I WAS WROOOOOOOOOONG
If we're playing the Social D, then it's wrong time...or at least speculative wrong time. A long IM conversation with Russell from Football Outsiders prompted this question: what, if anything, does instituting a forty second play clock do besides put the onus on the officials to spot the ball faster? Even if the take 15 seconds to spot the ball--and watching this laggardly work by an SEC crew in this year's LSU/Rebels game, that's fairly brisk--it's likely a push with the current system. And the more plays bit could come from the variable time that bleeds off the clock while the officials are pushing their walkers around spotting the ball. (Get them some offroad tires on those motherfuckers!)
So the 40 second clock may not be the real problem here, as Russell was quick and correct to point out. We were wrong, potentially, here, if the more logical types we know are correct.
The real-play shaver is still there, though:
"After a player runs out of bounds and the ball is made ready to play, the official will start the game clock. Under the old rules the game clock would not start until the ball was snapped. This new rule will not apply in the final two minutes of the first half and the final two minutes of the game."
Hrm. it won't be 3-2-5-e level trimmin', but there's some absolute time loss here without the promise of more plays. But that's not the point here: we jumped the gun here and didn't do our math correctly. See after the jump for the requisite self-flagellation.

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We interrupt this broadcast for FC points, from Alabama
http://www.myfoxal.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=5808627&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.1.1
And USC East
http://www.wltx.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=58605
Apologies for the long links, as I don’t know how to convert them to words.
We now return to your regularly scheduled self-flagellation.
by rusty on Feb 18, 2008 2:26 PM EST reply actions
YUP, the OOB rule is THE issue. There are situations where the 40 second rule change does become critical such as when a team wants to run off the clock by kneeling down. Before the crew could set the ball pretty quickly since the play didn’t go anywhere and the team only got 25 seconds of kill time. Now they will be able to get 40 seconds. 40 seconds for 4 plays means if you have the ball with the lead and a first down with 2:40 left, the game is over.
by Pirate_mate on Feb 18, 2008 2:54 PM EST reply actions
I can see the final rule change made in 2037… in order to appease the TV gods who want to show every game in America in it’s entirety….
“The game shall consist of 4 time periods called quarters. Each team will receive the opportunity to play offense and defense for 2 quarters each – and each team will run exactly 1 play during the quarter. Thus the game will consist of 4 plays, and last exactly 15 minutes”
This, my boys, will be your 15 min of fame
by Futbawl Fan on Feb 18, 2008 2:57 PM EST reply actions
The chop-blocks will continue until your math improves.
by NewAZTiger on Feb 18, 2008 2:57 PM EST reply actions
Pirate_mate:
Actually, end-of-game situations are the one area where I actually like the 40-second clock proposal. Takes matters out of the hands of home-conference refs, and you don’t have situations where slow-footed zebras are taking 25-30 seconds to spot the ball and start the play clock after a kneel-down or one-yard fullback dive.
by Papa Lou BSU on Feb 18, 2008 3:06 PM EST reply actions
serious faux pas there, orson. you never say you were wrong in the blogosphere. interweb etiquette instead requires you compare your opponent to hitler and carpet bomb him with f-bombs. add ad hominem insults to taste.
by kleph on Feb 18, 2008 3:09 PM EST reply actions
- said: “40 seconds for 4 plays means if you have the ball with the lead and a first down with 2:40 left, the game is over.”
That’s only true if they are able to run off 40 seconds before first down. If a team gets the ball, 1st down, while the clock is stopped (i.e. after change of possession), then they can only run off 2:00 (40 seconds after 1st down, again after 2nd down, again after 3rd down), plus the time that runs during the plays.
by TrevJo on Feb 18, 2008 3:11 PM EST reply actions
Fantastic………..
The Social D that is.
Trying to figure out the ramifications of the new rule is beyond my effort level, at least on a day when I am not being paid to do something else.
by DanF on Feb 18, 2008 3:12 PM EST reply actions
Jesus Tapdancing Christo! Just run less commercials! How hard is that? The NCAA always wants to use the term “student-athlete” and emphasize the STUDENT, but everything they do is for money.
Why does CBS have to take a prolonged TV timeout after a score, come back for the kickoff, then take ANOTHER prolonged TV timeout before the first play is run? In the UT/UF game that would have saved like an hour!
by etsuVol on Feb 18, 2008 3:18 PM EST reply actions
etsuVol,
Because they pay millions upon millions of dollars for the right to broadcast the games and the commercials make the investment worthwhile. They’re annoying, but the conferences aren’t going to restructure their deals so the networks pay less, and the networks aren’t going to turn down ad revenues for our convenience. The only way that would change is if we stopped watching, and we all know that isn’t going to happen.
by Biggus Rickus on Feb 18, 2008 3:27 PM EST reply actions
In all of this mess, I have not noticed if they will still stop the clock on first downs?
Heaven forbid if FOX ever got control of SEC CFB – we’d be deluged with simultaneous small inset screen PrisonBreakSimpsonsfamilyGuy commercials during a 4th and 1 late in the 4th in the UGA/UF game, not to mention the looming vacuousness of Thom Brennerman every weekend instead of Verne.
by yoyofutbawl on Feb 18, 2008 3:47 PM EST reply actions
Less plays = less football = bullshit.
The out of bounds rule sucks.
I do like the new play clock rule. One less way that refs from Austin can help Mack Brown win.
by Raider Red on Feb 18, 2008 3:50 PM EST reply actions
If I’m listening to Socila D, I’m drinking whiskey. Must.Stop.At.Liquor.Store.
by Scalz1 on Feb 18, 2008 4:10 PM EST reply actions
#3: The refs could have spotted the ball quickly and allowed only ~30 seconds to run off the clock as a result, but they never did. 40 seconds was already close to the norm, even in kneel-down situations – the only time the refs made any attempt to hurry the spot is if the offense is running the hurry-up. In fact, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen at least a couple of kneel-downs that took longer than that.
by SpartanDan on Feb 18, 2008 6:42 PM EST reply actions
What if the ref decides to stop and smoke a cigarette, since he’s got all that time? What if a dog bites a player? What if that dog gets chopped block on the next play?
by Mr Pelican Pants on Feb 18, 2008 10:22 PM EST reply actions
Thats chop blocked…..I have a headache….The Elder case…..one less scholly and more room for the new blood…..has Saban cut Prothro yet?
by Mr Pelican Pants on Feb 18, 2008 10:23 PM EST reply actions
Raider Red,
Just waaaaah, sir. The only way the rules could have won you that game is if Tech vs. Texas was the only game of the year played under a make-it-take-it format, and even then only if you scored first.
by Horn Brain on Feb 19, 2008 1:13 AM EST reply actions

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