BHGP ON FERENTZ: RESIGN

Well said, sirs

Pita Pit > Jimmy John’s

Ryno,

I cannot agree with you. If Pita Pit > Jimmy Johns, then Pita Pit > Cocaine. False.

This reminds me of an incident at a hotel where I was staying. I woke up to the smell of smoke around 2AM. I immediately called the front desk – who said that they were aware of the problem and were “handling it.” [I later found out that their definition of handling it “in house” was to send 2 young busboys to investigate because they did not want to alarm other guests with all of the sirens, etc.] I called back several minutes later when the smoke became more noticeable. This time I asked for an outside line and called 911. Amazingly, I was the first call. The busboys survived. The hotel did not. 99% of the time handling things in house -without the benefit of outside experts – never really works. BHGP is right. Resignation is the only answer.

Agreed. It’s still amazing how quickly a coach can go from being the toast of college football to pariah status.

Well, Ferentz came from us (University of Maine) and we here in the Pine Tree State have another fabulous coach that I will pay for you to poach from us. Jack Cosgrove…. He enjoys predictable play calling, pathetic special teams, and having his contract renewed after after 10+ years with a LOSING record.

Please take him?!?!?!?

Bravo to BHGP.

Tommy Bowden’s probably got some room on his staff.

He can come coach at Jacksonville St.

On an unrelated but much brighter note, CNNSI is reporting that there’s a good chance Larry Munson will be coming back to call UGA home games

ahoy….can anyone tell me why this is not receiving any attention at ESPN?…nothing on the CFB website

webmaster over there must be breaking in a new cabin boy

University misdeeds aside, and I think this was mentioned on an earlier thread, but why in the hell did this girl and her parents not go to the police immediately?

@ pirate petey

just have to wait. clay will come over from deadspin, post article, and then espn will then pick it up.

the times, they are a changin…

@ #10 RE: ESPN coverage-
They do have some coverage on the Big Ten blog page, but I didn’t see anything on the main CFB page.

I’m inclined to wait until more clear facts come out from all sides. Saying that, this is the kind of thing that brings down head coaches. It’s also the kind of thing that brings down university presidents. (And I’m an Auburn fan, so I know about that last one.)

PW,

She was an athlete who apparently thought the athletic department would do right by her, assuming the letter isn’t heavily laced with bullshit.

Not to make light of this, but for the first time, I have actually seen a situation actually worse, by a mile, than the Lawrence Phillips ordeal. Oh Iowa, it is going to get alot worse before it gets better.

“Pita Pit > Jimmy John’s”

Incorrect, sir.

Larry beat the hell out of Kate McEwen. I guess that makes it better, maybe, somehow. There definitely wasn’t anything close to a coverup, although she was also student-athlete.

I know the U of I athletic department is looking at the fallout of Gary Barnett et. al. — specificially, the et. al — finally catching it in the neck out at Colorado. The fact that the accuser/alleged victim is also a student-athlete makes the entire coverup not only understandable but also more reprehensible.

I think hobeg8r is right about BHGP being right.

warmed-over ass > jimmy john’s

Where is the coverup? This is the victims mother making allegations. Its not like she is not biased or anything. I am sure she has no reason to shift blame regarding her daughter being wasted in a dorm room with 2 dudes at 3AM. Point is, who knows what happened here, but it looks like the facts will come out. If there was some vast conspiracy, then everyone should burn. However, after the fallout from the PP debacle, I have a hard time believing that the University did anything other than follow policy. If they didn’t or if their policy is to “sweep it under the rug”, then throw em all out on their asses.

“Its not like she is not biased or anything. I am sure she has no reason to shift blame regarding her daughter being wasted in a dorm room with 2 dudes at 3AM.”

None of this would have ever happened if the girl could handle her liquor?

Gary Barnett approves.

RJ, if I were you I’d get running before the rest of the mob shows up with the torches and pitchforks.

Read the article again. Then read some of the other articles on the paper’s website. If that isn’t straightforward investigative journalism, I don’t know what is.

Re 22: It’s cover up plus a lack of sensitivity towards the reported victim. The university has been more delicate with the men who reportedly did these actions. It’s the opposite of the real world. Had this been two guys who lived on a street three doors down form the woman, their house would have been vandalized and they’d be in a holding cell waiting trial.

Albino,

Oh, I know that Larry wasn’t giving out love taps to McKeon, but no cover up by the admin. (if true) One may thing that Osborne is a slease bag, but he is an upfront slease bag.

However, to retort my own argument, I don’t think that the Neb athletic departmet really had a chance to cover this up, even if they wanted too. Scott Frost got the cops there pretty quick.

GD, “think”, not “thing”.

Ferentz should be forced to accept a contract buyout comprised entirely of Chizik Nickels.

After twenty years of watching consistently high level incompetence from the Alabama athletic department (please don’t ask for a list) occasionaly interrupted by momentary lapses of intelligence, I thought I’d seen/heard everything.

Then I read this, and now I am both replused and relieved. Repulsed that this could happen at any university, and relieved that (for once) it’s not Alabama – we only have a problem with drug dealers.

If they need a new AD with Big Ten experience, Rick Greenspan is available. He’ll bring in Kelvin Sampson to get the basketball team going and then hire Gary Barnett to put a dress on that pig of a football team. Good times ahead!

1. I am sure she has no reason to shift blame regarding her daughter being wasted in a dorm room with 2 dudes at 3AM.

So, if you leave a bar, drunk and happen to walk down the wrong street, get mugged, shot, etc. you deserve it? You may have made a bad decision about the alcohol consumption, but you do not deserve to be the victim of a crime.

Who has the greater obligation to the victim: the university or her family? If the victim was your daughter, sister, girlfriend, whatever, would you even dream of letting her NOT go to the police? Obviously, the university handled this about as poorly as they possibly could, but the victim’s mother did her a huge disservice by allowing her to take he so-called informal route. By condoning UI’s in-house investigation, she assumes part of he blame, which adds a whole new level of suck to he already huge pile.

RJ – if there is ANY unversity which has a policy of telling a young woman who claims to have been sexually assaulted that it will conduct an internal investigation of the alleged crime – instead of IMMEDIATELY calling the police – then, it does not deserve to be in business of educating our children – let alone operate a football team. [Pitchfork raised].

From the University of Iowa Preamble to its Code of Conduct: “The University of Iowa has a deep respect for the intrinsic value of each human being, and a steadfast commitment to promoting and protecting human rights on its Iowa City campus, in its surrounding community, and beyond.”

Dear University of Iowa,

If you decide to fire your President, you can have Mary Sue Coleman back. Please.

Best regards,

Michigan students during MSC’s reign

P.S. If you don’t want to take someone who currently has a President job, I hear Martin Jischke is available.

If only Gary Barta were more like Tred Barta, this never would have happened.

bj: “By condoning UI’s in-house investigation, she assumes part of he blame, which adds a whole new level of suck to he already huge pile.”

Of course, there are those who think that any university athletic dept. that would have an “in-house” response to a student being sexually assaulted that doesn’t have “call the police right fucking now” as Option #1 deserves the full brunt of public anger and outrage associated with such a morally bankrupt suggestion.

(Further, those of us who are parents can understand being a bit confused by seemingly-reassuring authority figures at our child’s school in the immediate wake of our son or daughter being the victim of a violent crime, and tend to apportion the blame accordingly…)

Meatybob —

Correct me if you’re wrong, but you’re saying that “that sleaze bag Osborne” and Nebraska’s athletic department doesn’t deserve “credit” for not covering up the Larry Phillips situation because they didn’t get a chance to cover it up.

Can’t have it both ways. Either you demonstrate character by not covering something up — or at least don’t fuck it up worse by trying to close the barn doors once the horses are out — or you didn’t. You can disagree with LP’s suspension and/or reinstatement; that’s as much a matter of personal conscience. However, you can’t argue that the athletic department covered up anything or even wanted to.

And Scott Frost couldn’t have untied himself and gotten out of the closet to call the cops that fast on his own. I think McEwen’s neighbors called the cops, considering they couldn’t really miss the whoopin’ goin’ on in the hallway.

33 and 36 are dead on. The University policy to a report of sexual assault should be to immediately contact the police. Full Stop. No formal versus informal investigation, no University procedures — CALL THE FREAKING POLICE. From there they can do any investigation they want but a sexual assault is a criminal matter, not an academic one.