CURIOUS INDEX, 7/22/2008
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We, for ourselves, welcome our new quote overlord Les Miles. From the Wiz: Les Miles takes the Spurrier crown for pithy press conference pissantry. There was no question the attendees still bask in last November’s victory over former LSU head coach and Tide boss Nick Saban, and Miles brought down the house when he urged the faithful “not to make too much of that game as it seems like a lot of teams in Louisiana beat that team,” referencing Alabama’s shocking subsequent loss to Louisiana-Monroe.
I hate you. No, you can’t hear why I do. George O’Leary and the rest of the UCF football staff aren’t talking to the Orlando Sentinel, citing “inaccuracies” in the paper’s coverage of Ereck Plancher’s death. Which ones? O’Leary won’t say, which is a neat trick scammed from the angry preschooler playbook. Nappies and some time with Dora the Explorer required immediately. Pretty soon, he’s gettin’ a Flowbee so he doesn’t have to worry about haircuts, neither. Al Groh likes the ACC’s move to provide suggested biweekly injury reports. Why? Because it saves you bugging his ass, of course. “I don’t have any problem with it,” says Virginia coach Al Groh. “That means I don’t have to answer those stupid questions during the week.” Al Groh, of course, has always hated football, and is the guy in all commercials who really is tired of the simple task a superfluous gadget can save you the trouble of doing. Our colleague Dave Curtis dittoes calls for Ferentz’s resignation, though he’s skeptical; given the pattern thus far at Iowa, what makes anyone think Ferentz won’t get the chance to plausibly deny and then coach the upoming season? It’s never too early to enrage your opponent.A sport for all seasons, really: Notre Dame commit Cierre Wood is already taunting his future rivals from the comfort of a high school. “We are going to be good and Notre Dame football will be back. And I guarantee that we will beat USC the next three years.” Rey heard that. Fake your own death immediately. There’s ways, you know, of doing these things. |
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wooderson says:
That may be the best LSUFreek image of them all. I’m assuming the original subject is TR?
July 22nd, 2008 at 8:41 am
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AllWhoYonder says:
but I can’t be bothered to cook hot dogs the old way! I haven’t got time for that!
July 22nd, 2008 at 8:49 am
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hobeg8r says:
Let me see if I get this right? George O’Leary is complaining about inaccuracies? That man is a stand-up comedian. On a serious note, Ereck Plancher’s death could not have been handled any worse by a school administration. No, I take that back. Iowa would have undoubtedly handled it worse.
July 22nd, 2008 at 8:57 am
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Last Dragon says:
Every evening when Les has to go home and kiss that hideous looking wife of his, the other SEC coaches have the last laugh.
July 22nd, 2008 at 8:59 am
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Harris says:
Might as well talk shit; it’s not as if ND has had much success being polite and respectful.
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:05 am
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haybeav says:
I nearly fell out of my chair laughing when I heard that quote on Finebaum yesterday. But then I did finally fall over when Paul preceded to say that Miles is dumber than he looks, and that he must have fallen on his head when he was a little boy.
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:17 am
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haybeav says:
^^^^
Which would also explain why he has to wear just a large hat.
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:18 am
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Kecalf Bailey says:
How long had he been waiting for that, you think?
I’m not even offended, in fact I kind of like it. At least someone is holding this excuse for a football team accountable. Sort of.
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:25 am
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chuy says:
Last year everyone got riled up when Miles said USC had an easier road to the championship than LSU (again, at a booster meeting), then by the end of the year, he was given the benefit of the doubt over all other two loss teams, basically because of LSU’s strength of schedule.
It seems there is often a purpose behind Miles’ inflamatory comments. Finebaum, of all people, should recognize this.
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:33 am
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OhioDawg says:
Almost anything that makes college ball look like the NFL is bad (instant replay is the best example). It’s good to see Al Groh and his NFL attack at the bottom of PS’s predictions for the ACC this year.
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:39 am
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Doug says:
Has anyone ever seen George O’Leary and former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert in the same room together? I’m just saying.
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:40 am
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Biggus Rickus says:
Shouldn’t Finebaum feel some kind of fraternal affection for assholes?
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:41 am
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Scott A says:
I wonder if ND will be able to get it across the 50 this year. Not smart from a school that claims its academic requirements keep it from competing at a high level.
As for the earlier comment that Les Miles comments about strength of schedule influenced the popular view of their SOS and put them in the NC game–that’s foolish talk. The SEC superiority propaganda has been a decade long project that really got solid footing when Florida beat down the Buckeyes. Les is a very intense man and must know a thing or two about football, but lets not give him too much credit on the intellectual end of things.
ps I think that hot dog cooker will give me nightmares.
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:43 am
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Joshua says:
I’m sorry haybeav and Last Dragon, I’m having trouble reading your post because of the glare off of all the trophies LSU has won of late. Are you having the same problem? Cause that glare off of crystal is a mother.
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:46 am
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haybeav says:
Hey, the Independence Bowl is MIGHTY shiney
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:52 am
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Tater Salad says:
Joshua-
Are you the janitor at the athletic complex or something?
Plus 1 cocktail for Miles, though. That shit is funny
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:53 am
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Winfield says:
Oh Cierre,
Pete Carroll laughs at you through the comfort of facebook status
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:53 am
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blazin says:
I have to agree with O’Leary on this one: If an inaccuracy in a printed statement is pointed out, then afterwords we should have a cooling down period where no further questions are asked and we continue to go about our business like professionals.
July 22nd, 2008 at 9:59 am
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Jesus says:
If I averaged 15 yards a carry I’d be talking sh*t too.
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:06 am
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The Song of Hiawatha Francisco says:
@16:
Pete Carroll does not laugh at Cierre. Pete Carroll loves Cierre, and all of us, more than himself. Even more, he is jacked that he’ll get to comPete against an athlete of Cierre’s caliber.
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:13 am
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Raider Red says:
If Bama honks are upset with Les’ comments, maybe their team should beat La-Mon. At home.
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:14 am
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Joshua says:
Tater, I am indeed the janitor. I couldn’t get a better job when I failed a math exam where I said 12-2 is greater than 14-0. Everyone swears that’s impossible.
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:17 am
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Tony the Tiger says:
So Miles is dumb because he spoke the truth. So what does that make Saban, who rarely speaks the truth?
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:19 am
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Kenny says:
Love it. Let the Bama/LSU threadjacks begin! Good for you guys, as the rest of us are very excited to learn how LSU is, in fact, Alabama’s natural rival.
Poor Tennessee, eh? Going 4-11 against the Vols’ll get you demoted straight away by Bama fans. Much like dropping six to Auburn.
Of course, watch out LSU. When you win this year that’ll make six straight for the Bengal Tigers, so you’ll be demoted too.
Which leaves Mississippi State. Oh wait.
Houston Nutt! Get your troops ready! Your Rebels are now Bama’s natural rivals!
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:20 am
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hobeg8r says:
#17 – exactly what inaccuracies?
That it wasn’t a strenuous workout? (Which it was)
That Plancher wasn’t struggling? (Which he was)
That Plancher had a medical condition [sickle cell trait] which UCF initially claimed it didn’t know about? (Which it did).
In fact….The newspaper has asked UCF officials to outline the mistakes, but the school has declined to discuss the errors in detail.
In other words, there are inaccuracies in your story but we’re not going to tell you what they are.
What the Orlando Sentinel did was called investigative journalism.
George O’Leary may be a great coach. But he is also a jerk. And a proven liar.
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:21 am
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DC Trojan says:
Joshua @ 22 – LOL, good sir.
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:41 am
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wooderson says:
Scott A, the coaches that claimed academic restrictions kept them from winning are no longer employed by ND. Perhaps if they’d worked a ltitle harder at recruiting, that wouldn’t have been an issue.
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:43 am
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Excuse me Stewardess, but I speak jive says:
First off, anyone who listens regularly to Paul Finebaum for intelligent unbiased opinion should be removed from teh gene pool.
secondly, no-wait. that’s it.
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:49 am
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gerry dorsey says:
the big white hat is funny and all, but if not for the manchildbeastfreak known as chad jones (and not les’ “superb” in game coaching), he might be singing a different tune.
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:50 am
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GeronimoRumplestiltskin says:
Re: #13 and #27
Mr. Wooderson is quite right – though, to Mr. Willingham’s credit he never used that excuse. Ty seemed rather content with the way things were going.
Bob Davie, recruiting Top 15 classes and finishing with 6 or more losses 3 out of 5 seasons: “The academic requirements are too tough! Our schedule is too tough! The weather is too cold! There aren’t any good BBQ restaurants here! The school won’t support me! I don’t have any talent on my roster!”
Ty, recruiting two of the worst classes in 40 years and losing 6 or more games in 2 out of 3 years: “Everything’s great. I don’t need to change assistants, my recruiting strategy, or anything. Our players just need to play better. But still, we did win almost half of our games the last two years, so I count that as a success.”
Charlie, after the worst season in 40 years: “It’s my fault and I’m going to fix it. I’ll give up playcalling and become more of a head coach than an OC, I’ll bring in a new assistant to help with the defense, I’ll continue to recruit like crazy, I’ll pick Frank Beamer’s brain about special teams play, etc. etc. etc.”
Weis may not end up as a success at ND, but I prefer his approach greatly to the last two clowns we had.
GR
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:22 am
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matt says:
its funny….les’ team needed a sarah-jessica-parker-wilson fumble to beat the team he’s poking fun at…just wait you fucking imbecile
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:25 am
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Nashville Crimson says:
Les Miles can fuck his hat. Wilson handed them the damn game at the 5 yard line. Miles is a lucky bitch and should have lost four times last year. The once and future king is coming back to Red Stick, coonasses. Have the red carpet ready cause your return to mediocrity is imminent.
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:37 am
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Mr. Ashley Russell says:
great- we’re back to the ever-pointless “if only” arguments…
yes, if not for a fumble the outcome may have been different. Or if the defense could have stopped them, or if half the offense had never showed up.
“just wait you fucking embicile”… nice and intelligent, well thought out, and very poignant. Indeed, he better look out. let us all know when what we were waiting on happens- don’t want to miss it when you do something like lose worse to LSU (or La Monroe) or again to Auburn or cry more than normal or make more excuses or some exciting shock & awe campaign like that!!!
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:38 am
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PW says:
32
…and as a Bama fan, I am something of an expert in mediocrity.
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:39 am
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Crabapple Buck says:
Sure is good to see the Tide fanbase is still humble after these last 15 seasons of mediocrity.
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:42 am
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chuy says:
29-
Although a true freshman last year, Chad Jones must be a Saban recruit, because I’m told that’s the only way Miles wins…
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:43 am
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PW says:
Also, wasn’t the game tied with about 2 minutes left when JPW fumbled? So it’s not like Bama was assured victory if not for the fumble.
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:00 pm
38
War Damn Eagle says:
Wow… I hate to say it, but the average man would throw out his back if he had to carry Les Miles’ balls around.
Even Gainesville-era Spurrier had to be impressed with that one.
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:05 pm
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gerry dorsey says:
chuy, if you want to twist my words to where they work better for you than have at it.
and pw. that’s why i said “might”be singing a different tune.
you know everybody loves to talk about how much bama sucks, than why does les need to run his mouth?? for his next trick is he going to run smack on north texas??
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:06 pm
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Mr. Ashley Russell says:
hey gerry dorsey-http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/thanthen.html
you are also smarter than a 5th grader, i see…
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:17 pm
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gerry dorsey says:
mr. ashley russell (so you took your wife’s name?), if you find enough grammar problems with my comment to comment on it yourself, you’ve got a loooong day ahead of you.
at least you’re hilarious…which is nice.
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:23 pm
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PW says:
Gerry @ 29
Is the athleticism disparity between LSU and Bama really that great? Seriously? It seems really petty so say “yeah, we lost…but he didn’t outcoach us.” I’m not even sure Miles was making such a claim.
But I guess these discussion boards wouldn’t be as fun without arguments like yours.
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:30 pm
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gerry dorsey says:
pw i would say not yes, but hell yes. if you completely take both coaches out of the equation, and go position by position with last year’s squads, i can’t see how you can come to any conclusion other than lsu was (and is) much more talented (and deeper) than bama. i think this is one thing most bama and lsu fans can agree on.
and by the way, i was actually trying to kiss chad jones’ ass for being the stud he is more than anything else in my original comment.
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:35 pm
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Joshua says:
my own personal if for that game, since it’s a regular Doctor Who convention of What Coulda Been If Only Things Were Different That One Time was in the second quarter when LSU was rolling and about to blow the game open. It was going to get ugly before LSU screwed up with some mindnumbing penalties close to the red zone.
And don’t worry, we’ll have the red carpet out. Well, it’s white, but after Saban’s bled all over it from the batteries, ice, wildcats and throwing stars tossed into his inflated head, it should be the crimson you prefer.
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:40 pm
45
Joshua says:
easy Gerry, don’t let Josh Hamilton hear about this other crush.
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:41 pm
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gerry dorsey says:
if only chad jones would have gone and played baseball with josh hamilton like i was praying for him to do.
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:49 pm
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chuy says:
gerry,
I wasn’t twisting words, just pointing out the following: you said LSU won because of Chad Jones; Chad Jones is a Miles recruit; many bama fans say LSU is only winning because of Saban’s recruits.
Thus, either Chad Jones is not the reason LSU won, or Miles wins with other than just Saban’s players.
Bama fans can’t have it both ways — why don’t y’all get together and pick whichever excuse makes you feel better…
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:56 pm
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gerry dorsey says:
so you werent twisting my words, just jumping to the conclusion that i’m like “many bama fans.” that being said, i for one actually give miles credit for being one helluva recruiter more than anything else he does. the sooner you stop lumping me in with “many bama fans” the sooner you’ll be able to understand my words.
July 22nd, 2008 at 1:06 pm
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PW says:
Gerry
I thought Saban was primarily known for being a great recruiter (even to the point of signing too many recruits). Can you think of any examples where he’s shown superb in-game strategery?
July 22nd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
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gerry dorsey says:
pw/chuy/mr. ashley russell = smarter than gerry
lsu/miles > bama/saban
there, now we can go about our day
July 22nd, 2008 at 1:14 pm
51
chuy says:
You liked my jump to conclusions mat?
I keed, gerry, I keed. I won’t lump you in again…
July 22nd, 2008 at 1:15 pm
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PW says:
Dude, I’m not even an LSU fan. Also, note that I wasn’t the one who called you out on the then/than thing…typos are to be expected on blogs (unless Orson makes one– you can hammer him because he was an English major).
I just don’t really like Saban.
July 22nd, 2008 at 1:24 pm
53
Steve says:
LSU fans have won the right to ridicule us Alabama fans, especially after our performance last year against U-La-Mo.
Having said that, if I were an LSU fan, I would be shitting my knickers right now thinking about keeping Miles around for several more years.
I don’t think there has been a coach that has done less with more talent since, well, ever. The only way the guy could sniff the national championship game was a complete fluke year where a 2 loss team could play in the game. There is no doubt that LSU has had the most talented team in the country this side of Los Angeles for the last five or six years.
Christ, the guy fucking lost to Kentucky and Arkansas last year, and nearly lost to Florida, Auburn, and lowly Alabama.
I would be more worried about taking out insurance on that horseshoe he had surgically implanted in his ass than I would be about anything the Bama nation can bring to Baton Rouge.
July 22nd, 2008 at 1:46 pm
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NewAZTiger says:
I’m going to love watching Bama fans in 2008.
Saban’s D had problems against the Spread last year.
24 Points to Houston – who had a last minute potential game-winning drive end with an INT. Houston.
21 Points to La Mo. Oops.
24 Points to Colorado.
That’s not reassuring, considering the quality of the opponent that hung up those points. and the paucity of Linebackers.
They play at least 7 teams in 2008 that run the spread (Clemson, Tulane, WKU, Arkansas, Kentucky, Arkansas State, AU) , as well as 2 teams that don’t run the spread but have better talent than they do (LSU, UGA). It’s going to be a long, wonderful year watching Saban’s D collapse again and again vs the Spread.
July 22nd, 2008 at 1:56 pm
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Tony the Tiger says:
53 – Miles has coached 3 Seasons at LSU. His first season he went to the SECCG and destroyed Miami in the Peach Bowl. His second season he went to the Sugar Bowl and destroyed Notre Dame. His third Season he won an SECCG and a destroyed OSU for a BCS title. Let’s see, 2 BCS bowl victories, 2 championships in 3 years – how is that any worse than what Saban did with his own players in Baton Rouge?
Saban won 2 SECCGs and 2 BCS bowl games in 5 years. Do the math.
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:22 pm
56
Excuse me Stewardess, but I speak jive says:
more fun than (or is it “then”) watching Alabama go near winless will be watching them come up with different excuses each and every week for why they keep losing to teams that didn’t deserve to win.
possible excuses:
-”if only we hadn’t gotten sacked that last 11 times…”
-”if only we hadn’t thrown that pick…”
-”if only we hadn’t fumbled…”
-”if only we had called ‘heads’ instead of ‘tails’…”
-”if only the Bear was still around…”
how about “if only we had scored more points than our opponent!?!?!?!” I mean, shit- even Corso can figure out that that is at least somewhat important to winning ball games…
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:25 pm
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matt says:
tony-the-tiger… i know its a cliche but the first two seasons miles was at lsu the starters were almost exclusively sabans players, and the majority of last years nc team’s players were sabans recruits as well, and he had to get damn lucky last year on several occasions to win. I’m not predicting an lsu collapse, but a few 8-4 seasons are much more likely than lsu winning any sec or nc’s in the near future9 (btw, I’m an Alabama fan, and I would be happy to go 8-4 this year)
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:33 pm
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blon57 says:
#56
You can add:
” we didn’t lose, the clock ran out…”
We hear that a lot from a university located inTexas.
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:49 pm
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oc phil says:
Hiawtha @ 20: You are entirely correct. Coach Carroll isn’t the problem here. The poor kid may have just provoked Rey Maualuga into taking extra Notre Dame head or two as trophies though.
And the kid’s 15 ypc is impressive but then Everson Griffen had gaudy numbers like that as a tailback too. And he’s now on the defensive line
July 22nd, 2008 at 3:21 pm
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Mr. Pelican Pants says:
I am personally pulling for Rey Rey to have a career day against tOSU and Notre Dame…I think he can win the Heisman if he personally limits Beanie Wells to
-75 yrds rushing…..and knocks Jimmy Clausen so hard Jimmys hair breaks off at the root
July 22nd, 2008 at 5:28 pm