Their new home is nowhere near Miami. Dolphin’s Stadium sucks balls.

Did I say Dolphin’s Stadium? Like, one dolphin owns it? Jeez. DOLPHINS Stadium.

Until the Clemson guy gets “Howard’s” and “Lock” tattooed on the undersides of his arms, the bama super fan will win this battle of poor judgement.

Go ahead and pre-order your copy now…come on…you know you want to…

http://www.thewinnersmanual.com/

I hope you all appreciate how difficult it is to read and post here while standing on my head with a glass balanced on my taint.

Oddly enough, the class on this in law school was taught by a student assistant…some guy named Brady Quinn or something like that.

don’t miss the sequel to “the winners manual,” …“except when it matters most” including forwards by les miles and urban meyer.

I don’t know how RichRod thought for one second he could win that one. He was done in 15 minutes into the first day.

aaayyyyyyy…. me and the U of Miami are in negotiations… they want me ta fire me cannons from the shore over the top of the stadium… something about the crowds feeling at home with gunfire

but I swore away from providing field security… me swabbies ain’t touched in the head enough to get in the middle of a brawl in those crowds

I guess that 2+ year window to finish the last chapter of The Winners Manual has passed. Time’s up! Put down your pencil.

Funny how RR ‘settled’ for what appears to be terms. Yay contract law! That was some negotiatin’ going on by his lawya(s).

Gerry, your memory is short if you forget 2002. I know Larry Coker hasn’t. Neither has your brother Ken.

I will reserve comment on the tattoos for fear that some idiot will have one of the Horseshoe and Woody show up on the interwebs and ebays. This does prove that Hepatitis C is not in these two parlors…yet.

1. BWhahahaaaaaaahhaaaaahahaaaaaa

#6
Ohio State: 4
LSU & UF: 44

All-Time Fulmer Cup Points.

I ask you, when does it matter most?

Holy Home Alone 2! That Clemson tattoo reminds me of Fruit Stripe gum! God, I loved that stuff back when I could afford it. Do they still make it? Can somebody send me some? That, or a $2 bill – nobody here has ever seen one of those.

sorry Roger, you tiger now.

RR was in quite a legal pickle the moment this case was returned to WV state court, although WV federal court wouldn’t have been too much better due to the jury pool. Leaving the difficulty of proving this in a court of law aside, I do think that WVU has suffered or will suffer $4,000,000 in damages due to RR leaving. Perhaps WVU won’t miss a beat and Bill Stewart will turn out to be an excellent coach, but I do think it will be a while before the likes of Alabama and Michigan come clamoring for him in back-to-back years.

Great show last night Orson. Phil is the real deal, so different from the talking heads at the mouse. He actually knows what he is talking about! Best format for him, let him start and the knowledge flows.

1. TAFKasTOSU – I think you accidentally clicked “Submit coment” before you you typed, “Fuck Saban and the entire State of Alabama and all of you SEC losers.”

Clemson Tim needs a tattoo of Danny Ford holding a checkbook.

coment = comment
SEC skillz, lawya!

“Fuck Saban and the entire State of Alabama and all of you SEC losers.”

1. and Perry Tuttle accepting said check-
   I can;t believe my folks even had a party that night for the Orange Bowl. HA – they still paid for my way to USC! Suckers!

Will “The Winner’s Manual” include quotes from Maurice Clarett, Ira Guilford, and Louis Irizarry?

Nate “Rammer Lammer” Loses because he has a typo on his tats.

Rammer Lammer Unmodified

Rammer Jammer if typeset properly.

Of course, Nate has a better pregame ritual.

You’ll have to read it to find out.

1. - are you sure that’s not a cumulative score in BCS games vs the SEC? Oh, that’s right, UF and LSU got more points than 44.

At least teams traveling to play da U won’t have to get tetanus shots anymore.

79-38 combined score

Too bad fans can’t score Fulmer Cup points.

Maybe Ohio State could then close the gap on LSU?

Excuse me while I go throw some Gamecock’s grandmas and children off the top of Sanford Stadium’s Tech Deck then douse a couple of Aubie’s cars – err, trucks – with gas and set them aflame.

Let me eat your baby!

@ 15

Where, exactly, did RR’s genius lawyers think the case would be heard?

Civil Procedure lecture aside, it was going to be heard in WVa, and RR’s lawyers knew that.

The better question is, how could nobody see this coming?

You question an intentionally vague checklist, where sticking a new computer in an office probably constituted, “facility upgrades,” and you expect WVa to crumble and settle over something along those lines?

I just don’t understand how RR’s handlers thought this was going to turn out well, even if they did have a valid argument, which they didn’t.

Will it cost WVa more than $4MM, in reality? Probably. But somebody is writing a fat check on RR’s behalf to Morgantown, and rightfully so.

The sad thing about all this is that WVa received a nice supplement to have offered a legitimate candidate for the job, which was the reason for the buyout clause in the first place, assuming RR was dead set on leaving.

Bill Stewart = windfall winner in all this

to all who don’t think that tOSU sucks.

Yeah, hate to say this, but because of Clarett, tOSU is in the same camp as miami and neb and a host of other schools as to be forever labeled as a “win at all costs” program. The number of books Dr. Sweatervest writes will not change that fact. You recruit that type of player, you die by that type of player.

“I just don’t understand how RR’s handlers thought this was going to turn out well, even if they did have a valid argument, which they didn’t.”

Well, it worked with Beilein just the year before. And really, considering the ongoing Garrison debacle, if this wasn’t going to all come down in November (a busy month for RichRod), I think it would have been interesting to see play out in court. Mud would be slung, and I think the more serious of it would have stuck to WVU than Coach Rich Rodriguez. But with Wets Fucking Virginia being the apocalyptic den of insanity that it is, no telling what a jury would choose to do.

#15,

I assume what the lawyers were thinking was “MONEY!!! WOOHOO!!! THIS HICK THINKS HE HAS A CHANCE??? BILLABLE HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!”

I’m sure there was ominous lightning in the background during the laughter at the end.

TAFKastOSUB,

give me the national title AND the fulmer cup points every single time. thank you for asking.

and crabapple buck,

well then i guess he should have come out with this book in 2003 then huh??

“One key that triggered a settlement appeared to be the pressure brought by WVU to depose Michigan President Sue Coleman and Athletic Director Bill Martin. There was a hearing scheduled in Michigan this afternoon on WVU’s attempts to force the two to testify under oath what they knew about the hiring of Rodriguez and the buyout clause in the contract with WVU.”

http://www.wvmetronews.com/index.cfm?func=displayfullstory&storyid=25358

Coop -

I would have to imagine that RR’s people wanted him to establish residency in Michigan to have the suit brought here. If you care to refute that by citing appropriate passages in Wright & Miller be my guest. It’s been a long time since I looked at residency, domicile, etc., and my only “research” into the venue was implications from reading RR’s deposition wherein one of the six attorneys WVU brought to the deposition was questioning why RR got a Michigan driver’s license so quickly.

As to the “legal strategy,” during negotiations, I presume that RR’s team thought that there would be a split-the-difference settlement like there usually is when a coach leaves.

In a less hostile venue, I think WVU might have had some difficulty proving their damages case, but again, in my gut, I think they were damaged that much. WVU may continue its run, and Stewart may still prove me wrong. We’ll see.

relistening to steele this morning i sometimes get the creepy feeling that if he had suddenly told us all to go kill a pig and bathe in its blood – we would do it.

I find it amusing that so many disrespect tOSU. There are two schools that have the right to give us grief over the last two BCS NC games. If you are just a fan of a team in the conference, you have zero credibility until your team takes its place in line.

Florida and LSU fans would like to have a valid championship. But if tOSU isn’t worthy, then I guess that means that their championships are tainted. If that is the case, we should just crown SC as they would have beaten both teams according to the fucktards that post the bullshit drivel even they must have a hard time believing.

Just a quick fact, each of the last 3 National Champions have beaten tOSU, Texas in the regular season and UF & LSU. The Buckeyes have shown to be consistent since Jim Tressel took over in 2001. The only coach with a better record in that time is comPete Carroll. All of the miscreants mentioned above were dismissed. Eugene Clifford will be gone soon also. I’m glad he is our coach. Let the flaming begin.

Clifford will be in Clifton by late August…

32

At least we’re clear on the issue – thank you for confirming what I already knew to be true.

1. - Actually, pretty much every team in the SEC can laugh at you until you stop being 0-fer-SEC in bowls. In fact, you’ve never beaten an SEC team outside of Columbus. So, as long as no Vandy or Kentucky kids are talking smack, the rest of the SEC is fair game.

Your closest loss to an SEC team in the last 2 decades was 3 points to Lou Holthzzzzzzzzz’s Gamecocks.

Lawyas, think tOSU could get out of its next BCS Title Game contract by Duke’s precedence?

wait, we’re talking about eyeglasses balanced on the taint…right?

Crabapple Buck, correct me if I’m wrong, but I could have sworn I heard somewhere that the SEC as a whole has absolutely owned Ohio State in Bowl games.

I could be mistaken though. Lets say hypothetically, I’m right, then it’s not hard to comprehend why other SEC teams would feel justified talking the proverbial OSU shit. (or “taking” an OSU shit…whatever the case may be)

And for the record…nearly all of Clarett’s problems (legal that is) occurred once he left campus. Based on the current point system, had the FC been around back in 2003, MoC would have netted The Ohio State University with no more than 2 points, if that.

Now compare that with a 28 point season that includes a double armed robbery and cocaine sales, both on campus.

It’s not even close.

If the only measuring stick used is bowl games, then it is a flawed system.

Take Penn State for example. They were a perennial powerhouse and national contender prior to joining the Big 10. In fact, I remember them beating Georgia for the NC.

What have they done since joining the Big Ten? They have lost 9 in a row against Michigan and they are 4-9 against Ohio State; 89-64 since joining the conference.

My point…BOWL GAMES ARE DIFFERENT THAN REGULAR SEAON CONFERENCE PLAY…especially the BCS bowl games….ever wonder why the underdog has won nearly all of the BCS NCG and why Vegas and the entire sports media world can never get it right.

and if your entire argument is based on bowl games then it is flawed…severely

Otherwise explain to me how Michigan beat Florida this year after being crushed by Ohio State and held to 3 points…or for that matter…explain any of the bizarre wins or losses we have seen in the bowl season.

TAFKastOSUB, chill out, man. There are some good things coming out of Columbus.

Since tOSU was allowed to play elsewhere than the Rose Bowl, they have lost 9 times to an SEC team.
1978 Sugar to Alabama
1989 H of F to Auburn
1992 Citrus to Georgia
1994 Citrus to Alabama
1995 Citrus to Tennessee
2000 Outback to S. Carolina
2001 Outback to S. Carolina
2007 BCSNCG to Florida
2008 BCSNCG to LSU

That covers only half the conference. I look forward to the 10th meeting, as the optimist in me says the law of averages is on our side. Michigan used to talk smack when they had their run too. Now, not so much. Crow while you can, you know your time is coming.

46

I can’t explain it to you, so I’ll let Phil Steele try. He mentioned Michigan’s injury woes as a reason for last year’s underachievement. While Henne and Hart did play against tOSU last year, both were banged up and played subpar because of it. They had a month and a half to heal up for the Florida game and they smoked us.

@48. Sure it covers 7 of the 12, but really, look at the remainders:
The Miss. schools, Arkie, Vandie and Kentucky. Not exactly paragons par excellence. That’s like saying because Northwestern has never beaten Florida, that the rest of the big televen couldn’t derive glee from UM’s inspired play this year against the Gators.

“Otherwise explain to me how Michigan beat Florida this year after being crushed by Ohio State and held to 3 points…”

Let’s see:

1. It wasn’t 36 degrees F and drizzling, which will generally increase the number of points scored by either team.
2. Michigan’s quarterback had six weeks to regain feeling in his throwing arm.
3. Michigan’s running back had six weeks to regain strength in his ankle (the unexpectedness of which seemed to cause him some difficulty in holding onto the ball, though).
4. Michigan’s entire offensive coaching staff apparently decided to throw the playbook open in the hopes of getting jobs elsewhere.
5. Florida’s entire team seemed overly confident and wrote checks with their mouths that they expected Tim Tebow and Percy Harvin to cover alone.

49 PW

How does Phil explain Michigan losing to App State AT HOME in the first game when they were all healthy.

Michigan beat Florida and it would have been worse if Yapper Hart doesn’t decide to fumble 2X handing the ball over to an otherwise defenseless UF. According to the SEC there is always an excuse if an SEC team loses, but not for other teams. I think that is why they PLAY the games.

1. - I remember that OSU team in 94; man were they loaded. How in the hell did we beat them? I can remember Dwayne Rudd, one of our LBs intercepting a pass late and returning it something like 70 yards for the TD. Bama 21 OSU 14. Great game.

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If you question me, you’re questioning Phil Steele, and you NEVAR question Phil Steele.

Besides, TAFKtOSU just asked me to explain how Michigan lost to tOSU but beat UF. I think I did that well, assuming for the purposes of the question that UF and tOSU were equal last year.

burt @ 54 = comment of the week…and its not even lunch on wednesday

1. - Masked Avenger:
   The reason why RR got a Mich. driver’s license was to show that he was no longer a WV resident. As such, his argument was that the case should be tried in federal court in WV – not in a WV circuit court due to federal diversity provisions. He would not have been able to move the case to Michigan. Apparently his attorneys thought he would be viewed more sympathetically by a jury pool not composed entirely of WVU couch burners.

Either way, it now appears to be a moot point.

It will be interesting to see which Michigan alumni pony up part of the $4M.

Best guess on alumnus putting up the money is David Brandon, CEO of Dominoes Pizza, former UM football player, and person who did not want Les Miles to be head coach (he allegedly favored former OC Mike Debord).

BTW – to the extent that anyone cares – here is UM AD Bill Martin’s statement on the buyout:

http://mgoblue.com/football/article.aspx?id=141160

What’s his beef with Les Miles?

As has become apparent to SEC fans, Les is a colorful personality. He was at Michigan for quite a while and he rubbed some, including Brandon, wrong during his stay.

What a Diva! Sheesh! Good luck Michigan! You’ll need it! Kudos to W.V.U. for not backing down even with espn doing a hack job or two on em.

UM Athletics Dept. is coughing up $2.5M so……..
Assuming RR lasts 3 years, @ 12 games/yr. – UM will pay an additional $69,444.44 per game to have RR run out on the field. Hope he’s worth it.

Tiger @40: Nope you are 100% wrong. Trash talk from Auburn fans towards tOSU has exactly the same validity as it does coming from fans of Vandy or Kentucky. If your team has not played the team in question (tOSU in this case) and has a worse recent record then you are just a fucktard for trying to glom onto the glory of conference rivals with legitimate achievements (Florida and LSU).

Crabapple Buck said it well at #37,

#64: Auburn is 32-9 over the last 5 years. tOSU is 32-8. I wouldn’t call that a much better record, especially considering AU’s record vs top 10 and top 5 vs tOSU’s record. AU also beat UF by 10 points the year they asspounded tOSU, followed by UF players reporting that there were about 6 SEC teams tougher that tOSU.

1. New AZ

Stop the pulling stats out my ass shit. In the last 5 years is convenient, since you avoid our undefeated season, but include yours. Here are the records. Last five years tOSU 52-11, Auburn 50-14. Last six years is tOSU 66-11, Auburn 59-19. You see what I did there? I used real numbers. Try that sometime, it helps your case.

Beilein’s (sp? who cares) contractual buyout was reduced because it was obvious that WVU gained a great coach upon his departure. Hence, it wasn’t a great loss.

RR first threatened to go to Kentucky, then Alabama. He got a bigger contract in part because of these threats. We now know for a fact that his lawyer also threatened the WVU administration that he was shopping “product rodriguez” to other schools last year, including UM.

Paying the full amount of the buyout is good for every D-1 school. Too bad he doesn’t have to sit out a year.

1. - I ran the conference record script on Stassen instead of the all game script by accident. Regardless, you’re talking about a couple of games and the Big 10 is a weaker conference. 03, 06,07 – the SEC all had BCS MNC titles, and the SEC should’ve had 04 as well.

The Big 2 – meh.

Last season, Kentucky BEAT LSU, LSU beat tUOS, I’ll let the purists among you take it from here.

What hurt WVU in the Beilein affair was WVU boosters approaching Bob Huggins before Beilein officially resigned. Beilein had a decent arguement about WVU breaching the contract as well.

I don’t think it should be underestimated that UMich hiring/interfering with WVU’s season by hiring Beilein with several games left in WVU’s season impacted how much vigor WVU pursued El Producto and Mich this time.