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January 18, 2008

OH MY.

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FWIW: we think you could hear this sentiment in any number of other SEC tailgates.

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186 Responses to “OH MY.”

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Last Dragon says:

#96 – You got that right!!!!!!

January 18th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
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BronxTiger says:

I don’t think it is racist to say that while living in NO in the 90’s, I was mugged three times by black males. Now, I live in the South Bronx in a neighborhood where mine is one of the very few white faces, and have not one problem at all. At 4 p.m. or 4 a.m.

There is something going on with the mindset of that segment of the population in NO where crime is ok, and that the people they rob, injure, and murder also owe them something (via the government) for just being alive and living in this country.

January 18th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
103

TigerNacho says:

Thread summary:
Humanity sucks. More bunda, please.

January 18th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
104

Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:

#100, how about this one;

Divided America United by Love of Bodacious Bunda

January 18th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
105

Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:

….or a good set of Tattas…

January 18th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
106

hunglikehussain says:

Googled images of the lovely Miss Jaramillo.

Well worth it.

January 18th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
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UTEx says:

per #98…

I was too shocked too comment. I know there is still overt racism in the south, but gads. That was horrific. I wonder if those guys even went to college.

Not that Texas would fare any better. If you want a good scare, try heading on down to College Station, the Panhandle area, Waco and, everyone’s personal favorite, Vidor. There is a reason that Koresh settled in the Waco area. But I digress…

January 18th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
108

UTEx says:

Oops… to comment.

I really did graduate from a good university. I swear.

January 18th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
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kleph says:

i love louisiana and i’m proud to say i’m from there but this is a viciously ugly fact of life about the place that makes it the sad reality i’ll probably never go back.

working at a newspaper in the middle of the state�s rural heartland i can assure you, this behavior is more common at every social level than one would feel comfortable admitting. and the incidents themselves were not what i found disturbed me to my core, but rather the fact they were not only permitted but, deemed acceptable by complacency.

so much so that it might be worth counting the number of responses in this thread where the folks admit this behavior isn’t even particular egregious compared to other examples they have witnessed. we�ve become inured to the behavior and that�s the true tragedy here.

lastly, it should be noted that the video shows a privileged white man in attendance of an event where young black men are prized for nothing more than their physical skill isn’t irony, it’s a sad truism about how little progress has been made in this country over the last 150 years.

January 18th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
110

Dr. Cruz says:

Give me a fucking break! The guy doing most of the talking in this video is right on point.

You’ll find plenty of black folks who will tell you the same thing. These lazy bastards need to take a break from the constant breeding, stay in school, and get jobs.

January 18th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:

Kleph,

Please, the problem is not that we’ve become inured. Look at the fucking past. Look up the black face shit that went down in the thirties and forties. Look at the sixties when white folk turned fucking hoses on people. The idea that the country is worse now than it was is laughable. Yes, racism exists, but race relations are good deal better than they used to be. It’s not saying much, but fuck, let’s not overreact to some douchebags at a tailgate.

January 18th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
112

JoeBob says:

Recipe for instant publicity:

Take a video camera and ask a bunch of drunk people questions about a racially charged issue.

January 18th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
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kleph says:

but is isn’t just douchebags at a tailgate. it’s something that exists as a sort of background assumption no-one ever mentions but believes.

douchebag simply was crass enough to say it but he’s not the real problem. the real problem is the fact his opinion as well as his behavior are both pretty much accepted as “the way things are.” need proof? simply look at the asinine comment that followed mine.

bottom line, it’s wrong. and until that becomes generally understood as well as the prevaling sentiment, the situation is not going to change.

January 18th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:

kleph,

We aren’t going to change the beliefs of people in these comment threads. Things improve ever so gradually. We’ve gone from slavery to a generally benign form of racism. Hopefully someday people will be color blind and truly judge each other on their merits. All we can really do is act that way, and even then we still have our own little bigotries.

January 18th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
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kleph says:

but simply wringing our hands and bemoaning the state of affars (while excorating the said offender) is a bit close to washing them of the mess.

January 18th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:

Would you prefer to march on New Orleans? Ultimately, raising the lot of black people would solve the problem, but how the fuck do you do that? Government programs, it seems to me, have crippled that community. White racists won’t come around until black people come around to the capitalist/entrepreneurial society we’ve created. If you have the answers you’re a better man then everyone who has existed in this country for the past century.

January 18th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
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kleph says:

what i do know is that insisting on polarizing the situation – from either side – will do nothing to solve the ongoing and severe problems the state faces. and, guess what, the racial makeup of new orleans has actually gotten more complex since katrina.

calling this kind of diatribe what it is – racist – is a key start to dealing with it. having the courage to tell your buddy at the tailgate to shut the fuck up because he’s being a racist douchebag would help too. and talking plainly about why a video like this is rehensible rather than simply adding to the swell of snark that has become so popular on the internet is gonna help too.

January 18th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
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JoeBob says:

I saw one racist heckler who accounted for roughly three seconds of video time and another semi-sober fellow who made, what I thought, were many valid points. I don’t see this as a piercing glimpse behind the veil of New Orleans society. And given that I actually lived in the city for years, I can tell you that racism is far, far from a one way street.

January 18th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:

So you’ve convinced every white person to bury their racism and walk on eggshells. The basic problems don’t go away. Perhaps denegration has contributed to the problem, but that doesn’t explain fully why black people have been stuck in a seemingly endless cycle.

January 18th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
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bryan from los angeles says:

why on earth is this chick interviewing a bunch of drunk guys at a tailgate party about the projects?

and yes, affordable housing should be torn down in any area that a city is trying to develop. whether the inhabitants are white, black or brown, “affordable housing” breads societal ills.

Ask Houston about the people rescued from the New Orleans projects. How well did it work out for them? Skyrocketing crime rate. Doubled murder rate.

Dynamite is right… and if you read race into my comment, you’re an idiot. These comments are not about race or class, it’s about a system that’s been broken for decades in liberal New Orleans and other big cities.

January 18th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
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DC Trojan says:

@ 106 – 114, skipping Dr Cruz: it’s poverty exacerbated by racism which is exacerbated by visibility. I don’t see people going on about why it is that all these crackers in Appalachia are still getting married at 15 and living in double wides when they hit the big time. They’re white and invisible by virtue of distance.

The sad reality is poverty reinforces itself – and some people who are in it, don’t give a shit, and some of them are working the system to their benefit. But turning your back on the people who want out but don’t know how is pathetic.

January 18th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
122

PaulC says:

I fuckin hate Chris Berman.

January 19th, 2008 at 1:15 am
123

Bay Area Bear says:

Wait wait wait wait, southerners being racist?

GET OUTTA HERE!!!!!

January 19th, 2008 at 3:32 am
124

NoVaDamer says:

This thread is too good to let go (sorry Orson). It deserves to live on. I suggest we coin a phrase.
Tiger-gate. (ty-gur-gat) verb, to rant in an uneducated and offensive manner, especially under the influence of alcohol, about sensitive topics. Examples: “I started to walk down the alley behind the stadium, and I stumbled across some LSU fans tigergating there.” “Hillary, don’t tigergate me”–B. Obama

January 19th, 2008 at 7:57 am
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King Harvest says:

#92
That is the stupidest shit I have read in a while.

Where does Starkville and Auburn fall into your categorization? They are all geographically close, but only the racists hang out in Tuscaloosa and Oxford? Moron…. maybe I am the moron for responding to such ignorance

January 19th, 2008 at 7:58 am
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Biggus Rickus says:

DC Trojan,

I by no means advocate leaving broke people to their fate. I’m sure someone smarter than me has come up with some better way to aid them without creating a dependancy on that aid, but I have no idea how you could do it. As to the broke crackers in their trailers, you’re right to an extent. They’re rarely encountered by most people. But the disproportionate percentage of blacks living in poverty is another big reason why people talk about it.

January 19th, 2008 at 8:16 am
127

Silver Shoes says:

*…a generally benign form of racism…*

Here’s a newsflash: NO form of racism is benign.

Statements like this make me think the idiocracy is taking over.

January 19th, 2008 at 8:23 am
128

Annapolis Doug says:

I wonder who won the game?

January 19th, 2008 at 8:50 am
129

Annapolis Doug says:

Wait wait wait wait, Bay Area people being gay?

GET OUTTA HERE!!!!!

(homophobic also)

January 19th, 2008 at 8:51 am
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hunglikehussain says:

One of the points made in the video, concerned “transitional” housing. This is housing which IS NOT an entitlement.

Similar in form and substance is “transitional” employment (i.e. minimum wage jobs) and “transitional” education (i.e. High school). These aspects should never be considered a permanent lifestyle, but rather a beginning to improve ones self.

January 19th, 2008 at 10:21 am
131

Cock D says:

I guess getting a job would be easier if our government (Ds and Rs) didn’t think it such a swell idea to move factory jobs to China, IT jobs to india, and allow illegal immigrants in to mop up the bulk of the low level jobs…

And don’t give me the “Americans won’t do those jobs” – Plenty of them will, just has to be at a price that is commensurate with the American economy; There’s a reason illegals live 10 to a 2 bedroom apartment – that’s not the American standard of living.

January 19th, 2008 at 10:57 am
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Biggus Rickus says:

Silver Shoes,

In the sense of a tumor, yes, benign. It’s bad, but it isn’t malignant. And it’s a big improvement over church bombings and cross burnings.

January 19th, 2008 at 11:02 am
133

eric y says:

we have done extensive research on the issue of racism and sammie and jay whitlow think the best option is to erect a fence along the old mason-dixon line, similar to the one we are trying to erect along the mexican border. whitlow also recommends a new “green card” type system so that passage between the north and south is regulated. maybe then those stupid yankees would stay home.

January 19th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
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hunglikehussain says:

@131

Ross Perot and NAFTA ring a bell?

Really, it is our fault, our representatives are not there because of a coup d’ e’tat.

January 19th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
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oc phil says:

The thing is both the democratic and republican parties love illegal immigration.

The republican party loves it because of the economic boost it gives to the big money corporate interests (even though the rank and file hate it).

The democrats love it because they see people coming into the county that will be their natural supporters even though it hurts the economic position of most of their actual voters (for example, construction jobs in California used to be good jobs that paid well, now they are done by illegal immigrants for low pay).

#132. eric y forgot that you tried that 150 years ago and LOST.

January 19th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
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Drunken Omelette says:

I look forward to their lecture series on reduced crack cocain sentences.

January 19th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
137

MakersMarkReb says:

Oh please, Haybeav. You could take a video camera to any campus in America and find people who would say something like this – not just in the SEC.

And, other than dropping the N-bomb, a lot of what the guy said was pretty accurate. Something is definitely wrong with several generations of the same families grow up what is supposed to be TRANSITIONAL public housing. It’s what we like to call a cycle of poverty.

And, I wasn’t in NOLA, so I can’t say for sure. But, I’d be willing to bet this lady took the camera around interviewing LSU fans all day to find some drunk idiots who would say something like this. She got exactly what she wanted. I wonder how many decent interviews with decent LSU fans never made it to the upload button on her Youtube account.

January 19th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
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CJH says:

These dudes are just upset that their racist, cousin-fucking, treasonous great-great-great-great-grandpappies ran out of honor and courage halfway through Pickett’s Charge.

General Sherman’s only mistake was that he ran out of matches.

The SEC could win the next 20 national championships for all I care, we still have scoreboard from Gettysburg.

January 19th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
139

AtlDomer says:

Has anyone else mentioned that none of these drunk idiots had southern accents? As a son of the South who went north to school and married someone from the west coast – I feel compelled to tell all of you – THE MOST RACIST PEOPLE IN AMERICA LIVE IN THE NORTHEAST OR IN THE WEST (ESPECIALLY CALIFORNIA). So many of these people have moved to Atlanta and for some reason they feel like all the white people who grew up here “must hate blacks and jews and hispanics” like they do – so they just spew it all the time around me. In fact, my wife’s parents and their friends from California are the most racist people I have ever encountered.

Unless I’ve had too many beers already today – I could swear most of those guys had a New England or Midwest accent.

January 19th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
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hunglikehussain says:

@136

Sounded kind of “Cajun” to me.

January 19th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
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DC Trojan says:

Biggus Rickus @ 126 – there’s been an idea kicking around since the 60s that instead of subsidizing unemployment with welfare, we should subsidize employment by topping up wages for jobs that don’t pay much.

To cross into another area of the thread, instead of having the economics of the restaurant business dictate $5 / hour under the table to an illegal immigrant, let the restaurant pay $5 to a citizen, and have the feds add an extra $3 / hour on top. Not exactly a great wage, but cheaper than welfare.

HungLikeHussain @ 130 – Minimum wage jobs are transitional? The data says otherwise my friend – there are always going to be jobs that don’t pay much and more of those than ones that pay a lot. There’s nothing transitional about it.

Cock D @ 131 – You’re blaming the wrong people about exporting jobs – it’s market pressure and trying to stop it is a waste of time. No point in raging against market capitalism when it doesn’t go your way, right? Because that would be lazy and failing to manage transitions.

Going back to our friends the illegal immigrants for a minute – they get jobs partly because they work off the books, and partly because they will actually pick up and move somewhere to get the jobs that exist. And they adapt their lifestyle to the wages rather than complain that it isn’t the other way around.

At the risk of playing into the hands of the yahoos in the video, I do believe that there comes a point where – if there are no jobs where you live – you either move or start something yourself. But people of all hues and economic strata don’t want to do that, whether they assembled cars in Ohio or cleaned toilets in New Orleans before they lost their jobs. And this is a free society, we can’t make people move.

So on that basis, like I said above, I’d rather see the government subsidize work or provide micro-credit to allow people to pull themselves up, but when the incentives are to sit in place and do nothing, I’m not going to allocate the blame solely to the butt-sitters.

January 19th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
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hunglikehussain says:

DC, the idea that we should stop subsidizing unemployment and instead subsidize employment has merit IF welfare is stopped. However, “a government that bases its existence on robbing Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul”.
Also, “from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs”. [just throwing out random quotes for discussion].

As for minimum wage jobs being “transitional”, I still think they provide a means of motivation and discipline, but should not be viewed as any semblance to maintaining a lifestyle.

January 19th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
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The Gospel According to Tebow says:

what would bill cosby say?

January 19th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
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Annapolis Doug says:

I love everyone making blanket statements about people from the South….in their criticizing those LSU losers for making blanket statements about black people.

What’s the difference?

January 19th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
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Bay Area Bear says:

I love people from Annapolis trying to sound like they have half a brain, in their criticizing of a certain region that is about 1% gay out of the total population.

January 19th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
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Bay Area Bear says:

#136:

California is 35% hispanic, 12% asian, 5% black, and 48% white…nobody can afford to be racist with that kind of heterogeneity.

January 19th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
147

Kecalf Bailey says:

But they make it sooooo easy……

January 19th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
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Annapolis Doug says:

BayArea- see post 123…I was just stereotyping like you did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJO5BKPDkaw

What’s the difference?

January 19th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
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hunglikehussain says:

@145

ZING!

January 19th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
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Bay Area Bear says:

#145

The difference is, pretty much everyone on this forum is saying “yeah, go to any SEC tailgate and that’s what you’ll hear.”

I’ve been to 5 Pac-10 stadiums and never _ EVER heard anything remotely like that.

But you decided to play all Jefferson Davis and get your panties in a knot over some Nawthanah insultin yo tradishins.

And what, is posting a parade of some gays supposed to be an insult? I’m not gay and I’m not made uncomfortable by gays, but it sounds like you sure are. Grow up.

January 19th, 2008 at 5:25 pm