CURIOUS INDEX, 2/20/08

Chop-Block Thread Jack!!!

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And clearly it was an “important” college football piece on Deadspin as it was not written by Shanoff

John Adams has risen to #1 on my list of heads I wish I had on a pike.

The comments left by the FSU fans in the Sentinel article are fantastic.

I say losing four strait to the Gates is worse than either the budget cuts or the academec fraud cheating scandel

I’m shocked budget cuts was spelled correctly.

Come on, everyone knows there’s a new Firefly around bend. No?

My toilet’s blue and yellow because of my fierce hatred for Swedes.

In a sport where 54 percent of participants are African-American, having only 6.6 percent of its head coaching positions filled by minorities should be unacceptable to everybody.

Why? I wouldn’t watch it any more or less if every coach was black.

Also, if the people doing the hiring are indeed racist, how is requiring them to interview a minority candidate going to change anything? If anything, it would probably make them less likely to hire the minority candidate because they’re pissed at the requirement.

Look, I buy that the 40 second clock will ADD plays because the officials will have to get the ball set on a time table. I believe it was thrown in to offset those expected to be lost due to the OB rule.

OB clock rule? BAD!!!! And I have a question to go along with it. Since this rule is not going to be in effect in the last 2 minutes of a half, does that mean we’ll have another mandatory TO at the 2 minute warning? Just what the TV execs need – another TO to show commercials, which could eat up the entire time saved by the rule in the first place. I smell a bait and switch here.

I really like the proposal to give the receiving team the 40 YL option after OB KOs, since it de-incentivizes the receiving team from forcing the re-kick, which wastes valuable TV time.

Clarifying the chop block? Bad for AU, good for CFB

Banning the horse collar? Meh. Just what refs need: More subjective calls to make.

Legalizing the incidental facemask? Meh. Great when you get away with it, but the borderline call will now be a 15 yard marginal penalty as opposed to 10 yards. May be better if they just made any hands to the facemask a 15 yarder just to take the subjective aspect out of it entirely.

RP is suddenly available to be hired as an assitant or head coach. That would help the %, yes?

1. — Bullshit, bullshit, and . . . bullshit.

Minorities aren’t hired today not because ADs are racist, but because ADs are mostly risk-averse accountants. Many openly state that they’re only interested in interviewing candidates with previous head coaching experience—the nightmare of L’Orgeron lives on.

The problem there is that ADs in the past were most certainly racist, leaving a talent pool of “qualified” candidates who were created in a system when minority coaches were held under a glass ceiling. It’s no accident that schools where minority coaches have broken through have mostly been in schools not in the high-stakes BCS or bust expectations—Miss St and Stanford come to mind.

When the NFL implemented their minority interview requirement, it wasn’t perfect but it removed some of the chickenshit thinking from the process that leads to retreads like Norv Turner coaching every team in the damn league.

Can’t believe there not some noise from homosexuals bitching about the lack of gays coaching collegiate sports. But as usual Auburn is way ahead of the curve in not only coaching hires but also its fan base.

After some “investigationing” on my part…

I thought you weren’t allowed to reference Deadspin due this “insular” alliance you have been linked to.

The above was a joke.

Honestly, I am guessing the people who read that site are the people I imagine at every NFL football game:

obese, goatee sporting, jersey wearing, wastes of space.

If you read Colbert’s book think, reference the sports chapter and the sections with the pro football fan and his wife Deb or Barb.

That, to me, is the epitome of the pro sports fan.

Hence, I don’t read Deadspin, but I might read God Save The Fan for chapter/s devoted exclusively to the WWL.

Any book that rips Stuart Scott a new one has to be at least “bathroom reading” newsworthy.

jersey wearing

Preach it bro. Grown man (excluding actual players)wearing a jersey = loser of the highest order.

I’ll say here what I said at SMQ. After watching to many SEC refs allow the opposing team to huddle, line-up, and read the defense before calling the ball ready for play, I am glad that the play clock isn’t up to the ref on the field. I have literally seen a center squat down and wait for the ref to get out of the way before putting his hand on the ball. That should never happen.

“Cletussian heels too provincial to appreciate the pro game.”

Take me home,
Country road,
To the place,
I belong,
WEST VIRGINIA,
Mountain Mama,
Take me home,
Country road.

tigerinatl,

i’ve said something on here very similar before, though maybe worded more harshly, and was very strongly opposed by many on here. i’m just going to hang up and listen.

15 – The only people who were pro-jersey on EDSBS were Yankees and that Josh fellow from LSU, as I recall.

Not only do I deem opposing said group on this issue acceptable, I celebrate it.

I’m actually a recovering jersey wearer. I wore them ‘til I was 23, and then I saw some gentlemen in their thirties wearing them and thought, “Man, those guys look ridiculous.” Then I felt a deep sense of shame and haven’t worn a jersey since. It’s been 9 years 3 months and 17 days since my last jersey.

#10…

so, race alone should be able to eviscerate the “no-experience” factor? essentially, ADs should hang a sign outside saying “those with no experience need not apply, unless applicant is of color?” I bet Gene Chizik, who interestingly fits your mold of being hired in “bust” type situations, would have something to say about that. The reality is that young white coaches face the same dilemma.

welcome biggus. stay strong brother.

I did not post comment #11. Obviously, I’ve ruffled the feathers of someone who’s panties are full of their crimson tide today. Jackass probably wears his #12 jersey to BDS on fall saturdays.

But I guess imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

BR,

It is always worse when you are wearing the jersey of someone younger than you.

Granted, it is God Awful for a freshman Georgia student to be rocking the Stafford or Moreno jersey…

but it is much worse for the 25 year old to be sporting the same Stafford or Moreno jersey.

No difference in wearing basketball jerseys, either. I believe cultural expert, Jay-Z, touched on this on one of his albums.

Also, I understand that being a grown up and having chrome on your wills are mutually exclusive.

whose. I’m such an ignorant blowhard jackass. Apologies.

Coop #22

I don’t remember running into too many students wearing jerseys to JHS. For the most part, you can bet you bottom dollar that those in jerseys do not have college degrees. As such, BDS is FULL of jerseys.

Biggus,

Tell the truth….was it a Mike Bobo jersey?

Sirs, while I have worn my #4 Georgia jersey on too many game days to count, I may grudgingly concede that jersey-wearing does not exactly speak highly of someone’s maturity level. But you can have my Team Slovakia hockey sweater when you pry it out of my cold, dead hands.

#21

Damn, I was getting ready for a heel turn inspired by all the recent rasslin’ content.

I agree on the jersey wearing. If someone wants to wear one, it’s their choice. But good God man. At least upgrade to one of the coach dri fit polos if you just have to feel like you belong on the field.

Talla-classy??? Preach on O. My son spilled mustard and ketchup from a hotdawg down the front of his shirt…my daughter immediately took off his shirt, threw it on the ground and started to stomp on it. When my wife asked what in the world, my daughter said “Mommy, those are senimole colors!” The wife looked at me and I hid my pride in my children’s actions with difficulty. Just can’t hide good breeding.

On another note, please understand that ol’ TK was stolen away from a community college, so his professional resume may not extend beyond painting urinals.

I’m not saying anything here….

but what’s the record of black coaches over the last 5 years?

As for the Orange and Blue toilets, it depends on the shade. AU has crapped all over FSU… 13-4, baaaayyybeeeee

You mean in a sport where 94.4% of the head coaches are white, only 46% of the participants are white? Obviously the selection process for college athletes is racist.

Croom then gave his OC, Woody McCorvey, a 40% raise and a two year extension for handling the offense in such a manner as to never actually crack the top 100 in NCAA rankings.

29

Screw that; all that matters is how many 5 star recruits they brought in. On-field success is a secondary concern.

/Bammer

PW,

My last one was a Quincy Carter jersey. I was not sad to part with it.

1. isn’t me either. I’ve never had a stalker before. This is great.

Until someone cares enough to come up with some reliable numbers on the percentage of African American graduate assistants and proves me wrong, I will continue to shout that you must first determine whether or not a problem exists at the entry level, and if so, address it there. Jumping from % of players to % of head coaches is ludicrous given the years, jobs, and other noise in between…of course, there may be different incentives at the entry level for someone from a particular socioeconomic ubringing, but saying “% bad = racist” is dumnifying.

“upbringing” me dum.

1. Perhaps more african american players make it to the NFL, so the undrafted/unsigned white kids are left to scrape together a living as a GA. It worked for Will Muschamp.

I’m curious as to how many kickers have to play before you get to 46% of the ‘student athletes being white’ number to make sense

Who was the German or whatever nationality philosopher who made the obvious statement, “the wheels of change/progress turn excruciatingly slow?”

Almost every BCS school in the country, at least the ones I follow, have an A-A on staff, ranging from position coach to coordinator to head coach.

20 years ago, that was not the case.

I believe that should be deemed progress.

In 20 years, there will be more A-A head coaches.

Granted, I can understand how that might frustrate the BCA, but it is fair to say these things take time.

As for Ltrain basically stated, nobody, white black or orange, goes from never coaching a single down of football to being the QB coach at Texas or Michigan.

As more A-As get into coaching, more A-A will become head coaches.

Conversely, the BCA does have an agenda, and it is their right to further it, assuming they don’t exaggerate the reality of the situation.

9 days left in February. Stupid leap year.

if there was a “blog award” for longest commenter…coop would win.

43

True, but I don’t begrudge him that because he’s usually spot-on. I usually skip similarly long posts from other commenters, though.

Okay. This is getting rediculous. #36 ain’t me either. I really be getting stalked. Imtation is best form of flatry.

War Eegul!

Doug:
I say hockey sweaters and authentic soccer jerseys are ok for caucasian-americans.

I say losing four strait to the Gates is worse than either the budget cuts or the academec fraud cheating scandel

Even funnier was that this guy called FSU the “flagship academic university in the south, if not the country.”

That was the funniest thing I’ve read all day.

47

I’m all for piling on FSU (even though I’m a law student here), but that comment was meant to be sarcastic.

“If even Will Leitch is writing something about a college football story, it’s a bonafide kerfuffle, since Deadspin tends to regard college football as the sport of Cletussian heels too provincial to appreciate the pro game. Which, to some degree or another, we are.”- this might be, but Will did sign my copy of his book last night with the inscription “EDSBS is a much better site than mine. Sorry.” So you’ve got that going for you.

In 20 years, we’ll let you sit in the middle of the bus. How ’bout that?

/Coop in 1962

; )

Only douches wear jerseys exhibit A

exhibit A makes me cringe.

Minor correction: Rick Chandler wrote that, not Will Leitch.

I’m still trying to get my brain around this part:

“As the great band Jackyl once stated with the Big Orange Nation on their thoughts”…

Biggus Ruckus those are the same colors of the Ukraine. Man you are mean. Swedes I can understand, but Ukranians!?! What did the Swedes endure, ABBA? Ukranians on the other hand well…

jason @ 32:

You mean in a sport where 94.4% of the head coaches are white, only 46% of the participants are white? Obviously the selection process for college athletes is racist.

Or even worse: in a country where less than 15 percent of citizens are African-American, having 54 percent of college football participants are African-American should be unacceptable to everybody.

Thats odd… I really would have guessed that more of the country was black than 15%, since even though everyone in the company I used to work for was white, our diversity posters on the wall led me to believe 1 out of every 3 people I met would be black or a hot asian chick

TK needs to go at FSU.

TIGERinATL,

A mullet like that demands that you wear a jersey.

Anonymous IV,

I contend that ABBA is far more damaging than any program devised by the Soviets.

37

You are exactly right. Comparing the % of players to the % of coaches proves absolutely nothing. You have to compare the % of viable coaching candidates to the % of coaches.

If young black men are not working as GAs, high school coaches, etc. then it is virtually impossible to ever become a candidate for a Div 1 head coaching job. There are very few young men who are willing to do what it takes to be a Div I head coach. For starters, you have to be willing to make no money, work your ass off, and wait approximately 15-20 years.

How many black men, or any race for that matter, are willing to sacrifice half their life to a wish that may never come true?

37, you hit the nail on the head.

The last time my shit was garnet while I was in Atlanta, I ended up at Crawford Long for two days.

not to threadjack or anything but…

what’s with the meteoric rise of ‘kerfuffle’ ?

It’s fucking everywhere !?

I want/need the following words expelled from the collective cfb blog lexicon:
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kerfuffle
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THANKS

I want/need the following words expelled from the collective cfb blog lexicon:

Can I add, schadenfreude? Most overdone word in cfb blogs, evah.

There’s plenty of phrases that have worn out their welcome too, starting with jump the shark.

3rd, can we get rid of paradigm too?

One of the greatest words that is not used enough in all of its forms is……. sodomy.

Maybe schools don’t want to hire black head coach’s because when they inevitably have to fire them they are forever labeled racist (see ND). I loved Chris Leak and all he did as a Gator but I was glad to see him go just so we didn’t have to have race discussed every time he threw an I-N-T.

Coop @#41…that german must have meant “excrutiatingly slowly”…those guys are so precise in everything I figured they must be better at grammar than I.

1. about #47…what could be taken as sarcasm? To consider reFSu flagship CC might be appropriate, but beyond that…holy cow, look at your president, for God’s sake. Just an aside…a classmate of mine in lawschool had been on probation for a year and a half at our school and she got a hardship transfer to reFSU where she was on the deanslist for the final three semesters…and it took her three tries to pass the bar…good luck.

67

Last I heard, FSU has a higher bar passage rate than UF.

#68, bar passage rates change after every bar exam…when I took mine Florida’s percentage was and had been considerably higher than reFSU’s. Don’t know what the rates are now. Despite the school, just pass the bar…and after you pass make sure you don’t pass another unless its closed. (jk)

in Morgantown none of can pass the bar, unless its on the way to another one..zing!

62, Will you and the rest of the world please stop saying “meteoric rise?” It doesn’t make sense, meteors don’t rise, they fall. Also, there are several redundancies I wish would go away, such as “end result,” “added bonus” and ATM machine."