FULMER CUPDATE: ROOOOOOOOOOOOLL TAAAAAHDE.
The most stunning event in the history of the Fulmer Cup places Alabama at the pinnacle of offseason feloniousness. Update brought to you by Brian, who is hung like Reggie F'n Nelson and as tenacious as a Jimmy Johns pit bull.

Jimmy Johns' monumental arrest for powdered cocaine distribution nets Alabama a mountain of points as powdery as Breckenridge in February and just as immovable.
Before any points are awarded, bear this in mind: while Johns may be eligible for the Ellis T. Jones III for individual achievement, the points may not be discarded as "just one guy" thanks to Alabama already having several offenses on the board. The judgment is that Alabama keeps the points, and there will be no debate, because this is not democracy. (Those who object will not be waterboarded, but rather "aqua-cuddled." It's not torture if you have a good word for it!)
The tally, as assembled from Johns' weighty entry at the Tuscaloosa County Jail:
Five counts of unlawful distribution of a controlled substance times three points each= Fifteen points
One count possession of powdered cocaine: three points
Two unreported traffic citations= two points
The final tally: TWENTY POINTS, a score deserving of all-caps hyperbole, except that it isn't hyperbole if you even come close to halving Ellis T. Jones 13 felony charges (somewhere around a forty point score by itself without any bonus points. Quantifying his achievement almost demeans its greatness.)
Alabama now sits proudly with an oxygen bottle on an Everest of points: 28. The prayer flags flapping in the breeze, the Himalaya all around you...it would be beautiful if we were talking about mountain climbing, and not a college linebacker caught selling blow in an undercover sting operation.
One point not to be forgotten is that if you sell to one person five times, the actual number of transactions Johns made with customers was likely larger. No one sells coke experimentally or on a lark, especially when you're diligent enough to make five sales in a row. Johns seemed to be pretty serious about this, and to imagine some of his teammates did not know he sold yayo from his apartment is insanity.
There's a fine line between dumping off a few grams for a friend for extra cash and being a responsible, diligent, and responsive coca dealer. And yes, that's an abominable pun we shouldn't have even sniffed at. Sniff! Cocaine is funny! Except when it destroys your family and eats your house, car, and septum!
In addition to this, a website suggests Jimmy Johns may have been selling pit bulls using his name, something Will points out is a possible violation of NCAA rules. For all we know the site may be a mockup for a class, since there's only an email address and no phone contact. Further digging required, but further proof all football fans in the state of Alabama sleep with a bible on one nightstand and a copy of the NCAA rules and regs on the other.
One final note on this: Johns allegedly had tabs of Ecstasy on him, too, but it pops up nowhere on the charges, meaning so many charges are in play here that adding the E onto the tally is considered overkill even by the prosecutors here. We follow their guidance and stick to the arrest record for points, and award no style points because, really, some things speak well enough for themselves on their own.
In what would be big news any other week, Washington State picks up a three point adjustment for this unreported (or totally missed, perhaps) incident from February, which eventually resulted in a series of misdemeanor pleas:
Andy Mattingly, a linebacker coming off an outstanding sophomore season, was in Spokane in late January when a friend called for help. His front teeth had just been punched out in an argument with some soccer players from North Idaho College, he said.
The friend joined up with Mattingly and Trevor Mooney, a WSU tight end. The three went to Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, where two of the soccer players, a goalie and a midfielder, shared an apartment.
First, they knocked. Then, Mattingly kicked in the door. The midfielder grabbed a steak knife, the goalie a butter knife. Mattingly picked up a frying pan off the stove.
The midfielder jumped out a window. This left the goalie Cesar Lira, 5 feet 10, armed with a butter knife to contend with Mattingly, a 6-4 linebacker swinging heavy kitchenware.
Mattingly hit Lira's head so hard the pan's handle broke, court records say. Lira got back up, jumped out a window and called police. He had a 2-inch gash and was "bleeding profusely," a police report says.
When police arrested Mattingly and Mooney, Mooney was so drunk he vomited while being booked.
Frying pans are the new kettlebells!
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“Breckinridge”? Maybe you mean “Breckenridge?” Yup, I’m an ass.
by Cincy's Dad on Jun 25, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply actions
Can’t wait for the Bama T-shirts that say “Got 28?”
by Doug on Jun 25, 2008 10:57 AM EDT reply actions
“The most stunning event in the history of the Fulmer Cup”? Orson, you are the master of hyperbole.
The Delaware armed home invasion? Points wise, Johns might be bigger, but I stil consider that far more shocking.
Ellis T. Jones? No further questions, your Honor.
by John on Jun 25, 2008 11:00 AM EDT reply actions
Saban should be proud of Jimmy Johns. Another title coming his way.
A Barry Switzer reference anyone?
by blon57 on Jun 25, 2008 11:00 AM EDT reply actions
2 more and all that “got 12?” gear sold at Wal-Mart will take on a whole new meaning.
by john on Jun 25, 2008 11:05 AM EDT reply actions
BTW,
Your hyperbole aside, this post needed a fucking siren.
by John on Jun 25, 2008 11:05 AM EDT reply actions
With the pic of Jimmy Johns (you know me, I’m your friend, your main boy, thick and thin) up top and Big Red in the index, consider my morning made.
by jakldawg on Jun 25, 2008 11:11 AM EDT reply actions
Maybe we weren’t clear enough with Nick about the type of championship we expected.
by BamaCPA on Jun 25, 2008 11:11 AM EDT reply actions
I bet now he wishes that he would have been delievering sandwiches instead of snow.
by haybeav on Jun 25, 2008 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
mike AND marcus vick are impressed by jj’s entrepreneurial spirit.
where can i get a full size version of jimmy “tony montana” johns???
by gerry dorsey on Jun 25, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply actions
Not to be a sticker, but UCF is missing a piddly tampering-with-fire-supression-system charge
(stickle!! stickle!! stickle!!)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/ncaa/06/23/ucf.kay.ap/index.html
(stickle!! stickle!! stickle!!)
by CincySooner on Jun 25, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply actions
I’m seeing a future LSUFreek episode involving JJ and Al Pacino.
by The Snake will Drive Again! on Jun 25, 2008 11:16 AM EDT reply actions
Selling blow may be worse than breaking into someone’s apartment and hitting them with a frying pan, but more than SIX TIMES worse? Breaking and entering, plus assault, plus bonus points for use of an unusual weapon, soccer players jumping out windows and vomiting at the police station…Wazzu should be docked more than three points.
The real question is, if the soccer guys obviously couldn’t handle a much bigger guy capable of breaking their door down, how did they manage to knock Mattingly’s teeth out in the first place?
by Hannibal Montegna on Jun 25, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply actions
I wanna see Jimmy Johns push Nick Saban out of the helicopter.
by John on Jun 25, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply actions
Hey, they stole my Tony Montana photoshop job!
http://tigersx.net/forum/index.php?topic=1792.msg21394
by Chizad on Jun 25, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply actions
“Cesar Lira, 5 feet 10, armed with a butter knife”
SAY ‘ELLO TO MAH LIL’ FRIEN’!!!
by CincySooner on Jun 25, 2008 11:19 AM EDT reply actions
Ah dammit, dammit, dammit,
beaten to the punch again
by CincySooner on Jun 25, 2008 11:20 AM EDT reply actions
“For all we know the site may be a mockup for a class, since theres only an email address and no phone contact.”
Can’t find which story I read this in, but it should be somewhere on al.com in one of those papers’ sports section, but one writer said he found an endorsement from Johns on another pit breeders’ Web page, so it seems Johns actually was involved in the business. Also I don’t know why you’d actually buy a domain for a class mockup but I ain’t loaded with yayo money. PAROLE TIDE!
by Kilgore Trout on Jun 25, 2008 11:21 AM EDT reply actions
Chizad, I made my own version. But yours was more complete — I didn’t bother to re-tint the hands or spread blow across JJ’s face.
by Boardmaster Brian on Jun 25, 2008 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
Hmm… those are some nice looking bullies. I wonder why the “Jimmy John’s News” linky isn’t working? Maybe I’ll email him to find out.
by UgasTexan on Jun 25, 2008 11:32 AM EDT reply actions
Tusacloosa’s campus/entire town is basically a cocaine distribution center … and has been since before the mid-80s.
This is not surprising and all part of The Process, a’ight?
by Saban'sHairDye on Jun 25, 2008 11:32 AM EDT reply actions
Cesar Lira must be a BAMF. He gets hit in the head by a frying pan so hard that the handle breaks off, and only sustains a two-inch gash and still has the state of mind to get the fuck out of there? Kudos to you, my Latino friend, although why would you pick up a butter knife?
by WarCardinals on Jun 25, 2008 11:34 AM EDT reply actions
Christmas came early for Holly.
How will Cybertide respond?
by Ryno on Jun 25, 2008 11:35 AM EDT reply actions
Just wait ’til the #1 recruiting class becomes eligible to help with the Fulmer Cup. Look out world!
by OhioDawg on Jun 25, 2008 11:35 AM EDT reply actions
Dear Michigan Homer MGoBrian,
Where did the additional 3 Penn State points come from? They were at 14 (6 points for Quarless’ two DUIs, 8 points for Chris Bell’s knife-pulling stunt).
Sincerely,
Penn State Fan
by Penn State Fan on Jun 25, 2008 11:35 AM EDT reply actions
Just like a soccer player to bring a butter knife to a frying pan fight.
by Mitch Cumstein on Jun 25, 2008 11:35 AM EDT reply actions
#12
It is good to have a well-rounded program. Alabama is excelling on so many levels.
The Big 12 (South) isn’t keeping pace with the SEC. We need to step up.
by blon57 on Jun 25, 2008 11:36 AM EDT reply actions
#33
The Big XII is relying on the North to carry the conference in the FC this year.
by CincySooner on Jun 25, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions
Orson,
Do you think it may be time to join Finescum in radioland to, umm, like award ’bama with #14.5?!?!?!!!
by Downtown Plainsman on Jun 25, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, Bama winning an award name for Phil Fulmer … mass hysteria!
by Tommy on Jun 25, 2008 11:41 AM EDT reply actions
@17
Universal Studios just contacted LSUFreek. It’s just that big…
by MorningBeer on Jun 25, 2008 11:44 AM EDT reply actions
#35
I know, but gosh, seems like we should be in there, too. It is a strange year when Texas and OU aren’t in on the tally.
by blon57 on Jun 25, 2008 11:45 AM EDT reply actions
See Brian? Saban was wise to sign all those recruits. You never know when the coke ring will blow up and you need more bodies.
By the way, how come he didn’t have any ESS EEE CEE speed?
by Patrick on Jun 25, 2008 11:45 AM EDT reply actions
Wf’nVU thanks you Jimmy Johns. Assuredly a couch will be burned in your honor. And maybe a recliner, too.
by paco on Jun 25, 2008 11:47 AM EDT reply actions
Now I know PSU isn’t a bunch of angels but I don’t think we deserve three points for existing.
by psuphiman80 on Jun 25, 2008 11:48 AM EDT reply actions
I see Bama is well on it’s way to National Championship #13.
Rammer Jammer, Yellow Hammer, 10 to 20 in the Slammer!!!
by Blooow Tide!!! on Jun 25, 2008 11:54 AM EDT reply actions
And think, Croom was this close to convincing Johns to play at MSU… think he feels better about losing him to Shula now?
by PeterPumpkinhead on Jun 25, 2008 11:58 AM EDT reply actions
@18
Just to clarify, it was Mattingly’s friend that got his teeth knocked out, not Mattingly or his fellow WSU player. But I do share the general sentiment. When the guy with the steak knife jumps out the window and a linebacker is left taking on a 5’10 butter knife-armed goalie, a frying pan shouldn’t be necessary.
by DC Domer on Jun 25, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
3 points would make Washington State have 17 points for 4th place
by Theskipster on Jun 25, 2008 12:03 PM EDT reply actions
All six BCS conferences are represented in the top 6. Once again though, the SEC dominates. I always knew Alabama would perform better in the second half this year. I just wasn’t sure it would be in football or FC. Mizzou better step it up soon, since once practice starts, time for malfeasance is limited. There is nothing like summer. Warm weather and time to burn=Fulmer Cup points explosion.
by Crabapple Buck on Jun 25, 2008 12:03 PM EDT reply actions
According to the TPD the possession of a controlled substance charge is what the ecstasy was for. So please no more points.
by Brandon on Jun 25, 2008 12:03 PM EDT reply actions
Sounds like Mr. Johns is living his own personal episode of “When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong”
by Chips O'Toole on Jun 25, 2008 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
According to the last update I can find, WSU didn’t even get their full 3 pts credit (and I agree that the story sounds like it is worthy of at least 4), and that PSU did somehow pick up an additional 3 without merit.
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/06/10/fulmer-cupdate-eer-closer-to-the-lead/
by pz on Jun 25, 2008 12:07 PM EDT reply actions
- - I want to see Jimmy Johns wake up with TAFKAOSU’s head in his bed…. oh wait, wrong movie.
by Out of Conference on Jun 25, 2008 12:12 PM EDT reply actions
http://www.mastinspitbulls.com/
the site where another breeder denounces their sale of breeding dogs to JJ…
paRoll Tide!
by dawgaddict on Jun 25, 2008 12:18 PM EDT reply actions
In all seriousness, EVERY major university (and lots of smaller ones… I’m looking at you Troy State) is a Cocaine Distribution Center… and a Weed Distribution Center… and an X Distribution Center.
Feel free to bury your head in the sand about it, especially if you have college age kids, but it’s all over the place. And for athletes it doesn’t stop in college… steroids really ought to be the least of the NFL’s worries. If you’re a Miami Dolphin and you’re not doing Blow, you’re not getting any love from your teammates. Period.
by PeterPumpkinhead on Jun 25, 2008 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
and the ever popular MySpace trail….
notice the quote at the top: "Mastins Pitbulls Wonders WTF some people are thinking!!!? "
lol
by dawgaddict on Jun 25, 2008 12:23 PM EDT reply actions
by dawgaddict on Jun 25, 2008 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
peterpumpkinhead @ 55 is exactly right.
however, to echo saban’s hair dye @ 27, tuscaloosa is likely worse than most. i’m now 29 and can’t recall ever seeing the powder anywhere outside of t’town…and i live in dallas.
by gerry dorsey on Jun 25, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions
Here’s an update from (snicker) “The Rap Sheet.” JJ’s Pitbulls is not a class project:
http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2008/06/jimmy_johns_life_as_an_entrepr.html
by Flibbetigibbet on Jun 25, 2008 12:27 PM EDT reply actions
Crabapple Buck:
Please do not lump Bama as a representation of the SEC.
That goes for on the field as well.
They are the chemically imbalanced cokehead uncle in an otherwise successful and proud family.
by Chizad on Jun 25, 2008 12:29 PM EDT reply actions
- & #57
Every reputable breeder sells to college students. Right…
by blon57 on Jun 25, 2008 12:33 PM EDT reply actions
#59
Are you saying there is no cocaine in Dallas? Are you kidding?
by blon57 on Jun 25, 2008 12:45 PM EDT reply actions
63-
Maybe he’s never been to Plano…and he definitely doesn’t hang out with any SMU alums….
by chuy on Jun 25, 2008 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
@62
i just report the facts, like a real reporter….lol
and in T-town, perhaps it is seen as a good business venture to sponsor a college athlete-breeder…there’s no blessing like that of the Crimson Tide, etc.
…or perhaps you are Roll Tarded and didn’t notice that this story is funny, and the student athlete caught selling coke lives in Tuscaloosa, not Dallas.
by dawgaddict on Jun 25, 2008 1:01 PM EDT reply actions
#65
I was being sarcastic. It just doesn’t come across when I write.
Reputable breeders do home visits and background checks before selling to individuals, plus they have extreme contracts on stud/breeding rights. The legitimate dog world is one of moneyed interests and they are very select about who is in and who isn’t. My point was that (obviously) these are not reputable breeders, but trailer-park types who sell dogs to anyone.
As to reference #59, this guy probably doesn’t get out much in Dallas. Coke is rampant in most college towns, and especially in Dallas, where students probably have an abundant monthly allowance from their parents and a lot of free time.
by blon57 on Jun 25, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
So now that JJ is gone Who’s carrying the “rock” next year for the Tide?
by Dumpster Baby on Jun 25, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply actions
Chizad,
You of all people should know that LSU has many skeletons in its closet. You don’t have to look hard to find a bunch of coonass, corndog smelling fools that root drunkenly for the Tigers. Just because you guys have had some success in the last 6 years doesn’t mean you have the right to be elitist snobs and act like your shit don’t stink. One doesn’t have to look any farther than how they handled the sixty million dollar man to see that.
At least Saban booted Johns sorry ass off the team immediately, instead of testing the waters (several times) and doing everything short of sacrificing a virgin to keep Perilloux on the team.
by Steve on Jun 25, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
It truly sucks that the ‘Things Crimson and White People Like’ post came out within the past week or so. This event could have made it so much sweeter. Tooting own horn here, but a few posters including myself, asked about the omission of the ‘white bag’ from the list. As ironic as rain on your wedding day. Wait, that’s not ironic at all unless the bride and groom were named Sunny Aldeetime and Notta Kloudendeesky. Or the couple getting married were the capsules you dropped into water that turned into foam dinosaurs. ‘’I didn’t know you were a velociraptor, honey.’’
by EmotionalFescue on Jun 25, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
#70, nice spin. sebear kicked him off the team AFTER he had been kicked out of school…not to mention he’s facing 15 years MANDATORY. He’s a joke of a disciplinarian.
by john on Jun 25, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
obviously there is coke in dallas…its the douchey yuppie capital of america. my point wasn’t that there isn’t coke in dallas, but that there is a great deal of it in t’town.
and no…i don’t hang out with any smu alums…please refer to first sentence for reason.
by gerry dorsey on Jun 25, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions
70,
Sneaking into a casino is par for the course in the Great State of Louisiana.
by John on Jun 25, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions
My New Favorite Fark. Eat your heart out, LSUFreek.
by NewAZTiger on Jun 25, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply actions
Second. Best. Day. Ever.
The best day ever is reserved for the day the NCAA finally realizes they made a huge mistake by not shutting Alabama down back during the Albert Means case and makes right on their mistake and finally shuts Alabama completely down.
by TAFKastOSUB on Jun 25, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions
based on his website, at least we know jimmy can read and write… the same can’t be said for Tray Blackmon, Carnell Williams, Bo, etc, etc…
by matt on Jun 25, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions
oh, the aubs r so excited they may sh_t their overalls!
by WALLACE on Jun 25, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions
- With Johns under arrest and out on bond for a shit load of drug related charges, should we really be praising Nick Saban for his speedy dismissal of Johns??? What choice did he have…the University expelled him immediately…kind of hard to stay on the football team when the school kicks you out.
by TAFKastOSUB on Jun 25, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions
<>
That may be true, but for his sake, let’s hope he can hold on to the soap, unlike the football.
by Just wondering on Jun 25, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions
- +1
- +2
Also a big backer of #72, yes quite the mans man to kick a player off the team who is facing a triple nickle in the state pen…what a ball buster! Geez can a guy catch a break? Slang some ’cane, raise some pits, the man is trying to LIVE son! Economy is rough!
by COB on Jun 25, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
Remember how Spurrier cleaned-house when he started at USC? That’s what disciplinarians do.
Saban basically didn’t clean house, thus he kept all the bad apples. Great coach, great disciplinarian.
The Process is the method in which the Tuscaloosa Police Department cleans up the Bama football team under Saban’s watch. They all get Processed.
by NewAZTiger on Jun 25, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
My Bama friends are going to pissed about winning this championship. Not so much because it is awarded to criminals, more so because it is named after Fulmer. I see them burying this one deep in the trophy case…
:-)
by kt on Jun 25, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
Not that it makes much difference, but I believe he was suspended from the University, not expelled. I’m sure that will come soon enough, though, if it hasn’t already.
by Tater Salad on Jun 25, 2008 2:15 PM EDT reply actions
- - “Tusacloosas campus/entire town is basically a cocaine distribution center and has been since before the mid-80s.”
We are shocked and appalled — HARRUMPH, by gravy — by this information, and hope the local constabulary will take stern measures. Tut-tut and good day.
Signed,
America’s Food Service and Finance Industries, Most Politicians, the Last Two US Presidents, 3/4ths of the bands you like, and All Fraternity Members.
by jwoolf1 on Jun 25, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions
#87
Holly,
We’ll do our best to try to match the SEC, but I can’t make any promises. Y’all have so much talent.
OU care to weigh in on this one?
by blon57 on Jun 25, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply actions
Wow,
I can just imagine that little puke goalie wielding a butter knife in a fight.
seriously, it is a testament to the power of jimmy johns (subs), that his crimes are so massive, even great fulmer updates look puny by comparison
by UFJim on Jun 25, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply actions
76- You are starting to sound like the “bad guy” in some shitty movie. Do rub your hands together and grin when you say that shit out loud?
by jegtar on Jun 25, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions
This site seems to be using the same scoring system as you, and it appears that they may have information you’re lacking (see: Washington St., Nebraska)
http://www.sportsargumentwiki.com/index.php?title=Fulmer_Cup
by Wayne on Jun 25, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions
We should all chip in and help O buy a legit Fulmer Cup trophy so that we can have presentation day to the champions of infamy and mark the opening of the season.
by Kenny on Jun 25, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions
#93, I made it, but I was just visually executing a fun post I saw.
by NewAZTiger on Jun 25, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions
When does the new Drive-By Truckers song about this come out?
by DevilGrad on Jun 25, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions
- is excellent.
“Coach _______” was an especially nice touch.
And all the guys trotting out the “every school does it” excuse should be quite proud of holding up yet another long lived bama tradition.
by TIGERinATL on Jun 25, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
I wish the Fulmer Cup had been around when my alma mater (Central Michigan) had six players kicked off the team for murdering a guy.
by briandtw on Jun 25, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
Gotta love the hate.
If Saban went in and kicked half the players off the team, he would have been crucified by you same assholes because he was trying to make room for players that fit in “his system”. He keeps the bad apples, and he’s a crook that is just interested in winning football.
I’ll remember that when the next school fucks up and remind them that their coach didn’t get rid of “insert player name here” before the press got ahold of the story. You know, because Saban is apparently omnipotent. He knows exactly what 100 kids are doing at all times, day and night, especially in the off season, when he can’t spend any time with the kids for any sort of organized activities.
I hope all of you catch some kind of fire-piss STD’s and die of a pus-filled dick explosion.
by Steve on Jun 25, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply actions
- (TigerinATL) — you do mean, bama tradition, right? In the storied tradition of AU’s Robert Baker (convicted of toot trafficking, ’98)? I wonder if, as is the tradition, Baker grew a gnarly pirate beard before going to jail.
Undercover cop: “Hey Jimmy, what’s in your trunk?”
Pirate Jimmy Johns: “NARRRRRRRRcotics!”
We’ve all got skeletons in our locker rooms, even in the lurrvliest village. (Unfortunately, ’Bama may have to dress one at linebacker this year.)
by jwoolf1 on Jun 25, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
(should read: “you do mean, [state of Ala]bama tradition, right?” Stupid punctuation web typifying)
by jwoolf1 on Jun 25, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
Damn you, Saban. Why didn’t you kick everyone off the team last year and replace them with boy scouts and little American flags? Fucking America-hating asshole. Like you knew this wasn’t coming. The least you could’ve done is use some of your 4 billion dollar salary to have cameras installed in every player’s apartment and hire private investigators to spy on them 24/7. Is that asking so much, you greedy fuck? Yeah, apparently so. And now that I think about it, why DIDN’T you retroactively recruit Shula’s guys for him when you had the chance? No answer for that one, huh smart guy? No, this just doesn’t add up AT ALL! Fucking dick. If one thing is clear, the [insert clever pun here] Tide is out of control, Saban is actively supporting domestic terrorism, and I thank God that so far today none of the players on my favorite team have yet to steal the spotlight from Jimmy Johns and Alabama with their own boneheaded behavior … or have they?
hits refresh on ESPN’s college football home page repeatedly and then chuckles to self while twirling imaginary villain’s mustache
by droll tide on Jun 25, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions
#76
I’m guessing your best day was just the other day when you learned that Comcast was indeed running cable to your trailer park.
As far as Saban not cleaning house when he arrived, you all know good and well that if he had kicked some players off right when he arrived, you’d be on here talking about what a heartless bastard the guy is….. Oh wait, you’d do that in any circumstance.
by crimson daddy on Jun 25, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
Wow. How could a coach of a major university be expected to catch an illegal drug dealing dog-breeder on his team when he had virtually no time (18 months) to evaluate his program, it’s players, his staff and institute a program to turn the team around?
I mean, you’d have to pay him millions of $$s before you could expect him to do that, right?
Or is that ’aight?
by sullivan013 on Jun 25, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
Any single occurrence of 20 FC points or more at least needs the Fulmer Cup song posted.
by Brian O'Blivion on Jun 25, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
- and #104
Scenario: HC winning coach returns to SEC at second SEC school following coach that recruited questionable characters .
Spurrier cleaned house and took his licks. His program is much cleaner and USC isn’t leading the FC.
Saban came in, same situation, and didn’t clean house. He still posted a crappy record and now he’s got a 1.3 arrest/win ratio. You could always look at it this way – he only paid $400,000 per arrest.
Saban chose to keep the bad apples. Spurrier didn’t. By not kicking off the crap, Saban effectively re-recruited bad apples to the program. That’s not even counting the armed robber Saint Nick brought to campus.
by NewAZTiger on Jun 25, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
Damn my math, it’s 1.42 arrests/win. I bet Saban is leading the nation in that category.
by NewAZTiger on Jun 25, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
I’m asking for Bonus points…it is coming out now that Johns made one of the sales in the parking lot of the University of Alabama Athletic Complex.
Got to be worth 1 extra point.
by TAFKastOSUB on Jun 25, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions
108 -
You’re so full of shit. How could Saban have done anymore? JJ was in Saban’s doghouse for different things that Saban was aware of (missing class, workouts, etc.), and Saban gave the kid punishments and kept him from playing.
However, Saban had no idea that JJ was involved in this kind of thing and the TPD even said that no one on the team knew about it. If he’s seemingly taking care of a kid and his problems (JJ went from being a “bad apple” to winning an award in the spring for his turnaround), and then gets railroaded by this, what else could he have done? He immediately dismissed him from the team (whether or not he had a choice on the matter, he still did it right away and didn’t delay by saying “Let’s wait to see what happened 1st”), but what else could he have done?
by Sad State of Affairs on Jun 25, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
by NewAZTiger on Jun 25, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions
New AZTiger – thanks very much for the Spurrier at South Carolina thumbs up. I cringe to think about what Holtz’s arrest to win ratio would have been during his stint here.
by Out of Conference on Jun 25, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions
Nobody circles the wagons quite like ‘Bama fans, but it’s a damn shame that we can’t convince more of ’em to point the guns in.
by DevilGrad on Jun 25, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply actions
Yea, Alabama! Book ‘em Tide!
Every ’Bama man’s behind you;
Hit your stride!
Go teach the Cokeheads to crave,
Send the Yellow Jackets to an overdose grave!
And if a man starts to weaken,
That’s a shame!
For ’Bama’s coke and X
Have writ her name in crimson flame!
Snort on, Snort on, Snort on, men!
Remember the Longest Yard we’ll win then!
Go, roll to victory,
Hit your stride,
You’re Dixie’s dealing pride, Crimson Tide!
by NewAZTiger on Jun 25, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions
- jwoolf1…I just had to stiffle laughter from my office mate…I’m a sucker for bad pirate jokes…
As a former library student at UA, I can vouch for having never, EVER seen the powdered stuff, unless you count the dust in the stacks at Gorgas Library. Though for that matter I never saw any student athletes in there either.
by the croominator on Jun 25, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions
jwoolf1 @ 101
The bama tradition I was referring to was the “everybody else does it too” defense. You guys should go ahead and copywrite that one.
by TIGERinATL on Jun 25, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions
You should have read your own link, there, Tiger. Then you would have seen where Saban dismissed the kid TWO HOURS after he was arrested.
And you know, the reason he kept him around was because Johns was such an integral part of the team last year. I mean, he gained at least one thous… wait, he had 20 tack… no, I mean he threw for over one… well shit, what did he do last year?
JACK SHIT. The kid was sitting the sidelines almost every game. He was already in the dog house, you don’t think Saban would have kicked the kid off of the team so fast you would have been complaining about jumping the gun.
by Steve on Jun 25, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions
Nick Saban is a strong disciplinarian. I mean he suspended DJ Hall for a whole HALF of the ULM game last year. Way harsh, Ty.
by TIGERinATL on Jun 25, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions
- - yeah. I flow like Shaq on the mic.
Paul Finebaum is reporting that Nick Saban couldn’t see over all the compact cars in the parking lot to see the deals going down.
by NewAZTiger on Jun 25, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions
Saban dismissed the kid AFTER he was kicked outta school.
Speaking of the Dog House – Jimmy Johns was involved in that. JimmyJohnsPitBulls.com has been pulled.
He was however, so deep in the doghouse that he got this after Spring Practice.
2008 WOODROW LOWE LINEBACKER AWARD: Jimmy Johns (LB)
by NewAZTiger on Jun 25, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions
#122
BWAHHAHAHA!!! God I hate those two men (finescum>saban), but that was a priceless image…
Thanks for sharing!
by Downtown Plainsman on Jun 25, 2008 5:43 PM EDT reply actions
NewAZTiger is the guy who blogs incessantly about how much he hates his ex-girlfriend and is SO over her. Seriously, with your rapier wit and come-hither posts, everyone knows you got dames on standby. So, screw her … and Bama … stupid cheating on me with my roommate Bama. FUCK YOU SABAN!!!
by droll tide on Jun 25, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions
Yep, the OBC sure did clean house and get rid of the bad apples from the get-go.
by J & D Lindsey on Jun 25, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply actions
Style points – The sales at his apartment were in proximity to an elementary school!
by B'ham Gator on Jun 25, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply actions
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“You know, because Saban is apparently omnipotent.”
If you poll 100 Alabama fans I’d bet you’d find at least 20 who actually think he is.
by WarCardinals on Jun 25, 2008 6:00 PM EDT reply actions
if you poll 100 Bama fans half would fail….zing
by dawgaddict on Jun 25, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply actions
#127: It’s like you’re reading my mail.
From 1997.
Can I come out of my mom’s basement now?
by NewAZTiger on Jun 25, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions
well over 100 comments on this one. perhaps cocaine should be the topic of every post which could boost your ad space revenue ten fold
by alanon on Jun 25, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply actions
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You know, because Saban is apparently omnipotent.
If you poll 100 Alabama fans Id bet youd find at least 20 who actually think he is.
And another solid dozen who’d be pissed off that people were suggesting their coach might need Viagra.
by DevilGrad on Jun 25, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply actions
could have been worse, could have been cutting lines using a dead girl’s credit card.
by lol on Jun 25, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions
I’m trying to figure out what my Nittany Lions did to jump from 14 to 17 points this week. What gives?
by Jen on Jun 25, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions
follow up – according to SAS wiki, Washington St. has 17 and PSU is still at 14.
by Jen on Jun 25, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions
All credit to Coach Saban. Everybody knows we couldn’t pull off any kind of fourth quarter comeback like this with Shula.
by dixiehack on Jun 25, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
Spurrier sure did clean up that program…
It sucks about Jimmy Johns, as well as our drug cartel that has finally been caught to stop supplying white frat kids the drugs they need.
by Stephen Garcia on Jun 25, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
Very, very funny.
I know who’s laughing … Fulmer! Ah the irony!
The only thing funnier than the AU fans’ glee is the white-red (intended) responses of the Bama folks reading them. I especially like the personal attacks.
Stay classy Alabama!
Oh yeah? Well … well … well – your momma’s ugly and you’re stupid!
Classic!
by Three Days of Orange on Jun 25, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
You messed up, the two traffic tickets are from a couple years ago and were not part of these charges. They were just listed as the only other offenses on his record. That will however not help him much. Do you add all the charges of all the other players or is Alabama just special. Thanks for the ranking but hopefully the next time we end up Number 1 will be 13 not a 20 or 28….
by James Turner on Jun 26, 2008 12:42 AM EDT reply actions
Well…..at least Jax State will have another ex-con to add to the roster, or is that South Florida?
Honestly kids, your blind if you think your program is clean….seriously, if the NCAA called every team from the SEC/ Big 10/ Big 12 back in to piss test/blood test RIGHT NOW, TODAY and check for narcotics, pain pills, steroids or any other controlled/banned substance, what do you think would happen?To the starters? Hell the 3rd stringers would be more than guilty…… Weed has always been the drug of choice for most of the D-1 football players I know whether it be Alabama or Auburn….Hell I’ve been at Leon Letts parties years before he got popped, hung out with Ralph Staten/ Sherman Williams in T-town and trust me, they never got tested til they pushed the envelope too far….getting too brave… Jimmy Johns is the only one to blame—his ego and in his mind, his status as an Alabama ball player made him think he was untouchable……hell most players I knew only sobered up or “cleaned” up right before August …..
A famous all time winniest high school coach told me
“if your gonna win State Titles on the 6A level, your gonna have to have your fair share of ‘straight out of the hood bone thugs’ to even get close. Most of the states highly recruited talent comes out of the slums of Prichard or cross the tracks in downtown Mobile/Birmingham…….you give em a little and they always are gonna want more…….hell its no secret half the team was stoned off their asses before the ULM game, DJ Hall included….Well now, the whole team will have HELL to pay, especially the guys who are still on the team that either knew about it or participated in it, and heads will roll and slots will come open……according to plan.
by Mr Pelican Pants on Jun 26, 2008 1:42 AM EDT reply actions
OU has the possibility of being on the Big Board soon?
http://www.kfsm.com/Global/story.asp?S=8557113&nav=menu151_4
by blon57 on Jun 26, 2008 8:18 AM EDT reply actions
“hell its no secret half the team was stoned off their asses before the ULM game, DJ Hall included .Well now, the whole team will have HELL to pay, especially the guys who are still on the team that either knew about it or participated in it, and heads will roll and slots will come open according to plan”
Laugh out loud funny, there Mr. P.P. You skillfully managed to turn your “everyone else does it too” argument into an even better excuse for getting War Hawked. And now the same coach who lifted Hall’s HC game suspension when the chips were down (vs. ULM of all teams) is going to flex his disciplinarian muscles on those punks?
Bravo on such a very Shane-worthy performance, my friend! RTR indeed!
by TIGERinATL on Jun 26, 2008 8:41 AM EDT reply actions
Thoughts on the Pitbull ring…
http://www.tigersx.net/
by Chizad on Jun 26, 2008 8:56 AM EDT reply actions
Everyone knows Jimmy Johns was heavily involved with Avon, Amway, and SMC products, somewhere, he took a wrong turn whilst going car door to car door…..
by Mr Pelican Pants on Jun 26, 2008 9:57 AM EDT reply actions
I just mentioned this to a Bammer daywalker in my office, quote “saban don’t put up with that shit he’s gone and all he did was play special tems last year”
Standard response
by willet on Jun 26, 2008 10:57 AM EDT reply actions
- There’s the spirit!
Do you know why Jimmy Johns was switched to Defense this year?
Because Nick Saban knew he could deliver the Blow.
by NewAZTiger on Jun 26, 2008 12:28 PM EDT reply actions
I give, I just hope we have team to field this fall.
by slammer on Jun 26, 2008 1:08 PM EDT reply actions
isn’t it a shame when the boosters and athletic departments don’ t pay their players enough and they have to resort to selling drugs to make ends meet?
sad…
by Excuse me Stewardess, but I speak jive on Jun 26, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions
- - It has less to do with “cocaine”, and more to do with the words “’Bama”, “Saban”, etc. Any mentioning of the latter in any (especially negative) context is an almost guaranteed 100+ comments from the flame war that is certain to erupt between the detractors and apologists of said institution and coach.
by ClwFlGator on Jun 26, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
Well let the jokes begin….
Parole Tide.
Criminal Tide.
Rammer Jammer Yella Hammer Half our team is in the Slammer.
Blow Tide Blow….with an off season like this and a Fulmer Cup within reach, we should win on the field…..if we can keep the team from trying to snort the field lines……..
by Mr Pelican Pants on Jun 26, 2008 11:53 PM EDT reply actions
Bigger problem in this situation: T-town is down a cocaine dealer. The city is in a panic. It would be like if Baton Rouge ran out of Corndogs
by pasta troy on Jun 27, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
This young entrepreneur was just trying to earn a return on his “host family” gratuities…
by Mark on Jun 28, 2008 10:05 AM EDT reply actions
If this holds up, expect the bammers to claim another national championship.
by Tom on Jun 28, 2008 10:46 AM EDT reply actions
well, its funny to laught at the tide but what a ass kicking we gave ya’ll phil fulmer stupid fans . eat your donuts and point fingers untill sadan runs him out of town .roll tide roll
by jack smitherman on Jun 30, 2008 3:20 AM EDT reply actions
because we all know that in tuscaloosa drug lingo “take me to the baskin-robbins in mcfarland mall” is slang for “give me an injection of something pretty darned dangerous.”
by kleph on Jul 2, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply actions

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