RAY-RAY, CONT’D: A CLEMSON RESPONSE
Cut. There’s no other way to say it. An intrepid and very attractive reader actually emailed Clemson to express their outrage over Clemson withdrawing the football scholarship of Ray Ray McElrathbey. The response from Clemson’s Tim Bourret:
Dear ——–
While James Davis was not misquoted by the writer in the Charleston Post Courier story you must have read, James did not give an accurate picture of our scholarship commitment to Ray Ray. When the coaches met withRay Ray, which they do with all players, it was made clear to him that if he decided to remain at Clemson his scholarship would be provided. That includes a commitment from our Athletic Director that we would give him a graduate assistant position (that would pay for a Masters degree) within the Clemson Athletic Department after he graduated.
From a football standpoint, coaches met with Ray Ray and made it clear to him that he had four talented running backs ahead of him this fall. We have two of the top running backs in our program’s history currently on the roster and two of the top 10 running back signees in the nation are coming to Clemson this fall. If his future goals involve playing professional football, he needs to get on the field. If he is to get on the field, he needs to transfer to another program
But he has the option to stay here and have his schooling paid for through the next two and a half years.
McElrathbey declined comment, according to the Larry Williams article in the Charleston Post and Courier. We’ve got a call into Larry Williams, the writer who put together the piece, but something does trouble us: if the situation was more complex on both sides than the pat and simple answer of “Bowden’s booting him off the team to free up a scholly,” then why wasn’t that pulled out of the school on the first sweep of reliable sources?
Update: Just got off the phone with Larry Williams, who was more than happy to talk about the pieces, one on Sunday and one on Monday, that covered the situation. Williams isn’t quoted here, and any and all opinions are strictly properties of Swindle Industries, but he did answer our questions and clarified a few things here.
–First, Tim Bourret said as much in a statement yesterday, and was quoted in a piece today saying what he says above. Williams covered that as it came out, and did due diligence here.
–Second, the bit about “his scholarship” being honored is a bit of dodge. McElrathbey’s scholarship is already promised through August, when McElrathbey graduates in three years. They’re renewed year to year, and already promised. The real issue comes with the decision to shift McElrathbey from a four-year scholarship athlete complete with room and board and tuition paid to a grad assistant, a job requiring work in addition to any time he puts in on the field as a player. That is not fulfilling the term of a scholarship.
-Third: McElrathbey represents a nightmare for ambitious college programs, the prospect who doesn’t bloom and takes up a roster spot. He’s a running back sharing space with two blue-chip signees and James Davis and C.J. Spiller, akin to coming up with a few nice pieces of art while living just down the block from Picasso and Chagall. You lose, and it’s not your fault, though McElrathbey hasn’t, as pointed out in Sunday’s piece, been the most responsible player on the squad. (He arguably has more on his plate than most guys on the team, but that’s still an angle here.)
So you have a non-performer taking up spots on the roster. All judgment aside, you have two options: you can not renew the scholly, or you can keep him on and try to find some use for him. Clemson opted here for the first and came up with a concession to make things look less cold, extending a GA job to him to make things a bit less ruthless in the PR department. And hey, at least it wasn’t the SEC dancing on a pinhead re: oversigning this time. You might think this is big-boy football, etc; or you might think a school has a four-year obligation, period. Our guess is that this varies wildly by geography.












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Poor word choice on my part. My bad. Your point is well taken, but what I was trying to say is why wouldn’t any coach rather have Ray Ray on their team then punks like Vincent?
Comment by Mike — March 11, 2008 @ 5:56 pm
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How does one get their scholarship taken away if they have the opportunity to stay on full scholarship for another 2 years?
Now, you might argue that you wonder how one gets the opportunity to participate in football taken away from them…
but, for anyone to argue that someone is getting their scholarship yanked shows either laziness for not reading the relevant materials, or a lack of basic reading comprehension.
Comment by Coop — March 11, 2008 @ 12:05 pm
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Back in the day, Ray Ray’s parting gift would be a three year old Monte Carlo (from his signing day event). The young man did well for himself and his family. He walked away with a degree and a future.
BTW - the studs got El Camino’s.
Comment by I AM A MAN - I AM FORTY — March 10, 2008 @ 9:32 pm
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Cortney Vincent , who was already in trouble for DUI, got suspended for violating team rules for spring ball. But Ray Ray gets his scholarship taken away. Hm.
Comment by Mike — March 10, 2008 @ 8:02 pm
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Back in the day, Ray Ray’s parting gift would be a 3-year old Monte Carlo (from signing day).
Young man did well - chase that arena f-ball rainbow..
Comment by i'm a man... i'm forty — March 10, 2008 @ 7:47 pm
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#40 - send a picture when you get the ink done.
#39 - Exactly. If I had a full-time vendetta secretary, the remonstrance would already be on Specter’s desk.
Comment by Fesser — March 10, 2008 @ 7:39 pm
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“Wait, they have the internet in Eastern Kentucky?”
Yep. Runs on coal and mullets.
Comment by Mr. Wrong — March 10, 2008 @ 6:06 pm
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“The motherfucking Federalist Papers, bitch!”
That’s gonna be my next tattoo.
Comment by Mr. Wrong — March 10, 2008 @ 6:04 pm
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Re: anonymous internet posting article-
Wait, they have the internet in Eastern Kentucky?
I lived in Western Kentucky for a year 10 years ago, and to hear those folks tell it, there are places in EK without running water. Maybe that was just intrastate shitkicker rivalry smack to make then feel better about living in rural Western Ky…
Finally, It’s comforting to know that now that congress has solved all the country’s major issues, like Roger Clemens and the New England Patriots AV Dept, I guess Eastern Kentucky is ready to crack down on online bullying by anonymous internet folk.
Comment by Kanu — March 10, 2008 @ 5:56 pm
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John McCain & Russ Feingold have no time for the Federalist Papers or anonymous internet bloggers.
We’re next.
Comment by yoyofutbawl — March 10, 2008 @ 4:09 pm
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To pull in the 90s reset theme from a later post, it’s a shame about Ray, but not so much a shame about Ray Ray. It seems like kind of a non-story for me, if you take the position that an athletic scholarship to a university offers the opportunity to get a free education, which he did, and kudos to him for graduating in three years. Indeed, to suggest that Clemson’s obligation comes in the form of a guaranteed period of athletic apprenticeship would be a perversion of the idea of the scholar-athlete. (Granted, this idea gets perverted all the time in college sports, but the Bowden bashers do not have the moral high ground on this one.
And more important , in re #23 and the law against anonymous Internet posting, five words:
The motherfucking Federalist Papers, bitch!
Comment by Fesser — March 10, 2008 @ 3:52 pm
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Let me see if I’ve got this straight. Ray Ray gets a free undergraduate degree from Clemson. Ray Ray also gets the option of a free graduate degree from Clemson. Ray Ray also gets a foot in the door to the lucrative world of college coaching through the GA position. Ray Ray and Fahmar also have over 100K in a trust fund.
Where do I sign up?
Comment by swampfox — March 10, 2008 @ 2:36 pm
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#33
Actually it was, “Ooh, my arm! I think it’s broken” - Al Czervik
Comment by Mitch Cumstein — March 10, 2008 @ 2:23 pm
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Excellent, Biggus!
Comment by Out of Conference — March 10, 2008 @ 2:11 pm
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No arguments from me re: medical redshirts for Smelley and Korn. Both were similar, “Oh crap, my ankel, my ankle, (wink) (wink)” situations. I’m glad that Korn got it as well. A chicken loves to eat Korn and I want them to have as many years as possible to get their fill.
Comment by Out of Conference — March 10, 2008 @ 2:09 pm
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31 - I know you get tired of losing to Clemson in football and basketball, but at least you have baseball to soothe your ego.
Of course I cannot offer any evidence as to South Carolina falsifying medical records for medical redshirts, which is why I put the “winkie” in that remark.
Neither Chris Smelley nor Jason Barnes had legitimate season ending injuries in 2006, but Spurrier and South Carolina took advantage of the medical redshirt rule, anyway.
Clemson did the exact same thing with Willy Korn last year. Korn was injured, but not to the extent that the NCAA had in mind when creating that rule, just like Barnes and Smelley.
Hence, my exaggeration, which I would imagine some of your more enlightened brethren, such as OOC or Impirius, understood.
Regardless, paying players? Really?
Only disillusioned and bitter South Carolina fans still make those remarks with a straight face.
The NCAA has spent more time in Columbia than they have in Clemson over the last 15 years, with the highlight being the Holtz regime, naturally.
But, hey, you tell yourself whatever you need to.
In the meantime…
Tommy Bowden 7
South Carolina 2
Comment by Coop — March 10, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
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PW, they spend their money on all recruits. If they have 100k to spend on this, you know the money is going elsewhere, too. (not like that doesn’t happen at other schools as well).
Comment by Charlestownecock — March 10, 2008 @ 1:14 pm
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Coop, just out of curiousity, which medical records were ‘faked’. I’d like to see you back that up with facts of some sort.
Comment by Charlestownecock — March 10, 2008 @ 1:07 pm
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100K?!
Maybe Clemson boosters should be spending their money on good recruits instead of mediocre recruits’ little brothers.
Kidding, of course…but seriously.
Comment by PW — March 10, 2008 @ 12:58 pm
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Oh, and I forgot to add that RR’s little brother’s trust fund is currently over the $100K mark.
Ray Ray benefited tremendously from Clemson, but yes we are going to take a beating in the PR market.
Comment by Coop — March 10, 2008 @ 12:53 pm
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Pete,
I was going to make that point, but I didn’t know if it was that Tim Couch.
Comment by maskedavenger — March 10, 2008 @ 12:35 pm
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…and this kid as the little brother.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dXGj_-orxw
Comment by PW — March 10, 2008 @ 12:35 pm