RAKROOTIN’, WITH ANDY STAPLES
Recruiting is like prom without booze for the college fan, and that equals nervous, nervous times. Ease the pain with the balm of someone who knows what they’re talking about, Andy Staples of CNNSI.com.
1. Name the three most contested recruits in the nation?
1) QB Terrelle Pryor, Jeannette, Pa. — Pryor’s obvious skill aside, his recruitment is especially nasty because it looks like it will come down to Michigan and Ohio State. The two fan bases hate each other with the heat of 1,000 suns, so the mud has been flying. For the coaching staffs, losing Pryor to their bitter rival would be a huge blow.
2) WR Julio Jones, Foley, Ala. — Jones is down to Alabama, Florida, Florida State and Oklahoma. He’s a 6-4, 215-pounder with great hands and phenomenal leaping ability. If he picks any school other than Alabama, the accumulated tears falling south from the state may actually flood Florida’s panhandle.
3) RB Darrell Scott, Ventura, Calif. — Scott is down to Texas and Colorado, but he may not reveal his decision before signing day. His uncle (two years older) plays at Colorado, which is why the Buffs are in it for the guy considered the nation’s top back.
2. Who’s being the most innovative in terms of reaching recruits?
A lot of schools have gotten around the text message ban by just sending e-mails. A lot of kids get e-mail on their cell phones now, anyway. Southern California and Florida also have one-day camps during the summer that are extremely popular among elite recruits. Florida calls its camp “Friday Night Lights.” They basically turn on the lights at Florida Field, jack up the hip-hop on the sound system and run the players through drills. Other schools have begun copying the format. Florida State had one this summer called “Seminole Showtime” that featured a ton of former FSU stars mingling with campers.
3. Who’s cleaning up?
The usual suspects. Ohio State has a great class whether Pryor chooses the Buckeyes or Michigan. USC may not have a great ranking because the Trojans may not sign as many players as the other highly ranked schools, but the Trojans appear to have a quality class. Also, USC already has a commitment from QB Matt Barkley, the guy who probably will be the top prospect in the class of 2009. Barkley attends the same high school (Mater Dei in Santa Ana, Calif.) that produced Matt Leinart. In the SEC, Georgia, Florida and Alabama have put together strong classes. If Alabama signs Jones, consider it a sign that Nick Saban’s recruiting mojo is alive and well.
4. Whose class will look good in terms of stars and numbers, but may not actually address program needs?
Notre Dame is always the one to watch in this category. The program needs an overall talent upgrade, and at first glance the 2008 class would appear to address that need, but Notre Dame also had top-10 classes in 2006 and 2007. At any other school, two consecutive top-10 classes would translate to more on-field success, but Notre Dame recruits sometimes get rated higher than they would had they not chosen Notre Dame. But that’s probably also Tyrone Willingham’s fault.
5. Conversely: whose class is addressing needs perfectly?
I realize a lot of Florida fans frequent EDSBS, so they’re not going to like this. Georgia really didn’t need much more talent, but the Bulldogs cleaned up. A.J. Green, a 6-4 receiver from Summerville, S.C., looked like a future star at the Under Armour All American game on Jan. 5. Georgia has 25 commitments, and five players already have enrolled.
6. What programs are tanking in this year’s recruiting?
Tennessee has not gotten many of its high-profile targets, but the Vols still have a chance to bolster the class with a few undecided players. One is Anniston, Ala., offensive tackle Antoine McClain, who also is considering Alabama, Auburn and LSU. Georgia Tech, which is hampered by high academic standards and a coaching change, hasn’t pulled in any big-name recruits. That said, Paul Johnson probably will have more talent at his disposal than he had at Navy, so the recruiting ranking probably won’t matter.









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ThreenOut says:
1)OSU will crap their collective pants if Pryor decides on Michigan.
First, they lose the recruit to a rival.
Second, OSU needs him just so they don’t have to face that spread ****. Again. And be embarrassed. Again. Just think Juice Williams 2007… but w/ talent.
2) Jones has been hoing himself out to everyone under the sun. Texas Tech even thought they had him at one point.
3) Other than the Uncle thing Scott has no reason to give Colorado much of a chance. Texas wasn’t even on his radar till JarJar Charles declared opening a spot and the second that announcement was made Scott added Texas.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:11 am
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gerry dorsey says:
i actually think julio has handled his very high profile recruitment pretty damn well, but i’m sure it depends on where your loyalties lie as to whether or not he’s “hoing himself out.”
if he’s a ho, i’d hate to hear the names you call other recruits…or for that matter the people recruiting them.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:14 am
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jbob says:
“Notre Dame recruits sometimes get rated higher than they would had they not chosen Notre Dame.”
Duh.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:15 am
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the beefy ghost of prop joe says:
So does that mean Ty’s last two classes that were ranked in the 30’s-40’s at ND were really overrated?
The blame for last season falls on Weis, he’s in charge now. That being said, the constant defense of Willingham by the majority of the media gets a little old. By any measure he has been a mediocre coach at 3 different BCS programs. He has never been a coordinator in major college football or the NFL. Can someone please explain the stiffy for the guy.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:18 am
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ThreenOut says:
#2. Sorry didn’t mean it in an offensive way. Just semantics.
He just hasn’t seemed to show a lot of commitment in anywhichway except to the South East United States.
Nothing wrong w/ that. He’s got to make a decision that impacts the rest of his life so he needs to take his time and check all options.
Also, the press has given him a bad name w/ all the rumors of recruiting @ Florida and other such BS.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:21 am
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jds says:
ya notre dame’s class really is teh suxorz! LOLOL!!1!
idiot… overrated or not it’s still a top 5/10 class.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:25 am
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Biggus Rickus says:
Richt has made signing day sort of anticlimactic the last few years. The classes have been essentially done by the end of bowl season. Though I think Moreno was a signing day coup a couple of years ago.
I still don’t understand sweating the decision of an 18 year old. There’s the very real possibility that even the most can’t-miss prospect will never play a down, and most certainly won’t contribute for a couple of years.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:27 am
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ThreenOut says:
#3 That happens at most of the media darlings. I’ve seen 3-4 stars sign @ Texas, Mich, or USC and the stars get bumped up almost instantaneously.
It’s almost like there’s a media bias or something. Crazy… I know.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:28 am
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reb pup says:
I thought it was called “Recrootin”
January 30th, 2008 at 11:28 am
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Coop says:
McClain is going to Clemson.
Both Alabama and Auburn are out of it with him and Tennessee is not going to get him for a multitude of reasons. LSU just got in it with him, so, nuts to them as well, not that they really need him.
Would love to get J. Harris, too, but will settle for McClain and Jamie Harper and finally end up with a national top 10 class under Bowden.
Oh, and South Carolina just picked up a kid who has been a Florida verbal since the summer because Florida yanked his offer.
He should fit in nicely with South Carolina’s 9 WR sets they will be employing next year. Because, everyone signs with USC to play WR, and none of them will ever be moved to another position. Isn’ t that right, Mr. Culliver?
You know, Spurrier was so much more honest when he did not have to work so hard to get so much more talent when he was at Florida.
And, his record is not quite the same at South Carolina. Shame he had to go and tarnish his name by spending the requisite 5 years at the Graveyard of coaches.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
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crimson daddy says:
Alabama’s been out of it with McClain for awhile. He tried to commit twice but the coaches told him to wait. He didn’t take too kindly to that. Can’t really blame him.
And to #1, since when does taking all your visits constitute “hoing”? And it’s Bama or OU for him. Probably Bama, but he’s been very tight-lipped.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:38 am
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EricW says:
Radiohead on a football highlight reel… now I’ve seen it all.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:38 am
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Coop says:
Also, am I the only one who just read that and thought to myself, “I pay the $8/$9 a month to various (4) sites to read about what is going on, the message boards scare the piss out of me (especially various Clemson and South Carolina sites) with their, um, interesting posters, and I know more than this guy?”
Give me back AJ Harmon, Georgia, and you can have Brandon Thompson.
No, I know I am not. Over 60% of the people on here pay the $8/9 a month to Rivals or Scout for their schools’ “premium information.”
I love people who claim they “voraciously follow college football,” but claim that they don’t follow recruiting.
You just pick up a roster in August and hope for the best…
January 30th, 2008 at 11:45 am
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robert says:
@10:
Yeah, I guess Julio Jones is the most hipster-ish blue chipper ever.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:46 am
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Pat says:
“…but Notre Dame recruits sometimes get rated higher than they would had they not chosen Notre Dame.”
Interesting comment coming from an SI writer, seeing as how SI’s Top 100 list features more ND recruits in the Top 50 (6) than Rivals (5), Tom Lemming (5), Scout (4), and ESPN (2).
When you have ND recruits rated higher than Mr. Blue and Gold himself Tom Lemming, you might want to tone down the hackneyed bias jokes.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:47 am
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big 11th blog! says:
Penn State needs to be on the ‘not doing much list’, notre dame class get more and more overhyped mostly because of the NBC broadcast rights to the army all-american game. Add that up.
http://thebigeleventh.blogspot.com/
January 30th, 2008 at 11:49 am
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Coop says:
Yeah, Bama is sitting on 26 commitments and they are waiting on at least two more. This is why we are getting McClain.
Last time I checked, you can only sign 25, but obviously you guys are going to sign and place a couple and/or a couple count toward last year’s class or something.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:50 am
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Aaron says:
FACT: This guy is a fucking wanker.
(Possibly) FACT: This guy molests cocker spaniels.
(Probably not, but maybe) FACT: This guy blew Willingham.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:52 am
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ThreenOut says:
#13’s comment would be true except for the whole thing of Orson writing for Sporting News…. not Sports Illustrated.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:53 am
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ThreenOut says:
sorry #15. my bad
January 30th, 2008 at 11:53 am
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spencer096 says:
http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2008/01/prep_coach_gut_instinct_says_q.html
January 30th, 2008 at 11:56 am
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crimson daddy says:
Coop, they may be looking to get as many as four more. Not sure how it’s all gonna shake out. I know 2 are back-counters for last year. One or two are probably JUCO or prep school bound, and there may be a couple of grey-shirts thrown in there.
There’s probably a couple of guys that committed early that wouldn’t have a schollie now if they had waited.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:58 am
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Pat says:
ThreenOut – Those are Andy Staples’s comments in the post, not Orson’s. Hence the reference to SI and not Sporting News.
Besides, Orson’s ND jokes are never hackneyed.
January 30th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
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karlhungus12 says:
Auburn is no longer pursuing McClain.
January 30th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
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Picture Me Rollin says:
I gave up my subscription to recruiting services, you can pretty much get the same info on blogs without paying for it.
Seems like I heard McClain was having academic issues.
I hope Jones pulls a Tebow and stays close to home, it’s just hard to tell because he is so quiet.
And if you haven’t heard – Alabama made the hiring of McElwain official.
January 30th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
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crimson daddy says:
Finished it for you #24….
“……because McClain told them they were out of it.”
January 30th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
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Coop says:
I think McClain will be a sign and place, but we are desperate for his ilk.
Fingers crossed he can get it done in the second semester of his senior year of high school, because that is when everyone buckles down and studies hard in high school. Right?
We’re screwed…
January 30th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
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ThreenOut says:
#23 – recanted.
Reading comprehension is my friend. I post was based off the article.
January 30th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
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Meatybob says:
Chalk up Nebraska for having a craptastic recruiting class. As much as Callahan sucked, he was on the way to a top 5 recruiting class. Now its like super sucking ass crap.
January 30th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
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Mcaplan says:
On Darrell Scott, Rick Neuheisel and DeWayne Walker have gotten UCLA in on that. Late in the game, but in the game no less. They’ll be at his house tonight.
January 30th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
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beckett929 says:
#7 – I still don’t understand sweating the decision of an 18 year old. There’s the very real possibility that even the most can’t-miss prospect will never play a down…
Thats so true, and I totally agree. A few years ago at WVU Steve Slaton as a freshman was 4th on depth chart and Jason Qwaltney, a heralded top 5 RB was supposed to be the future of program. Qwaltney was off the team by the end of Sept and and by the second weekend of Oct Slaton racked up a half-dozen TDs… recruiting hype is overrated
January 30th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
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karlhungus12 says:
#26
I doubt that is true. I have never seen this staff say there were no longer pursuing a prospect because they were told they were out of it. I think it is a combination of grades and something else, maybe his attitude or off the field issues or maybe he has his hand out, I don’t know.
January 30th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
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Pants McPants says:
#1, I think you have this totally reversed…UM has crap for QB depth, their recruiting class is meh, and they’re are certainly going to lose again to OSU this season. They need Pryor much much more than OSU needs Pryor….
Wait, I take back my original statement, I KNOW you have this totally reversed…
#30, It’s “Gwaltney”, and citing exceptions does not disprove the overall trend that the schools with the best classes usually have the best teams. This is fact.
And regarding this, I think it’s evident ND’s rankings have been a bit skewed. There were 2 ND players in the Army AA game, Crist and Floyd, who looked like elite recruits. Maybe Rudolph didn’t get a chance, but that’s 3 out of what, 16?
I watched most ND games for the last 2 seasons, and would challenge any ND fan to tell me who the true “difference makers” are that they’ve recruited. Clausen? He could be pretty good. Allen? Walls? Young? Kamara? Tate? These guys wouldn’t see the field on most decent B10 teams, let alone SEC teams. and they’re the ones that have stood out.
January 30th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
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Dave says:
Someone needs to remind Darrell Scott and Julio Jones about the nice weather and amazingly hot and totally fuckable Asian girls at UCLA.
January 30th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
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Tater Salad says:
@31:
That’s fantastic. You think the staff would come out and say that McClain told them he had no interest? Come on, he’s an in-state kid.
But don’t let that stop you from saying the kid is dumb, has a bad attitude or is looking for a payout. Guess we will know the truth about the grades issue next year …
Will eat crow, by the way, if he doesn’t qualify.
January 30th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
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Sean says:
Notre Dame’s recruiting of late has had more talent on the offensive side. Last year’s futility had more to do with coaching and position changes than even the youth movement would excuse.
This is the first class in more than a decade that Notre Dame got defensive linemen and linebackers that USC, Michigan, OSU, Florida and Alabama all wanted. The fact that we got Ethan Johnson away from USC is unbelievable. Getting Filer from OSU and Michigan is a big deal, too. Did losing Omar Hunter to Florida hurt? Yes, but given that we stunk on ice last year getting him to commit in the first place is pretty impressive. We didn’t win every recruiting battle, but we did well enough.
January 30th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
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Coop says:
I don’t know what happened with McClain, but something happened on that visit to Auburn the other weekend.
I am speculating that Auburn’s offer to him had an expiration date on it of less than 48 hours, his stay on the Plains, b/c they had Savage on the hook, and McClain smiled and said, “I am going home.”
He is quoted in all the articles as stating he left Auburn early because, “he had to get to church on Sunday morning.”
Now, if that does not sound like something Tommy Bowden told him to say…
Neither Alabama nor Auburn “really, really” want him for whatever reason, but we do, so we will happily take your “sorta kindas” and possibly steal away Jerriel (sp?) Harris from Alabama, as well.
Anyway, I am going to go the pessimistic route and say that, while Clemson thinks he can quality, I expect to place him.
Hope I am wrong.
January 30th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
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karlhungus12 says:
I am just saying I have never seen the current staff say they were backing off a kid for some made up reason just because they were beat. The church thing was planned in advance and the coaches knew it before he arrived. I am almost certain he will not qualify, but I do not think that is the only issue. Hell, half our class is not going to qualify. We are not having a good year recruiting, especially in state, but I really believe we let McClain go for some reason, I just don’t know what it is.
January 30th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
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Tater Salad says:
Coop-
I think Alabama definitely wanted McClain and still do, but Bama has no shot. For some reason they asked him to hold off while they waited on Cordy Glenn. Looks like a mistake in hindsight. From all indications the Bama staff tried to patch things up but to no avail. I hate to lose a kid like him. He will be a monster wherever he goes. Here’s hoping he goes to Clemson, out of the SEC, without Jerrell Harris…
January 30th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
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Billy in Baton Rouge says:
Word as of 3:30 or so is McClain is down to Clemson or LSU with Clemson in the lead…
January 30th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
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Mr Pelican Pants says:
The way Julio Jones is playing it close to the vest is so he can make a splash on signing day, kinda like the Tebow thing….taking visits around the country, just checkin out the coeds I am sure……Lest ye ferget, Pat White was an early LSU VERBAL who wanted to play QB but was recruited as a WR, and decided on WVU on signing day since they said he could play QB there..
Word on the street is that Julio’s mom is lookin for EZ money on a lower Reggie-Bush like scale…..just sayin…..But from people I know who would know is that he has been a done deal at Bama….hell I ran into him at the Foley Wal-Mart last week ….the hot chick in the checkout line said Roll Tide as he walked out the door and got into his buddys Tahoe
January 30th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
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The Song of Hiawatha Francisco says:
@ Pants (#32),
While I agree that ND underachieved this past season, and the blame for that falls squarely on Weis and his staff, to your point, it’s hard for freshmen and sophomores to stand out when they’re surrounded by other freshmen and sophomores. A couple freshman can make a difference when they’re surrounded by experience, since their assignments will usually be relatively simple and they can count on the other guys to do their jobs. But when 9 of the 11 guys out there are babies, you’ll have multiple screw-ups on every play that keep anyone from standing out. Just my overpriced $.02.
January 30th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
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oc phil says:
Wow, the domers are touchy today.
I think USC fans have as much to be happy about with this recruiting cycle as anyone when you also factor in the Razorback refugees who will become eligible next year and the fact that Cushing and Rey Rey decided not to jump to the NFL.
My reaction to Julio Jones was that he’s doing a smart thing by avoiding the media frenzy.
I like Andy Staples column quite a bit, but he might want to get a new photo on SI.com. The current one looks like he’s got a pretty bright shade of lipstick on. I assume he’s not trying to become the Eddie Izzard of recruiting. Not that there’s anything wrong with that I suppose.
January 30th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
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Brian O'Blivion says:
Eddie Izzard = Executive Transvestite = funny motherfucker
January 30th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
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beckett929 says:
@ #32 –
I cited a specific example, yes… but how many people had Kansas, Mizzou, Wf’nVU, Louisville, Wake Forest as teams that ever have top 10 classes? Yet, I’ve seen these teams over the past couple years compete and win their conferences and BCS games….
Coaching counts more than recruits, its why Randy Shannon and Charlie Weis suck and Bobby Petrino had a 40something – 9 record at Louisville…
January 30th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
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Doctor Strange says:
I saw Darrell Scott in a CIF playoff game last season. Now, I know this guy is well regarded, but I have to say I was not blown away.
Totally anecdotal on my part, it was just one game, but I didnt walk away thinking I just saw the next “Eric Dickerson/LaDanian Tomlinson/Reggie Bush”. Thought he was a nice player, but didnt dominate or blow me away.
UCLA had a home visit last night, but the word is that he’s going to Texas.
January 30th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
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DarthGatorOne says:
ESPN has Florida’s recruiting class currently ranked number one, both in terms of recruiting the top 150 and in terms of addressing needs. We’re happy, so to Hell with UGA.
January 30th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:
Pants and beckett,
Recruiting rankings do matter if you consistently pull in top classes. It generally means you’re signing more guys with the potential to be studs than other programs. At the same time, drooling over an individual recruit and getting caught up in a will he or won’t he scenario is silly. There are far too many huge recruits who have done nothing in college to assume that Pryor or anyone else will automatically be able to make the transition. If post-Richt (along with other important assistants) FSU has taught me anything, it’s that you have to have at least adequate coaching to win at a respectable level and good to great coaching to reach the heights.
January 30th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
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PaulC says:
I fuckin hate Chris Berman.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
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sj says:
There should be a star number assigned for attitude as well as obvious physical talent. Pouting, disgruntled, selfish ‘high school can’t-miss 5 star recruits’ with poor attitudes can clearly ruin team game day performance. Hasn’t that been part of Tenn’s. problem lately?
January 31st, 2008 at 9:06 am