STUFF RED AND BLACK PEOPLE LIKE
The EDSBS staff decided the “Stuff _____ People Like” had gone soft. So we therefore bonded over the one thing Tennessee fans and Florida fans can both crack out the sharp, stabby knives over: Georgia, a.k.a. Red and Black People, who ironically take their colors from two shades of people horribly oppressed in this very state. And no, it gets no nicer from here, and yes, we live here and love it.
Past installments may be read here, here, here, here, and here
Mandals. Don’t want to wear socks, but don’t want to look too gay/hippy/liberal with Jesus sandals? Rock yourself some mandals, Red and Black person. It’s just all part of that “laid-back groove” thing you’ve got going on. Or being horrifically lazy. They’re both Red and Black People concepts you’ll see pass through time and time again here.

Obviously not a real Georgia fan, as he’s not wearing white ankle socks with them.
Gwinnett County. Georgia has famously only traveled to play a football game somewhere else once, and it was to Atlanta to play Georgia Tech. Little known fact: every “road” game you might have seen the Georgia Bulldogs is in fact a simulation created by the Georgia Tech School of Computer Engineering, who does the work as a contractor for the University of Georgia. If this seems unusual to you, consider that Tech owes Georgia for the vicious but humorous practical joke of playing Reggie Ball at quarterback for four years (record: perfect! 0-4.)
Gwinnett County embraces everything UGA fans could want: a featureless wash of broad roads, convenient fat/grease repositories, and 4BR/3BA houses strewn wantonly on stultifyingly boring land kinda sorta halfway between Athens and the necessary evil of Atlanta. Red and Black People will often brag fervently about not leaving the county for months, sometimes years at a time, ‘cept for the obligatory odyssey 40 minutes up the road to Athens, where kids have “just gotten too weird for my tastes, frankly.”
The love for Gwinnett County is balanced by a horror of all things Atlanta, including repeated warnings to “stay away from downtown!” You might catch black, gay…or worse still, Techie.
Cryogenic sleeping chambers. Red and Black people, it is our fervent hope that you lavished affection on your mothers before they reached the peak of ripeness, because they are now lost to you forever. At the age of thirty-five, the pancake makeup comes out, the hair goes “ash blonde”, and Georgia women cease to age for the next fifty years, until an errant grandchild kicks them in the shins and they shatter into a thousand frozen shards.
Methodism. You call that half-assed sprinkling “baptism”? Our God is an awesome God, but a brahsome God wants your ass in the creek risking parasitic infection or mercury poisoning for His favor. And they do baptize babies, but we all have our trials to bear. Who says the South is a hostile environment for minorities?
Least they ain’t Catholic! Shine on, wee oppresséd starlings; SHINE AWN.
Widespread Panic. At least the Grateful Dead inspired such loyalty as to make their fans put getting to the show above hygiene: “Panic,” the universal beige hippie batik audio fabric behind almost all young Red and Black people events, is a noodle-y jam band so piss-poor their fans actually bathe and go home after the shows. In fact, Panic–and it’s “Panic,” never “Widespread Panic,” doesn’t even ask their fans to do so much as do that twirly hippy dance prevalent at all jam band concerts.
In fact, Widespread Panic doesn’t really demand anything from their their fans except the purchase of a ticket and a prone position on the grass. If you’re noticing a theme: Red and Black people are astonishingly lazy, and demand that their music be given to them in a tasteless, formless, and shapeless musical suppository taken aurally while lying prone on the grass of an ampitheatre.
Dude! Eighth solo! I’m SOOO high. Fuck you, Widespread Panic, because you have an all-organic, flabby, vegan-fart-smelling miserable weedstink all your own. We have recurrent fantasies of Dethklok’s huge stage landing on a Panic concert and crushing everything in sight, leaving only Tevas and kind of floppy haircuts in its heartless wake as testament to the crap.
Pardon us. Dethklok already did just that.
Add the Panic sticker to your Ford Explorer so Dethklok can identify you for killing. Just having the “W: the President” and Bass Pro Shops sticker isn’t enough, as you may be confused for any other Southern college student.
Outlet Malls. Yesterday’s fashions today! You’ll find the Georgia landscape littered with pink and seafoam green compounds giving country mice a taste of CITY LIVIN’ at 10-40% off retail.

No, we’re not walkin’ to the Old Navy. It’s ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE PARKING LOT!
Goatees: Mostly for the older men. Like the finches of the Galapagos, the mustache changed its shape under evolutionary fashion pressures. (If you went to school in Cobb County, just insert “JESUS TOUCHED THEM WITH HIS GENETIC CHANGE-O-STICK AND MADE ‘EM DIFFERENT JUST CAUSE AND THAT’S WHY HE MISSED THAT WHOLE RWANDA THING SORRY BOUT THAT.”)
Somewhere between 1986 and 1989, the mustache became an unacceptable familiar of highway killers and serial rapists, mostly because most highway killers and serial rapists did indeed seem to have mustaches. This brought forth a dark period for mustachioed men: what to do? Sail on ’til the world spins my way again fad-wise and go against the grain of social convention, or–heavens!–shave.
Fortunately, a savior arrived.

And because Stone Cold said so, the goatee took an unlikely step away from the “facial hair of choice for Ministry fans” to “the mustache with a basement add-on.” You know this is true for one reason, Red and Black people: your church’s youth pastor has or had one. It also “covers” a weak chin, meaning it “makes every one notice how you grew a goatee to hide the slack flap of skin between your lower lip and Adam’s apple.” Only the chinstrap beard screams “compensatory facial hair” more than the closely trimmed goatee, and yours is most definitely closely trimmed, Red and Black person.
White rappers besides Eminem.
Bud Light. In a coozy, motherfuckers. (Your pastor heard you read that!) You can drink four hundred of these in a weekend. So can anyone else, but you’ll tell everyone exactly how many you drank, because Red and Black People are beer accountants of the first degree. Also, in keeping with the extreme laziness of Red and Black people, Bud Light comes in unbreakable bottles you may throw directly on the beautiful green lawns of the UGA campus. (Seriously, it’s gorgeous until game day.)
Bud Light, while preferred, is not perfect. Only when it comes with pull-tab spouts on the bottom of the bottle will perfection arrive, as gravity will do the work formerly done with all that strenuous lifting of the hand to the mouth by the arm.
Black guys, and not black chicks. Black dude? No problem. Seriously man, no problem. Hell, if my sister slept with Knowshon Moreno, I’d take pictures and tell her not to use birth control. Her vagina would at least put up more resistance than Florida did last year. Black dudes are cool. You can even take ‘em to Panic concerts! They just groove right in. No problem there.
Black chick? Um, can I be real honest with you? Their hair freaks me out, man, and I’m afraid they’ll laugh at my penis when I get naked. But Knowshon can bang my sister. Any day, man. Her hoo-hah is his endzone, and I’m signalling a score with both hands in the air, like “WOOO GO DAWGS! SIC ‘EM ROO ROO ROO ROO ROO!”
Baseball caps with frayed bills. Mandatory. Should look like a wolf has been nibbling on it.
Golf. Lazy strikes again. Red and Black people choose, as their primary sport, the indolent form of horseless polo that plagues this state: golf. And if forced to choose between walking around the “natural” contours of a golf course or watching football, we tell you this, football fans: there would be trepidation in the ranks.

Golf: it sucks, and Red and Black people love it.
Consider all of the key ingredients contained in golf: doing very little, drinking shitty beer, and wearing golf shirts. Triple score, Red and Black People. The slavish worship given the Masters–a course started as a tax dodge by wealthy New Yorkers in the 1930s and run by assholes who wouldn’t let lowly plebe you take a solid gold shit on the course–actually diminished the attendance of the spring game for years.
You may also pee outside and it’s totally acceptable. This is another thing making golf irresistable to Red and Black people. (Editor’s note: we’ll endorse this aspect of golf. Especially peeing on your fellow golfer mid-swing. “Hey, they turned the sprinklers on early!” Hilarious!)
One way head: A.K.A, the Athens Frat guy special: he gets it, you give it, and then the whiskey ends the evening. Judging from the trials of our single friends in Atlanta, this sexual phishing scam extends well into adulthood.
QuikTrip. It involves buying cheap gas, having minorities wait on them, and purchasing sugary beverage and beef jerky. All are TOPSCORE for Red and Black people.
Dickies. Yes, the red ones. Red and Black people enjoy remembering exactly one thing to accompany every event or turn of events. Football game? Seal bark: “ARP! RED PANTS!” LSU fans? “ARP! CORN DOGS!” Florida fans? “ARP! JEAN SHORTS!” Atlanta? “ARP! DON’T GO DOWNTOWN ARP!” This whole post? “42-30 ARP!” The uniform consistency of responses is seal-like, and will win you bar bet after bar bet with strangers who doubt that any one group of people outside the Midwest could be so homogenous in behavior and belief. ARP!
Hemp necklaces: Hippie, and not gay. Thrown away the instant you start interviewing for clerkships in law school, a sad moment because, you know, that kinda skinny blond girl gave it to you.
With the cap, the sandals, and the option of growing floppy Bama Bangs (brand-neutral name? ‘Brah Blinds), it’s all part of a carefully composed “casual” look that lets people know you are in “college.”
Boiled peanuts. Holly put this one on here like it’s a bad thing, but we adore boiled peanuts. No foul here, even with the stuttering crampy shits boiled peanuts inevitably give you in the 24 hours following consumption. Get me a Bud Light–don’t forget the coozy!–and we’re snacking and macking, man. And seriously, if your pastor walks by, we’ll hold the beer.
Chik-Fil-A. Double bonus on good things Red and Black People like, because we start off every morning of every day craving the battercrack of Chik-Fil-A. Including Sundays, when you churchy little nancies take the day off to “spend time with family” and “not make me the goddamn chicken sandwiches that we start shaking if we don’t eat at least one of a week, YOU HEARTLESS BASTARDS!!! A REAL GOD WOULDN’T LET THIS HAPPEN TO ME WHEN I WANT IT ON SUNDAYS!!!”
TCOAN is fond of asking me if we want Chik-Fil-A. The answer is always yes, and then a quick glance at the calendar reveals it’s Sunday. She smiles, and then goes back to reading her book. This is how you break a man one snap of the bone at a time, reader.
Herschel. All 237 personalities of him.
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CK- Derby thoughts coming next week fo sho, but the preview is that it’s one of those years where it’s totally wide open.
CHG- I’ll take your wager, but only if it can be for $1 billion or more, as I wholeheartedly disagree. I understand some of what you are hinting at, but after living in NoCal for 3 years, I a) see it alot more, but more importantly b) the reaction here is that no one really cares, not nearly as taboo here, and you don’t feel every set of eyeballs staring at you with unspoken vehement disapproval when you are in public. I have seen that here in SF but also in Sacramento and all over NoCal. It’s Cali, man- here’s it’s all about live & let live, do what makes you happy, etc. For fuck’s sake, when I wore 2 earrings in ATL people looked at me funny, whereas here if you want to be a punk lesbian with a green mohawk and 49 piercings in your face no one really gives a shit, it’s all about do what makes you happy as long as you aren’t harming others.
After 15 years in the South and 3 here, I really can’t see any argument that the South is more socially tolerant than CA, not by 1000 miles.
It’s probably not a discussion for here anyways, so I say let’s just agree to disagree.
Comment by Kanu — April 24, 2008 @ 3:48 pm
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Having folks from Tennessee and Florida poke fun at our sense fashion and lifestyle is like having a retarded kid call you stupid.
You just have to smile and nod.
Comment by Jarvis — April 24, 2008 @ 3:48 pm
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You guys are starting to get old… I’m seeing some stuff that I havent seen since I was a sophomore in ‘03. Widespread isnt that popular in Athens anymore. And for those that love it, they usually are not football fans. Budlight is nasty. Athens is the home of Terrapin, most delish of microbrews. Athens has a great beer scene. I think this article aims more at the “lives in the state of Georgia and roots for UGA but never attended the school” red and black folks than the true consensus.
That being said:
Chic-fil-a is like crack obv.
red pants are everywhere on gameday
Caps with frayed bills - in college I was guilty
and I almost fell out of my chair laughing when I read the hemp necklace entry because that exact scenario happened to me.
Comment by The Dash — April 24, 2008 @ 3:42 pm
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Don’t red and black people also like to harbor terrorists?
Comment by Zier Master — April 24, 2008 @ 3:37 pm
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OK, I just asked you not to wear pants. That’s what we call an alleyoop pass, son.
Comment by Holly — April 24, 2008 @ 3:35 pm
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@89
Worst place to eat.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/15504814/detail.html?rss=atl&psp=news
Comment by hunglikehussain — April 24, 2008 @ 3:30 pm
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Not wear red pants?! Seriously? That’s like telling a bird not to fly, or a fish not to swim, or a tiger not to turn back into a Chinese dude at midnight.
Comment by Doug — April 24, 2008 @ 3:28 pm
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The Dunwoody Dawgs (female type) I know are more reef wearers than rainbows…the reefs are available in almost any designer color thus making them match any accessory ensemble.
Currently drinking a Chick-fil-a Arnold Palmer (diet)…to wash down the spicy, grilled Chick-fil-a sandwich…must be my Orange and Blue person beach-consciousness showing…
Comment by sb — April 24, 2008 @ 3:18 pm
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Was “Methodism” a typo? Many more Baptists than Methodists, and several references to hiding alcohol from ministers seems to indicate you’re talking about a Baptist crowd.
Kanu, I’d wager there are more black-white couplings at UGa and most other campuses you mention than at most universities in the SF area. The people of SF are quite happy with the “good diversity” in one area and the “bad diversity” all the way across the Bay, but still close enough to make them feel sanctimonious good about themselves.
EffinDane- I say this (painfully) as an alum and lifelong fan of a South Carolina. There are maybe a half dozen universities that can unquestionably look upon UGa’s football history with complete disdain. If you don’t GAS about UGa, you probably don’t GAS about cfb. FWIW, most of those schools are either inferior to or in the same ballpark as UGa academically.
Comment by Chg — April 24, 2008 @ 3:11 pm
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Doug, I’ll make it up to you if you promise not to show up wearing the red pants.
Comment by Holly — April 24, 2008 @ 3:11 pm
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also, Kanu.
We need a paragraph or two on dodgyatbest about your Derby thoughts.
Cheers.
Comment by CK — April 24, 2008 @ 3:06 pm
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“convenient fat/grease repositories”
Best place to eat in Gwinnett: Vreny’s Beer Garden.
Comment by mb — April 24, 2008 @ 3:04 pm
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Damn you Swindle!
Your site took my frowny face and turned it into a fucking emoticon. Even worse, there’s no option to delete my comment.
The shame, the shame…
Comment by Kanu — April 24, 2008 @ 3:01 pm
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I would also like a kiss…especially since I attended University in Hollys favorite state.
We were somethin’ back in 1899……
Comment by CK — April 24, 2008 @ 3:01 pm
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@CK 83
Not to worry, I’m locked down and happily so. {PAC 10 girl, too}. Also, my rooftop is now closed thanks to the cypher lock installed by the owner
Best of luck to her- it’s a great city & area.
If she’s Southern, then:
1) There is a Chick Fil A in a town called Fairfield, which is 40 miles north of SF, halfway up to Sacramento. It’s inside the Solano Mall, right off the Travis Boulevard exit on I-80, and they have real deal sweet tea. There are also 4 CFAs in Sac.
2) Roadhouse BBQ on Geary & 2nd in the Inner Richmond ‘hood has legit southern sweet tea, and damn good Southern BBQ as well.
Comment by Kanu — April 24, 2008 @ 2:59 pm
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One more thing Red and Black people like: Not taking a joke. Holly, I’m disappointed, you should’ve included that.
Comment by Doug — April 24, 2008 @ 2:57 pm
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They don’t mean YOU!!!!!!!
True. Except for Coop. I mean you, Coop. Kisses!
Comment by Holly — April 24, 2008 @ 2:55 pm
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This is not directed towards UGA people or anyone in specific….but…..why can’t you motherfuckers take a joke? They don’t mean YOU!!!!!!!
It’s. A. Joke.
These are unreal…please keep them coming…
also..Kanu, my sister moves to the Frisco in a few weeks…..Behave yourself…..i dont need any more Kanu Cam shots of you on the roof with your precious bud light cans showing the “killer views” off to my sweet innocent sister……
Comment by CK — April 24, 2008 @ 2:49 pm
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i’m surprised to learn that crimson and cream people have so much in common with red and black people…mandals, goatees, widespread panic, outlet malls (though ours tend to get hit by tornados), one way head…
but i must take offense with one portion of this post, orson–QuikTrip (Tulsa baby, whoo!), is, without a doubt, the single greatest convenience store in the history of consumerism - it transcends school rivalries - those lucky enough to live in states with a QTs know what i’m talking about
during my three year post-grad stint as a blue and gold person, the things i missed the most were edible BBQ (fuck you, indiana), attractive and/or slutty women, and QuikTrips
Comment by okiedomer — April 24, 2008 @ 2:43 pm
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I went to UGA for undergrad & grad school, and most of this was kind of foreign to me, but perhaps I’m not representative being that I was not born & bred in Georgia and many of my friends in college were out of staters.
I went there in the 90s, and things that come to mind that you forgot: Duck Head shorts, wearing Republican candidate stickers/buttons to games in election year autumns, and the frat uniform when I was there was: khaki shorts, long belt with end tied off and/or hanging down, polo shirt, grungy corduroy “Aspen” hat to advertise to the world your family’s superior vacationing status, black plastic rimmed sunglasses with Croakies, often not even worn but hanging from neck.
Anyhow, here’s the scorecard: 3 {golf, CFA, HW34} out of 19:
Mandals: never, not with socks or without. Adidas soccer flip flops.
Gwinnett County: lived there for 1 year {Chamblee-Tucker, motherfucker!} in an apt, not a fan.
Cryogen: my mama’s a yankee with a degree from BU, so not so much
Methodism: nope, not my thing.
Panic: hells no- weak sauce. B52s are pretty weak and REM is totally hit or miss.
Outlet Malls: ocasionalmente, pero there are outlet malls in every state, no?
Goatee: nevah.
White non Emimen rappers: BS is okay at best
BUD LIGHT: Are you fucking kidding me? I wouldn’t drink that if I walked in your house and you offered me one for free. Nasty- like shit flavored vitamin water.
Black Guys/Black chicks: I’m down with whatever, and have dated outside my ethnicity and nationality. But you are spot on about the scene in Athens, and the overwhelming feeling of taboo about interracial dating in Athens, but the exact same thing is true in Tuscaloosa, Auburn, Knoxville, Columbia, Lexington, or any other major school in the deep South.
Frayed hats: god damn I hate frayed hats, jeans, and the rest, ESPECIALLY when you see them in the store pre-made to look like that. But again, you nailed it as far as the Athens scene.
GOLF: guilty as charged
One way head: nevah, but next time you are in San Francisco Swindle…
QT: gas only {remembers fondly pating $0.87 a gallon at QT on Ronald Reagan Parkway [in GWINNETT of course] in 1998}.
Dickies: Funky pants yes, but Dickies should be a last resort. But you totally nailed it.
Hemp necklaces: nope.
Boiled peanuts: perhaps the nastiest tasting thing on Earth, but you nailed it, UGA folks & Georgians in general love ‘em.
CFA: hooked on that shit like a crackhead without hope, resigned to his fate as a lifelong junkie
Herschel: before my time, but of course.
Comment by Kanu — April 24, 2008 @ 2:34 pm
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Overall well done. I was afraid you were going to attack the dearth of graphic designers in my fair state. I mean really, this area has more rotten-ass pieces of plywood leaning against mailboxes advertising tomatoes, sweet potatoes, honey, free puppies, jelly, p-nuts etc. than anyplace I know.
An enterprising lot we are.
Comment by hunglikehussain — April 24, 2008 @ 2:29 pm
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Yeah Skinny, Gatornation is just devastated today. Murray saw a three-deep 5* QB depth chart and decided he had a better chance of playing sooner in Athens. My God, why do we even continue the program? All is lost! Delusional dawg fans are always good for a chuckle.
Comment by Teej — April 24, 2008 @ 2:25 pm
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Stone Cold is wearing Jorts.
Comment by MackDuff — April 24, 2008 @ 2:25 pm
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No, Ryno, we didn’t cut and paste from Obama’s website. Notice at no point did we mention change, happy unicorns of change, or bitterness.
We need no cribbing on bitter. That comes naturally.
Now excuse us. We’re going back to our latte and The Economist, thank you very much.
Comment by Orson Swindle — April 24, 2008 @ 2:23 pm
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There are pictures of mandals on Obama’s webpage? No wonder he lost PA…
Comment by Will (the other one) — April 24, 2008 @ 2:19 pm