Comments on: SONG OF CRUSHING METAL AND FALLING WRECKAGE http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:41:45 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Papa Lou BSU http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-296865 Papa Lou BSU Mon, 05 May 2008 16:03:52 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/#comment-296865 Whatever one thinks of U2, you can't help but to tip your hat at the Zoo TV tour. Not many bands would be willing to tap an in-their-prime, full-of-post-L.A.-riots rage Public Enemy to be their opening act on the biggest tour of their own career. Many other bands would be fearful of being upstaged. (Although maybe they just wanted to enjoy the irony of 50,000 white kids pumping their fists along to "Shut 'Em Down"...) (That said, I'll still take the post-punk, steak-shredding guitar riff from "I Will Follow" over anything from the band's later eras...) Whatever one thinks of U2, you can’t help but to tip your hat at the Zoo TV tour. Not many bands would be willing to tap an in-their-prime, full-of-post-L.A.-riots rage Public Enemy to be their opening act on the biggest tour of their own career. Many other bands would be fearful of being upstaged. (Although maybe they just wanted to enjoy the irony of 50,000 white kids pumping their fists along to “Shut ‘Em Down”…)

(That said, I’ll still take the post-punk, steak-shredding guitar riff from “I Will Follow” over anything from the band’s later eras…)

]]> By: MCab http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-296814 MCab Mon, 05 May 2008 04:44:27 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/#comment-296814 Bullet the Blue sky is a painful song, in a good way. My fave U2 video is beautiful day, esp w/ the airliners flying over. Heck, I'd like a Ben Kweller song if it had jet engines over it (yeah, I'm dissing your anti-folk icon). Bullet the Blue sky is a painful song, in a good way.

My fave U2 video is beautiful day, esp w/ the airliners flying over. Heck, I’d like a Ben Kweller song if it had jet engines over it (yeah, I’m dissing your anti-folk icon).

]]> By: DevilGrad http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-296763 DevilGrad Fri, 02 May 2008 22:08:19 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/#comment-296763 Re #20: Having lived through the debate on campus, I'll note only that the "Sandalista" assumption that the majority of the population actually *wanted* a Communist revolution was equally silly. (And I was pretty Sandalista in those days.) (Side note bringing this sort-of/kind-of back to football: I remember driving around SW Ohio in 1989 and hearing Gary Burbank, the local radio guy, recommend that we solve the crisis in Panama by sending Boomer Esiason down there "so he can overthrow Noriega, too!") Re #20: Having lived through the debate on campus, I’ll note only that the “Sandalista” assumption that the majority of the population actually *wanted* a Communist revolution was equally silly. (And I was pretty Sandalista in those days.)

(Side note bringing this sort-of/kind-of back to football: I remember driving around SW Ohio in 1989 and hearing Gary Burbank, the local radio guy, recommend that we solve the crisis in Panama by sending Boomer Esiason down there “so he can overthrow Noriega, too!”)

]]> By: meatybob http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-296761 meatybob Fri, 02 May 2008 21:53:08 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/#comment-296761 “According to lore, the guitar part arose after Bono told the Edge to “put El Salvador through your guitar.” ”

Dear god, thats lame. BTW, I always thought that Edge was a Korean guy.

]]> By: DC Trojan http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-296760 DC Trojan Fri, 02 May 2008 21:33:54 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/#comment-296760 DevilGrad @ 19 - I'd say that Manifest Destiny and the Monroe Doctrine might have been based on some questionable views of "the other." Assuming that the Soviets would drive their tanks north from Managua and San Salvador was just silly. IIRC, the only time the Soviets tried to intervene in numbers somewhere they couldn't get to by train or tank - instead of using the local scruff like Uncle Ho - was air-mailing Cubans into Angola. That wasn't a runaway success, unless it was part of some fetishist's plan to create a population ready willing and able to take part in amputee beauty contests. DevilGrad @ 19 – I’d say that Manifest Destiny and the Monroe Doctrine might have been based on some questionable views of “the other.”

Assuming that the Soviets would drive their tanks north from Managua and San Salvador was just silly.

IIRC, the only time the Soviets tried to intervene in numbers somewhere they couldn’t get to by train or tank – instead of using the local scruff like Uncle Ho – was air-mailing Cubans into Angola. That wasn’t a runaway success, unless it was part of some fetishist’s plan to create a population ready willing and able to take part in amputee beauty contests.

]]> By: DevilGrad http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-296755 DevilGrad Fri, 02 May 2008 21:13:40 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/#comment-296755 They're supposed to be burning crosses and presumably (at the risk of going political on a Friday afternoon) a visual reference to lyrics challenging the implicit racism of the US's 1980s policy in Central America.** According to lore, the guitar part arose after Bono told the Edge to "put El Salvador through your guitar." _________________________________ ** Disclaimer: Despite my overall love of U2, I've always thought the political statements in this song were sentimentalist POLI 101 crap. But the guitar kicks ass. (Same goes for all Rage Against the Machine.) They’re supposed to be burning crosses and presumably (at the risk of going political on a Friday afternoon) a visual reference to lyrics challenging the implicit racism of the US’s 1980s policy in Central America.**

According to lore, the guitar part arose after Bono told the Edge to “put El Salvador through your guitar.”

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** Disclaimer: Despite my overall love of U2, I’ve always thought the political statements in this song were sentimentalist POLI 101 crap. But the guitar kicks ass. (Same goes for all Rage Against the Machine.)

]]> By: Last Dragon http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-296754 Last Dragon Fri, 02 May 2008 21:12:57 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/#comment-296754 U2 - incredibly overrated. Start throwing rocks....I don't care. U2 – incredibly overrated. Start throwing rocks….I don’t care.

]]> By: meatybob http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-296753 meatybob Fri, 02 May 2008 21:07:23 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/#comment-296753 Did they actually know there was burning crosses all over the stage? Maybe they are supposed to be burning stonehedges. Did they actually know there was burning crosses all over the stage?

Maybe they are supposed to be burning stonehedges.

]]> By: oc phil http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-296752 oc phil Fri, 02 May 2008 21:04:37 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/#comment-296752 The bass line on that song still sounds like Ted Nugent's "Stranglehold" to me. My best ever concert was Pink Floyd's "The Wall". But #2 was U2's Zoo TV tour and #3 was U2's "All that you Can't leave behind" tour right after 9/11. Prince was amazing at Coachella last weekend too. And I'm not even a Prince fan. The bass line on that song still sounds like Ted Nugent’s “Stranglehold” to me.

My best ever concert was Pink Floyd’s “The Wall”. But #2 was U2’s Zoo TV tour and #3 was U2’s “All that you Can’t leave behind” tour right after 9/11.

Prince was amazing at Coachella last weekend too. And I’m not even a Prince fan.

]]> By: jd http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-296739 jd Fri, 02 May 2008 19:56:34 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/#comment-296739 @carlin the released studio version was indeed from the joshua tree. however, i was referencing the video and audio from rattle and hum. @carlin

the released studio version was indeed from the joshua tree.

however, i was referencing the video and audio from rattle and hum.

]]> By: Out of Conference http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-296734 Out of Conference Fri, 02 May 2008 19:35:40 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/#comment-296734 Apparently if The Francis Gary Powrers Project had Hotblack Desiato on keyboards, then crashing the plane into the Soviet Union may have been more impressive. Apparently if The Francis Gary Powrers Project had Hotblack Desiato on keyboards, then crashing the plane into the Soviet Union may have been more impressive.

]]> By: Carlinthemarlin http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-296732 Carlinthemarlin Fri, 02 May 2008 19:31:46 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/#comment-296732 Wait; isn't bullet the blue sky <i>from Joshua Tree?</i> Wait; isn’t bullet the blue sky from Joshua Tree?

]]> By: Sundawg http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-296724 Sundawg Fri, 02 May 2008 19:07:52 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/#comment-296724 U-2; that was Francis Gary Powers, right? [speaking of old]. U-2; that was Francis Gary Powers, right? [speaking of old].

]]> By: DevilGrad http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-296723 DevilGrad Fri, 02 May 2008 19:03:47 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/#comment-296723 Okay, we now have defined the Swindle-DG generation gap, since there's no mention of the Boy-October-War era, earnest young wanna-be poet/Christian rocker Bono or the Unforgettable Fire period "holy shit, we can pack stadiums . . . and actually sound <i>better</i> than in small spaces" Bono. FWIW, the best show I ever saw was U2 at Wembley in 1987 with Lou Reed, the Pretenders, and the Pogues as the opening acts. (And that's even after agreeing with every good thing said above about the Zoo TV tour.) Okay, we now have defined the Swindle-DG generation gap, since there’s no mention of the Boy-October-War era, earnest young wanna-be poet/Christian rocker Bono or the Unforgettable Fire period “holy shit, we can pack stadiums . . . and actually sound better than in small spaces” Bono.

FWIW, the best show I ever saw was U2 at Wembley in 1987 with Lou Reed, the Pretenders, and the Pogues as the opening acts. (And that’s even after agreeing with every good thing said above about the Zoo TV tour.)

]]> By: jd http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-296716 jd Fri, 02 May 2008 18:21:27 +0000 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/05/02/song-of-crushing-metal-and-falling-wreckage/#comment-296716 naaaa-the version on rattle and hum was better. long live the mullet! naaaa-the version on rattle and hum was better. long live the mullet!

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