of the nicest beach areas of SoCal (Laguna & Newport) so my standards are high.

The SEC fans REALLY need to be thankful for UCLA and Stanford, since had those teams not upset USC then the last two BCS games would have both been tOSU vs USC.

55—

Since the comment I was responding to earlier was directed at the entire south (burning Atlanta and whatnot), I figured I’d just let the rest of the south ride on Les and Urban’s backs. Besides, didn’t Jarvis Moss say something about several of the teams in the SEC being better than the ‘06 tOSU team? As a player from a team who has played and beaten the Buckeyes in the past 10 years, he’s allowed to talk smack, right?

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In the spirit of full disclosure, I’ve never been to Columbus. I’m just a poster on a CFB blog who is taking good-natured shots at rival fans and who should be studying for the bar exam he’s taking next week.

Also, Gainesville, FL is far from paradise.

Honestly, as far as tOSU goes, always thought they were a decent team until that Texas game vs Vince Young. It seemed that game did take something away from tOSU that they never have recovered. I always saw Texas as one dimensional-one man show, all you had to do was stop one man-kinda like WVU, and the offense would crumble-but no one seemed to be able to do it. I honestly did not give Texas a chance since it seemed that USC was so loaded, and it turned out that has been the best BCS game I have ever seen. I ended up pulling for Vince Young as the underdog since they sat around and kept hearing how they would have no chance, and took it as motivation and won the game. Maybe thats what everyone was wondering why tOSU last year wouldnt be doubly motivated to do the same since they basically were in the same boat vs LSU as Texas was vs USC.
Now they get to do it again, but who will be deemed the underdog in this game—-USC or tOSU? Or would you call it totally even?

“Said masses included Tony Hawk, who gasped in awe as Tebow grabbed the souvenir board Hawk gave him”

Gifts from celebrities? I think we need an NCAA investigation.

I’ll say it. The Ohio State defense has been a little soft that past couple years. It sucks, we know it. That’s what the problem is. If they want to put the ball on the ground and run it, no problem. Passing has been a little tricky in bowl games, mainly because they just run routes down the field and ignore open areas (see Fla and Lsu).

We can’t live off the 2002 and 2003 defenses that would have made Chris Leak and Matt Flynn wet their panties. I think USC will be a good look and see if Ohio State can actually play defense against teams that run AND pass. The 02 and 03 defenses made plays at the expense of other teams and players. Willis McGahee and Ken Dorsey are a good example. None were illegal hits, but I think the current teams have been programmed to be safe or not to hurt others.

Speed hasn’t been an issue. The problem is Big 10 games that OSU plays in are normally over by half or the third quarter. Tressel basically held a hand behind his back by giving Beanie 6 first hald carries against Wisky. Second half? 3 TDs by Beanie. I’m glad we play USC and if we lose, we lose. If we get blown out, the defensive coordinator needs to lose his job.

The 2004 defense, by all accounts sucked. Mostly new starters, different scheme from Dantonio’s high risk, high reward defenses. Marshall put up 21, Northwestern 33, and Iowa 33. Wow, that sucked. But then amazingly the 2005 defense was arguably the best Tressel defense outside of 02 or 03. They had a bunch of veterans and knew what they were doing.

Will the same migration to a good defense when it matters happen this year? Who knows. I’d rather watch and see than sitting here and saying “Troy Smith just got sacked again” (HOLY SHIT THATS ORIGINAL). I know the jerseys look similar, but depth charts from 2006 to 2007 look a whole lot different on both offense and defense. Most were sophomores and juniors last year.

So Fuck You. Thanks for reading.

PP @ 61

Did you even watch the 05’ Texas game in Columbus? So you’re telling me that a 3 point loss to the undefeated NC’s that year was the nail in the coffin for Ohio State…that is insane. Ohio State bounced right back, went to a BCS bowl that year and crushed ND (a 10-2 ND) and then went on to win back to back outright Big Ten titles and made back to back BCS NC appearances. Granted Ohio State lost the two BCS NCGs, but come on, let’s get real here. Tressel is having 2 of his best years in recruiting in 07 and 08; landed the #1 QB in the country. Kids from all over the country want to play for him, MD, FL, MI, PA, TX..ect.

So you’re telling us that you thought Ohio State was just kind of alright up until Texas beat them in 05.

Look back over the last 11 years.

97 – Beat Pac-10 Champ ASU in the Rose Bowl
98 – Beat Big-12 Champ aTm in Sugar Bowl
Coaching Change
02 – Beat undefeated, defending NC and Big East Champ Miami in NCG
03 – Beat Big-12 Champ KSU in BCS Bowl
05 – Beat ND in BCS Bowl
06 – Lost NCG
07 – Lost NCG

How many conference champions has your team beat in the last 10-15 years? By my math, were 4-2 against conference champions from other conferences.

What oc phil is trying to say is that there’s not a lot of black people in Columbus.

65) Class and race are not the same thing, but there is no doubt the two are linked way more than they should be in most of the world.

and Good luck on the bar PW.