EXPECT DELAYS: WE BLOVIATING
The Index and other festivities will be somewhat delayed today due to our speaking gig at CoSIDA, the convention of sports information directors in Tampa. They want to know what blogs are, who writes them, and if hot blog groupies exist. They do, by the way–I have seen exactly six of them.
In the meantime, we have footage of the reception to my opening remarks.
May God have mercy on our soul.
9:04 a.m. We’re underway. If lanyards were feral pigs, this place would smell–they must be good for free lap dances at Mons, or free smoked mullet from Ted Peters’. Our professorial type is joining us from speakerphone from Denmark, and is booming like the voice of of the dead in the discussion. Remind self to make appearances like this from now on.
9:22 a.m. Bill Smith of Arkansas quotes Houston Nutt’s “those darn internets.” Nutt just got mentioned in the same sentence with Marshall McLuhan. We love the SEC.
9:29 a.m. “Bloggers amplify opinion.” We go to 11!
9:45 a.m. “What bloggers do we trust?” Um, me, of course.
9:56 a.m. Another watershed moment: just said the words “reality will win out in the end on the internet.” New mission statement is living to regret ever saying that.
10:08 a.m. The other guy in this discussion talking from the ceiling is awesome. It’s like having God in the room, but without having your face melted off like a Nazi.
10:13 a.m. “At the saturation point, will bloggers duke it out like in Thunderdome?” Oh, we can only hope this comes true.
10:24 a.m. Of course we’re blogging this. It’s not sneaky. We have the laptop open on the desk. It’s an intelligent, well-spoken conversation, and I’m very impressed by the discourse.
11:16 a.m. Okay, post-talk socializing concluded. No punches thrown, no Buzz Bissinger moment, and all the questions were fair, well-put, and thoughtful. But a legitimate question from the SID at a very, very large school: if we are going to have a civil relationship, what happens when you say something like “To Florida fans, [NAME REDACTED] was a liar”? Good question, and we’re not sure. The short answer is that for schools, handling blogs is probably best done with a long, well-padded stick. It’s what we would advice to anyone handling a blogger, ourselves included.









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Grimey says:
I award you no cocktails.
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:02 am
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mlmintampa says:
I’m guessing some of those SIDs haven’t seen a woman in a while, so a trip to Mons or 2001 makes sense.
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:34 am
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rjsplow says:
euphoria is an apt description of the realization that my special lady friend moved into the condominiums directly next to ted peters’ in south pasadena this past winter. i should have an exclusive booth with a velvet rope by now, what with the frequency i’ve been eating there.
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:37 am
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AllWhoYonder says:
do they know you are live blogging a panel discussion of blogging?
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:05 am
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intellidouche says:
One time I ate my neighbor’s shit- Adam Sandler
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:11 am
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Feelin' Neglected says:
Since I consider this an official “hot blog”, I’d say your personal total far exceeds six.
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:13 am
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sidatconf says:
Thanks for your insight at the conference… very enlightening… who would have known (jk). Thanks for being here… great job!
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:15 am
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Bagger Douche says:
Will the panel be addressing the ebays?
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:19 am
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spencer says:
yes we do know you are blogging right now. I think you are not very professional and should have told the group you would be blogging as you go. you are doing your blogging friends no favors. the group as a whole is growing more standoffish with bloggers.
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:20 am
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SID says:
Yes, we know you are blogging. Many of us are reading along. Also 2001 was great last night.
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:24 am
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Seven Years in Gainesville says:
#8 (spencer) –
You are correct — Mr. Hall is not very professional. However, you bring this up as a epithet, whereas I consider it a positive attribute. Mr. Hall is, by trade, some sort of international human rights lawya or something. Journalism, via blogging, is a hobby of his. Like my hobbies, poker, gambling, and trading in tickets, he does it for fun with the hope for profit. I don’t intend to speak for Orson, but as the consumer:
1. I AM ALWAYS RIGHT. My money is what matters.
2. Your approval (I assume you’re an SID or a old media type) is at best immaterial, and perhaps not even desired.
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:32 am
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suicidewatch says:
“reality will win out in the end on the internet.” – i’m gonna put that on a t shirt
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:39 am
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rjsplow says:
#8: I suppose your reaction is not particularly surprising, but I’d still like to point out the completely confusing nature of your comments. Basically, you created a comment on a blogger’s post criticizing the blogging poster’s creation of the post. So, you must have been online perusing his site whilst you’re supposedly listening to the critical discourse in front of you. Mr. Swindle’s job is to post comments such as this on his blog; he wouldn’t have been asked to attend the panel if this wasn’t the case and i have a very hard time believing that anyone would be surprised he’s blogging the event.
you, on the other hand, are simply distracting yourself. that sounds pretty unprofessional to me.
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:41 am
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Clem says:
The blogs I return to have a balance of information, humor, and good writing about subjects that interest me. I’ve become a much more avid (and well-informed) fan since I found this blog last year.
There are a lot of pointless and tedious blogs out there, but there are a lot of pointless and tedious articles in the paper, television broadcasts, books, movies, you name it. My time and my money go where I am engaged, informed, and entertained.
Bloggers blog, and that has been true at all the conferences I’ve attended in my professional field. Sometimes while they are on panels, even.
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:44 am
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yoyofutbawl says:
I bet TCOAN is hiding out at Ted Peters during all this bloviating.
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:46 am
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White Speed Recieiver says:
Swindle, if there are any SID folk from Minnesota there would you please kindly poke them with a stick until they come out of their coma?
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:53 am
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DevilGrad says:
Re #8: You don’t have to like the bloggers any more than you like the (rare) local newspaper columnist who doesn’t slurp your head coach and drink the AD’s kool-aid. But you DO have to deal with them knowledgeably and respectfully. They are increasingly a primary source information and opinion leadership for your customers and donors — and if you don’t take that into account, then I’m not exactly sure what the fuck you think your job is.
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:53 am
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Allahver Fist says:
#8, turn your fucking cell phone off.
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:58 am
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Rob says:
Ted Peters is fucking delicious.
Fucking.
Delicious.
Strangely, I’ve never had the fish there. Only the cheeseburgers.
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:59 am
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spartanmike says:
Orson, be sure to suckerpunch that dude in the red shirt. He’s taunting you.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:02 am
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PW says:
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That reminds me of when my family would pray before a meal and one of my older brothers would tell my mom “PW had his eyes open while we were praying!” Of course they were, but he couldn’t have discovered this had his not also been open. Unclean hands, I tell ya.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:07 am
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techsid says:
What, the guy from Northern Illinois? Yeah, he definitely fits the description of the one that hadn’t seen a woman in a while.
And yes, Orson, this was sent from the lobby of the Mariott just as you checked out from the hotel (free internets in the lobby, not so much upstairs). Yeah. I’m a huge nerd.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:10 am
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dudis41 says:
#8
Buzz?
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:11 am
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yoyofutbawl says:
18
With the German Potato Salad on the side.
Try the smoked mullet fish spread on whole wheat.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:40 am
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Rob says:
#23: Yeah, that potato salad rules.
It’s probably a good thing I live halfway across the country, that’s the only thing stopping me from getting Ted Peters 3x a week.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:49 am
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Coop says:
Um, #10, the guy has been hawking his Sporting News site on EDSBS since he took that, J-O-B.
Anyway, SIDs are PR guys, and we all know what their job entails.
Since their goal, to keep everything about their school in the media as positive as possible…
conflicts ensue.
But, as Devil Grad said, the blogs are not that much different than the local newspaper…
except when some blog posts a rumor, story, etc that is not true, nobody is fired and there is no accountability, if the said blogger does not feel like taking any.
Now, maybe the invisible hand of blogdom kicks said blogger to the curb eventually, maybe not.
I do not necessarily agree that blogdom is an absolute meritocracy where only the talented and capable survive.
All you need is a rabid fanbase, and people can post anything and it will get attention. Ex: Arkansas.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:58 am
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Seven Years in Gainesville says:
#25:
Quoting, because of the page break:
“Um, #10, the guy has been hawking his Sporting News site on EDSBS since he took that, J-O-B.”
#8 asserted that Mr Hall was being unprofessional. There is no doubt that he has signed a contract. You are confusing employment and professionalism.
SIDs and old media types, which I assume #8 was, cling to the professional ideals of Journalism they learned in college, as I learned them in Weimer Hall. Blogging is a new strain of journalism, just as Hunter Thompson’s gonzo journalism was. Among other things (and blogging is a LOT of things right now; history will better divide this explosion in content from the masses), it eschews the prerequisite of access (see Deadspin’s tagline) for the freedoms to comment freely, snarkily, and caustically on topics capital J Journalists won’t touch for fear of shooting oneself in the foot. With access (to source and to capital to publish) no longer inherent, neither is professionalism. The only tenet of professionalism remaining is to honor the contract — that is, Mr Hall must meet deadlines etc., and Orson must keep posting cheeseca-, umm, articles, lest his clientčle (TSN, us) abandon him .
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:41 am
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Coop says:
Point being, Spencer Hall is a journalist now, too. He quit his regular job and is now an employee of the Sporting News.
My theory being, once you start to write for a journalistic outfit, and are paid by said journalistic outfit, you are a journalist.
However, the guy never wrote anything unethical while he had a regular job and blogged as a hobby. Obviously, everything on this site is satire.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:04 pm
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kleph says:
luckily spencer passed all the certification exams all us journalists have to take to get licensed to practice our trade.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:19 pm
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ClwFlGator says:
Wow, I had never heard of Ted Peters’ until just now, and I was born and raised in the area (North county though). Definately planning on makin a stop there the next time I am down that way. Learning stuff all the time I tell ya, reading this here blog.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 pm
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Coop says:
Seriously, who eats mullet?
Why don’t you just fillet yourself up a carp or a crappie at that rate.
Wow…
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:27 pm
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PeterPumpkinhead says:
Has is occurred to anyone that post #8 was left by some smarta$$ who’s not anywhere near the conference, but was simply being funny in reply to the post asking Orson if they knew he was blogging.
Come on, I know it’s the offseason, but SNAP OUT OF IT!
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:48 pm
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yoyofutbawl says:
Coop-
Smoked mullet. If you’re ever in Tampa/St Pete, drive down to Ted Peters & you’ll taste what we’re talking about. I thought Honey Pie was nutty when she first started waxing philosophic about it too. Now I don’t.
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:22 pm
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Holly says:
Has is occurred to anyone that post #8 was left by some smarta$$ who’s not anywhere near the conference, but was simply being funny in reply to the post asking Orson if they knew he was blogging.
THANK YOU. Jesus, have we all lost a step? I know it’s July, but good grief.
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:35 pm