A BRIEF STATEMENT ON BLOGGING: WHO WE (I) ARE
Buzz Bissinger just ripped on bloggers, including Will Leitch, who had to sit there and take it because, once angered, no amount of reason would get through to the guy who wrote Friday Night Lights.
Bissinger has no idea what blogs are about, though he may claim to. So in short, for the record, we thought we might state for the record a.) who a blogger might be, and b.) what blogging does. Ready? We’ll keep this short.(For an epic poem or Supreme Court ruling–ed.)
A. Who a Blogger Might Be, or in this case, me.

My desk: taste the glamour.
DURR-HURR! GUY WHO LIVES IN MOM’S BASEMENT DURR!!! Untrue. We know of only one one blogger who lives in Mom’s basement, and that makes him just like Mike Lupica, doesn’t it? (Mom! Meatloaf and the Mets game on in five! MOM!) The bloggers we know best do the following;
1. Will Leitch. Full-time writer. Lots of people read him. Not mom’s basement on the address.
2. Matt Ufford. Ditto, and ditto. Has roommates, I think, but still. Oh, and COMMANDED A FUCKING TANK UNIT IN IRAQ. Buzz Bissinger went to Phillips Academy, a very dangerous place in its own right. They ride English saddles there! There’s not even a horn on it for stability!
3. Big Daddy Drew. Likewise, successful before becoming a sports blogger, and would be even if the medium didn’t come around.
4. The guys from Fire Joe Morgan. No idea what these men do, because they cover American Cricket, and I therefore don’t obsess enough about them to follow up. Fortunately, neither do mainstream journos, none of whom have inquired into blogger’s backgrounds before accusing them of living in Mom’s basement. I assume, judging from the brawny machinations of their writing, that they could presumably do other jobs quite successfully without going on the maternal dole.
5. Lawyers. Most post under pseudonyms, but these people make up the rank and file of the blogging world. Why? Because they are bored to tears by their jobs despite being creative, articulate, argumentative, and passionate people. Give a dam an outlet, and it’ll crack mountains into silt. That’s what lawyers are to the blogosphere. None of them live with their mothers, and many make more than the sportswriters who accuse them of living–yes–with Mom.
6. Me. Yep, I’ll go there. I’m not in the august company listed above, but I get paid to sit at home write while occasionally going somewhere else to write. I’ve been a vagabond professionally, and for a stint in late 1999 to June of 2000 I lived with my in-laws, but other than that horrific crash after post-collegiate backpacking I haven’t lived with my parents during that time. (Perhaps a sensible person would have given the often dire circumstances, but I didn’t.)
How does a person get to do this? And think this sick, perverted way about sports? Easy. I know sports doesn’t fucking matter. At. All. It’s dada, a delightful distraction, something not to be underestimated in its importance, but in the end the gravitas wasted on the Masters or the World Series or the BCS Championship game is just that: wasted, and deliberately so. If most people were to pay attention to the really, really important things in life, they’d spear their eyeballs out with cocktail forks and go stand over there in the tryout line for Equus.
Distraction is a necessity in life. I’m not questioning that. What I question is devoting such seriousness to it, as the Alboms, Bissingers, and other Brahmins of sportswriting would have it. (Back off, Kornheiser and Wilbon. You have no part in this fight, being normal people seemingly unwarped by access and privilege.)
I get ahead of myself. First, me.

Look, dorky-lookin’ 31 year old white guy. I took three pictures for this, and this is the worst one, which is exactly why I chose it: fat cheeks, slightly walleyed, hairline running for Canada, still in my prissy workout shirt especially made for working out and stuff.
But not behind a shroud, or hiding. In fact, my phone number is public record. Dial a common Atlanta area code, and then dial 668-5092. There’s my phone number, live and on the internet. If a mainstream journalist has a problem with anything, they may call it. I work with Matt Hayes at the Sporting News now, and I once called him a dick in print. He has no problem with what I do, because he emailed me, we exchanged virtual winks, and now it’s all kosher. Email Matt, too: he actually answers his, unlike some people.
I’m not good-looking, either: Rainn Wilson crossed with Jack Black is the best way to put it. I’m fifteen pounds overweight but not unfit. I ran a half-marathon in November of 07 before my right knee said “FUCK THIS SHIT” and went all runner’s knee on me. I’ll be married in ten years in June 2008. I make above the average American wage, which in and of itself is a bit of a crime. I have love handles even if I work out two hours a day, and I talk too quickly at all times. If drunk, I may have the slightest bit of an accent.
I grew up in Franklin, Tennessee and have one sister and one brother. Off and on, because Dad was in the restaurant business, we lived in Atlanta (four years total) Columbia, South Carolina (one yearish, too young to remember,) and Palm Harbor, Florida, remembered most fondly as “The Place Where Someone Let Us Have Sex With Them For the First Time. Thank you, Father Finnegan, for the favor!)
Religion/politics: I grew up Catholic and dropped it because religion, like some combinations of biochemistry and antibiotics, does not react with my system at all. It’s a big house where I wear uncomfortable sweaters and get bored to the point of anger: that’s church, and will always be church for me. No atheist evangelism, no rage: it just doesn’t catch, and never has. I’m a conservative Democrat, meaning my political decisions are easy: I hate everyone, and pay society to leave me the hell alone.
Education: bachelor’s at Florida, full ride because I scored well on the PSAT and turned in some paperwork. Magna cum laude in English with a focus in cultural studies because I loved to read beautifully written French literary theory in between drinking 12 packs of Miller High Life, lifting weights, and playing matches of Mario Kart lasting longer than some cricket matches. Master’s degree from Georgia Tech in International Affairs because I was in my mid-twenties, bored, and tired of working with refugees and breaking down in tears in the detergent aisle at Publix for no reason.
Career, or something like it: I got out of college and taught a year of ESL in Taiwan. In 1998. At the heart of the internet boom. Yes, all the money’s gone now, but at the time it was career suicide to miss out on the dot-com trough feed. I swallowed vocational cyanide in the name of adventure because a guy I worked in a warehouse with in college said it was good money, and because I left a stupid piece of paperwork out of my JET package to teach in Japan.
I thank Allah/Xenu/Matsu/Cthulu/Jesus for that, too, because I got to do things in Taiwan I’d never done: overdose on betel nut laced with methamphetamine, convince Taiwanese schoolchildren all foreigners were scary, huge-headed monsters with hangovers, and get into a motorcycle wreck and go through a 6.2 earthquake all in the same year. Have you ever been asked if your chest hair will interfere with an X-ray? Didn’t think so, Jay Mariotti. Suck it.
Then I traveled. I went to a lot of places, and smoked weed in all of them while getting horrendously drunk. All of it was an immensely good time. I learned nothing about humanity from this, though, lest you think I’ll get preachy backpackery on you. I do know this: foreigners think dorky-looking white guys want hookers, and on the fly like now, laowai. I’m married and was at the time, so I didn’t have the chance to contribute to the local economy in this fashion. But otherwise, I’m their target audience.
Oh, and Asia rules. It’s like having your head next to the engine casing of the world when you’re there. At first, the roar makes you nauseous and mad from lack of sleep. After a year, you start to crave it. When you leave it, everything else seems forever quiet and too devoid of neon, exhaust fumes, and people asking embarrassingly personal questions.
When I did learn something about humanity is working with refugees. That’s what I did in stints from 2001 to 2007 at two different agencies. I learned that people are mediocre, and that on the whole, the ones who survive ordeals like the Rwandan genocide, the Balkan conflict of the mid to late ’90s, and Iraq, Burma, Afghanistan, Somalia, and whatever other God-smote shithole you care to plug in here are the most annoying, the most sociopathic, or simply the most noble, hard-ass people you have ever met–or combinations thereof, really.
I started writing the blog as a hobby in 2005. It got out of hand when I couldn’t stop writing it.
So in short, that’s who a blogger can be. Not mom’s basement. Not a trustafarian peeling off posts from the house my inheritance bought for me, and not a lone hack who doesn’t answer a critical email. I answer about 80 percent of my emails, including the one from the guy three years ago who suggested I never put a word down again, because I was unfunny, untalented, and horrible. All three may be true, but you can’t stop a dog from licking its balls, and you can’t stop someone from writing about something he loves, even if it’s the kind of love a graffiti artist has for the train he tags.
(And remember: not living in Mom’s basement, professional journalists.)
Part two is coming up, and it will be shorter, we promise: what bloggers do. Then I’ll end the pedantry and get back to writing a mock-crime drama starring Tommy Tuberville.









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bankmeister says:
well said, sir. all of it. well, except for the part about foreigners thinking dorky white guys want hookers on the fly. coulda used this information earlier; i like contributing to societies.
April 30th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
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Eirishis says:
Clap. Clap. Clap.
More later. Right now, must confirm my Group 5 status by doing marginal studying for my final final.
April 30th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
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NativeSon says:
Orson,
I come here for fucklions, Thighsman Awards and That Dog. I’m here for Barner v. Bammer threadjacks, chainsaw dicks and The Fulmer Cup. It’s my connection to anything and everything that is interesting in the CFB’osphere. And, other than hating on ND, what’s more entertaining than a fucklion?
Play on playa, play on.
April 30th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
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hunglikehussain says:
Re: The writing area
So, a hundred years from now when this becomes a National Historic site, tourists will be able to see where the characters of Haley Lafontaine and Subcommandante Wayne were created.
And instead of six-toed Hemingway cats, the outer gardens will have ball-licking dogs.
April 30th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
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SecondCityHoya says:
Deadspin now has the video of Mr.Buzz going off on Will Leitch and let me just say this: Mr.Buzz may be the most unhappy man in the world. Beats out anyone you can think of: IED maker who accidentally blows his nuts off, Obama after the last outburst by his Rev, Wesley Snipes’s accountant, Heath Ledger’s stunt double,etc..
And Mr.Buzz looks like the kind of guy who hangs around playgrounds with one hand in his pocket.
April 30th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
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Cock D says:
Are there hookers in Hyderabad? I have been here 7 weeks and still havent found a strip club….
April 30th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
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Out of Conference says:
Well point, Orson.
Damn, there are a lot of lawyas on here. Like holy shit damn! This thread is like seeing a roach and pulling the sheetrock off the wall to see the extent and seeing thousands more. Just damn.
April 30th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
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maskedavenger says:
OOC – Don’t make us angry. You wouldn’t like us when we are angry.
April 30th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
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Snowflake the Dog says:
We are legion.
April 30th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
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Jdtobe says:
“Lawyers. Most post under pseudonyms, but these people make up the rank and file of the blogging world. Why? Because they are bored to tears by their jobs despite being creative, articulate, argumentative, and passionate people. Give a dam an outlet, and it’ll crack mountains into silt. That’s what lawyers are to the blogosphere. None of them live with their mothers, and many make more than the sportswriters who accuse them of living–yes–with Mom.”
Amen. Most suck, but a few are excellent. You have to read http://www.philalawyer.net. Supposedly, the author has a book coming out. It really is amazing.
April 30th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
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Rob G says:
I’ll have the JD in a week, but I’ve decided not to practice. So I’m 1/2 a Group 5, a Group 2.5, if you will.
April 30th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
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Taylor says:
Bravo. Orson, you do a great credit to the blogosphere, even when putting down my beloved Irish. Oh, hell, they deserve it most of the time. Truly, this is one of the most inspired blogs on the net, and I’ve been reading for a good two years now. Keep at it!
April 30th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
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Vol says:
You’re an interesting guy, even for a Gator. And yes, being a lawyer can be maddening.
April 30th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
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hunglikehussain says:
Just watched the Costas interview with Will and Buzz and felt the need to comment. A point was made about the “gratuitous pot-shots and mean-spirited abuse”. I see his point. Quotes such as “fuck-face is a douchebag should be censored not due to its juvenile profanity, but because nothing entertaining or informative is being brought to the discussion. I applaud the “Swindle Industries” code of ethos/pathos/logos inclusion( c’mon Orson don’t tell me that you haven’t censored some comments.) “We” all have done that in an anonymous fashion, which we would not repeat face to face with said individual.
One of the reasons I am a fan of this site, is that
pot-shots and abuse are done with a humorous bent and could not in all seriousness be considered libel. I have also been pleased with the good-will and cyber-comrademanship of the other commentators. Black bile that was espoused today, is forgotten tomorrow (DC Trojan…the expectation that you can change the mind of someone over thirty is nil. Coop, I admire your tenacity and ability to defend what is essentially a second tier program.)
Orson, I was privileged to see the late Lewis Grizzard in person and suffered from dehydration (tears) and abdominal pain (laughter trauma.) You do the same…same genre (south, football, egotistical pride mired in athletic nonsense, rednecks, and every known psychological illness that has metasticized from undue adoration of college football.) To paraphrase…..It’s entertainment, nothing more…nothing less. Go on the speaking circuit, write a book consisting of your best “editorials.”
Damn, who knew that Opus 1 and Digiorno thin crust could be so enlightening.
April 30th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
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A.J. says:
Great column–there are also those who are in law school, already regretting their career decisions and trying to make the most out of boring classes.
April 30th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
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winstongator says:
Does bleeding orange and blue count as a credential? What actual credentials on PLAYING sports does Wilbon, or even someone respected like Gammons have? Apologies for the American cricket reference. Leitch also had an extremely well written blog from the NEW YORK TIMES from last baseball season. Bissinger needs to STFU. Did Bissinger ever read Ball Four? Does he know more than Jim Bouton? Have they ever been to a sporting event – abusive fans? Who’d f’in imagine.
April 30th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
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winstongator says:
Costas might have wanted to point out that Buzz’s Pulitzer is not from sportswriting.
April 30th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
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Harris says:
So can I call just to say hi? I’m home by myself all day and, oh God, I’m just so lonely.
April 30th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
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eleventy says:
Awesome. Post.
Thanks for putting into words, what the rest of us could only stab at doing.
April 30th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
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PSUGuru says:
Just two observations:
1. You use your tongue purtier than a two dollar whore!
2. To those few of us non Group 5ers floating in this fine body of water……..”We’re gonna need a bigger boat”
April 30th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
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Ed says:
This “missionary” of which you speak…does it have to do with bunda positioning?
Good on ya, Senor Swindle. You, too, TCOAN.
April 30th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
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LA Lakers Blog says:
haha, good read… witty and clever, i couldn’t help but laugh at some points!
May 1st, 2008 at 1:24 am
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Cock D says:
Two points I want to make regarding Buzz’s statements:
1) Buzz is a fuck-face and a douchebag who doesn’t get it.
2) Perhaps Buzz (and Wilbon) fail to realize the high level of disdain for the corporate media, both in sport and political coverage. I can speak for many when I say that over the last 10-20 years the fourth estate has become more of a PR mouthpiece than an objective observer and reporter of events. While there are still some real journalists out there who are digging up stories (Kudos to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette’s work on uncovering the unearned MBA awarded by WVU to the daughter of the WV Governor… maybe they can investigate the Rich Rod situation and shed some light there), increasingly it seems that the writers simply take a release from a business or government official, make some pithy alterations and publish a piece as “news” rarely, if ever, taking a position that may upset the corporate or governmental powers that be. The whole first four years of the current Bush administration operated like this with Time and Newsweek simply publishing ideas and photos distributed by the Pentagon in the rush to war without ever challenging the information or independently investigating. The same thing has been going on in the sports world: writers who have access do anything they can to keep that access and turn into mouthpieces for the organization. The writers covering the Pittsburgh Pirates are a perfect example of this. Despite 15 straight losing seasons, every pre-season write-up has a rosy hue and even when they are 20 games under 500 at mid-season, the talk is of the few tweaks needed to have a successful second half(!!!). The weenies that cover the team are too chicken-shit to call out any real problems for fear they lose their access to the team plane, the buffet and the right to sniff the jocks of the players. Mark Madden is a great example of what happens when one takes a (debatably) controversial position against the organization: after criticizing Hines Ward and the Steelers for an autograph session at which Ward charged fees starting at $175, the Steelers curtailed his access and successfully pressured a local TV station to take him off the air (or they would cut the stations access). Now how in the hell can one expect a fair, objective press that will raise issues in that kind of environment.
That kind of situation makes it perfectly clear why the new generation of “real journalists” who wear the badge of “muckraker” tend to work the internet. If reprisal is the reward for doing real journalistic heavy lifting, it only makes sense to do that writing in guerrilla fashion until such time as ones bona fides are established.
Moreover, the mainstream media’s general attitude towards their responsibility, which seems to be “hos gotta eat too”, has left many viewing them as something between feckless victims and willing collaborators. Either way, the respect for them has waned greatly in years – look at the general disdain for ESPN anymore. 15 years ago, ESPN was the greatest thing since sliced bread: edgy, funny, always on. I never missed a SportsCenter. But now I can hardly sit through one. Sometime after Disney came in, it all seemed to go to pot. The good talent left and was replaced by half-assed imitatiors; decision-making seemed to be done by executive committees rather than talented writers and producers; the talent that stayed even became arrogant (Berman, I’m looking at you). And so now there are sites dedicated to taking potshots at all of the above: heroes turned villains through the evolution of what we once held dear. A loss of innocence in a way.
This all comes back to one simple point though: as fans of sports we have become disenchanted with those who cover sports and how they do it. As nature abhors a vacuum, we have filled the space with bloggers like Brian Cook at MGoBlog who provide insightful analysis and have dropped reading Drew Sharp. We read EDSBS for general CFB news and some great humor instead of a half-assed half-page section of newspaper that only talks about ND and a local school or two.
What the sports media need to realize is that their product is too broad, too lazy and too slow for the modern sports consumer. 30 minutes online gets me everything I want to know about Michigan, Penn State and general college football and with more laughs than 90 minutes of SNL and an hour of Sports Center could ever hope to provide.
Yep – it sucks to be the dinosaur, I guess.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:56 am
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Cock D says:
Oh – please remember that since I am merely a commenter on a blog, any ideas, thoughts or feelings that I may have expressed are utterly devoid of any value or use and that I should just stick to masturbating and playing Grand Theft Auto in my mother’s basement.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:57 am
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MiseanAUFan says:
“By the way, grown men who are called “Buzz” can pick the lint out of a performing monkey’s asscrack”
Even astronauts?
May 1st, 2008 at 6:07 am
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sb says:
Group 5 here, too. My clients require an attorney that has found a way to remain well-adjusted and relaxed in the face of all the world throws at us…and this blog enables just that level of calm…so I bill for it and they pay for it. Everyone is happy.
And I like O.’s ability to pen such wonderfully colorful terms as “pudendal confidence”, “bullshit geysers” and my favorite…”pulling a phantom peanut of sublimity from a steaming turd of reality…”. These and inumerable others illustrate a descriptive ability that keeps my keyboard lubricated with spewed coffee.
And, it provides another reason to be proud of the Gator nation…and its sickness which infects all who attend with an intensity and version of football crazy non-Gators just don’t get.
And, after O.’s lengthy missive, we see the wizard behind the curtain…and he is us.
May 1st, 2008 at 8:27 am
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The Managing Partner says:
Get your asses back to work!
May 1st, 2008 at 11:03 am
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Bobby Decatur says:
Oakhurst? Maybe, slightly possibly Avondale or actual Decatur.
May 1st, 2008 at 11:41 am
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kt says:
I admire Coach Bryant. There you have it Bammers.
That being said, Bryant was smart enough to know when he went to Texas A&M and then later to Alabama that you have to buy the media. If you get the media on your side then everything else is easy.
Bloggers can’t be bought. I personally tried to buy off Orson to stop writing anti-Auburn posts but it didn’t work.
BTW Orson, I thought that EDSBS Auburn Tag was supposed to be hanging in your office. You lying sonofa……
May 1st, 2008 at 12:02 pm
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HymanMotherFuckingRoth says:
Group 5? Check
Thinks Buzz doth protesteth too much? Check
Filled with unchecked rage, occasionally punctured with Guffaws at the hands of Orson or BDD? Check, bitches.
“I’d give four million just to be able to take a piss without it hurting.”
May 1st, 2008 at 12:26 pm
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The Conscience of a Nation says:
The tag is prominently displayed on another shelf outside the picture, KT.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:16 pm
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kt says:
Thanks Conscience of a Nation!
May 1st, 2008 at 1:23 pm
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sb says:
Managing Partner @ #127…my ass is at work…and I, too, am a managing partner…but just prior to checking your comment I was contemplating the conquest of my hott lesbian bhuddist psychic…still wondering about the best way to approach her…through the bhuddist angle or the psychic angle…the lesbian aspect is intriguing although the most difficult because my plumbing isn’t her first choice. Nice that I can create billable hours out of just about anything. And as my hott LBS would say “Isn’t being human simply amazing?” Yes, darling, it is!
May 1st, 2008 at 2:26 pm
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YeeMum says:
Bravo.
This is a hot subject – some very well written blogs with some very reasonable responses.
Write On
May 1st, 2008 at 4:39 pm
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kt says:
…intensity and version of football crazy non-Gators just don’t get.
This is slander! I’ll see you in court counselor!
WDE!
May 1st, 2008 at 6:15 pm
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sb says:
kt @ #135… that would be libel, as it is written defamation and published, while slander is spoken and disseminated or broadcast… however, if you are not in the class of those who are somehow harmed by said malicious misrepresentation you have no standing…that said, that was my favorite line of the day, and for noting it I thank you.
I apologize, kt, for that didactic foray back into law school…after a couple glasses of a Lyeth Meritage (the evening’s libation from yesterday’s birthday) and the discussion of a nasty property matter with a new client my (thankfully) hidden talent as a law prof slides past my usually normal demeanor and raises its pedantic head.
May 1st, 2008 at 7:09 pm
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KT says:
kt @ #135… that would be libel, as it is written defamation and published, while slander is spoken and disseminated or broadcast… however, if you are not in the class of those who are somehow harmed by said malicious misrepresentation you have no standing…that said, that was my favorite line of the day, and for noting it I thank you.
I apologize, kt, for that didactic foray back into law school…after a couple glasses of a Lyeth Meritage (the evening’s libation from yesterday’s birthday) and the discussion of a nasty property matter with a new client my (thankfully) hidden talent as a law prof slides past my usually normal demeanor and raises its pedantic head.
I’ll be danged…:-)…..give me your mailing address. I’m gonna send you a retainer…..for something…..
Can I sue Bama? Do you handle divorces?
LOL!
Enjoy your evening, sir.
May 1st, 2008 at 9:25 pm
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Big Ten Joe says:
Well, an excellent and meaningful post again, Orson.
Yes, I am a Group 5 type too. What 48 and 76 said (kind of). I actually liked most of my work as a trusts and estates lawyer in a Very Big Firm. However, my conscience didn’t let me bill for other-than-arguably-matter-related work, and so it was often a struggle to enter 8+ honest-to-goodness billable hours a day even if I was in the office an average of 10-12 hours a day, particularly juggling (usually) more than half-a-dozen files each day with individual clients who, even when wealthy, tend to be a lot more fee-sensitive than corporate clients.
The breaking point for me was, along with the birth of our second child, sitting in a war room going through documents on yet another beautiful Saturday afternoon, trying to listen to what was to me an important college football game on a radio with staticky (sp?) AM reception, working on a huge T&E litigation case, while the people whose mess I was cleaning up almost assuredly were not sitting in a fluorescent-lighted, drab-walled room worrying about whether a particular memo is protected by the work product doctrine. More likely they were either at the game I wanted to watch or on a boat somewhere. That was 3-1/2 years ago.
Now I work in the nonprofit world and am much happier, if financially less well-off. When I work a 10-hour day here, it’s considered impressive as opposed to meeting minimum expectations. And now I have time to do things like go to college football games, spend more time with the family, volunteer with more organizations, and not worry too much about having to stay at work another [0.75, 1.0, 2.5, whatever] because of Internet pleasures like EDSBS.
Just wait ’til I start my blog.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:54 am
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Patrick says:
Group 5 here, as well – all three of us at Curveballs. Kind of amazing that there are so many lawyers out here, and I had never really thought much about it either way.
May 5th, 2008 at 9:41 am
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Bill Shannon says:
You gotta love a guy who talks about “perfecting the written word” and then uses the phrase “pisses the shit outta me.”
May 5th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
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cyclonestate says:
I HATE JAY MARIOTTI. i heard he got fired, which is great. he is a blemish on the chicago community.
September 19th, 2008 at 9:46 am