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MINORITY CANDIDATES TO INTERVIEW NOW THAT YOU KINDA HAVE TO

It used to be that when minority candidates could be hired the old-fashioned way: when everyone else had said no to the job, either because of the meager salary offered (UCLA) or the impossible task facing whomever was foolish enough to stick their face into the bear trap of the job (Miss State, for instance.) The minority interview did happen from time to time, but was usually done in a manner of blatant tokenism. (In other words, they called Charlie Strong, and he told them he was tired of this shit, and that was that.)

Now, thanks to a penalty-less edict from the Division I-A Athletic Directors' Association, the Rooney Rule has come to college football. The bad news: now, schools will by community agreement and without enforceable penalty require the substantial interview of at least one minority candidate for each position on staff.

A written policy stipulating that any division I-A football program with a head coaching vacancy will interview at least one minority candidate was sent just more than three weeks ago to athletic directors at the 120 schools.

Luckily, ADs who crave the retread white guy of their choice have a loophole: minority is a very wide term, and can describe any number of types of people ADs may include in their consideration. For example, have you, the racist AD, considered interviewing...

Ginger kids. NC State hired a redhead in Tom O' Brien, sure, but did they go the extra step you'll go to in hiring the first real ginger kid to hold a head coaching job? Admittedly, you can't come from a Sun Belt school, since the sun is the natural enemy of ginger kids everywhere. But a nice Northeastern or program in the Pacific Northwest will do nicely.

Lefties. You know they're evil, but still: a minority desperately in need of work. Plus: they really don't have a shorter life expectancy, so in case it works out you don't have to worry about them kicking off early.

The Eskimo. Okay, so we're not sure if any of them are actually coaching. But they're a minority, and you could interview one. The conversation could go something like this:

AD: Tell me a few of your strengths as a leader and administrator.

Eskimo: Kah-bloon-ah nowk? (Where is there a white man?)

AD: Um, and...tell me about your ability to work with alumni a bit.

Eskimo: Comma-tee-nick eye-shook-too! (Bring a dog sled!)

AD: I see...well, I think that about does it for our time here together today.

Eskimo: Tah-koo! Cook-e-oo pee-yuma-voong-ah! Kah-mig-ga cow-shook-toot! (Look! I need a gun! My boots are wet!)

See? The possibilities are endless, tacitly racist ADs of the world. Get to it!

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It’s a nice first step but without Penalties attached the rule is as about as useful as a screen door on a submarine.

I like the effort though.

by Paragon SC on Feb 11, 2008 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

But much like Vampires the gingers have no soul O, NO SOULS!! They’ll getcha

by NDEddiemac on Feb 11, 2008 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

once again, special interest groups have their way, and organizations cave under the pressure. Soon quotas will be in place that say a certain % of head coaches per conference will have to be a minority. This is just the beginning.

by roaminggator on Feb 11, 2008 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

Other possible minorities: hippies (easy to turn them down what with the drugs and all, therefore making them the perfect token minority candidate) and albinos.

by carlinthemarlin on Feb 11, 2008 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

Minority Suggestion Dept:

I suggest that one of the minorities selected must be a babe with bunda to last for days.

If they have to go through the motions, at least let it be enjoyable for the fans.

I suggest Miss Adriana Lima be “interviewed” next for whatever job is out there.

by Stacy Keibler Luvs Me on Feb 11, 2008 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

Why was there little (if any) public praise by the Black Coaches Association when Navy immediately hired a minority as a head coach when Paul Johnson left without interviewing any white candidates?

Was it because his last name was Niumatalolo?

by NavyHusker on Feb 11, 2008 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

I have a question. Does this law still stand in California and Texas where I believe white people are not the majority? Just asking.

by Brian on Feb 11, 2008 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

As a lefty I say “fuck y’all” because we run this shit. “This shit” being anything. Look it up. 7-10% of the population but doing far more than its fair share.

by Brian on Feb 11, 2008 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

Roaminggator @ 3 – relax your sphincter, sir or madam. If there’s still a place in God’s own game for the white possession receiver, we can be confident that the overweight white coach will remain a persistent part of the fabric of college football.

by DC Trojan on Feb 11, 2008 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

nice subtle nod to robert flahtery’s magnificent ‘nanook of the north.’ it’s as ground-breaking a documentary effort as it is a powerful piece of cinema. it has been released on dvd in a high-quality format through the criterion collection. kleph says, ‘check it out.’

by kleph on Feb 11, 2008 6:00 PM EST reply actions  

@8

Preach on my fellow lefty.

by TideDruid on Feb 11, 2008 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

#3

Hmmmm. Special interests groups, eh? Like those damned privileged minorities who get a free education for the privilege of wrecking their health to satisfy America’s Coliseum-esque urge for the blood of (allegedly) inferior humans?

Why don’t you take your weak shit, and your white sheets, to Stormfront where that “conversation” and patent buffoonery is mercifully relegated to other cousin-touchers.

by Der Schatten on Feb 11, 2008 6:31 PM EST reply actions  

If Charles wins the Governor’s mansion in Montgomery, does that let Auburn and Bama off the hook?

by NRBQ on Feb 11, 2008 6:35 PM EST reply actions  

I’m a lefty too.

Fun fact: so were Bush 41, Clinton, and Perot.

by PW on Feb 11, 2008 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

That dog is both appalled and disgusted by this development — but he likes the way roamingator thinks.

by Harris on Feb 11, 2008 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

Dimitri Ravinoff would make a fine football coach, and he was a Native American.

True, all of this plays would result in killing the opposing team with glass knives…but it would be awesome to watch.

by Rob G on Feb 11, 2008 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

Hey, as a lefty, I’ve got one thing to say.

We’re not evil, we’re just sinistral.

by Brad Warbiany on Feb 11, 2008 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

Sir Charles only gets Auburn off the hook. Bama still has to atone for George Wallace. Here’s to hoping Ozzie Newsome runs for office…

by This Is Your Captain Speaking on Feb 11, 2008 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

As a UGA fan, Charlie Strong deserves a head coaching job ASAP……albeit far far away from the SEC. Maybe the PAC10 where we may never play him again (this last year not included).

by Jimifacs on Feb 11, 2008 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

Does ’Bama get credit for Sly Croom?

by Herb on Feb 11, 2008 11:52 PM EST reply actions  

Color of their skin?

or

Content of their Character?

So explain Affirmative Action to me again, (without the racist labels and name-calling).

by roaminggator on Feb 11, 2008 11:54 PM EST reply actions  

Herb,

No, in fact Bama loses points for picking Shula over Croom in the first place. And what happened to Bama after? Got Croomed, of course.

Karma.

by the croominator on Feb 12, 2008 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

So like 52% of the population is female, making males the minority.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo!!!

Gimme a fucking siren and some Monistat!!!!

by Brandon Cox's Vagina on Feb 12, 2008 1:09 AM EST reply actions  

Roaminggator @ 21 – well, why don’t you explain this then? African Americans are about 10% of the population. Let’s take a rough SWAG and say that perhaps 75% of college football players are black, and that this has been the case for some time. And let’s say that 5% of coaches are black. Don’t those proportions strike you as a little strange?

Or when you use the “content of their character” quote, do you really just mean you think that black head coaches can’t hack it because of some kind of character defect? Is this some kind of code that I"m not cracking here?

by DC Trojan on Feb 12, 2008 1:12 AM EST reply actions  

@ 21 – you’re not wiping out 400+ years of brutality and disenfranchisement in 50. Just ain’t happening. Until you get even relatively close to that in terms of institutional structures, this ish is necessary.

by Signal to Noise on Feb 12, 2008 3:10 AM EST reply actions  

Nanook no have time for this shit. Must hunt more whale for blubber.

by Raider Red on Feb 12, 2008 4:23 AM EST reply actions  

Are assholes a minority? Nick Saban wants to know.

by yoyofutbawl on Feb 12, 2008 7:44 AM EST reply actions  

oooooh, roamninggator, I think I know the answer to that one, try this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grutter_v.Bollinger. But, why, you might ask, is that necessary? Good point. Start here: Scott_v.Sandford" target="blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v.Sandford. The result of that chattel mentality eventually led to this: v.Ferguson" target="blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plessy_v.Ferguson. Which, in turn, nearly a century later, had to be remediated by this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownv._Board_of_Education. Which brings us full circle to the first case above.

History. Try it. You might like it.

by Der Schatten on Feb 12, 2008 7:53 AM EST reply actions  

#27, on some days it seems that assholes are the majority. Other days there are not many of them around. According to Reuters Non-Hispanic whites will become a minority in the United States by 2050.

by Anonymous IV on Feb 12, 2008 9:18 AM EST reply actions  

Guys, what did gator say that was so out of line? So, a coach should only get an interview based on his skin?

Are black coaches that sub-par that there’s no other way they can get interviews and jobs?

And if Athletic departments are so organizationally racist, why do they keep hiring black basketball coaches?

(my grandfather was a high school football coach in Upstate SC during the 60s, he lived “Remember the Titans”, I’m well aware of race issues in sports.)

by Techie on Feb 12, 2008 12:09 PM EST reply actions  

well, since the SEC only hires coaches with fat rings, we “don’t have time for this SHI”.

and all you big-mouthed segregationist’s, (#28, #25, #24) should go preach somewhere else.
affirmative action is a racist segregationist policy.
i don’t care what happened on Wikipedia yesterday, really. forced hiring of anyone is contrary to American ideals.
and don’t bother with the comments about American ideals being oppressive, b/c i’ve heard it before.
reality?
minorities in America today have it better than minorites in ANY other country on earth.
(except for Europeans in South Africa, lolz)
as a matter of fact, african americans (a segregationist misnomer, especially if they arrived 400 years ago, making them as American as apple pie and the Constitution) have it better than African africans, or french Africans, or mexican Americans, or Candian Americans (everybody hates them), or Christian middle-easterners, or muslim Israelis (wtf)….etc. etc. etc.
if America wants to help out blacks, they should start in Darfur.
the “disenfranchised” “oppressed” “discriminated against” african American has only encouraged those labels to excuse…dare i say it…laziness.
if people (and i mean whites) aren’t willing to keep their trailer park meth-free, why should i set up a Douglasville health clinic?
if people (and i mean blacks) aren’t willing to police their own children, why should i volunteer in 5 points for neighborhood watch?
if people (and i mean hispanics) aren’t willing to make me a burrito and build my house, why should i pay for their children to be born as citizens and their education? (actually that’s a pretty common fair trade, scratch that)

i don’t understand why i should make reparations for something that happened 50 years ago.
i’m not gonna apologize for killing Native Americans w/ the introduction of Small Pox….i’m not gonna beg forgiveness (or buy forgiveness) for slavery….i’m not gonna ask for leniency for Napoleon’s defeat….i’m not gonna offer India reparations for their subjucation for decades, or Hong Kongs….i’m not gonna interview extra jews to be my Dr….and i won’t vote Hillary just b/c she’s a chick or Barack just b/c he’s black.
-ha

why doesn’t the rest of the world (Dutch, Mongolian, English, Portuguese, Spanish, German, Chinese, Japanese, Italian, Catholic, Protestant, Islamic, Jewish) constantly pay reparations (or at least talk about it)?
b/c they “don’t have time for this SHI”, either.

Black coaches have plenty of opportunity for head coaching jobs. -Delaware St., Tuskegee, Southern, Norfolk St., Grambling, Alabama A&M, South Carolina St., Alabama St., Clark-Atlanta, Florida A&M, Alcorn St., etc. etc. etc.
these schools foster and encourage a segregationist ideal.
that said, there should be more head coaches that are black. but trying to make it mandatory is just stupid.
and trying to make it mandatory without the proverbial “big stick” is just lame.

PS-we all know how Ty Willingham screwed up Notre Dame, do we really want that all over the CFB landscape? hahaha

by dawgaddict on Feb 12, 2008 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

@25, so slavery has only been around for 400 years? Seems to me the institution was alive and well a few thousand years before that. And I believe a few races practiced it before the USA was a twinkle in history’s eye.

by NavyHusker on Feb 12, 2008 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

dawgaddict @ 25, you need not fear affirmative action – the only “segregationist” policy you need to worry about is one for morons.

by DC Trojan on Feb 12, 2008 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

Reason: Institutions have shown a pattern of exclusion for over 100 years.
Solutions: Governing body comes up with an answer to rectify it.

Those who proclaim that race doesn’t matter are silly and ignorant.

And yes, lefties rule the world.

by Lawrence Ross on Feb 12, 2008 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

whereas I need to worry about segregation of the innumerates and crap typists…. ahem.

by DC Trojan on Feb 12, 2008 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

@32, navyhusker (there’s a gay joke in you somewhere)

um, 1) 400 years was a quote from someone else’s post.
and B) do you REALLY feel it appropriate that the US atone for all slavery practiced throughout world history? …or just slavery sanctioned by Americans (or Brits or Dutch) in America in say, the last 400 years or so?
b/c really, you missed the point of my post.
woulda thought writing 500 words would clear things up….but nooooooo. you are suxor.

DC Trojan, very insightful political meanderings as always…but i’m a moron, so what do i know?
@34 -we really should rely on the gub’ment MORE often. they didn’t help get us into this reparation mess……you commie scum.
-ha

by dawgaddict on Feb 12, 2008 6:34 PM EST reply actions  

Ah Dawg…It’s not about them thar fancy internets and wikis and such…it’s merely an attempt to use a readily-accessible medium in the hopes of ej-u-mu-catin’ those who refuse to understand that it’s not about slavery, it’s not about reparations, it’s not about “forced” hiring: It is about correcting judicially- and politically-mandated de jure segregation in public life. It may be a subtle distinction, but I promise if you wrassle with it, like your PBR bottle tops, then one day that sweet sweet frothy mist of enlightenment may slake your thirst.

And, yes, lefties still rock.

by Der Schatten on Feb 12, 2008 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

@#37 i refer you to my previous comment @#34, we really should rely on the gub’ment MORE often. they didn’t help get us into this reparation mess

my familiarity with the internet includes Wiki- devices and my comment was not intended to disparage their use as a source. (credible or otherwise)
the correct spelling is edu-ma-catin’, but i’ll let it slide in exchange for a glass of whatever you’re drinking, since my struggles with this PBR lid have been documented.
the reality is that there is a success bias against black coaches. not to say that black coaches are unsuccessful, but in the SEC (in particular) there is a bias against coaches that haven’t won the mythical ring.
forced (or even encouraged) interviewing will not increase black coach hires, but instead deter them.
without wielding the “big stick” i spoke of earlier, the “encouraged” interviews will result in a disgruntled process for all.
anyone that thinks RichRod, CUM, Ol’ Nutt, RickNeu, OBC, CharlieWeiss, or BPelini had to “pass” an interview is deluding themselves. AD’s know who they want long before the interview occurs.
-the color of that recherché coach’s skin (if not a factor before) certainly will be now.
if anyone thinks Houston Nutt was interviewed to determine his fitness for the Ole Miss job, or Petrino was interviewed to determine his allegiance to the organization sigining his checks, they are delusional.

PS- it was kind of you to avoid my proposed contention (that affirmative action is racist policy), but perhaps you will graciously consider it now that you are done insulting my affinity for PBR and wrasslin?

PPS-lefties rock no more than righties, your verbal masturbation requires neither, and at the end of the day even lefties use their right more than their left to polish the cob. http://www.jackinworld.com/library/surveys/prefprac.html
“Of right-handed people, percentage who masturbate primarily with the left hand: 9.7%
Of left-handed people, percentage who masturbate primarily with the right hand: 19.9%
Of righties, percentage who masturbate with both hands: 37.0%
Of lefties, percentage who masturbate with both hands: 32.5%”

by dawgaddict on Feb 12, 2008 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

I realize there’s a dearth of black coaches in the NCAAs, but I still don’t look at it as systematic racism. Do you seriously think that any AD would give up wins to hire a white coach?

by wilbur on Feb 12, 2008 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

I think that, just possibly, dawgaddict might be an agent provocateur… silly me for taking the bait.

by DC Trojan on Feb 12, 2008 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

no trolls here……nobody here but us chickens

by dawgaddict on Feb 13, 2008 10:11 AM EST reply actions  

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