THE ODDS: CUSTOM COACHING NOOSES FOR ‘08
Please welcome our guest The Kid, who you may recognize from Fire Mark May and various other pieces of exceptional ADD theater. With apologies to A.J. Daulerio, we’re going to have him set the odds on the tightest coaching nooses for 2008. Enjoy.
The summer has reached its All Star Break. We’re way way past the eternal hope of spring practice, we’re well into the dregs of voluntary workouts, early commits, and sweaty middle aged men taking bootleg photos of younger sweatier men at two a days is not that far around the corner. Hovering just around the 40 day mark, and we’re playing Noah. Its time to start building that Ark. Bring me two of every internet rumor! Bring me that ooey gooey mortar with which to build my caulk my flood faring vessel so I can storm the coming deluge of hysteria. Its time to start getting crazy. Its time to get pumped about football. 2009 has taken up its permanent home in the Xbox, and there’s nothing left to do but sit and wait.
HOWEVER! We can start throwing around some gentlemanly wagers, so let’s start laying the lines, collecting the vig, and keeping that book of mine all nice and tidy. In what I hope will be recurring as long as I’m allowed on the blogosphere’s cool kids table, I’ll be offering up the odds for a number of college football propositions. Starting things off on the right foot, right there at the tippy tippy top, Im going to set my aims on the CEOs, the Big Men, the head coaches of these fine programs of ours.
We’ve all been there. Hell, I’ve been there more times in the past 8 years than I care to fathom. The coaching search has taken on its own sort of biblical journey in my life, so much that I created my own freaking religion to celebrate the last one, but what I’m really trying to say to a good number of you breaking in the new top guys is that I’ve been there! I feel your pain, and I know exactly what it feels like to start out with so much uncertainty, so many expectatios, all the while worried that you’re teetering on the edge of the abyss and one man, ONE MAN, can pull you out of its gaping maw. The equally dark flip side to all of this is that little voice in the back of your head, a tiny tiny TINY needling voice somewhere in your subconscious that tells you that one day very soon, the honeymoon will be over.

A coach’s best friend, especially if they like being drawn and quartered.
This brings us to the first round of The Odds: Which fanbase sharpens the pitchforks first?
You know, SEC, I’m looking squarely at YOU, but its just not that simple is it? There’s plenty of guys out there who may not exactly have worn out their welcome, but maybe its time for that seat to start getting warm for the very first time. Logic and Reason be damned. We’re pricing in the overall insanity of a collected Team Nation when we set the lines, and let’s not forget the meat grinder that is going to be this season. It’s just bound to chew up and spit out those shiny new toys as fast as it shat them out at the end of last season. Its cold, its unforgiving, its merciless. I love it.
Rich Rodriguez, Michigan 5:4
This is the only photo of him we should ever use.It goes without saying that the big old spotlight is going shine firmly on Coach Buyout for a good long time while he’s at that University of Meeechigan of his. Karma is a bitch, sir. You may have that big old paycheck of yours, but with it comes the hordes of corn and blue that want you to paste Ohio State. They’d also like a trophy for it. Hell, its the Big Ten, every win is a trophy! Meanwhile, that offense is going to have some growing pains and 3-9 Notre Dame is not an automatic win. Here’s hoping you get the lead out by Week 2, or that smug sense of Midwestern entitlement is going to rear its ugly head real fast. It should also take that long for the Mountaineers to locate, travel to, and burn down your new house.
Charlie Weis, Notre Dame, Even
Now, I know what you’re going to say. Traitor. Heretic. Episcopalian. Let’s take a step back and realize that not every Irish fan is the most rational when it comes to their team. For every diehard posting all the news thats fit to print (as long as it says we’re improving), there’s scores of hand wringers ready to say the sky is falling. This will be the case until someone actually wins a bowl game and/or national title. These are really the only two (one?) concrete ways to end the unending Notre Dame Comeback Tour in my lifetime. Look. I’m not saying the Irish will be bad. I’m not saying Weis turns it around this year. What I am saying is that somehow, someway, EVERYBODY WILL PANIC at some point in the season. You can practically set your watch to it.
Bobby Petrino, Arkansas 3:1
Getting the belt: not always pretty.WOOOOOOOOOOO! We’re saying that in the Ric Flair fashion and not the traditional Pig Sooey! The Hogs subtract one Humanity Advanced, drop a close one or two, and the crazy parents start rearing their gly heads again. I’m not going to put it past Mrs. Mustain to stop her handiwork until the entire state burns down, and there’s always the decent chance that Houston Nutt finds some way to win over at Ole Miss. That, my friends, would be a big ol’ beefy forearm to the bread basket. WOOOOOO!
Rick Neuheisel, UCLA 8:1
What kind of oddsmaker would I be if I didn’t bring up my favorite? I know its a long shot. The warming glow of Golden Boy out there in Westwood is sure to last a long time, especially coming out of the zealous Fire Dorell crusade. BUT, I have to say that shiny new coach or not, getting one’s ass kicked by Southern Cal sure has to grind one’s gears. The ridiculous mojo that was Karl is no more, so the Bruins are definitely mortal against the Trojans, and Pete Carroll is sure to want to exact sweet, loving revenge at the hands of his least favorite spoilers. Its going to be a lot like “300.” This will not be quick, and you will not enjoy it. Optimism fades real quick when the Humanitarian finds a way to hang 60 on you.
When we think “Southern California” and 300, we tend to think of other things, actually.—ed.









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Hoosierdaddy says:
Can’t believe you don’t have Kirk Ferentx in there yet. Even without the rape allegations. Big $$, awful record even worse discipline with his players
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:21 am
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UgasTexan says:
Episcopalian.
Katholik.
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:27 am
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hobeg8r says:
What are the odds for Tommy Bowden if he doesn’t win the ACC?
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:34 am
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charlestowne says:
I don’t see how Tommy Bowden doesn’t top any list of coaches in the hot seat. (Of course, prognosticators might be getting tired of putting him up there every year.) If he doesn’t win the ACC or win 10 – 11 games this year, with this schedule, the Clemers will definately start calling for his head. Especially with a top 10 preseason ranking.
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:39 am
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rjsplow says:
Ferentz should be on a different list:: “coaches who know what they’re doing.” He’s executing Iowa’s descent into mediocrity to perfection. He must have taken some vocational classes at the “Bobby Bowden school of lowered expectations” since he’s realized the following three tricks to keep his job:
1) Discipline problems grab headlines from records. When people are bitching about the discipline system of the program, which could be generously described as “prison-rules”, there’s not enough space for that AND complaining about the record for the past three years.
2) Solid recruiting rankings, despite lowered output on the field. This gives the fan base immediate optimism about one month after the season’s conclusion. This helps quell the native’s angst over a bad season better than anything else, and bridges the gap to the hope generated by spring football. And the most important thing…
3) Don’t lose too quickly. Descend into the cellar of your respective conference, don’t plummet. A 6-game win/loss turnaround is much more palatable over a 3-year period than it is from one season to the next.
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:42 am
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yoyofutbawl says:
LSUfreek should do a lurking Danny Ford peering over the stands into Frank Howard Field.
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:44 am
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SEC Supremacist says:
No Tommy T? You know that pesky BOT is always trying to get him gone!
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:53 am
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White Speed Recieiver says:
Episcopalian? Why don’t you take off the kid gloves and just call him a Baptist?
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:54 am
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Crabapple Buck says:
The Kid only rated one coach on a hot seat, our old pal Charlie Weis. No first year coach will get the axe. Petrino will never get fired, because he’ll leave for another job before they can can him. Charlie will show improvement, if only because he can’t be any worse. ND expectations should be pretty low, but you will still hear some hope for a BCS bid.
Tommy Bowden, Bobby Bowden, Kirk Ferentz and JoePa are on the hot seat. Dadgummit Bowden will quit or be forced out after another mediocre season and Fisher in place to take over. JoePa will either die on the sideline or just not be renewed at season end. State Penn knows it has do go forward after another underwhelming season. As for Tommy & Kirk, previous commenters have touched on the sense of urgency for both.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:02 am
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Crabapple Buck says:
And if Washington has a brain, Ty Willingham will be unemployed and teeing off soon also.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:03 am
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socalbryan says:
The last video is fantastic… and more true that most people in this country realize.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:03 am
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DC Trojan says:
That last video wasn’t especially funny… until the guy shows up with the bag of oranges.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:11 am
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Alpha Wolf says:
No Ralph Friedgen? If the Terps go 5-7 or 6-5 this season, I predict there will be a lot of angry turtles. As it is, Fridge has been bleeding in-state recruits to Penn State and Rutgers, which has not pleased the Maryland home faithful.
As for Tommy Bowden, there might indeed be a roar for his job from Tiger fans, but he just got an extension, making a buyout pretty expensive. Plus, his recruiting is going very well. I predict he survives anything but a complete meltdown.
Finally, Al Groh at UVA might find things getting warm for him if the Hoos are not heard from this season.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:13 am
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Pirate Petey says:
arrrrr – everyone knows them Alabama fans will be sharpening their pitchforks and heating up the tar if Lord Saben don’t bring home some Tiger meat in Nov
They pays him a mighty large chest o’ booty and expect him to “beat your’n with his’n”
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:45 am
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hobeg8r says:
The obvious firing has to be Mike Stoops.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:51 am
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Mr. Pelican Pants says:
Which begs to question…which came first,
a winning program with a losing coach, or a losing program with a winning coach?
Or a winner with a coaching problem, or a coach with a losing problem? Converse quietly amongst yourselves
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:53 am
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Mark D says:
At almost any other Pac-10 school, I’d put odds at 3:2 for Mike Stoops. Except that, I don’t think Arizona fans (actually, “casual observer of Wildcat football” is a more precise description) are going to get too riled up over him. There’s a mindset in Tucson that UofA will be bad to mediocre for the foreseeable future, Stoops or no Stoops.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:58 am
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Mr. Pelican Pants says:
Honestly, I think any coach with the last name
“Stoops” should go ahead and line his underwear with
Icy-Hot, just to get used to the feeling of the hot seat…
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:07 am
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yoyofutbawl says:
Pelican -
My take:
“Winning program w/ a losing coach” Burp, ND/Chollie The Hutt
“Losing program w/ a winning coach(es)?” Fits the USChikins/SOS-Loooouuuu to a tee.
“Winner w/ a coaching problem?” Bammer pre-Satan
“Coach w/ a losing problem?” Anybody who is dumb enogh to be head coach at Michigan State.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:16 am
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fife in the bay says:
how does Try not make the list? or is it a foregone conclusion that he is already fired?
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:19 am
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Michael says:
I can’t tell if this is serious or not, but good lord is the section on RichRod stupid. First of all, Michigan fans do not have especially high expectations generally. We have some pretty low self-esteem for being fans of the winningest program in history. Alternatively, this can be described as “realism,” something that is completely foreign to Notre Dame fans who are forever bragging about their future accomplishments and have a hard time squaring 3-9 with “but G-d wants us to win!”
Second, Michigan fans have come to expect average coaching in the post-Bo era. It’s not like the bar is set especially high.
Third, Michigan fans understand quite well that the offensive line is a hodge podge of players who couldn’t beat out the starters from last year’s mediocre unit. We understand that the quarterback isn’t a good fit for the most recent iteration of the RR offense. We understand that the offense lacks the supply of short, fast people needed to properly run the spread bone. We understand that the safeties are a huge question mark. Again, we’re a detached, realistic bunch. Something about the secular humanism that Bill O’Reilly is always bitching about, I guess.
In sum, most Michigan fans are expecting 8-4. 7-5 won’t be met with too much derision. Yeah, people won’t be happy if we aren’t winning big in three years, but THAT’S TRUE OF EVERY MAJOR PROGRAM. No coach has a license to be mediocre for years. (But see: Paterno, Bowden, etc.) I can say quite confidently that Michigan fans are not irked about RR having to pay a buyout to WVU, unless Michael Rosenberg = all Michigan fans.
In sum, don’t dream up dissent and dissatisfaction where none exists. We’re not ND Nation. We aren’t assuming that a bunch of sophomores are about to go 10-2. We’re too busy naming our sons “Barwis.”
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:07 pm
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Will (the other one) says:
Tommy B. always seems to get off the hotseat by beating the gamecocks at season’s end.
Which makes me wonder, would another .500 or thereabouts season (ending in a loss to Clemson) heat up SOS’s seat in Columbia?
And would the visor’d one even notice on the golf course down the road in Augusta?
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:40 pm
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Barwis says:
Michael from Michigan is an idiot. Most TRUE Wolverine fanzzz KNOW we are going to go 13-0 this year and there’s no doubt about it! Can’t wait to pound OSU into the GROUND this year. I think I speak for the rest of the Michigan Faithful when i say MICHIGAN IS BACK! ! ! Our skill players are SICK and we are chock full of talent! RICH ROD HOO-AHHH!! Ryan Mallet? WHO NEEDS HIM?!? It’s all about the speedy QBs baby! We got the next Pat WHITE!
It wouldn’t be a Michigan post without mentioning how much ND SUX and how delusional their SHITTY fans are! Let’s see if you can score a touchdown this year with Jimmy “the Ostrich” Clausen! Good luck turdboyz! Now that’s something Michael and I can agree on! Oh yeah, Charlie Weiss is FAT!!
Git ready to git pwn’d, Tressel! You might want to bring an extra set of Pampers, because we are gonna make you dump in ur pantz this year!! Im calling it now: UM 31 OSU 6….in ur face, Pryor!
-Barwis
July 23rd, 2008 at 1:39 pm
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Nick says:
21
I hope you were tryig to be sarcastic. If so, bravo, hilarious post.
If you were actually serious (and judging from what I’ve heard talking to the Michigan fans I know you are) then get ready for a surprise. The reason the odds are set at 5:4 are because of what you just said, “most Michigan fans are expecting 8-4.” If that isn’t lunacy, I don’t know what is. As you so eloquently stated, “the offensive line is a hodge podge of players who couldn’t beat out the starters from last year’s mediocre unit … the quarterback isn’t a good fit for the most recent iteration of the RR offense … the offense lacks the supply of short, fast people needed to properly run the spread bone … the safeties are a huge question mark.”
Expect that bowl streak to come to a screeching halt this year. Seriously, make sacrifices to the gods if UM reaches 6 wins.
July 23rd, 2008 at 1:47 pm
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The Song of Hiawatha Francisco says:
“Michael from Michigan is an idiot.” Seconded. I’m not really sure why he’d bring up Notre Dame — twice — in a post about Michigan. Normally, I’d let that shit go, but stupid people bother me.
Michael, Notre Dame fans have no trouble understanding last season’s debacle. The team was young and not very good at football. In many games, including the one against Michigan, I’m not even sure that Notre Dame was playing football, at least in the “blocking,” “tackling,” and “gaining yards” senses.
Second, Notre Dame fans never expected a team of sophomores and freshmen to go 10-2 (or 11-2 or 10-3). We hoped, certainly, but we both know hope springs eternal in August. But the media was sure quick to jump Notre Dame’s and Weis’s shit when that team of sophomores and freshmen played like a team of sophomores and freshmen. It was a fucking strawman.
Honestly, we ND fans are in the same situation as you describe for Michigan’s fanbase: 8-4 (plus a bowl win, for the love of God) will be a triumph, and 7-5 (again, plus a bowl win, even if it’s the Diamond Almond bowl or the Weedeater bowl) will not be met with too much derision.
July 23rd, 2008 at 2:07 pm
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Mr. Pelican Pants says:
Hey Michigan has THE Sam McGuffie……guaranteed win vs. tOSU , he is the white Noel Devine minus the kids
July 23rd, 2008 at 2:53 pm
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hunglikehussain says:
If Mr. McGuffie tries that “leaping shit” against DIV. 1 defenses, he will soon be known as Mrs. McGuffie.
/I actually enjoy watching his highlights.
July 23rd, 2008 at 4:40 pm
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Chaimy says:
Where’s the Burger Thief? Bowden’s successor is already named and the team is going to suck…
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:22 pm
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SpartanDan says:
>> “Coach w/ a losing problem?” Anybody who is dumb enogh to be head coach at Michigan State.
I wish I could disagree. There’s hope that Dantonio can solve that problem, but after the debacle against Michigan last year I’m just hoping he’ll at least learn from his own mistakes, since he didn’t seem to learn from his predecessor’s.
>> Ryan Mallet? WHO NEEDS HIM?!?
I realize your post was a total spoof – except that this is, if last year’s performance was any indication, absolutely true. Mallett would have been the most hilariously inept QB in the nation last year (despite occasional flashes of competence) if not for Jimmy Clausen. Henne played better with his arm falling off.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:18 pm
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Crawtater says:
For a second there I thought I was on the wrong blog, given the uncharacteristic oscillation between first person singular/plural. The royal “we” prevailed in the end, though, so all is as it should be.
@8 – Because he’s rarely seen carrying a (read: “The”) book.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:28 pm
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Mark says:
The hottest seat in the SEC is Fulmers, and I expect him to survive. I look for Spurrier to bolt to a better program or retire after another disappointing season with the Cocks.
July 23rd, 2008 at 8:40 pm
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Jim Grizzle says:
Mrs. Mustain? If you are going to insult the woman, at least get her name right. Hint: It’s not Mustain.
BTW, the real problems who were Nutt and Broyles have been eliminated. And fans are well aware of the tough upcoming year given the lack of talent Nutt was able to recruit AND retain, especially on defense.
July 27th, 2008 at 9:51 am