CURIOUS INDEX, 6/20/2008

Have you shaved your 40 time to under 6 yet?

Godspeed, er Ess EE CEE Speed, to you, sir.

I think the biggest difference right now is coaching. The Big Ten has lost a lot of the coaching talent out of the league and is in a transition period, with the recent losses of Alvarez, Carr, Walker, and Hoeppner, plus Tiller is leaving and Paterno should have left five years ago. Hopefully, Penn State will hire Schiano soon, and Rodriguez, Zook, and Dantonio can get some good systems in place to go along with Bielema and Tressel (and yes, I know relying on Zook as one of your top coaches may make most of you depressed, but he can at least get talent into the league, which is step one). The coaching turnover doesn’t help the development aspects at all, and Carr and Paterno both seemed to have slipped in developing players late in their careers (not to mention the absolute and complete collapse of Ferentz and Iowa).

So wait a minute. You’re saying chasing rabbits around the cane fields on the outskirts of pahokee has no influence at all on speed? But that means Bobby Bowden lied to us! No! I can’t accept it . . .

negative 100 cocktails to you for getting that damn song stuck in my head.

as long as Hammond stops wearing those damned pink shirts, his head can float all it wants. Those shirts are pretty bright in HD.

You mean, we get to watch four-and-a-half hour ND games against the service academies for six more years!!!!!!!!!

It’s brutal when ND games start at 2:30, SEC on CBS games start at 3:30, and the soul-sapping Irish games STILL end later. cold shiver

Coaching has to be the biggest discrepancy between the two leagues at the moment, but as Stewie Mandel likes to point, Conference power is cyclical.
Judging by how rapidly coaching staffs are being turned over throughout the country, it is hard not believe that will not play a part in a lot of fluctuation going forth.
I do, however, think demographics play a role here. It is a fact (don’t know if it’s a fact) that the population has been shifting towards the south and west, and with that should come a larger recruting base.
Lastly, I know this is an SEC orientated site, but doens’t anyone look into the past more than 3 years? The SEC has always been a great conference, but to imagine that they have always been the dominant force – as they are perceived in today’s game – is a little much in my opinion. Especially, considering you really only have bowl games and national championships to “rank” the conferences.

Explaining Mike Leach…this is where he lives.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Downtown_Lubbock_from_I-27_2005-09-10.jpeg

If you have never been to Lubbock you can’t possibly understand. Just living there would make any rational person come unglued from shear boredom.

Kelly Clarkson is punk as fuck.

#8

I believe that is sheer boredom?

1. and #10

Also, you have to drive to the county line to buy beer.

DanF @ 7 – I’m an Alabama fan and all we do is look back at the past. Other than the hiring of Saban, I coudn’t tell you a damn thing that happened in the last 3 years. But 1979, that’s a totally different story. I also think Florida might have something to say about the 90’s, Georgia the 80’s (early 80’s that is). Point being, football didn’t just happen here in 2003.

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Lubbock is still a dry town? No wonder those act the way they do.

Ohio State invented the two-headed QB system. Stanley Jackson-Joe Germaine, anyone? Plus, cargo shorts are timeless.

Picture @ 12 -
Penn State fan here, so living in the past is a favorite of mine as well.
Didn’t mean to infer there weren’t dominant SEC teams in the past. Just that the Conference as a whole being dominant seems to be a recent development that, I think, gets mistakenly applied to a larger timeframe.

1. - maybe it is “shear”. If you are bored, maybe you shear sheep. Or so the theory goes.

DanF:

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/rankings/all_time_conf_rankings.php

I think it has only recently received acknowledgement outside the South, but the SEC has been arguably the strongest conference for a long time. It’s even clearer in the decade rankings.

If you adjust for the site inexplicably crediting the Big 8 for the accomplishments of then SWC schools, the SEC is the top rated conference in six of the eight decades of the modern era. The conference finishes second to the Big Ten in the 1940’s, and second to the Big 8 in the 1970’s (assuming the SWC Texas schools did not account for the entire margin between 1st and 2nd).

Are you seriously citing a PERSONAL TRAINER as a source of wisdom? Get the fuck out. Any douche bag with $400 and a week of study time can get certified. If he knew a goddamn thing about developing top-tier college athletes, I’m guessing he wouldn’t be pontificating to your doughy ass (I like to imagine it’s doughy, anyway- it’s my thang). Anyhoo, love the site.

Oh- OSU split time at the QB spot between the mobile Stanley Jackson and pocket passing Joe Germaine in 96-97. So suck on that, jort-wearing poseur mofuckas. My cargo shorts are tight.

I just scrolled down to the previous post. My post? Redacted. Except for the shit about my cargo shorts.

chg @ #16 – Very compelling stuff. I’d be interested to see how the points for the 5 categories were actually tallied, I’ll have to do some digging

Orson!! You killed GuttyLittleBruins just by mentioning them!

Cowherd would be proud :-p

blon57
It might be a little unfair for you to show a pic of downtown Lubbock. I’ll be the first to admit that downtown is a wasteland, but I think if you come to Lbk this fall for Tech/UT you might be impressed by new construction that has been going on around campus.

And yes, Lubbock is still dry, but you don’t have to leave the county, just the city limits.

I had no idea Coach Leach had a thing for piratez

WVU ran daul-QBs in their undefeated season in 1993, before getting crushed by Florida in the sugar bowl… Jake Kelchner and Darrell Studstill… They were both on the same field in various sets that season

In the interest of preserving one their football traditions, ND included 460 collagen injections over 7 years for Tom Hammond.

Two knocks against the B10 or one of its schools in one post. Interesting that you singled them out so much.

Why the hate, brah? You’d think with the WWL, CBS and everyone else down on the B10 that it was enough to make you fight “the man” and sign the B10’s praises.

Guess I’ll have to go somewhere else to get my rage against the machine CFB coverage.

Orson,

Did you see this story about Duke winning a lawsuit against Louisville by arguing that its football team was so bad that any team in Division I would be a suitable replacement for the series it pulled out of?

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080619/SPORTS02/80619051/1002/SPORTS

Duke’s Slogan: We suck at football, but we have great lawyers! (spoken as a proud graduate of Duke University Law School)

“the only possible reason any discrepancy might exist between the SEC and the Big Ten is talent development. That’s it: not schemes, not odious theories involving weather, nothing but the training they receive and the varying emphases different programs build into their training programs.”

Sure, but coming to THAT conclusion requires logic and reason. That ain’t SEC-style! Pour another cocktail, praise GAWD, and run that 4.2 forty, dammit!

I think the discrepancy could have something to do with year round youth leagues and training as well. in the late 90s when i was in hs in florida my grandparents lived in indiana and i stayed with them one summer going to football and baseball camps all summer to stay out of their hair. I remember talking to the other guys up there who were from indiana, ohio and illinois and they were blown away that we had winter baseball and spring/winter football down in florida. i mean we have 4-6 week “spring” football seasons starting in feb.

“Very violent. Very intense. Helmets flying. Some fights. All the reasons you have football,” Leach said.

yarrr… I was thinkin’ the same thing last time me and me crew ran into the Hell’s Angels while in port

Lots of German men are walking around with those types of cargo shorts….I saw some yesterday……