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CURIOUS INDEX, 3/17/08


Jim Delany, eat my poo. Whole plates of it, please. February 9th, 2007:

I love speed and the SEC has great speed, especially on the defensive line, but there are appropriate balances when mixing academics and athletics. Each school, as well as each conference, simply must do what fits their mission regardless of what a recruiting service recommends. I wish we had six teams among the top 10 recruiting classes every year, but winning our way requires some discipline and restraint with the recruitment process. Not every athlete fits athletically, academically or socially at every university. Fortunately, we have been able to balance our athletic and academic mission so that we can compete successfully and keep faith with our academic standards.

The Ann Arbor News is running a four-part examination of athletes and academics at Michigan, and in sum it sounds just as dodgy in terms of boutique majors stuffed with rote learning as any other major school in any other major conference.

You made academics cry, Michigan! They're only supposed to do that at Juno and right before their tenure review, dammit!

With the fall term drawing to a close, Jay Basten monitored students taking his final exam in Sport Management 111, a course at the University of Michigan.

During the essay test last December, one undergraduate - an athlete - caught Basten's attention.

"I could tell by the look on his face, and also based on the work he had done previously in class, that he had no clue what to write," Basten said. "It was a 50-minute exam, and he probably wrote three sentences."

Basten said the experience almost brought tears to his eyes. But the full-time kinesiology lecturer added that watching a Michigan student-athlete struggle is not an isolated occurrence.

The details shouldn't shock, even for an august academic institution like Michigan. We're more than comfortable with the notion that BCS grade college football is at its core a professional sport operating under the aegis of academic institutions. What is--oh, just piquant, we tell you!--is that we get to tell Jim Delany to dine on poo, because his conference's flagship athletic/academic titan, doing it "the right way," has to resort to the kind of academic funneling done at legendarily accomodating schools like Auburn or USF.

They don't read the NYT Leisure Section in between sets, either. Larry Asante says Nebraska's making a bit more of their time in the weight room this year, meaning they're lifting weights less like you, and most definitely not thumbing through their iPod while deciding whether or not it's gay to use the hip adductor machine.

“(Last year), we had a long time between sets. Everybody would take five minutes between sets. It’s like rapid fire (now). You do everything boom-boom-boom-boom. It’s nonstop. And once you enter the weight room, you’re not allowed to leave the weight room until you’re done.”

Asante, who can't finish this one tricky shoulder move, plans on leaving the weight room some time in the next three weeks. Until then he's licking the condensation from the pipes and eating PowerBar scraps from the floor. BTW: hip adductor machine, not gay, but watch the shorts, man. No one needs to look up from their leg curls and find themselves staring at your manpurse sagging from the leg of your pants.

The debate over the next Reveille rages on at Texas A&M:

The idea of choosing a mascot based on how 'tough' it looks is also problematic. Many breeds today face legislation because of these perceptions. We should not promote these false ideas by choosing a mascot based on what dog breeds are seen as vicious. Vicious' breeds such as American Pit Bull Terriers and Dobermans make excellent, loving companions in the hands of a proper owner.

We reiterate: adopt Flex-o-mutt, the double muscled whippet/Bicep Terrier! Pleasant whippet disposition, horrifying steroidal physique!

Failing that, see if you can find a mastiff with this genetic quirk. Because nothing says Texas to us more than a double-muscled mastiff.

Noel Devine say his misdemeanor assault charge was, of course, a misunderstanding. Most things involving someone threatening you with a bottle are.

That's a lot of taffy. Les Miles wants more taffy, please. $3.75 million dollars of taffy. LSU bring him taffy. Les happy with taffy, says taffy shows much respect for Les Miles. Les eat damn fine taffy. Les happy.

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Do I laugh now…or wait until Rich Rod oversigns like hell next year?

Quick question..Do you think the WWL will blast LSU for paying the most for a coach..or is the hatred reserved only for CNS?

by CapstoneAlum on Mar 17, 2008 9:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mike Slive is probably too busy hiding from Va. Tech basketball fans to read all of this Michigan brew-ha-ha, but I’m sure he’ll let out a meek chuckle or two once he hears the news.

by TideDruid on Mar 17, 2008 9:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Jim Harbaugh ever wrong?

by okiedomer on Mar 17, 2008 9:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, isn’t that Barry Bonds’ dog?

by MorningBeer on Mar 17, 2008 9:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That Dog thinks the above animal is so huge because of successful antebellum breeding programs.

by Harris on Mar 17, 2008 10:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously Orson, this is at least the second time you’ve mentioned crying while watching Juno. While I’ll agree that it was an excellent flick, I can’t remember any tear-inducing scenes.

Although There Will Be Blood and Atonement both caused me to cry tears of boredom.

by PW on Mar 17, 2008 10:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PW—

You have no heart. Therefore, we totally recommend No Country For Old Men, which is badass to the core. Any movie with a chase scene involving a dog that will swim to come and bite out your ass is a movie we endorse.

Also, we cry at particularly moving laxative commercials. (Pun!)

by Orson Swindle on Mar 17, 2008 10:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jim Delany’s the Real Snake Oil Salesman Around These Parts

by 3rd on Mar 17, 2008 10:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am sure you’re bringing it later O but not a single mention of St. Paddy’s Day? I love it. It’s like tailgating, only in March – and you’re usually in a bar and you’re not really tailgating. Anyway, Happy St. Patrick’s Day. I went ahead and posted the obligatory Dropkick Murphy youtube at my site.

by Picture Me Rollin on Mar 17, 2008 10:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s coming, but if you think we’re posting anything but the Pogues, you’re mad.

by Orson Swindle on Mar 17, 2008 10:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Delaney: “Not every athlete fits athletically, academically or socially at every university.”

He’s right. Not every athlete wants to get fucking rolled two years in a row in the MNC game or the Rose Bowl.

by Out of Conference on Mar 17, 2008 10:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Harris @ 5 – first LOL of the work week, sir, nice work.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2008 10:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OOC @ 11 – Based on that stadnard, maybe Oklahoma needs to leave the Big 12 and join the Big 10.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2008 10:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OOC @ 11

 Something your school has never had to worry about.

by Crabapple Buck on Mar 17, 2008 10:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“this ain’t auburn, its the #1 psychology dept. in the country”.

Big whoop. Auburn puts men on the moon and invents things daily to make practical day to day living better and safer, and UM has the number one psychology department in the country.

What does that do for anyone? Help you figure out who is nuts and who is not?

Southerners figure that out on thier own by the fourth grade.

by kt on Mar 17, 2008 10:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FC update….lots of assaultin’ going on at CU.

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=383976

by Brian O'Blivion on Mar 17, 2008 10:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

KT-

Putting men on the moon might not be the best thing to compare to UM. Remember, we created the “Space, bitches” commercial.

by JLo on Mar 17, 2008 10:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dear Michigan,

  Please take your “Michigan man” crap and your “high academic standards” and shove it up your ass. Preferably sideways. Rot in hell and take Delaney with you.

Fuck off and die,
The Rest of the Big Ten

by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Mar 17, 2008 10:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“Is Jim Harbaugh ever wrong?”

Is Pete Carroll still at USC?

by MiseanAuFan on Mar 17, 2008 10:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was a GSI at Umich, and there were plenty of non-athlete UGs that had no clue how to write in the first place, let alone how to answer an essay question. Hell, I had students that were utterly dumbfounded to find out reading (READING!) would be required of them in a mythology course. UMich has stellar grad school programs, but their UG is pretty similar to every other big, decent public university.

by meg on Mar 17, 2008 11:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

btw, this news about Michigan academic standards is nothing new to us Domers, as we’ve been telling our employees from Ann Arbor for years that the only difference between Michigan and Michigan State is a full set of teeth

by okiedomer on Mar 17, 2008 11:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Most public undergraduate programs at major universities are sub par. This is because these universities need massive amounts of tuition money to fun their massively awesome research and graduate programs, which in turn is what they’re really pimping when they talk about academic standards. If you want to see undergraduate standards in action, go to Stanford, but don’t expect to see good football.

by Carlinthemarlin on Mar 17, 2008 11:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

also two previous CU arrests before these latest:

http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=88266

by fattus on Mar 17, 2008 11:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point, #20.

In my experience as an undergrad and as a Grad Instructor, undergrad classes are all the same. The 3 kids who really care, the 5 who are pissed off their parents are forcing them to be there and the other 22 who are there but totally focused on last night’s/that night’s/tomorrow night’s party or trying to figure out how to score with the hottie 2 seats in front of them. The only thing that changes from university to university is that some of them drive nicer cars.

by CKGator on Mar 17, 2008 11:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Does Jay Basten teach in the law school too? It might explain the whole Ann Coulter thing.

by Mike and His Four Noble Truths on Mar 17, 2008 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mr. Delany? I have Governor Spitzer on line 1. He’s calling to thank you for making him look like a…well, whatever the opposite of a fucking hypocrite is.

by Expat Ohioan on Mar 17, 2008 12:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1, the WWL won’t because LSU pulled a tricky maneuver called paying for services rendered. When you pay $4 million for crap, you get called on it. When you pay whatever LSU is going to pay for a coach that just one SEC and MNC titles, it’s called capitalism, the American way, getting what you paid for.

by LSUJoshua on Mar 17, 2008 12:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and I can’t even begin to examine the brainless, idiotic statements of Delaney. Talking with a Bama fan is about as stupid as my mind downshift.

by LSUJoshua on Mar 17, 2008 12:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

#26: Wouldn’t the opposite of “hypocrite” be “hyper-crite”?

Whatever, Sundiata Gaines gon’ be cuttin’ down the nets in San Antone, bitches.

by Doug on Mar 17, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, Michigan refused a home and home with Auburn.

I guess we’ll just have to Chop-Block those MF’ers in swimming.

by NewAZTiger on Mar 17, 2008 12:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

#27
Joshua
I honestly hope for you and the good people of La. that this move doesn’t turn out to be like Bama awarding Mike Shula a raise and a contract extension after a 10-2 season. I would hate to see the bayou on fire.

by CapstoneAlum on Mar 17, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good to hear, Orson. Just finished Hell’s Ditch and If I Should Fall From Grace With God is on deck.

I boo myself for not bringing Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash to work though…

by Pants McPants on Mar 17, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Carlinthemarlin @ 22 – A friend of mine got his phd from Indiana and when he was t.a.-ing freshman classes was stunned to be told that they were expected to fail up to 25% of the class. Apparently anyone can roll in to Bloomington and enroll, so they had to clear house aggressively in all the freshman intro courses.

As for Michigan, who knows? My father in law teaches there and he doesn’t seem unduly distressed by the undergrads, but then he only has to deal with the great unwashed when he takes his turn teaching generalist courses – most of his seminars are ones that you don’t end up in by accident.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Crabapple Buck @ 14 – Touche. I should have covered my flank by adding the Outback Bowl. Nicely played, sir.

by Out of Conference on Mar 17, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Auburn may have put a man on the moon, but also, unlike say most other schools, had players that couldn’t read (see Brooks, James.)

by Will (the other one) on Mar 17, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know it’s twice as long as the Unabomber’s Manifesto but you should read it all…

Yet Basten can’t help but express concern for some of the athletes he teaches in his introductory courses, and worry about how they’ll fare as their academic careers at Michigan continue.

“I actually went to study table a few times because kids asked,” Basten said. "A lot of these kids, their reading levels couldn’t have been higher than sixth grade, seventh grade.

“I had one guy ask me what the word ‘bureaucracy’ meant, and how to sound it out. I was thinking: ‘How do they survive?’ I don’t know.”

by kt on Mar 17, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“As for Michigan, who knows?”

Michigan has competitive admissions for undergrads. Generally, a 3.5 and 1250 SAT for instate and a little higher for out of state (non-athletes obviously) and you are in the ball park to be admitted.

by maskedavenger on Mar 17, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DC @ 33. As a former TA at tOSU I can laugh at failing 25%. I heard that the attrition rate for freshman when I taught there was over 50%. Trying to run a research university with the admission’s standards of a community college is not a wise way to go about things IMHO.

Avwenger @ 37. Good numbers but not as good as they would have been in the past given horrible grade inflation and the renorming of the SAT.

And admisson standards don’t tell the whole story about students either. Back in my migrant worker days, I found that I could give the exact same exam to a night class at a community college (with open admissions) and a morning class at a State University (with moderate standards) and the CC students would do better than the University students on average.

by oc phil on Mar 17, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like Michigan did what the New York Times tried to accuse Auburn of doing.

by ChemE93 on Mar 18, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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