Comments on: TY GOES FOR TWO http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:56:54 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Helio http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/comment-page-1/#comment-299472 Helio Sun, 25 May 2008 20:21:05 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/#comment-299472 "It's impossible to put pressure on someone whose expectation is greater than those who seek to apply pressure. Is there anyone who wants to win more than Coach Willingham?" - Mr 11-25 “It’s impossible to put pressure on someone whose expectation is greater than those who seek to apply pressure. Is there anyone who wants to win more than Coach Willingham?”

- Mr 11-25

]]> By: oc phil http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/comment-page-1/#comment-299471 oc phil Sun, 25 May 2008 16:59:30 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/#comment-299471 The reason ND fans look ridiculous here is because they are still obsessed with Ty Willingham and using him as a scapegoat for Weis' failures. This is Charile's FOURTH season at Notre Dame. The guys in Charlie's first recruiting class are not "youngsters" any more, they are SENIORS. Guys that Charlie tried to recruit to Notre Dame will be playing in the NFL this season. It is legit for Washington fans to have questions or issues with Willingham (though there is no doubt that program is now in better shape than when he came in; that isn't saying much). Domers who won't let go and keep harping on "Ty sucks" or "it is all Ty's fault" make themselves look pathetic and maybe a bit racist. The reason ND fans look ridiculous here is because they are still obsessed with Ty Willingham and using him as a scapegoat for Weis’ failures. This is Charile’s FOURTH season at Notre Dame. The guys in Charlie’s first recruiting class are not “youngsters” any more, they are SENIORS. Guys that Charlie tried to recruit to Notre Dame will be playing in the NFL this season.

It is legit for Washington fans to have questions or issues with Willingham (though there is no doubt that program is now in better shape than when he came in; that isn’t saying much). Domers who won’t let go and keep harping on “Ty sucks” or “it is all Ty’s fault” make themselves look pathetic and maybe a bit racist.

]]> By: J in SD http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/comment-page-1/#comment-299457 J in SD Sat, 24 May 2008 19:58:26 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/#comment-299457 sb - when I called you a "cipher" I meant it in the original sense of the word - "zero". The last refuge of a moron appears to be to say that ND fans "lack a sense of humor." Are you really Jay Leno? sb – when I called you a “cipher” I meant it in the original sense of the word – “zero”. The last refuge of a moron appears to be to say that ND fans “lack a sense of humor.” Are you really Jay Leno?

]]> By: sb http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/comment-page-1/#comment-299452 sb Sat, 24 May 2008 13:32:11 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/#comment-299452 St. @ #33...personal choice to grant credibility to and attempt to defend a questionable racist charge...still no evident humor and without it ND loses before setting foot on the field...you're supposed to be having fun...Saturday am...goin' to the beach! See ya! St. @ #33…personal choice to grant credibility to and attempt to defend a questionable racist charge…still no evident humor and without it ND loses before setting foot on the field…you’re supposed to be having fun…Saturday am…goin’ to the beach! See ya!

]]> By: fife in the bay http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/comment-page-1/#comment-299449 fife in the bay Sat, 24 May 2008 12:48:52 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/#comment-299449 @33 Well said. @33

Well said.

]]> By: St Guinefort http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/comment-page-1/#comment-299434 St Guinefort Fri, 23 May 2008 22:18:43 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/#comment-299434 ND sucked last year. It doesn't really matter WHY we sucked, just that we did. We SHOULD be better this year as our team will mature a bit and our schedule will be significantly more favorable (and perhaps even on the "easy" side, though that has yet to be determined). All the above being said, most knowledgeable ND fans expect ND to be average this upcoming year...just above sucky, but below good. If Charlie tanks this year (i.e., the team shows no improvement), I'm guessing he'll be out. If we are average, he'll get another year. As for TY, he sucks too. Everyone knows that misery loves company. Food for thought...Scout recruiting rankings follow..2005 Ty pulled in the 55th ranked class, Weis pulled in the 27th; 2006 Ty pulled in the 35th ranked class, Weis pulled in the 5th; 2007 Ty pulled in the 29th ranked class, Weis pulled in the 11th ranked class; 2008 Ty pulled in the 14th ranked class and Weis pulled in the 2nd. I think it's hard to argue that Weis is a significant upgrade in that department. I won't even delve into Ty's amazing lack of disregard for position depth, etc. when he rececruited because I expect it will fall on deaf ears. Suffice it to say, he didn't really plan for the future. Further you'll note that most of Ty's prized recruits at Washington are kids from Washington. He SHOULD be getting Washington kids. As for sense of humor, I think ND fans have one just like everyone else, but it's a bit hard to laugh at charges of racism from those who know not of what they speak. ND sucked last year. It doesn’t really matter WHY we sucked, just that we did. We SHOULD be better this year as our team will mature a bit and our schedule will be significantly more favorable (and perhaps even on the “easy” side, though that has yet to be determined). All the above being said, most knowledgeable ND fans expect ND to be average this upcoming year…just above sucky, but below good.

If Charlie tanks this year (i.e., the team shows no improvement), I’m guessing he’ll be out. If we are average, he’ll get another year.

As for TY, he sucks too. Everyone knows that misery loves company. Food for thought…Scout recruiting rankings follow..2005 Ty pulled in the 55th ranked class, Weis pulled in the 27th; 2006 Ty pulled in the 35th ranked class, Weis pulled in the 5th; 2007 Ty pulled in the 29th ranked class, Weis pulled in the 11th ranked class; 2008 Ty pulled in the 14th ranked class and Weis pulled in the 2nd. I think it’s hard to argue that Weis is a significant upgrade in that department. I won’t even delve into Ty’s amazing lack of disregard for position depth, etc. when he rececruited because I expect it will fall on deaf ears. Suffice it to say, he didn’t really plan for the future. Further you’ll note that most of Ty’s prized recruits at Washington are kids from Washington. He SHOULD be getting Washington kids.

As for sense of humor, I think ND fans have one just like everyone else, but it’s a bit hard to laugh at charges of racism from those who know not of what they speak.

]]> By: sb http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/comment-page-1/#comment-299349 sb Fri, 23 May 2008 16:32:52 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/#comment-299349 J in SD @ #29...you must admit that the pro-ND faction exhibits a startling lack of humor...or maybe you mustn't...regardless, intelligence is out the window when the discussion involves fandom and the defense of your particular flavor...and I prefer being "a cipher, within a riddle, wrapped in a conundrum, who hasn't been paying attention" J in SD @ #29…you must admit that the pro-ND faction exhibits a startling lack of humor…or maybe you mustn’t…regardless, intelligence is out the window when the discussion involves fandom and the defense of your particular flavor…and I prefer being “a cipher, within a riddle, wrapped in a conundrum, who hasn’t been paying attention”

]]> By: oc phil http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/comment-page-1/#comment-299345 oc phil Fri, 23 May 2008 16:02:27 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/#comment-299345 #23 Wooderson: It is not my opinion that ND plays a weak schedule, I was looking at the numbers calculated by the man of Steele the other day. Iowa and Missouri have weaker schedules, but I don't remember any other teams from BCS conferences that did. Yeah ND beat Stanford, but did you forget what happened when USC and ND played each other? Or what USC's final record was last year? #23 Wooderson: It is not my opinion that ND plays a weak schedule, I was looking at the numbers calculated by the man of Steele the other day. Iowa and Missouri have weaker schedules, but I don’t remember any other teams from BCS conferences that did.

Yeah ND beat Stanford, but did you forget what happened when USC and ND played each other? Or what USC’s final record was last year?

]]> By: wooderson http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/comment-page-1/#comment-299343 wooderson Fri, 23 May 2008 15:46:44 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/#comment-299343 Yes, fife. TW's shitty recruiting is TW's fault. Fortunately, this is the last year of that. Besides, the talent Weis has recruited has alread usurped the TW talent any ways, so the yougner guys will be getting the nods. Yes, fife. TW’s shitty recruiting is TW’s fault. Fortunately, this is the last year of that.

Besides, the talent Weis has recruited has alread usurped the TW talent any ways, so the yougner guys will be getting the nods.

]]> By: J in SD http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/comment-page-1/#comment-299340 J in SD Fri, 23 May 2008 15:22:36 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/#comment-299340 sb -- you're a cipher who hasn't been paying attention. as to #27, see my comments at #21. Claiming that Weis has no buyout is just plain dumb. sb — you’re a cipher who hasn’t been paying attention.

as to #27, see my comments at #21. Claiming that Weis has no buyout is just plain dumb.

]]> By: fife in the bay http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/comment-page-1/#comment-299313 fife in the bay Fri, 23 May 2008 14:15:21 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/#comment-299313 @25 Hence the quotes, chief. I can't wait until he is gone from UW. @23 Ill take that as a "yes," thanks. @25

Hence the quotes, chief. I can’t wait until he is gone from UW.

@23

Ill take that as a “yes,” thanks.

]]> By: I R A Darth Aggie http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/comment-page-1/#comment-299309 I R A Darth Aggie Fri, 23 May 2008 14:02:18 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/#comment-299309 And if Charlie doesn’t figure things out this year, we’ll pay him not to coach, too.

Too bad he has a long-term contract without a buyout clause.

And you people have a law school?

]]> By: sb http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/comment-page-1/#comment-299302 sb Fri, 23 May 2008 12:39:00 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/#comment-299302 J in SD @ #21...it appears the antipathy of the anti-ND crowd provides an exact corollary to widespread ND-homerism...while intelligence doesn't seem to enter into the equation. J in SD @ #21…it appears the antipathy of the anti-ND crowd provides an exact corollary to widespread ND-homerism…while intelligence doesn’t seem to enter into the equation.

]]> By: GamecockTony http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/comment-page-1/#comment-299301 GamecockTony Fri, 23 May 2008 12:37:49 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/#comment-299301 You are taking quite a few liberties with the word "working." I'd like to also "work" on my short game as much as Ty does. You are taking quite a few liberties with the word “working.”
I’d like to also “work” on my short game as much as Ty does.

]]> By: Bama93 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/comment-page-1/#comment-299300 Bama93 Fri, 23 May 2008 12:30:11 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/22/ty-goes-for-two/#comment-299300 #19 - exactly. Good guy, good position coach and hot wife. That does not always = good head coach as we came to find out. #19 – exactly. Good guy, good position coach and hot wife. That does not always = good head coach as we came to find out.

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