FULMER CUPDATE: THE DEAD FINANCE YOUR SUBWAY RUNS EDITION
When a teammate dies tragically in an accident, you mourn. You listen. You hold those around you close and share the unbearable pain of loss. You take one of the dead people’s credit card and use it to buy shit for six months. You get arrested for it when the parents notice their dead daughter has been buying stuff for six months despite being dead.

Jamar Hornsby: creative financing available.
Jamar Hornsby of Florida followed this unique plan for mourning the loss of a teammate and a Florida student closely enough: somehow, after the death of Florida walk-on Michael Guilford and Florida student Ashley Slonina in a motorcycle wreck in October 2007, Slonina’s credit card ended up in the hands of Hornsby, who then revered the memory of the young lady by purchasing goods on the credit card for six months. Slonina’s parents finally noticed recently, and an investigation led to the beyond-classy Hornsby.
OS: Extra icing, please thank you very much life?
Life: Three scoops coming up, sir.
The card abuse started Oct. 13, 2007, the day after the girl’s death, according to court records and involved a BP gas card.
Ah, thanks life. You never force us to make things up, instead just giving us real and improbably terrible things. Hornsby is charged with credit card theft and fraudulent use of a credit card, which we imagine are both felonies. That’s three points times two for each felony charge plus the bonus point for using a dead girl’s credit card the day after she died and with one bonus point for it being a Florida Gator and therefore homer-shameful to us personally, and we take that to eight points for Florida, putting them on the big board in a fashion so tacky no amount of exponents can cover it.
Oh, and you there, we’ll say it for you “WAAAAAAHHHH you’re giving Florida points because you want to win.” Mr. Astoundinglystupidworth, if using a dead girl’s credit card the day after she died only gets two bonus points we should consider ourselves lucky for only getting eight points. Redux: you don’t want to win this thing. It’s not good. Perhaps that’s a point worth repeating from time to time: it’s not good to win the Fulmer Cup. It’s not good to win the Fulmer Cup. By the way, it’s not good to win the Fulmer Cup. For further reference, see: “Fulmer Cup: not good,” or the Wikipedia entry “Fulmer Cup: Bad.”
Extra fun update! How did Hornsby get the card? Simple. He took it when he was helping clean out the apartment with Joe Haden the day after the card owner died. Ashley Slonina. Joe Haden’s girlfriend. The dead one. Oh, Jebus this is sad.









1
Erdinger says:
that’s pretty low
May 9th, 2008 at 10:10 am
2
Harris says:
I don’t mind college athletes doing stupid and terrible things, but exactly how did he think he would get away with this? Dammit, man! Plan your exit strategy.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:12 am
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hobeg8r says:
As much as I hate to say this – I think we deserve more points than this. The only thing he didn’t do was go the grave and steal personal effects.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:12 am
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Sundawg says:
W-A-A-A-A-A-A you just gave Florida extra points so you could win!
[just so disappointment doesn't overwhelm you, O]
May 9th, 2008 at 10:15 am
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lawtool says:
what can you say about that sec speed
May 9th, 2008 at 10:17 am
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spartanmike says:
“Judge Davis ordered Hornsby not to use anyone else’s credit card.”
Can’t blame the judge for feeling the need to point this out…unreal.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:18 am
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Erdinger says:
Ashley was Joe Haden’s girlfriend… so what is Hornsby doing with her card the day after her death?
May 9th, 2008 at 10:19 am
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Mitch Cumstein says:
I bet he had a box of IOU’s, which are as good as money. That ones for a Lamborghini better hold on to it Mrs. Slonina
May 9th, 2008 at 10:23 am
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Darkknight says:
1% of 1%
May 9th, 2008 at 10:25 am
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Roaminggator says:
This is FSU low.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:25 am
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Pat says:
Meyer just said your punishment is too harsh….
May 9th, 2008 at 10:25 am
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Pillow Pants says:
@ #10
No. Don’t even think about to dragging us down to this level with you. You’ve broken new ground here.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:41 am
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Plastic Paddy says:
what a fucking pig.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:44 am
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Texas_Dawg says:
Meyer’s house of cards gets a little wobblier.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:48 am
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IrishCane says:
This story makes Canes fans squeamish.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:50 am
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Cruzer says:
# 15
100 cocktails to you good sir.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:55 am
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NativeSon says:
I can’t think of anything to adequately put thought into words here, so I’ll just go with “What Orson said.”
May 9th, 2008 at 10:55 am
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NewAZTiger says:
How else was Tim Tebow able to afford to go to Medical School?
May 9th, 2008 at 10:56 am
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snowcrash says:
Has he been dismissed from the team yet?
May 9th, 2008 at 10:59 am
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gerry dorsey says:
i need a shower after reading that.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:59 am
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AllWhoYonder says:
I had my credit card stolen and used by a fellow student while in college and I haven’t had many other things in my life that pissed me off as much as that. I cannot even imagine what I would do if I was the girl’s father.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:06 am
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Cecil Collins says:
even i am disgusted by this.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:07 am
23
Der Schatten says:
Jerramy Stephens wants to know what the big deal is?
May 9th, 2008 at 11:07 am
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mlmintampa says:
Six months? How did it take so long to catch this?
May 9th, 2008 at 11:10 am
25
Adam West's chauffeur says:
Unbelievably stupid.
(Horrible joke at the expense of a terrible situation):
Did he remember to collect the rewards points?
May 9th, 2008 at 11:11 am
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Vandalus says:
How is it possible that the article *didn’t* include a comment from Meyer? I mean, that’s standard fare right? At least contact the coach/university to inquire about his standing with the team. Additionally, I see this isn’t the first time Mr. Hornsby has seen the inside of a court room. I wonder how that will affect his punishment?
May 9th, 2008 at 11:14 am
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Oranse Taylor says:
He’s still eligible to play in the Capital One Bowl though, right?
May 9th, 2008 at 11:17 am
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sb says:
I would like to hear his rationale or explanation… naturally he has quite a high hurdle to clear in order to make this not sound as bad as it appears. Ought to be entertaining…unfortunately, he’ll probably follow his attorney’s advice and not say anything at all which will ensure our conjecture becomes our reality.
Kinda’ hot outside, huh? Startin’ to sweat a little…collar seems a little tight…gonna be a long hot summer…
May 9th, 2008 at 11:19 am
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Texas_Dawg says:
Has Joe Haden made it to Mexico yet? Or is he going to throw Hornsby under the bus?
http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20071107/NEWS/71106023/1090
May 9th, 2008 at 11:26 am
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DenverGregg says:
Two cadavers, one Fulmer Cup
May 9th, 2008 at 11:26 am
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NDL89 says:
Doug Gottlieb says, “What an idiot. He should have gone onlne and changed the billing address to a fictitious address. That’s what I would have done. That way you could run the card to max credit, and no-one finds out until it’s too late. It’s too bad he couldn’t learn from others’ mistakes. Geez, what a blown opportunity.”
May 9th, 2008 at 11:27 am
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The underrated Sorola Palmer says:
We’re on the big board in grand fashion before Summer A even starts – right in the thick of this thing. If we keep doing what we’re supposed to be doing, we’ve got a shot to win this thing at the end. A good second half deluge of UPs and FIDCs and we can win this thing going away.
You think Meyer lobbies for a chance to claim the title if it comes down to a tie? Maybe tOSU can make a run and we can kick their ass at something else.
All kidding aside, and as an alum and huge fan, this is really sad.
AND REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY F@#$KING STUPID!!!!!
May 9th, 2008 at 11:41 am
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Danmastaflex says:
according to the WWL, credit card theft is but a misdemeanor in the great state of Florida. your two point conversion has been nullified by an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for celebration.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:44 am
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odell51 says:
What a piece of shit. This is uncharted waters for any college program.
Charlie Weiss says you can keep your thugs.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:58 am
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Z says:
So there was no comment from coach about this? That’s just sloppy reporting.
To go along with a sick and despicable human. Is he still on the team? Has he even been suspended?
I have to go shower now after reading that story……..from the story…does this sound like he has stayed out of trouble?
Hornsby remains on a deferred prosecution agreement from the charges, in which he must pay back the damages, pay a fine and stay out of trouble for the next 18 months.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
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Jabar Gaffney says:
That shit is FUCKED UP.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
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Brian O'Blivion says:
While I agree this crime was terrible, it’s nowhere near a FC low and worthy of the righteous indignation being displayed. Any of the various rapes, sexual assaults, girlfriend beatings, etc are far worse.
/perspective
May 9th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
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CincySooner says:
Question: is each purchase a separate count or do they all roll up under the “credit card fraud” title?
May 9th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
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AUgrad says:
Although I never wish harm on anyone, I won’t be surprised if someday this guy is on the list for Darwin awards
May 9th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
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Allahver Fist says:
Deserves to spend 6 months in jail the day after his football career dies.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
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DC Trojan says:
Congress and the White House are interested in Jamar Hornsby’s innovative deficit spending techniques, and would like to learn more.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
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hobeg8r says:
Credit card fraud in Florida
Misdemeanor: Using the credit card 2 or less times AND less than $100 in total charges against card over a 6 month period
Felony: Using the credit card more than 2 times OR charges exceeding $100 over a 6 month period.
In light of the fact that this took place over a 6 month period and multiple charges were made, sadly to say, I think we have a felony. Even if it was a misdemeanor – which I doubt – it is still disgusting.
We deserve every point and then some.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
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CincySooner says:
Wait one more question:
how the hell did he get a hold of her credit card???
I’m assuming she had it on her person at the time of the accident.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
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Pants McPants says:
Ryan Perriloux wants to know if anyone has a spare copy of the Baton Rouge obituaries page…
May 9th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
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CincySooner says:
@42: the article says $3000
May 9th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
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jerry says:
Dadgummit… Boys will be boys. Let’s adjust the schedule until he returns.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
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Allahver Fist says:
Freshly stolen/cut and pasted from a thread on GatorCountry’s Swamp Gas board:
Name Booking Date/Time Pod Total Bond Status Federal Other County Hold
HORNSBY, JAMAR JEREL 05/09/2008 05:13AM FA 0 UNSENTENCED N N N
Case # 012008CF001981A Agency: ASO Bond Amount: $0.00 Status: UNSENTENCED
Charge Statute Description Level Degree
#1 817.60.1 LARC: OF CREDIT CARD M 1st
#2 817.61 FRAUD-ILLEG USE CREDIT CARDS: USE MORE 2 TIME 6 MS OBT GDS MNEY 100 DOL MORE F 3rd
May 9th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
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Mr. Pelican Pants says:
Kinda hard to do these things Post 9/11, and all, since guess who controls banking and bank/credit card fraud….thats right kids, the NSA, your friendly lil hometown Homeland Security branch….
Which brings this question…..how’d the hell did he get it in the first place, and was that wreck really an accident? I hate a thief, and my God, he must have thought it to be an EBT card or something……
May 9th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
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StageCoach says:
I looked up the word “sleazebag” in the dictionary and found a picture of…
Oh, I’m sure everyone knows how that goes.
Allahver Fist @ 40: “Deserves to spend 6 months in jail the day after his football career dies.”
That would mean yesterday, correct?
May 9th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
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hobeg8r says:
@ 48 -
So, it’s 1 misdemeanor, 1 felony
But then his deferred prosecution for the 2007 incident now goes away because he violated the terms of his deferred prosecution. He’s facing more legal lproblems.
We lose 2 points – but gain back some because of his violation of the conditions for his deferred prosecution. That allows the State to seek a conviction on that charge.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
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Allahver Fist says:
#49, StageCoach
My initial fear is that his career, somehow, isn’t over. I’m still in fanshock. hobeg8r at #50 is easing my mind.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
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King Coeckman says:
That’s almost as classy as getting thrown out of a nightclub for repeatedly showing your ass to the bouncer.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
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socalbryan says:
That’s almost as bad as those kids that were just arrested for digging up a dead body, removing the skull, and using it as a BONG. No really, it’s true; check the news.
How did he get her credit card?
May 9th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
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zzgator says:
Another sign of what high gas prices will drive a lawya to do.
And while I agree it is reprehensible, the moral outrage meter is running a little high in here.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
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ChemE93 says:
A nomination for giving him the Ellis T. Jones Award now. He may not end up with the most points, but the individual achievement will not be matched short of a hit on a pregnant girlfriend.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
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Bobby Bowden says:
I’d sit him out for a half…let him think about it.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
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shane says:
This guy was a five star recruit on scout and a four star on rivals. UGA was among the many programs that offered Him, Richt dodged a bullet on this one, along with Josh Jarobe.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
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sonofsamford says:
Bama’s back!
http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2008/05/ua_football_walkon_charged_wit.html
May 9th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
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NativeSon says:
#44
Pants, you fuckin’ slay me. +!
May 9th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
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Ellis T. Jones, III says:
Some people have absolutely no class.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
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Erik says:
Extra fun update actually makes me feel sick.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
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Because They Can says:
An uncomfortable, disgusted rimshot to #27….What’s in your wallet?
I think this is the creepiest thing since that bunch who decided not to bother fixing the crematory.
May 9th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
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Jonathan says:
Wow and his major was… Social & Behavioral Sciences.
Sounds like a great program…
May 9th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
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V says:
If true (and I can’t see how it wouldn’t be true) this is embarrassing beyond words. What kind of low life character would do something like this?
May 9th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
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Turf says:
Two notes —
(1) He rang up $3000 on a BP Gas Card in six months. Wow.
(2) Even with his hair up like it is in the photo, how’d the hell did he pass for being a girl named Ashley Slonina?
May 9th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
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Bob Red says:
This stuff happens. No big deal. She wont have to pay for it.
May 9th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
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hobeg8r says:
According to the Gainesville Sun, he used the credit card a total of 70 times over a 6 month period – 33 of those times occured while he was home in Jacksonville. He had been previously suspended 5 games for selling his student tickets. That was on top of the deferred prosecution for the assault. I guess he needed the money. Since it was a fleet card, I can only suppose that is how he got away with it so long. It is tragic for the family to be victimized again (after their daughter’s death)….and probably the end for him.
May 9th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
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EufaulaPete says:
That, friends, is a scumbag.
May 9th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
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Joe says:
#44 explain to me how the moral outrage meter is running a “little high” for Mr Tales From the Crypt?
Stealing from the dead, not to mention your teammate’s deceased girlfriend. Think about it.
May 9th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
70
mastergator says:
Wonder what Jamar scored on his SAT … “tree fiddy”?
May 9th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
71
Brian O'Blivion says:
#69 – the moral outrage over this is completely over the top.
Take a look at the Fulmer Cup entry on this site when a BC football player broke into an apartment and forcibly raped someone. Do you see anything close to what’s on this post? I don’t.
Which crime would you say is worse? While using a dead person’s credit card is reprehensible, it’s not even in the same ballpark as rape. Maybe it’s because no one cares enough about BC, or rape isn’t as unique of a crime, I don’t know. But from the posts here, you would think Hornsby committed a more heinous crime.
May 9th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
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Clever Moniker says:
While this is extremely creepy and strange, my gut instinct tells me it’s somehow not near the same level as a rape or shooting, which does harm to humans. I’m sure the parents are mortified, but they wont be covering the bill. Hornsby = Creep x 10, but it still is just money. Just saying
May 9th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
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socalbryan says:
71,
I agree.
May 9th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
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Steve says:
OK, some people make a stupid, evil decision one time. For this they deserve to be put away for life if the facts so warrant. However, at the same time it is usually one action often without real planning, which in at least some cases they show remorse over.
However, when someone intentionally does something illegal 50, 60, 70 times, it adds another dimension to the whole thing. While the crime itself may be much less offensive than some others for which football players have been charged, the fact that it was done repeatedly can raise it to almost that level.
May 9th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
75
Urban Meyer says:
If a guy makes a mistake, does that make him a bad person? No. Any disciplinary action is going to be a result of what I find out on the legal side of it. We’ve just got to fix a problem. It could be worse. I could give you the names of some schools that are really struggling. The Gators aren’t. We only recruit the top 1% of the top 1% at Florida. Did I mention that Tim Tebow does missions?
May 9th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
76
Erik says:
No, objectively it’s not a terrifically serious crime. The fact that he stole the card from under his teammate’s nose while pretending to be helpful… that’s the part that is a little bit horrifying.
I can see assault, or even rape or murder, as a crime of passion. Horrible, and you deserve to get locked up for it, but I can imagine how the human mind can warp itself into committing such an act.
The way this kid pulled this off, though, is just sociopathic.
May 9th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
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dawgfish says:
I won’t sit here and say why rape and assault and other fulmer cup entries are not so bad, but the creepiness factor here really beats anything else. I agree @ 71 that maybe its because rape is seemingly so common among athletes, which is sad, but a gut, visceral reaction to all of the little details of this story (how he got the card being a real kicker) make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.
May 9th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
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Year2-Dave says:
He’s gone from the team: http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/10819728/rss
May 9th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
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Mr. Wrong says:
OK, it’s Pile on the Gators Time.
But really, Nancy? “Horrifying”? “Sociopathic”? Some of you might want to get out of your cubes once in a while. If this makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up, then you should probably avoid Third World countries, children’s cancer wards, and Detroit.
Hornsby is a sad, stupid human being, and one of the worst teammates ever, apparently. The worst part is probably the nasty jolt the girl’s family must be feeling, their public grief re-animated suddenly. He’s off the team and good riddance. I hear Raiford’s nice in the summer.
But, yeah, some of you are a good bit over the top.
May 9th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
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shane says:
Orson is a Gator, along with many that post on here. Most of the rest of us are SEC fans. Yes what the BC player did was awful, but it’s different when shit happens in Your own back yard. That is why some post may seem over the top.
May 9th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
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Andy Axelotl says:
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May 9th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
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Futbawl Fan says:
the guy using the credit card is just plain sad, a little dumb… and a little funny
kinda like the guys using some dead kids’ skull to smoke ganga from in TX… it made me laugh, but it’s just plain sad
May 9th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
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TAFKAtOSUB says:
I hate to bring this up in light of the given situation, but I think it is worth noting that Florida and LSU have combined to beat the shit out of Ohio State 42-2 in Fulmer Cup Points. So who’s really winning?
I guess the hardware comes with a price.
What a bizarre story by the way.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
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Der Schatten says:
Creepiness factor: Way the fuck up there.
Grand scheme of things? The fleet has a carrier. And, even in the event they don’t have coverage for fraudulent charges, just look at the christ-damn billions written off by cc companies each year. $3000? Shit, that won’t make their accountant chilling in St. Andrews even blink.
So, to echo BoB, etc, and to reiterate myself: Jerramy Stephens wants to know what the big deal is?
May 10th, 2008 at 6:26 am
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NCT says:
Didn’t he use the card on something like 70 different occasions? It seems to me that each use may end up becoming a distinct count in his indictment. If that turns out to be the case, I’m sure Orson will do the honest thing and go ahead and declare that UF has clinched the 2008 Fulmer Cup.
And let’s hope the trophy is made of stuff sturdier than Waterford crystal, considering how careless those Gators are with tokens of their achievements.
May 10th, 2008 at 8:50 am
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alexhamilton says:
Wow. Looks to me like we need to rename the competition from the Fulmer Cup to the “Hornsby Award” given to an athlete that aspires to be a monumental, heartless fuckup like one of the proud Gaytors.
May 10th, 2008 at 9:26 am
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Mr. Pelican Pants says:
Looks to me, after he gets outta jail, South Florida or Jacksonville St. is gonna have a loaded football team with the addition of Hornsby and Perriloux…….and the rest of the cast offs from Bama……
Does Bruce Hornsby know what his kid is doing or does he accept the fact “that’s just the way it is…..”
May 10th, 2008 at 9:47 am
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Gatorgirl says:
The police in Jacksonville said they are investigating when he used the card in Jax and may bring additional charges against him here.
May 10th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
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SECSucks says:
A true Florida Man. Actually, this guy is the microcosm of SEC athletes. Way to go SEC.
Go Irish!
May 10th, 2008 at 4:18 pm