CURIOUS INDEX, 4/30/2008

It was “Tin Cup.” Honest.

If Caleb Campbell can pull in two guys into the academy, he will have done his job. They need numbers now more than anything and he will be a better asset in a highish profile position than if he were serving anonymously overseas.

This Caleb Campbell thing really bothers me.
He will be wearing the wrong uniform.

That picture of John Thompson from the Ole Miss article was downright disturbing. That man’s got xenomorph DNA in him somewhere.

#2
So, you’re saying that a man trained at the Army college wouldn’t be well utilized “overseas”. Him playing football serves his country better than using the tools West Point gave him to lead other Americans into battle ?
You might want to rethink that. His leadership could potentially save lives, not break up passes in the NFL.
I think this clause is ridiculous. Although it’s hard to fault hinm for utilizing a clause already in place., one might question where his head is.

#5
It’s not like he found some loophole, he’s following orders. The brass decided it’s of more use in the NFL than in Iraq. Are you suggesting that he ignore his commanding officer?
NFL > Army of One commercial.

@ 4

Doug, I hope JoPa doesn’t get a look at that head. It’s like a side of Kobe Beef.

About this Caleb Campbell story…I’ve realized over the years from having a roommate that went to Iraq, among other things, is that what I know about the Army could fill a thimble. So I’ll refrain from criticzing him, and just feel pity that he got drafted by the Lions.

Also, I think people need to stop criticizing him for his decision. The man went to West Point for four years, will still be serving his country, regardless of geography, and is a hell of a lot more than most of us have ever done for the U.S.

That said, I’m excited for how this Tuberville crime drama will play out.

delany is a scrote- deep down, just like all big 10 fans, he knows that midwestern football is subpar

I’ll see your iron jambalaya kettle and raise a keg of Abita Amber Swindle!!!

Don’t be surprized if the BCS Championship Game is televised on the BigTenEleven Network in two years.

Anybody ripping on Caleb Campbell, West Point or the Army who’s never worn the uniform should just shut the fuck up. There’s precedent for this, stretching back 20 years.

And the Big 10 is full of pussies, and is led by a total pussy.

I realize physical appearance has nothing to do with the justness of one’s cause, but …

damn, Delaney looks like a peckerhead.

You know what’s awesome about Jim Delaney?

Nothing.

Also, are he and Buzz Bissinger the same person? I’ve never seen any two people more afraid of new (and possibly better) ideas or mediums. You would think this much resistance to change would only come out of the South, but damn.

@12 – what precedent, pray tell? are you talking about Roger Staubach who served 5 years including tours in the Vietnam War? Or maybe David Robinson who was active duty for two years then in the reserves for many more (he was still in in the late 1990’s)? You’re full of shit if you think anything like this has been done before Army’s policy.

And before you pop off at the mouth, I am a service academy graduate who served 5 years active duty.

There are 10 applicants for every 1 slot in the average class at an Academy. If he brings 2 more people in, that’s just 2 more people out. It’s not like the service academies are having a hard time filling their classes.

Face it, he is following a policy that the army is using to skirt around a DoD directive that prohibits any grad of an academy leaving before doing at least 2 years active duty. Army is saying that spending a Tuesday afternoon recruiting is equivalent to serving active duty, which is bullshit. They just want a chance to bring in better athletes so they won’t get stomped by navy in most every sport year in and year out.

And while I didn’t have anything against campbell personally atfirst, him saying shit like “it’s my duty to play football” makes me lose respect for him.

Don’t forget that the Pac 10 is being just as obstructionist about this, it’s just that Delaney relishes being the public face of perserving the status quo.

Also, don’t forget the stupid anti-SEC missive he sent out last year that Orson so deliciously deconstructed. He’s a colossal jerk, and loves every minute of it.

MP

Delaney said that he could come up with a post-season playoff that the SEC and ACC and Big East commissioners wouldn’t support, so let’s not act like Delaney is ruining everything:

“I could put forward a revolutionary 16-team playoff idea that they couldn’t support. Eliminate conference title games and go back to an 11-game schedule.

“Have four sites in the Midwest and four in the Sun Belt, and the higher-seeded team hosts games. You could have games in Madison or Michigan. LSU would have played at Ohio State [in the BCS title game]. And eliminate the bowl system. I can create a system that would probably have support in the public and one that they would reject.”

Also a reminder, if there were a 4 team playoff last year, Georgia and USC would not have been in it.

It would have been Ohio State, LSU, Virginia Tech, and Oklahoma.

Everyone is fighting for their own piece of the pie, no commissioner is more pure.

1. I will guarantee his commanding officer didn’t say “go play football”.
2. Going to a servic e academy is not “serving your country”. I will agree it is a very difficult thing to do, but it’s not serving. Tax dollars paid for his education, which is a premium one.

For the record, I did 10 years in the Army, and met many officers that attended West Point. To a man, they wanted to be in the Army. That was their goal, and why they enrolled at West Point.

The Big 10 commish doesn’t want a playoff because he knows that his best 2 teams would face the SEC every year and get mopped. That’s a tradition he’s not willing to embrace.

Honestly, there were 4 maybe 5 SEC teams last year that would’ve beat tOSU. There were 5 maybe 6 that would’ve beaten tOSU in 2005.

Whatever you are smokin’ NAZT, you need to get rehab. The SEC is a good conference, but just because you lose a title game doesn’t mean that half of the conference could win also. BTW, the 2005 team held VY and Texas to 23 points (plus a safety), the only team to hold them under 40 all season. While the Buckeyes have had an inexplicable bowl record vs. the SEC, blanket statements like yours devalue your arguement.

NewAZTiger, congratulations on idiot post of the day.

I am assuming you would put Florida in last years list? The team that got drilled by Michigan. A Michigan team Ohio State drilled?

Your conference comparisons of outcomes of games never played are retarded.

The first time Caleb Campbell has to tragically attend a funeral for one of his classmates killed in action, will he change his mind? I don’t blame him for the policy, I blame him for accepting it.

I hope he answers his call to duty to “play football”, gets cut, and steps back into the Long Gray Line.

And when Army continues to lose to Navy, what then?

It’s time to call for a Rose Bowl Boycott! The Big10/Pac10 progress filibuster needs to be ended.

http://91screamingotters.blogspot.com/search/label/Rose%20Boycott

Perhaps Slive and Co. should start sending out not-so veiled threats of going out there own with 80% of the top 10 programs leaving the ABC/ESPN co-op with only the “MID-PAC League” to enthrall it’s viewers. Oh, and if that is truly how that meeting went with the overwhelming majority of conference reps backing down to that tool Delaney, shame on them! Way to enable the un-merited arrogance of the BCS beat down victims.

If Delaney weren’t such an arrogant guy and apparently doesn’t have that brain mouth filter, his points would come across better. As a Michigan fan I would not look forward to that system. Hell, I don’t look foward to the current system at times. It is such a good time on New Years if we end up in the Rose Bowl just to get hammered by USC on a neutral field that just happens to be in their hometown. I’m sure OSU was equally thrilled to go play against LSU on a neutral field that happend to be in their home state, or PSU against A&M in Texas, Illinois did the USC thing this year, and Michigan went to Florida to play Florida. At least I don’t have to worry about Michigan when they have to play the SEC, at least we can go down south and whip up on there whenever we get a whim, just can’t do that to any other conference. Sorry, was gonna keep it civil, but all the Big Ten shots forced my hand. Anyway, I would love to see the Pac 10 champ come to play the Big Ten champ every other year in Soldier Field in the middle of winter.

I don’t think that AZ Tiger has the idiot post of the day. Here’s how the conferences have fared in the BCS since 1998 (thank you wikipedia).

SEC 11-4 .733 winning percentage
PAC 10 8-4 .666
Big East 6-4 .600
Big Ten 8-9 .471
Big 12 6-8 .429
ACC 1-9 .100

The SEC is 3-1 against the Big 10. Now you could sell this that the SEC owns the Big 10 whenever they turtle out of the Rose Bowl but if I were a Big 10 fan I would prefer to point out that we have a record slightly above .500 against all other conferences.

Not a single SEC team could have beaten USC last year. Is that an acceptable statement Stephen? No it is just as absurd as guessing how many SEC teams would have beaten OSU.

I agree Brandon, let’s have a playoff starting tomorrow. Get rid of conference tournaments and have higher seeds play at home.

I am sure the SEC commissioner would sign onto a plan where he loses the income from the conference tournament, and his teams might have to play in 30 degree weather.

Now that I have ATT Uverse, I look forward to the first game on the Big Ten Network this season! Hopefully it will be as good as that inaugural September 1 game from last season that no one got to see. I also hope that Thom Brennaman broadcasts the game with Charles Davis. Oh sweet polly prissypants I hope it’s them. It’s been a lot of fun watching tOSU’s spring game over and over.

These Luddites like Delaney and that guy that wrote a book about 1980s Texas high school football are surely a spectacle to watch.

Re: Cambell

Attending West Point is not “serving your country.” Serving as a recruiter ‘part time’ is a dodge, and anyone who served in uniform knows it. Someone compared Roger Staubach’s service. Amen. I’ll add another.

Some years ago I served on active duty with a West Point officer who was a football star at his position When his four year commitment was almost up he tried out for the NY Giants and was immediately offered a contract. After reflection, however, he turned it down and continued his military service.

He was awarded a Silver Star for valour in the first Gulf War, has had two tours in Iraq and is now up promotion to General.

Of the two, Campbell and the officer I mentioned, which do you think has truly ‘served his country?’

Nuff said.

Sullivan013
MAJ, USAR (Ret)