FULMER CUPDATE: ROOOOOOOOOOOOLL TAAAAAHDE.
The most stunning event in the history of the Fulmer Cup places Alabama at the pinnacle of offseason feloniousness. Update brought to you by Brian, who is hung like Reggie F’n Nelson and as tenacious as a Jimmy Johns pit bull.

Jimmy Johns’ monumental arrest for powdered cocaine distribution nets Alabama a mountain of points as powdery as Breckenridge in February and just as immovable. Before any points are awarded, bear this in mind: while Johns may be eligible for the Ellis T. Jones III for individual achievement, the points may not be discarded as “just one guy” thanks to Alabama already having several offenses on the board. The judgment is that Alabama keeps the points, and there will be no debate, because this is not democracy. (Those who object will not be waterboarded, but rather “aqua-cuddled.” It’s not torture if you have a good word for it!)
The tally, as assembled from Johns’ weighty entry at the Tuscaloosa County Jail:
Five counts of unlawful distribution of a controlled substance times three points each= Fifteen points
One count possession of powdered cocaine: three points
Two unreported traffic citations= two points
The final tally: TWENTY POINTS, a score deserving of all-caps hyperbole, except that it isn’t hyperbole if you even come close to halving Ellis T. Jones 13 felony charges (somewhere around a forty point score by itself without any bonus points. Quantifying his achievement almost demeans its greatness.)
Alabama now sits proudly with an oxygen bottle on an Everest of points: 28. The prayer flags flapping in the breeze, the Himalaya all around you…it would be beautiful if we were talking about mountain climbing, and not a college linebacker caught selling blow in an undercover sting operation.
One point not to be forgotten is that if you sell to one person five times, the actual number of transactions Johns made with customers was likely larger. No one sells coke experimentally or on a lark, especially when you’re diligent enough to make five sales in a row. Johns seemed to be pretty serious about this, and to imagine some of his teammates did not know he sold yayo from his apartment is insanity.
There’s a fine line between dumping off a few grams for a friend for extra cash and being a responsible, diligent, and responsive coca dealer. And yes, that’s an abominable pun we shouldn’t have even sniffed at. Sniff! Cocaine is funny! Except when it destroys your family and eats your house, car, and septum!
In addition to this, a website suggests Jimmy Johns may have been selling pit bulls using his name, something Will points out is a possible violation of NCAA rules. For all we know the site may be a mockup for a class, since there’s only an email address and no phone contact. Further digging required, but further proof all football fans in the state of Alabama sleep with a bible on one nightstand and a copy of the NCAA rules and regs on the other.
One final note on this: Johns allegedly had tabs of Ecstasy on him, too, but it pops up nowhere on the charges, meaning so many charges are in play here that adding the E onto the tally is considered overkill even by the prosecutors here. We follow their guidance and stick to the arrest record for points, and award no style points because, really, some things speak well enough for themselves on their own.
In what would be big news any other week, Washington State picks up a three point adjustment for this unreported (or totally missed, perhaps) incident from February, which eventually resulted in a series of misdemeanor pleas:
Andy Mattingly, a linebacker coming off an outstanding sophomore season, was in Spokane in late January when a friend called for help. His front teeth had just been punched out in an argument with some soccer players from North Idaho College, he said.
The friend joined up with Mattingly and Trevor Mooney, a WSU tight end. The three went to Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, where two of the soccer players, a goalie and a midfielder, shared an apartment.
First, they knocked. Then, Mattingly kicked in the door. The midfielder grabbed a steak knife, the goalie a butter knife. Mattingly picked up a frying pan off the stove.
The midfielder jumped out a window. This left the goalie — Cesar Lira, 5 feet 10, armed with a butter knife — to contend with Mattingly, a 6-4 linebacker swinging heavy kitchenware.
Mattingly hit Lira’s head so hard the pan’s handle broke, court records say. Lira got back up, jumped out a window and called police. He had a 2-inch gash and was “bleeding profusely,” a police report says.
When police arrested Mattingly and Mooney, Mooney was so drunk he vomited while being booked.
Frying pans are the new kettlebells!









1
Cincy's Dad says:
“Breckinridge”? Maybe you mean “Breckenridge?” Yup, I’m an ass.
June 25th, 2008 at 9:55 am
2
Doug says:
Can’t wait for the Bama T-shirts that say “Got 28?”
June 25th, 2008 at 9:57 am
3
Kenny says:
Damn it!
June 25th, 2008 at 9:59 am
4
John says:
“The most stunning event in the history of the Fulmer Cup”? Orson, you are the master of hyperbole.
The Delaware armed home invasion? Points wise, Johns might be bigger, but I stil consider that far more shocking.
Ellis T. Jones? No further questions, your Honor.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:00 am
5
blon57 says:
Saban should be proud of Jimmy Johns. Another title coming his way.
A Barry Switzer reference anyone?
June 25th, 2008 at 10:00 am
6
Orson Swindle says:
John: we blog for a reason!
June 25th, 2008 at 10:04 am
7
john says:
2 more and all that “got 12?” gear sold at Wal-Mart will take on a whole new meaning.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:05 am
8
John says:
BTW,
Your hyperbole aside, this post needed a fucking siren.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:05 am
9
Oops Pow Surprise says:
Blow 2: Depp Wears Blackface
June 25th, 2008 at 10:06 am
10
socalbryan says:
Rooooooll Tide! The Bear would be proud.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:10 am
11
jakldawg says:
With the pic of Jimmy Johns (you know me, I’m your friend, your main boy, thick and thin) up top and Big Red in the index, consider my morning made.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:11 am
12
BamaCPA says:
Maybe we weren’t clear enough with Nick about the type of championship we expected.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:11 am
13
haybeav says:
I bet now he wishes that he would have been delievering sandwiches instead of snow.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:12 am
14
gerry dorsey says:
mike AND marcus vick are impressed by jj’s entrepreneurial spirit.
where can i get a full size version of jimmy “tony montana” johns???
June 25th, 2008 at 10:14 am
15
CincySooner says:
Not to be a sticker, but UCF is missing a piddly tampering-with-fire-supression-system charge
(stickle!! stickle!! stickle!!)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/ncaa/06/23/ucf.kay.ap/index.html
(stickle!! stickle!! stickle!!)
June 25th, 2008 at 10:14 am
16
Etch Westgrin says:
Damn.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:15 am
17
The Snake will Drive Again! says:
I’m seeing a future LSUFreek episode involving JJ and Al Pacino.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:16 am
18
Hannibal Montegna says:
Selling blow may be worse than breaking into someone’s apartment and hitting them with a frying pan, but more than SIX TIMES worse? Breaking and entering, plus assault, plus bonus points for use of an unusual weapon, soccer players jumping out windows and vomiting at the police station…Wazzu should be docked more than three points.
The real question is, if the soccer guys obviously couldn’t handle a much bigger guy capable of breaking their door down, how did they manage to knock Mattingly’s teeth out in the first place?
June 25th, 2008 at 10:18 am
19
John says:
I wanna see Jimmy Johns push Nick Saban out of the helicopter.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:18 am
20
Chizad says:
Hey, they stole my Tony Montana photoshop job!
http://tigersx.net/forum/index.php?topic=1792.msg21394
June 25th, 2008 at 10:18 am
21
CincySooner says:
“Cesar Lira, 5 feet 10, armed with a butter knife”
SAY ‘ELLO TO MAH LIL’ FRIEN’!!!
June 25th, 2008 at 10:19 am
22
CincySooner says:
#20
Ah dammit, dammit, dammit,
beaten to the punch again
June 25th, 2008 at 10:20 am
23
Kilgore Trout says:
“For all we know the site may be a mockup for a class, since there’s only an email address and no phone contact.”
Can’t find which story I read this in, but it should be somewhere on al.com in one of those papers’ sports section, but one writer said he found an endorsement from Johns on another pit breeders’ Web page, so it seems Johns actually was involved in the business. Also I don’t know why you’d actually buy a domain for a class mockup but I ain’t loaded with yayo money. PAROLE TIDE!
June 25th, 2008 at 10:21 am
24
Tony the Tiger says:
“Cocaine is a hell of a drug.”
June 25th, 2008 at 10:25 am
25
Boardmaster Brian says:
Chizad, I made my own version. But yours was more complete — I didn’t bother to re-tint the hands or spread blow across JJ’s face.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:25 am
26
UgasTexan says:
Hmm… those are some nice looking bullies. I wonder why the “Jimmy John’s News” linky isn’t working? Maybe I’ll email him to find out.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:32 am
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Saban'sHairDye says:
Tusacloosa’s campus/entire town is basically a cocaine distribution center … and has been since before the mid-80s.
This is not surprising and all part of The Process, a’ight?
June 25th, 2008 at 10:32 am
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WarCardinals says:
Cesar Lira must be a BAMF. He gets hit in the head by a frying pan so hard that the handle breaks off, and only sustains a two-inch gash and still has the state of mind to get the fuck out of there? Kudos to you, my Latino friend, although why would you pick up a butter knife?
June 25th, 2008 at 10:34 am
29
Ryno says:
Christmas came early for Holly.
How will Cybertide respond?
June 25th, 2008 at 10:35 am
30
OhioDawg says:
Just wait ’til the #1 recruiting class becomes eligible to help with the Fulmer Cup. Look out world!
June 25th, 2008 at 10:35 am
31
Kenny Stabler says:
@ 24
CHARLIE MUR-PHEEEEE!!!
June 25th, 2008 at 10:35 am
32
Penn State Fan says:
Dear Michigan Homer MGoBrian,
Where did the additional 3 Penn State points come from? They were at 14 (6 points for Quarless’ two DUIs, 8 points for Chris Bell’s knife-pulling stunt).
Sincerely,
Penn State Fan
June 25th, 2008 at 10:35 am
33
Mitch Cumstein says:
Just like a soccer player to bring a butter knife to a frying pan fight.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:35 am
34
blon57 says:
#12
It is good to have a well-rounded program. Alabama is excelling on so many levels.
The Big 12 (South) isn’t keeping pace with the SEC. We need to step up.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:36 am
35
CincySooner says:
#33
The Big XII is relying on the North to carry the conference in the FC this year.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:39 am
36
Downtown Plainsman says:
Orson,
Do you think it may be time to join Finescum in radioland to, umm, like award ‘bama with #14.5?!?!?!!!
June 25th, 2008 at 10:39 am
37
Tommy says:
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, Bama winning an award name for Phil Fulmer … mass hysteria!
June 25th, 2008 at 10:41 am
38
MorningBeer says:
@17
Universal Studios just contacted LSUFreek. It’s just that big…
June 25th, 2008 at 10:44 am
39
blon57 says:
#35
I know, but gosh, seems like we should be in there, too. It is a strange year when Texas and OU aren’t in on the tally.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:45 am
40
Patrick says:
See Brian? Saban was wise to sign all those recruits. You never know when the coke ring will blow up and you need more bodies.
By the way, how come he didn’t have any ESS EEE CEE speed?
June 25th, 2008 at 10:45 am
41
paco says:
Wf’nVU thanks you Jimmy Johns. Assuredly a couch will be burned in your honor. And maybe a recliner, too.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:47 am
42
psuphiman80 says:
Now I know PSU isn’t a bunch of angels but I don’t think we deserve three points for existing.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:48 am
43
Blooow Tide!!! says:
I see Bama is well on it’s way to National Championship #13.
Rammer Jammer, Yellow Hammer, 10 to 20 in the Slammer!!!
June 25th, 2008 at 10:54 am
44
PeterPumpkinhead says:
And think, Croom was this close to convincing Johns to play at MSU… think he feels better about losing him to Shula now?
June 25th, 2008 at 10:58 am
45
DC Domer says:
@18
Just to clarify, it was Mattingly’s friend that got his teeth knocked out, not Mattingly or his fellow WSU player. But I do share the general sentiment. When the guy with the steak knife jumps out the window and a linebacker is left taking on a 5′10 butter knife-armed goalie, a frying pan shouldn’t be necessary.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:02 am
46
Theskipster says:
3 points would make Washington State have 17 points for 4th place
June 25th, 2008 at 11:03 am
47
Crabapple Buck says:
All six BCS conferences are represented in the top 6. Once again though, the SEC dominates. I always knew Alabama would perform better in the second half this year. I just wasn’t sure it would be in football or FC. Mizzou better step it up soon, since once practice starts, time for malfeasance is limited. There is nothing like summer. Warm weather and time to burn=Fulmer Cup points explosion.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:03 am
48
Brandon says:
According to the TPD the possession of a controlled substance charge is what the ecstasy was for. So please no more points.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:03 am
49
Flibbetigibbet says:
#33: Awesome.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:05 am
50
Chips O'Toole says:
Sounds like Mr. Johns is living his own personal episode of “When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong”
June 25th, 2008 at 11:06 am
51
pz says:
According to the last update I can find, WSU didn’t even get their full 3 pts credit (and I agree that the story sounds like it is worthy of at least 4), and that PSU did somehow pick up an additional 3 without merit.
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/06/10/fulmer-cupdate-eer-closer-to-the-lead/
June 25th, 2008 at 11:07 am
52
Out of Conference says:
#19 – I want to see Jimmy Johns wake up with TAFKAOSU’s head in his bed…. oh wait, wrong movie.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:12 am
53
hailstate says:
Speaking of Jimmy Johns:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n1Nb7l3DSqU
June 25th, 2008 at 11:13 am
54
dawgaddict says:
http://www.mastinspitbulls.com/
the site where another breeder denounces their sale of breeding dogs to JJ…
paRoll Tide!
June 25th, 2008 at 11:18 am
55
PeterPumpkinhead says:
In all seriousness, EVERY major university (and lots of smaller ones… I’m looking at you Troy State) is a Cocaine Distribution Center… and a Weed Distribution Center… and an X Distribution Center.
Feel free to bury your head in the sand about it, especially if you have college age kids, but it’s all over the place. And for athletes it doesn’t stop in college… steroids really ought to be the least of the NFL’s worries. If you’re a Miami Dolphin and you’re not doing Blow, you’re not getting any love from your teammates. Period.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:19 am
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dawgaddict says:
and the ever popular MySpace trail….
notice the quote at the top: “Mastins Pitbulls Wonders WTF some people are thinking!!!? ”
lol
June 25th, 2008 at 11:23 am
57
dawgaddict says:
whoops: http://www.myspace.com/mastinspitbulls
June 25th, 2008 at 11:24 am
58
Beezer says:
Bama sure is “relevant” again!
War Eagle.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:26 am
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gerry dorsey says:
peterpumpkinhead @ 55 is exactly right.
however, to echo saban’s hair dye @ 27, tuscaloosa is likely worse than most. i’m now 29 and can’t recall ever seeing the powder anywhere outside of t’town…and i live in dallas.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:26 am
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Flibbetigibbet says:
Here’s an update from (snicker) “The Rap Sheet.” JJ’s Pitbulls is not a class project:
http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2008/06/jimmy_johns_life_as_an_entrepr.html
June 25th, 2008 at 11:27 am
61
Chizad says:
Crabapple Buck:
Please do not lump Bama as a representation of the SEC.
That goes for on the field as well.
They are the chemically imbalanced cokehead uncle in an otherwise successful and proud family.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:29 am
62
blon57 says:
#54 & #57
Every reputable breeder sells to college students. Right…
June 25th, 2008 at 11:33 am
63
blon57 says:
#59
Are you saying there is no cocaine in Dallas? Are you kidding?
June 25th, 2008 at 11:45 am
64
chuy says:
63-
Maybe he’s never been to Plano…and he definitely doesn’t hang out with any SMU alums….
June 25th, 2008 at 11:53 am
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dawgaddict says:
@62
i just report the facts, like a real reporter….lol
and in T-town, perhaps it is seen as a good business venture to sponsor a college athlete-breeder…there’s no blessing like that of the Crimson Tide, etc.
…or perhaps you are Roll Tarded and didn’t notice that this story is funny, and the student athlete caught selling coke lives in Tuscaloosa, not Dallas.
June 25th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
66
blon57 says:
#64
I’ll second that.
June 25th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
67
blon57 says:
#65
I was being sarcastic. It just doesn’t come across when I write.
Reputable breeders do home visits and background checks before selling to individuals, plus they have extreme contracts on stud/breeding rights. The legitimate dog world is one of moneyed interests and they are very select about who is in and who isn’t. My point was that (obviously) these are not reputable breeders, but trailer-park types who sell dogs to anyone.
As to reference #59, this guy probably doesn’t get out much in Dallas. Coke is rampant in most college towns, and especially in Dallas, where students probably have an abundant monthly allowance from their parents and a lot of free time.
June 25th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
68
Dumpster Baby says:
So now that JJ is gone Who’s carrying the “rock” next year for the Tide?
June 25th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
69
Florida Boy says:
@68
John Parker Wilson
June 25th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
70
Steve says:
Chizad,
You of all people should know that LSU has many skeletons in its closet. You don’t have to look hard to find a bunch of coonass, corndog smelling fools that root drunkenly for the Tigers. Just because you guys have had some success in the last 6 years doesn’t mean you have the right to be elitist snobs and act like your shit don’t stink. One doesn’t have to look any farther than how they handled the sixty million dollar man to see that.
At least Saban booted Johns sorry ass off the team immediately, instead of testing the waters (several times) and doing everything short of sacrificing a virgin to keep Perilloux on the team.
June 25th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
71
EmotionalFescue says:
It truly sucks that the ‘Things Crimson and White People Like’ post came out within the past week or so. This event could have made it so much sweeter. Tooting own horn here, but a few posters including myself, asked about the omission of the ‘white bag’ from the list. As ironic as rain on your wedding day. Wait, that’s not ironic at all unless the bride and groom were named Sunny Aldeetime and Notta Kloudendeesky. Or the couple getting married were the capsules you dropped into water that turned into foam dinosaurs. ”I didn’t know you were a velociraptor, honey.”
June 25th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
72
john says:
#70, nice spin. sebear kicked him off the team AFTER he had been kicked out of school…not to mention he’s facing 15 years MANDATORY. He’s a joke of a disciplinarian.
June 25th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
73
gerry dorsey says:
obviously there is coke in dallas…its the douchey yuppie capital of america. my point wasn’t that there isn’t coke in dallas, but that there is a great deal of it in t’town.
and no…i don’t hang out with any smu alums…please refer to first sentence for reason.
June 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
74
John says:
70,
Sneaking into a casino is par for the course in the Great State of Louisiana.
June 25th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
75
NewAZTiger says:
My New Favorite Fark. Eat your heart out, LSUFreek.
June 25th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
76
TAFKastOSUB says:
Second. Best. Day. Ever.
The best day ever is reserved for the day the NCAA finally realizes they made a huge mistake by not shutting Alabama down back during the Albert Means case and makes right on their mistake and finally shuts Alabama completely down.
June 25th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
77
matt says:
based on his website, at least we know jimmy can read and write… the same can’t be said for Tray Blackmon, Carnell Williams, Bo, etc, etc…
June 25th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
78
WALLACE says:
oh, the aubs r so excited they may sh_t their overalls!
June 25th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
79
phil says:
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer bunch of turds…
June 25th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
80
TAFKastOSUB says:
#70 With Johns under arrest and out on bond for a shit load of drug related charges, should we really be praising Nick Saban for his speedy dismissal of Johns??? What choice did he have…the University expelled him immediately…kind of hard to stay on the football team when the school kicks you out.
June 25th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
81
Just wondering says:
<>
That may be true, but for his sake, let’s hope he can hold on to the soap, unlike the football.
June 25th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
82
COB says:
#33 +1
#75 +2
Also a big backer of #72, yes quite the mans man to kick a player off the team who is facing a triple nickle in the state pen…what a ball buster! Geez can a guy catch a break? Slang some ‘cane, raise some pits, the man is trying to LIVE son! Economy is rough!
June 25th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
83
NewAZTiger says:
Remember how Spurrier cleaned-house when he started at USC? That’s what disciplinarians do.
Saban basically didn’t clean house, thus he kept all the bad apples. Great coach, great disciplinarian.
The Process is the method in which the Tuscaloosa Police Department cleans up the Bama football team under Saban’s watch. They all get Processed.
June 25th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
84
kt says:
My Bama friends are going to pissed about winning this championship. Not so much because it is awarded to criminals, more so because it is named after Fulmer. I see them burying this one deep in the trophy case…
June 25th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
85
Tater Salad says:
Not that it makes much difference, but I believe he was suspended from the University, not expelled. I’m sure that will come soon enough, though, if it hasn’t already.
June 25th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
86
jwoolf1 says:
#27 – “Tusacloosa’s campus/entire town is basically a cocaine distribution center … and has been since before the mid-80s.”
We are shocked and appalled — HARRUMPH, by gravy — by this information, and hope the local constabulary will take stern measures. Tut-tut and good day.
Signed,
America’s Food Service and Finance Industries, Most Politicians, the Last Two US Presidents, 3/4ths of the bands you like, and All Fraternity Members.
June 25th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
87
Holly says:
SEC
speedcoke! Take that, Big 12!June 25th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
88
blon57 says:
#87
Holly,
We’ll do our best to try to match the SEC, but I can’t make any promises. Y’all have so much talent.
OU care to weigh in on this one?
June 25th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
89
UFJim says:
Wow,
I can just imagine that little puke goalie wielding a butter knife in a fight.
seriously, it is a testament to the power of jimmy johns (subs), that his crimes are so massive, even great fulmer updates look puny by comparison
June 25th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
90
chuy says:
#86 nails it…
June 25th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
91
jegtar says:
76- You are starting to sound like the “bad guy” in some shitty movie. Do rub your hands together and grin when you say that shit out loud?
June 25th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
92
NewAZTiger says:
So Much Fun, So Little Time.
June 25th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
93
Wayne says:
This site seems to be using the same scoring system as you, and it appears that they may have information you’re lacking (see: Washington St., Nebraska)
http://www.sportsargumentwiki.com/index.php?title=Fulmer_Cup
June 25th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
94
blon57 says:
#92
Is that your own creation? Well done.
June 25th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
95
Kenny says:
We should all chip in and help O buy a legit Fulmer Cup trophy so that we can have presentation day to the champions of infamy and mark the opening of the season.
June 25th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
96
NewAZTiger says:
#93, I made it, but I was just visually executing a fun post I saw.
June 25th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
97
DevilGrad says:
When does the new Drive-By Truckers song about this come out?
June 25th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
98
TIGERinATL says:
#92 is excellent.
“Coach _______” was an especially nice touch.
And all the guys trotting out the “every school does it” excuse should be quite proud of holding up yet another long lived bama tradition.
June 25th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
99
briandtw says:
I wish the Fulmer Cup had been around when my alma mater (Central Michigan) had six players kicked off the team for murdering a guy.
June 25th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
100
Steve says:
Gotta love the hate.
If Saban went in and kicked half the players off the team, he would have been crucified by you same assholes because he was trying to make room for players that fit in “his system”. He keeps the bad apples, and he’s a crook that is just interested in winning football.
I’ll remember that when the next school fucks up and remind them that their coach didn’t get rid of “insert player name here” before the press got ahold of the story. You know, because Saban is apparently omnipotent. He knows exactly what 100 kids are doing at all times, day and night, especially in the off season, when he can’t spend any time with the kids for any sort of organized activities.
I hope all of you catch some kind of fire-piss STD’s and die of a pus-filled dick explosion.
June 25th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
101
jwoolf1 says:
#98 (TigerinATL) — you do mean, bama tradition, right? In the storied tradition of AU’s Robert Baker (convicted of toot trafficking, ‘98)? I wonder if, as is the tradition, Baker grew a gnarly pirate beard before going to jail.
Undercover cop: “Hey Jimmy, what’s in your trunk?”
Pirate Jimmy Johns: “NARRRRRRRRcotics!”
We’ve all got skeletons in our locker rooms, even in the lurrvliest village. (Unfortunately, ‘Bama may have to dress one at linebacker this year.)
June 25th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
102
jwoolf1 says:
(should read: “you do mean, [state of Ala]bama tradition, right?” Stupid punctuation web typifying)
June 25th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
103
droll tide says:
Damn you, Saban. Why didn’t you kick everyone off the team last year and replace them with boy scouts and little American flags? Fucking America-hating asshole. Like you knew this wasn’t coming. The least you could’ve done is use some of your 4 billion dollar salary to have cameras installed in every player’s apartment and hire private investigators to spy on them 24/7. Is that asking so much, you greedy fuck? Yeah, apparently so. And now that I think about it, why DIDN’T you retroactively recruit Shula’s guys for him when you had the chance? No answer for that one, huh smart guy? No, this just doesn’t add up AT ALL! Fucking dick. If one thing is clear, the [insert clever pun here] Tide is out of control, Saban is actively supporting domestic terrorism, and I thank God that so far today none of the players on my favorite team have yet to steal the spotlight from Jimmy Johns and Alabama with their own boneheaded behavior … or have they?????
*hits refresh on ESPN’s college football home page repeatedly and then chuckles to self while twirling imaginary villain’s mustache*
June 25th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
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crimson daddy says:
#76
I’m guessing your best day was just the other day when you learned that Comcast was indeed running cable to your trailer park.
As far as Saban not cleaning house when he arrived, you all know good and well that if he had kicked some players off right when he arrived, you’d be on here talking about what a heartless bastard the guy is….. Oh wait, you’d do that in any circumstance.
June 25th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
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sullivan013 says:
Wow. How could a coach of a major university be expected to catch an illegal drug dealing dog-breeder on his team when he had virtually no time (18 months) to evaluate his program, it’s players, his staff and institute a program to turn the team around?
I mean, you’d have to pay him millions of $$s before you could expect him to do that, right?
Or is that ‘aight?
June 25th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
106
Brian O'Blivion says:
Any single occurrence of 20 FC points or more at least needs the Fulmer Cup song posted.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
107
Brian O'Blivion says:
Found it. Here you go.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
108
NewAZTiger says:
#100 and #104
Scenario: HC winning coach returns to SEC at second SEC school following coach that recruited questionable characters .
Spurrier cleaned house and took his licks. His program is much cleaner and USC isn’t leading the FC.
Saban came in, same situation, and didn’t clean house. He still posted a crappy record and now he’s got a 1.3 arrest/win ratio. You could always look at it this way – he only paid $400,000 per arrest.
Saban chose to keep the bad apples. Spurrier didn’t. By not kicking off the crap, Saban effectively re-recruited bad apples to the program. That’s not even counting the armed robber Saint Nick brought to campus.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
109
NewAZTiger says:
Damn my math, it’s 1.42 arrests/win. I bet Saban is leading the nation in that category.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
110
TAFKastOSUB says:
I’m asking for Bonus points…it is coming out now that Johns made one of the sales in the parking lot of the University of Alabama Athletic Complex.
Got to be worth 1 extra point.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
111
Sad State of Affairs says:
108 –
You’re so full of shit. How could Saban have done anymore? JJ was in Saban’s doghouse for different things that Saban was aware of (missing class, workouts, etc.), and Saban gave the kid punishments and kept him from playing.
However, Saban had no idea that JJ was involved in this kind of thing and the TPD even said that no one on the team knew about it. If he’s seemingly taking care of a kid and his problems (JJ went from being a “bad apple” to winning an award in the spring for his turnaround), and then gets railroaded by this, what else could he have done? He immediately dismissed him from the team (whether or not he had a choice on the matter, he still did it right away and didn’t delay by saying “Let’s wait to see what happened 1st”), but what else could he have done?
June 25th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
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NewAZTiger says:
#111
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
Jimmy Johns went to great lengths to hide his coke dealing from his teammates.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
113
Out of Conference says:
New AZTiger – thanks very much for the Spurrier at South Carolina thumbs up. I cringe to think about what Holtz’s arrest to win ratio would have been during his stint here.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
114
DevilGrad says:
Nobody circles the wagons quite like ‘Bama fans, but it’s a damn shame that we can’t convince more of ‘em to point the guns in.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
115
NewAZTiger says:
Yea, Alabama! Book ‘em Tide!
Every ‘Bama man’s behind you;
Hit your stride!
Go teach the Cokeheads to crave,
Send the Yellow Jackets to an overdose grave!
And if a man starts to weaken,
That’s a shame!
For ‘Bama’s coke and X
Have writ her name in crimson flame!
Snort on, Snort on, Snort on, men!
Remember the Longest Yard we’ll win then!
Go, roll to victory,
Hit your stride,
You’re Dixie’s dealing pride, Crimson Tide!
June 25th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
116
the croominator says:
#101 jwoolf1…I just had to stiffle laughter from my office mate…I’m a sucker for bad pirate jokes…
As a former library student at UA, I can vouch for having never, EVER seen the powdered stuff, unless you count the dust in the stacks at Gorgas Library. Though for that matter I never saw any student athletes in there either.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
117
TIGERinATL says:
jwoolf1 @ 101
The bama tradition I was referring to was the “everybody else does it too” defense. You guys should go ahead and copywrite that one.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
118
TIGERinATL says:
*copyright*
damn.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
119
Steve says:
You should have read your own link, there, Tiger. Then you would have seen where Saban dismissed the kid TWO HOURS after he was arrested.
And you know, the reason he kept him around was because Johns was such an integral part of the team last year. I mean, he gained at least one thous… wait, he had 20 tack… no, I mean he threw for over one… well shit, what did he do last year?
JACK SHIT. The kid was sitting the sidelines almost every game. He was already in the dog house, you don’t think Saban would have kicked the kid off of the team so fast you would have been complaining about jumping the gun.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
120
blon57 says:
#115
NewAZTiger ,
Yours, as well?
June 25th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
121
TIGERinATL says:
Nick Saban is a strong disciplinarian. I mean he suspended DJ Hall for a whole HALF of the ULM game last year. Way harsh, Ty.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
122
NewAZTiger says:
#120 – yeah. I flow like Shaq on the mic.
Paul Finebaum is reporting that Nick Saban couldn’t see over all the compact cars in the parking lot to see the deals going down.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
123
blon57 says:
#122
I am astounded by your creativity.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
124
NewAZTiger says:
Saban dismissed the kid AFTER he was kicked outta school.
Speaking of the Dog House – Jimmy Johns was involved in that. JimmyJohnsPitBulls.com has been pulled.
He was however, so deep in the doghouse that he got this after Spring Practice.
2008 WOODROW LOWE LINEBACKER AWARD: Jimmy Johns (LB)
June 25th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
125
NewAZTiger says:
#123: Yeah. Kobe knows not to piss me off.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
126
Downtown Plainsman says:
#122
BWAHHAHAHA!!! God I hate those two men (finescum>saban), but that was a priceless image…
Thanks for sharing!
June 25th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
127
droll tide says:
NewAZTiger is the guy who blogs incessantly about how much he hates his ex-girlfriend and is SO over her. Seriously, with your rapier wit and come-hither posts, everyone knows you got dames on standby. So, screw her … and Bama … stupid cheating on me with my roommate Bama. FUCK YOU SABAN!!!
June 25th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
128
J & D Lindsey says:
Yep, the OBC sure did clean house and get rid of the bad apples from the get-go.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
129
B'ham Gator says:
Style points – The sales at his apartment were in proximity to an elementary school!
June 25th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
130
WarCardinals says:
100 -
“You know, because Saban is apparently omnipotent.”
If you poll 100 Alabama fans I’d bet you’d find at least 20 who actually think he is.
June 25th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
131
dawgaddict says:
if you poll 100 Bama fans half would fail….zing
June 25th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
132
NewAZTiger says:
#127: It’s like you’re reading my mail.
From 1997.
Can I come out of my mom’s basement now?
June 25th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
133
alanon says:
well over 100 comments on this one. perhaps cocaine should be the topic of every post which could boost your ad space revenue ten fold
June 25th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
134
DevilGrad says:
100 -
“You know, because Saban is apparently omnipotent.”
If you poll 100 Alabama fans I’d bet you’d find at least 20 who actually think he is.
And another solid dozen who’d be pissed off that people were suggesting their coach might need Viagra.
June 25th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
135
lol says:
could have been worse, could have been cutting lines using a dead girl’s credit card.
June 25th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
136
Jen says:
I’m trying to figure out what my Nittany Lions did to jump from 14 to 17 points this week. What gives?
June 25th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
137
Jen says:
follow up – according to SAS wiki, Washington St. has 17 and PSU is still at 14.
June 25th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
138
dixiehack says:
All credit to Coach Saban. Everybody knows we couldn’t pull off any kind of fourth quarter comeback like this with Shula.
June 25th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
139
Stephen Garcia says:
Spurrier sure did clean up that program…
It sucks about Jimmy Johns, as well as our drug cartel that has finally been caught to stop supplying white frat kids the drugs they need.
June 25th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
140
Three Days of Orange says:
Very, very funny.
I know who’s laughing … Fulmer! Ah the irony!
The only thing funnier than the AU fans’ glee is the white-red (intended) responses of the Bama folks reading them. I especially like the personal attacks.
Stay classy Alabama!
Oh yeah? Well … well … well – your momma’s ugly and you’re stupid!
Classic!
June 25th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
141
James Turner says:
You messed up, the two traffic tickets are from a couple years ago and were not part of these charges. They were just listed as the only other offenses on his record. That will however not help him much. Do you add all the charges of all the other players or is Alabama just special. Thanks for the ranking but hopefully the next time we end up Number 1 will be 13 not a 20 or 28….
June 25th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
142
Mr Pelican Pants says:
Well…..at least Jax State will have another ex-con to add to the roster, or is that South Florida?
Honestly kids, your blind if you think your program is clean….seriously, if the NCAA called every team from the SEC/ Big 10/ Big 12 back in to piss test/blood test RIGHT NOW, TODAY and check for narcotics, pain pills, steroids or any other controlled/banned substance, what do you think would happen?To the starters? Hell the 3rd stringers would be more than guilty…… Weed has always been the drug of choice for most of the D-1 football players I know whether it be Alabama or Auburn….Hell I’ve been at Leon Letts parties years before he got popped, hung out with Ralph Staten/ Sherman Williams in T-town and trust me, they never got tested til they pushed the envelope too far….getting too brave… Jimmy Johns is the only one to blame–his ego and in his mind, his status as an Alabama ball player made him think he was untouchable……hell most players I knew only sobered up or “cleaned” up right before August …..
A famous all time winniest high school coach told me
“if your gonna win State Titles on the 6A level, your gonna have to have your fair share of ’straight out of the hood bone thugs’ to even get close. Most of the states highly recruited talent comes out of the slums of Prichard or cross the tracks in downtown Mobile/Birmingham…….you give em a little and they always are gonna want more…….hell its no secret half the team was stoned off their asses before the ULM game, DJ Hall included….Well now, the whole team will have HELL to pay, especially the guys who are still on the team that either knew about it or participated in it, and heads will roll and slots will come open……according to plan.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:42 am
143
blon57 says:
OU has the possibility of being on the Big Board soon?
http://www.kfsm.com/Global/story.asp?S=8557113&nav=menu151_4
June 26th, 2008 at 7:18 am
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TIGERinATL says:
“hell its no secret half the team was stoned off their asses before the ULM game, DJ Hall included….Well now, the whole team will have HELL to pay, especially the guys who are still on the team that either knew about it or participated in it, and heads will roll and slots will come open……according to plan”
Laugh out loud funny, there Mr. P.P. You skillfully managed to turn your “everyone else does it too” argument into an even better excuse for getting War Hawked. And now the same coach who lifted Hall’s HC game suspension when the chips were down (vs. ULM of all teams) is going to flex his disciplinarian muscles on those punks?
Bravo on such a very Shane-worthy performance, my friend! RTR indeed!
June 26th, 2008 at 7:41 am
145
Chizad says:
Thoughts on the Pitbull ring…
http://www.tigersx.net/
June 26th, 2008 at 7:56 am
146
Mr Pelican Pants says:
Everyone knows Jimmy Johns was heavily involved with Avon, Amway, and SMC products, somewhere, he took a wrong turn whilst going car door to car door…..
June 26th, 2008 at 8:57 am
147
willet says:
I just mentioned this to a Bammer daywalker in my office, quote “saban don’t put up with that shit he’s gone and all he did was play special tems last year”
Standard response
June 26th, 2008 at 9:57 am
148
NewAZTiger says:
#138 There’s the spirit!
Do you know why Jimmy Johns was switched to Defense this year?
Because Nick Saban knew he could deliver the Blow.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:28 am
149
slammer says:
I give, I just hope we have team to field this fall.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
150
Excuse me Stewardess, but I speak jive says:
isn’t it a shame when the boosters and athletic departments don’ t pay their players enough and they have to resort to selling drugs to make ends meet?
sad…
June 26th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
151
ClwFlGator says:
#133 – It has less to do with “cocaine”, and more to do with the words “‘Bama”, “Saban”, etc. Any mentioning of the latter in any (especially negative) context is an almost guaranteed 100+ comments from the flame war that is certain to erupt between the detractors and apologists of said institution and coach.
June 26th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
152
Mr Pelican Pants says:
Well let the jokes begin….
Parole Tide.
Criminal Tide.
Rammer Jammer Yella Hammer Half our team is in the Slammer.
Blow Tide Blow….with an off season like this and a Fulmer Cup within reach, we should win on the field…..if we can keep the team from trying to snort the field lines……..
June 26th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
153
Chizad says:
Interesting Logic Mr. Pelican Pants…
June 27th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
154
pasta troy says:
Bigger problem in this situation: T-town is down a cocaine dealer. The city is in a panic. It would be like if Baton Rouge ran out of Corndogs
June 27th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
155
Mark says:
This young entrepreneur was just trying to earn a return on his “host family” gratuities…
June 28th, 2008 at 9:05 am
156
Tom says:
If this holds up, expect the bammers to claim another national championship.
June 28th, 2008 at 9:46 am
157
jack smitherman says:
well, its funny to laught at the tide but what a ass kicking we gave ya’ll phil fulmer stupid fans . eat your donuts and point fingers untill sadan runs him out of town .roll tide roll
June 30th, 2008 at 2:20 am
158
kleph says:
because we all know that in tuscaloosa drug lingo “take me to the baskin-robbins in mcfarland mall” is slang for “give me an injection of something pretty darned dangerous.”
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:30 pm