RANDY MOSS HAS ALWAYS BEEN UNBELIEVABLY AWESOME

the hurdle was a nice touch. not to take anything away from randy, but we’re talking about maybe one of the greatest recievers ever playing against army. it was bound to happen.

I’m pretty sure there weren’t any 4.4 corners on that field that day.

The guy looks and moves like a gazelle on the Serengeti.

DAT BOY GOOD!!!!!!

Isn’t this the same guy who took a parking attendant for a ride on the hood of his car?

If Randy Moss had played on a team with a good QB from day one, I see no reason why he wouldn’t already have every conceivable receiving record. He is physically the most talented player I’ve ever seen.

Cunningham, Johnson and Culpepper weren’t good? I mean they weren’t the best evah, like Tawwmy Fahkin’ Brady, but still.

I think recent history has shown that Culpepper looked really good because of who he was throwing too, and not the other way around. Johnson and Cunningham were both decent, but not elite.

The 98 Vikings team with Moss, who the NFL had no answer for/clue about, and Cunningham, who had a rocket launcher for an arm, was one of my favorite teams ever. I believe they held the most points record before this year’s Pats.

Hmm…two highest scoring teams in history…one common factor…

ATTN people who put up sports videos on the internet:

find better music.

that is all

Oh, and if he hadn’t got kicked out of Notre Dame and played there…he’d be bigger than Jesus and I’m not kidding. Think Rocket Ismail times a bagazillion.

That play is amazing. It has it all. Wow.

Is anyone else completely sick of that damn song on every friggin’ Youtube highlight? I’d rather hear James Taylor at this point.

carlinthemarlin,

Recent history has shown that Culpepper blew a knee and couldn’t get it back together. Recent history also showed Randy Moss do nothing for two years in Oakland. The guy’s a great receiver, but his QBs are not the reason he doesn’t have a bunch of records. Cris Carter lining up opposite him for his first several years and injuries probably have more to do with it than anything.

Actually, I take back my reasons above. The reason Moss doesn’t already have the receiving records already is that he’s played in about half as many games as Rice. His numbers are slightly better to date (including a couple of years in Minnesota that were almost as good as the one he’s having this year, better in some areas).

Didnt Moss originally attend Notre Dame?

Somehow I completely forgot that Cris Carter was there at the same time as Moss. Can you imagine trying to defend that duo as a defensive coordinator?

Also, the oakland thing, who was throwing to him? Exactly.

“The 98 Vikings team with Moss, who the NFL had no answer for/clue about”

Yeah, and remember that Super Bowl they won that year? Oh wait a minute… someone did have an answer. The largest assortment of almost-weres ever put on one professional sports team beat Minnesota in Minnesota in the NFC Championship Game. A team coached by the patron saint of losing Super Bowls with Chris Chandler at the helm hurling footballs to Tony Martin and Terrance Mathis and the awesome running prowess of Jamal Anderson running behind the whitest offensive line in all of sports. THAT team beat Minnesota. Minnesota had a great year but on par with this year’s Pats (or even in the same conversation)? No. Not at all.

Offensively they rolled. They just couldn’t always get it done on the other side of the ball.

Meh.

Seriously, saw this guy’s act up close both in the MAC and in the NFC Central. Great physical skills, no doubt. Complete buffoon and team cancer who almost certainly prevented the Vikings from winning a title in the late 90s/early 00s. And the book on him hasn’t changed from the afternoon in ‘97 when Miami (the one in Oxford, Ohio), completely shut him down: smack him hard a couple of times early in the game, and he’s a non-factor. The guy shies away from contact. Look at what SD did last weekend. Pounded on him for a quarter, and by the second half, he was breaking off routes and jogging on a few plays.

That he’s on a team that’s way too talented and disciplined for even Moss to screw up doesn’t make Randy look any better, IMO. It’s just made him more likeable since he’s winning now, much like Dennis Rodman on the ‘96-’98 Chicago Bulls.

If we’re picking “former Marshall receivers to start on my NFL team,” I’m taking Troy Brown every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Damn straight you just read that…

15 -

He originally signed is the Irish but then got arrested and had his letter of intent revoked. After that, ND told him to sign with FSU since Bowden is known for taking players that are “troubled”, but he someone managed to fuck that up by getting arrested for drug possession and again got rejected by FSU.

Having said that, he is the MOST TALENTED wide receiever EVER

If we’re picking “former Marshall receivers to start on my NFL team,” I’m taking Troy Brown every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Damn straight you just read that…

Really? Cause, uh, the Pats definitely disagree.

I was a Football Manager for Army from 97-01 (read Waterboy). I still maintain to this day that that play was the single most athletic play I have ever seen in person. It wasn’t just the juke or the hurdle over poor Scott Williams, but his acceleration was incredible. It wouldn’t have mattered who was on the field for that one play… no one would have caught him.

“Really? Cause, uh, the Pats definitely disagree.”

You know Brown is six years older than Moss and turns 37 this year, right?

I didn’t think an “in their prime” qualifier was necessary for that sort of age differential, even on the Internets…

Part of the reason that Brady hadn’t put up elite numbers prior to this season is that he was throwing to people like Troy Brown. I’m sure Brown’s a nicer guy than Moss, but nobody in their right mind would take him in his prime over even a slightly declining Randy Moss, let alone the one who has displayed a return to form this year.

He actually went through a spring practice at FSU in 96. He was dominant and it’s still talked about in Tallahassee.

Really? “Nobody in their right mind” would take the consumate team player, who catches everything thrown his way, is willing to go over the middle, can take a hit and hang on to the ball, springs his teammates with downfield blocks, and wears three Super Bowl rings over a wildly talented head case who has personally torpedoed at least two potential title teams with his selfish play and still, as of this moment, is championship-free? A guy who the Raiders — one of the worst teams in football — felt they needed to get rid of for pennies on the dollar?

His accent is what kills me. Sounds like Earnest T. Bass.

You’re probably right. It’s not like the Patriots had a better QB than Minnesota or a better defense or better coaching or something crazy like that. It was Moss purposely tanking every playoff game that Minnesota lost, because he’s such a selfish asshole.

Papa Lou – please stop while some of us think you are a little bit sane.

#20

saw the gym up close on the same field i played on 8 years later. he single-handedly destroyed my high school football team in the playoffs, and i remember him and jason williams (white guy) putting on clinics in basketball later that year. unreal talent.

if my memory serves me correctly, he lost the notre dame scholly for nearly beating a kid to death over a racial slur, and then lost the fsu bid because of the sticky

and by “gym” i meant “guy”.

Most talented ever? That would be Jerry Rice, without question. Let me know when Randy Moss ever approaches these numbers.

22,895 – receiving yards, career
14 – 1k yard receiving seasons
197 – TD’s
17 – seasons with 50+ catches
1,549 – pass receptions
6 – years leading the league in yards gained
76 – 100+ yard receiving games
6 – years leading league in TD’s

That’s just a few of his records. Who was throwing the ball was irrelevant. Rice would routinely catch a 6 yard slant and turn it into a 60 yard touchdown. Best receiver, evah.

the dude is sick. oh yea, nice down field block at .46 too.

#33, Talent and numbers do not always add up. Rice made the most of his abilities. Moss… not so much. Thats not even taking into account # of games played by the two. The eyeball test, to me, indicates that Moss is the more “talented” of the two, not the better “football player.”

Randy Moss will break all of Jerry Rices records

Who hasn’t beaten somebody almost to death for a racial slur? C’mon.

I graduated from DuPont High School and followed the Randy Moss saga pretty closely. 31 has it pretty close to correct. He was offered a schollie to ND (along with his full back, Bobby Howard). Before he graduated, he beat a kid into a coma at the gym. It was said to be over a racial slur, if that is the only case, he could have beat like 50 kids into a coma. Anyway that cost him his ND scholarship. He got offered by FSU afterwards, and FSU got a bit of grief for taking him after his beating…Then he got caught smoking the dopage…Then he transferred to Marshall, who was at the time a 1AA school, so he didnt have to sit out.

That class at that little WV school had 4 professional athletes: Randy Moss, Bobby Howard (ND and Chicago), Jason Williams (NBA) and a kid named Sam Singleton who played pro baseball for a time.

While I don’t have time for this shit (been looking for an offensive coordinator), I will tell you that chad pennington reminds me of good erik ainge in that film

I was actually in West Point for that when I was 12. He had a 79 yarder that day too.

The most amazing stat is that Moss had a TD in all 28 games he played for the Herd.

33 -

No doubt, Rice is the greastest ever…But I’d have to say that there no arguing that Moss has greater physical abilities

Biggus, I’m calling BS on Culpepper’s bum knee excuse.

I forget which year it was, but the first year after Moss left, the Vikings started off 0-7 with Culpepper, then he blew his knee out. After that, Brad Johnson came in with the same team and reeled off 7 straight wins.

Needless to say, I was overjoyed when the Jags elected not to sign him after he left Miami.

The only thing I can think of that is remotely comparable to getting kicked out of FSU would be Dickie Betts getting kicked out of the Allman Brothers for excessive drinking. How big of a lush to you have to be before Gregg Allman thinks you need to cut back?

Randy Moss reminds me a scarecrow on crack, his nickname on the street during the breakdancing craze would be Crazy Leggs……They didnt call him the Super Freak for nuthin………Just think if he would have played on teams like the Patriots or Green Bay earlier in his career with a really good team around him….he would have sick numbers…No wonder Brett Farve threw a hissy fit this past offseason when they didnt get him…..

PW,

You’re right that he got off to a bad start before the injury, but it is interesting to note that Moss’ worst year in Minnesota coincided with Culpepper’s best.

41 – I agree that Moss is more physically gifted than Rice was. So is Terrell Owens. That doesn’t make either of them more talented. Rice was not a “jump ball” kind of receiver, so if you are basing talent just on that, I would choose Moss too.

There is more to talent as a receiver than being 6’4" and running fast. Same is true of running backs. Just take a look at Barry Sanders. Lots of RB’s were more physically gifted than him, but few have been more talented.

Rice is to the receiver position what Barry Sanders was to running. He turned nothing plays into long gains. He ran every route perfectly, and his yards after catch were unsurpassed because he could see the field as good as any running back.

#36, you’re dreaming if you think Moss will break Rice’s records. He’s nowhere close. Even the single season TD record he broke, Rice set his in a strike shortened season.

papaloubsu is correct. I have never understood why NFL teams can’t seem to do what Miami did to Moss that day. He caught a long TD on the first or second play of the game, I believe, against about a 5’9’’ corner. After that, Miami put the corner in bump and run coverage and smacked Moss in the chest/facemask within the five yard limit…hard…on every single play. I don’t believe he caught another ball the rest of the day.

Dude don’t like to get hit. If you “respect his speed,” he’ll kill you. Smack him in the grill every play and he disappears.

#33—Tough to say ‘who was throwing the ball was irrelevant’ when Rice spent almost his entire career catching balls from Joe Montana and Steve Young, unless you mean ‘he played well with either of the two HOF QBs throwing to him’.