Comments on: CUTTING PLAYERS FROM SCHOLARSHIPS: A FAMILY TRAIT

By: carley jean

carley jean — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:51:11 +0000

I am sure if this was written by someone other than this kids girlfriend you all would be singing a different tune.

By: maskedavenger

maskedavenger — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:24:36 +0000

Brandent Englemon

By: maskedavenger

maskedavenger — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:16:42 +0000

Michigan basically guarantees four years of scholarship. The fifth year is a little more touch and go. The coaches will meet with the prospective 5th year player and discuss his potential to contribute that year. On occasion, some players are told they are not welcome back. If I remember correctly, Ryan Mundy was told that he would not be welcomed back so having already graduated he went to WVU (and ended up starting). I do know that it was dicey whether Brandon Engelmon, who regressed in his redshirt junior year, was going to be invited back (and he ended up starting this year).

By: SavannahDawg

SavannahDawg — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:11:24 +0000

I might have read both of these situations incorrectly but it appears as if in both cases the universities “used” these players for football purposes and in return both have received a “free” education with degrees to show for it. I use the quotations because some believe that college football players should be paid although I am not one of them. Another topic, another day. Neither is apparently good enough to make it as a profesional football player so where did the universities go wrong? If I fulfill my promise of giving you an education(both receiving degrees this year), then my commitment has been met. Right? Coop made an excellent point about just how much Clemson University has done for the brothers. I don’t know if his bad-mouthing of Ray Ray as far as indicating the missed meeting and such was neccessary but it still remains true of his ability to meet team standards.

By: Lane Fenner

Lane Fenner — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:55:08 +0000

Berniard was on the team four years and was never on the travel roster. I don’t believe he ever saw the field other than the field goal team. It was pretty apparent from his second year on that he was never going to be a factor. The coach that recruited him got fired and the coach that replaced that coach got fired. The writing was on the wall here.

The guy got four years of college including summers. He got a fair shake.

Rip Bowden for a lot of things, but this story ends the same way at any other school in the country.

By: The Big Dog

The Big Dog — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:01:29 +0000

Since when does an email from somebody’s disgruntled girlfriend qualify as the smoking gun? Proof that this guy got screwed? I mean, I know bashing the Bowdens is a favorite pastime here, but there is such a thing as taking something for what it’s worth. It is what it is.

So anyway, Martians have landed. Yeah, right outside my patio here. I’ll send you an email if you don’t believe me. I mean, I don’t have pictures or proof or anything, but if I say it in an email, it must be true.

By: Kevin @ Fanblogs

Kevin @ Fanblogs — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:23:08 +0000

The original scholarship offer is indeed a four-year offer, so — yes, a deal is a deal. The fifth year… that’s completely at the school’s discretion. There’s not even a molehill here.

By: oc phil

oc phil — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:32:17 +0000

#10 -O But is the deal for 4 years or 5? Even though most guys take 5 years, I think the framework is still a 4 year deal in most people’s minds.

Of course keeping non-contributors for a 5th year is the more honorable thing to do. But being honorable won’t call off the hounds if a team loses more than the fans think it should.

By: yoyofutbawl

yoyofutbawl — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:10:25 +0000

This happens in EVERY program. Sylvester cut three this year, including two who had started two years ago and were playing some this past year, enough to have lettered. But I don’t hear any howls about that.

This is a fact of CFB life. RR was bad pub, agreed on that.

By: blon57

blon57 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:06:25 +0000

I hear all the arguments that college players should be paid. I never agreed until a younger cousin was recruited and now plays in a D-1 football program. The time and dedication he has to put in…more than any law school grad I know. When you hear that essentially the player can have their scholarship taken away at any time on the whim of a coach, or essentially fired, it is reasonable to assume that they are paid employees of the athletic department.

By: ChickensRule

ChickensRule — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:37:57 +0000

#12

Only sunshine pumpers allowed to cover Tommy B’s team, huh. And JD wasn’t telling the truth, either?

Why not just let your SID cover the beat for the newspapers? Then all of the CU info would be accurate.

By: Coop

Coop — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:13:54 +0000

I agree with you all that, from a PR standpoint, this was downright idiotic.

I said as much yesterday on O’s post with the picture of a pair of scissors.

But, PR aside, there is a great deal of pertinent information that nobody wants to acknowledge.

And, I doubt Larry Williams will be on the Clemson beat for the P&C much longer.

By: Orson Swindle

Orson Swindle — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:06:43 +0000

And Meyer doesn’t cut players. He stares and points until they leave.

By: Orson Swindle

Orson Swindle — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:04:20 +0000

Hey, a deal is a deal, no?

By: Kevin @ Fanblogs

Kevin @ Fanblogs — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:03:07 +0000

There’s a considerable difference between pulling a scholarship and not bringing a guy back for his *fifth* year of eligibility. C’mon, Swindle.