CURIOUS INDEX, 5/13/08
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The tallies from the first day of the EDSBS/Fanblogs Charity Drive are in, and the SEC and Big Ten lead the way: Team Donation Standings: 1) Michigan – $1,000 Conference Donation Standings: 1) SEC – $1,315 Today is the final day for donations to count in the positive for your team or conference, so get them in today to one of the three highlighted charities: the American Red Cross, the International Rescue Committee, or CARE. All three are engaged in the very serious business of relief for the tornadoes in Georgia and Oklahoma and typhoon relief in Burma, and all three are quality organizations with excellent ratings in terms of operating efficiency. (Check for yourself at Guidestar.) Tomorrow: Spite Against Blight, where your charitable contributions (reported to kevin@fanblogs.com) count against the team of your choice. Never has athletics-based animosity been turned to such a good end, dear reader. Excellent NFL Minor League; terrible BCS squad. The ACC is a muddled middle of parity, but it at least does the NFL draft well: The NFL draft is what gives the ACC credibility these days. Commissioner John Swofford spoke to the ACC’s coaches Monday and told them that the ACC’s 25 first-round picks the past three years are more than any other conference had over the same period. “If you’re looking for the validation of football and the quality of the conference, that’s a pretty good statement,” North Carolina coach Butch Davis said. “The draft pretty much tells you where the talent is.” Mm-hm. The same conference loaded with NFL talent also finished 12-13 in bowls over the past three years; either it’s a daming indictment of moribund ACC coaching, or NFL scouts hate to travel off the eastern seaboard. Rick Neuheisel explains it all. He, like, owns the freaking Rose Bowl if you listen to him talk about it.
“The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air lives across the street.” He had some trouble back in Philly, mind you, so he had to move out to LA to live with his auntie and uncle in Bel-Air with his amusingly articulate cousin Carlton. SMQ highlights something else people neglect in their calculations re: strength of schedule: the bearish slate Georgia faces in the SEC could, when pitted against a slighter undefeated schedule coming out of the Big Ten or Big 12, likely tip the scales in favor of the Bulldogs if/when bowl slots and national poll jockeying begins. USC does it by stacking their out-of-conference schedule and it pays off; Georgia’s doing it, too. If properly executed, you have to be perfect to trump it in the polls, and even then it’s a tough pick between a three-balled one-loss campaign and a nutless but undefeated run. Australia: it’s beer for “country.” |
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Out of Conference says:
100 bucks – really is that all Gamecock nation has? Hell, Clemson isn’t even on the board…. Coop, I’m looking at you and your girlfiriend’s parent’s mountain retreat in Boone.
Nut up, Group 5’s… I know you make the money.
May 13th, 2008 at 8:36 am
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Scalz1 says:
Tonight I will only have to double my sale of crack to vote tOSU down tomorrow. Luckily for my wallet, Notre Dame is nowhere near the top ten, much like in real life.
May 13th, 2008 at 8:58 am
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Last Dragon says:
SEC speed shines again………the leader out of the gate.
May 13th, 2008 at 9:00 am
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sb says:
Butch Davis ought to know about professional talent…hell, his NFL record speaks for itself. Fucker.
May 13th, 2008 at 9:00 am
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ThreenOut says:
If the NFL draft speaks better than records, why is Chuck Amato an assistant coach?
May 13th, 2008 at 9:10 am
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Ground0EastLansing says:
I’m proud that my home state is representing, but if I’m a UM fan, I’m saving my money for DickRod’s buyout.
May 13th, 2008 at 9:12 am
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Zone Left says:
Where are those SEC boosters? Bama’s got a 75th title to claim
May 13th, 2008 at 9:12 am
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Oranse Taylor says:
Butch Davis took William Greene ahead of Clinton Portis. Oh thats right, Butch was starting James Jackson over Portis, and Portis over McGahee, and McGahee over Gore…
May 13th, 2008 at 9:52 am
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Allahver Fist says:
Some sober Aussie fucker makes world news for a kid w/o a seatbelt on? We want some damned respect here!
Nice showing on the donorboards, UGA folks. It’s your own home state.
May 13th, 2008 at 9:53 am
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Brian says:
that rick nueheisel speech was yawn city. Littered with shitty HS football coach cliches “we dont rebuild we reload!” Sure thing boss.
May 13th, 2008 at 9:54 am
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beckett says:
Raise your hand if you believe the Rose Bowl is still relevant……….
May 13th, 2008 at 10:05 am
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gjp says:
Leave it to the leftist, hippy, liberals from that northern school to actually give a shit about others.
May 13th, 2008 at 10:07 am
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DC Trojan says:
I can’t be bothered to watch the whole Neuheisel video – did they edit out the part with the money taped to the underside of the seats? Someone needs to tell him that you wire the money to the kids’ families, and then charge the tv’s to a fake charity. Amateur.
May 13th, 2008 at 10:11 am
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Hemlock Philosopher says:
“SEC speed shines again………the leader out of the gate.” and is getting beat by Michigan, so I guess the paradigm holds true.
May 13th, 2008 at 11:00 am
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TAFKastOSUB says:
UCLA did beat the shit out of Alabama twice…one of those times Alabama was ranked 3rd in the country.
I think OU beat Alabama twice in a row right after that UCLA series.
Then Hawaii and Northern Illinois got in on the action.
I guess that is why Alabama’s OOC schedule since then has been Western Carolina, ULM (loss), Duke, Florida International, etc.
F-Alabama.
May 13th, 2008 at 11:18 am
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TAFKastOSUB says:
The Rose Bowl is the Granddaddy of them all…it’s just a shame that the SEC and the BCS has done everything in its power to dissolve the Rose bowl and its tradition.
Instead of getting behind and supporting PROFESSIONAL football in the southeast, you fuckers have done everything you can to turn the SEC and college football into a semi-pro league, complete with a free agency and a playoff.
College football is just about the only sport where teams only play their Rival once a year. In my mind, it should be the most important game of the year and anything that diminishes a Rivalry is not good for college football.
There is no feasible way to settle the matter of declaring a national champion that is fair and equitable for all 118 teams, and that also keep the tradition of Rivalries and academics in tact.
May 13th, 2008 at 11:28 am
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NRBQ says:
“academics in tact”
Perfect.
/The Rose Bowl sucks.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
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Yellow Tail Swine says:
The Rose Bowl can eat my ass.
The SEC hasn’t laid a god damn finger on the Rose Bowl. . . and if you don’t think College Football would be better served by a small playoff, then you are fucking retarded.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
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socalbryan says:
If I donate, how do I know those junta bastards aren’t getting any of my cizzash?
Slick Rick has a great comment around 5:45.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
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sb says:
TAFKas…you are just so wrong on so many levels…not so much the content because everyone has an opinion and their axe to grind, its more the vitriolic delivery, the strike first mentality, the regional prejudice and the “I’m right so fuck off” tone…but don’t stop now…I look forward to rebuttal comments and your defense…carry on.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
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sb says:
re: the Aussie beer/child debate…to be shocked that someone put their beer before a child, the same someone that drives without insurance or registration, is apallingly naive…like the old “gun control/only criminals now have guns” debate. Obviously, if that beer fell on the floor it would be suds for hours…c’mon,man! Ahhh, amusing…and in so many ways…
May 13th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
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beckett says:
okay…. if you HAVENT had a team blown out in a national title game in the last 2 years, and still find the Rose Bowl relevant, raise your hand…
The fact of the matter is Buckeye fans… that you’re the only ones that are so obtrusively against a playoff because you know, while you sit your perches and besmirch other teams and conferences, and talk of you’re academic and athletic superiority, you’re no longer major players…. Everyone outside of the the dying rust belt sees the same erosion in your football talent that we see in your local economies. The fact that the Big East has won more BCS games since 2005 should be a wakeup call. Yes, you’re playing in the Championship game, but you’re also noncompetitive in said game.
How bad is it for the Big 10? Well, at least when the ACC sucks, they can point out articles that prove their players get drafted and completely turn the attention of this thread back on you…
May 13th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
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BamaCPA says:
How has the Ohio State University done against Alabama ? Does the dialup down in your mom’s basement access that stat for you ?
May 13th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
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sb says:
…am I the only one here? Yeah, I’m bored, so what?
May 13th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
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sb says:
Thank you Beckett and BamaCPA…I was beginning to freak…
May 13th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
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TAFKastOSUB says:
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Hold the phone brother. Michigan is 5-2 against the SEC in their last 7 games and Penn State is 4-2…Wisconsin 3-3….Ohio State is the lone boat anchor in the Big Ten vs. SEC. It should also be noted that said games, the vast majority of them, have been played in the south or in warm climate. Granted BigTen teams are no longer built for 3 yards and a cloud of dust and the snow, but there has to be something said for having the game on home turf or out of the Southeast.
In terms of eroding football talent, you obviously don’t keep up with the NFL or the draft. Ohio State has more NFL draft picks and current players in the NFL than any school not named Miami.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that we live in a mobile society now and people relocate all the time, whether it be for work or for climate…the fact that it snows up North and most people don’t want to deal with the snow does not mean that the people of the south are better people, as often implied, it just means you don’t have snow….
Have you ever given any thought to the idea that all of the Midwesterners relocating to the south could have something to do with the progress the south has made in terms of economy? That and foreign auto manufacturers realizing they can establish manufacturing plants in the south and not deal with workers unions, as they do in the north.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
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socalbryan says:
tOSU won’t be an issue the next two years. Look for USC to blow them out this year.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
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sb says:
TAFKas…its that regional thing you got goin’ on, man…its not only mid-western relocation, but northeastern, pacific coastal, southwestern relo…and add to that the advent of air conditioning and you’ve got heaven in the sun. You’re making it sound like but for the rust-belt there would be no success in the south and its just not true.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
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Last Dragon says:
All those players in the NFL and still getting your ass beat in bowl games. You must have shitty coaches too.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
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meatybob says:
I am not an OSU fan and I do not support a playoff. But yeah, the rose bowl is just another bcs bowl now. Anything more is an illusion of grandeur.
Let me say this, I take no sides in this debate, but SEC, if the tide ever turns, like a midwestern team again beating your undefeated champion and probably that school’s best team of all time 62-24, there will be hell to pay.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
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oc phil says:
tOSU is a fair target for fans of Florida, LSU and any team that has lost fewer than 3 games in the last 2 seasons. Other than that, not so much.
tOSU has a loaded team this year but they have to play USC in LA, where only Stanford seems to have the kryptonite. That is going to be a great game.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
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BamaCPA says:
Maybe the success of the Sunbelt is traced to the fact that we aren’t self-absorbed, one-trick ponies like some “artists” we know.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
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sb says:
meaty @ #30…first, for anyone to catch up with the SEC there has to be a cultural change on a grand scale…beyond that, “hell to pay” means I would actually have to be listening…and that is not a sure thing.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
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Mr. Pelican Pants says:
The ACC may have good players drafted, but who can name any lately that have made an impact?
Big 10 is good for O/DL lineman and linebackers, one really good 6th round QB from Michigan,
the SEC does pretty good for RBs and inside-outside linebackers/DE speed rush types, and QB’s named Manning-Back to back World Champions in the same family from a championship Conference….. PAC-10 does pretty well for WR’s, QB’s and DB’s….
The question everyone is asking Reggie Bush about the difference between the NFL game vs his USC days, and he said the fact that by goin to the NFL, he had to take a pay cut……..
May 13th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
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Mr. Pelican Pants says:
tAFKAsAnSOB makes a vaild point, many people, when given a choice to spend their college years in mostly cold weather or warm weather, will choose the warmest. I think Miami may have the record for most talent taken in the top 5 rounds there in the early part of this decade, that probaly still start in the NFL as of right now,and that says something for Butch Davis and Larry Coker…..Miami when they were good would be one hell of recruiting trip, especially going to South Beach as a top rated Miami player in the “heyday”
To get Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Hester, Portis, Gore,Shockey, Winslow(he’s a soulja),Mcgahee, Andre Johnson,Vilma,Dorsey in a 5 yrs span much less on the same team…….you had to have naked chicks in the dorms is all I’m sayin
May 13th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
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beckett929 says:
tOSU has a loaded team this year but they have to play USC in LA, where only Stanford seems to have the kryptonite. That is going to be a great game.
really?? loaded?? REALLY???
Todd Boeckman? Those two 160lb WRs that couldn’t get open? Your **STAR** defensive player couldn’t stop Hester and Holliday… and that team is loaded?? I mean, Chris Wells is a nice running back, but theres about a dozen guys on his level playing bigtime ball…
I mean not to talk up USC, because God knows they don’t need it, but how ridiculous is Joe McKnight going to make that the Buckeyes’ defense look?
May 13th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
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beckett929 says:
totally worth clicking
May 13th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
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Poe McKnoe says:
Hey look, Michigan is beating Florida again.
At least this is more civil than the bowl game.
May 13th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
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Not Baghead says:
Hey Orson,
Just wondering how much Buzz Bissinger and his colleagues with all their journalistic integrity have raised for charity.
May 13th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
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TAFKastOSUB says:
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One trick ponies? We’ve got 7 National Championship trophies dating back to the 40’s (Ohio State doesn’t count the mythical NC that were awarded 20 years after the fact by some farmer’s almanac)…there is more tradition, national championships, Heisman trophy winners, first round draft picks and all-americans that have come through Ohio State than most of the SEC teams combined – that includes LSU, Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, and Georgia. In 2005, Ohio State had more 1st round draft picks (5) than the entire SEC combined…so don’t tell me about 1 trick ponies.
And yes, how quickly everyone forgets Nebraska dismantling Florida, one of the greatest teams to ever come from the SEC. And when it happens again, yes, there will be hell to pay.
You might be on a little run now, but that is only because you schools have the highest paid coaching salaries in the country and the vast majority of your coaches have zero integrity and push the recruiting violations envelop to the extreme.
May 14th, 2008 at 9:28 am
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BamaCPA says:
You’re the one-trick pony, moron. All you’re capable of is whining about the SEC, and specifically Alabama. Learn a new tune !
May 14th, 2008 at 11:41 am