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January 18, 2008

OH MY.

From SBB:

FWIW: we think you could hear this sentiment in any number of other SEC tailgates.

Filed under: Uncategorized by Orson Swindle

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186 Responses to “OH MY.”

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haybeav says:

Is this video supposed to be a surprise to anyone who has ever been to any tailgate at ANY SEC school? I thought the video was rather tame

January 18th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
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Jett Rink says:

*Blink*

What?

January 18th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
3

poguemahone says:

@1

Seriously? This crap actually happens? I thought it was just an immature running joke by fans of other conferences.

January 18th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
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haybeav says:

DYNAMITE!!!!

January 18th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
5

Jerkwheat says:

This confirms it:

All southern white men are racist crackers. The Youtubes confirm everything!!!

MY WHOLE LIFE HAS BEEN A LIE!!!!

January 18th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:

Give us southerners credit, at least we’re overt with our racism. There’s no guesswork involved. And yes, I’ve cringed while listening to similar conversations in Athens.

January 18th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
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haybeav says:

To clarify, its not something that happens most tailgates, but you probably don’t have to look very hard to find doche’s like these. Its one of those things where they talk like this only after they’ve look around to make sure no black people are in the vicinity

January 18th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
8

etsuVol says:

Who doesn’t want to live in a city made of chocolate?

January 18th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
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AJY says:

Glad someone else thought that this wasn’t TOO out of the ordinary. As sad as that is to say, growing up in the south, you can find this attitude in a varying number of places, not just tailgates. I am not saying I advocate it, but it exists. I thought this was a little mild, especially after the warning I was given over on Deadspin. The north must be a happier place.

January 18th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
10

That Dog says:

You can say that again.

January 18th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
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Mark D says:

Oh for cryin’ out loud…. We’ve alredy seen this before. Anyone remember the college kids from Borat?

January 18th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
12

gerry dorsey says:

i am rolling at this…but not b/c i’m racist…its b/c i hate lsu fans.

January 18th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
13

Kim says:

This video should never have been posted by EDSBS. I’m from the south
and its disgusting!

January 18th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
14

The Bitches in Old Russia says:

The average caste-football reader caught on tape!

January 18th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
15

Kernel says:

#11
Amen, brother. I support any and all exposure of Tiger Trash

January 18th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
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JD says:

These same guys would probably tell you that Jamarcus Russell was the greatest quarterback ever.

January 18th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
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Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:

Huh? Dept;

How can those SEC rednecks hate the Black man so much in one instance, and once they get inside the stadium cheer and cry louder than anyone else in favor of the Black men playing for their team? Contradiction?!

Out here on the West Coast, racism is more subtle, which is probably worse than the overt racism of the South.

Me: I make fun of everyone!

January 18th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
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Your Mom Loves LSU says:

In the interest of fairness, Bruno gives you homophobes in gump land.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnB5vqObkLw

January 18th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
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Rival says:

It’s not usually displayed in this manner because there usually aren’t people with video cameras asking these types of questions.

I’m sure the questioner has a certain objective here.

DISCLAIMER: I am white and consider myself as more liberal than my metro Atlanta peers.

However, having dealt with housing issues in several communities I do agree with one of the sentiments expressed by one of the individuals (the guy who did most of the talking at the beginning).

People do get accustomed to living in certain surroundings no matter how atrocious they might become. People who live in “transitional” housing or public assistance housing for any length of time will begin to identify that area as their neighborhood. People fearing change would rather stay where they are familiar. I’m sure some members of the populace are just fine with where they live because it offers a market for certain illegal activity, but that can happen anywhere.

Anywho, I’ve seen 80 year old ladies who refuse to even join the discussion about moving (temporarily) while housing conditions are improved because it’s “their” neighborhood. I’ve seen families refuse to cooperate with CDBG projects that would give them funds to fix up their own house because they feared the government was coming in to check on other things.

And maybe those feelings are somewhat justified given history.

So the N-word guy was blatantly racist, but I wouldn’t condemn all the others for expressing their disapproval of life in the projects.

And I just opened up a can of worms….

January 18th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
20

rfp says:

I bet they smell like corndogs.

January 18th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
21

Herbie's Raging Hardon says:

This is the exact reason I cannot stand the south. As an OSU fan, I had (for the most part) a good time down in New Orleans, however I saw so much shit like this going on and could not believe how absurd the entire situation was.

OSU and OSU fans often get portrayed as a bunch of uneducated drunken rednecks (especially by UM fans), but we have nothing on anyone from the SEC.

I agree very strongly with #15 above, how can these people have so much hate for black people outside the stadium but then support them so strongly inside the stadium? It really doesn’t make sense to me…..

January 18th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
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gerry dorsey says:

hey #19

stay up north then. nobody’s gonna miss you down here.

January 18th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
23

oc phil says:

Come on now, we have established precedents about the way we handle these things.

Notre Dame fans are branded as child molesters.

tOSU fans get jokes about libraries and porn.

These guys now represent LSU.

January 18th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
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MST3K says:

The only reason you don’t see this more up northeast is a near-total disregard for college football there; replace the tailgate with a local bar though. . . . Now, I don’t know about the Midwest, but it’s a mistake to think this is a Southern problem. Imagine those guys with Southie accents, or Jersey accents, the scenario is equally plausible.

And I don’t say that as an excuse. Rather, we do ourselves and our society a disservice by pretending that the problem is regional.

January 18th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:

Herbie,

I’ve met OSU people who were every bit as racist as these dudes. As to the seeming paradox of hating black people and rooting for black people, it’s basically that racists in the south tend to dislike black people as a group but not on an individual basis (at least not simply because said individual is black).

January 18th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:

MST3K,

We also do ourselves a disservice by pretending racism only flows one way.

January 18th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
27

MightyMightyMitzu says:

Yeah, so a guy I graduated with goes to school in Flint, Michigan and says the white kids up there call the black kids “Mondays” because noone likes Mondays. Vaguely hiding your racism doesn’t make it any tamer than the South’s.

January 18th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
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The Humanitarian says:

And this is why I am a Pac-10 football fan.

January 18th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
29

Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:

Inferior Race Question Dept:

When I talk to people and they start complaining about how bad African Americans are (low test scores, low income, jail population numbers, death rates…) I ask them a simple question;

Are African Americans inferior to Whites and other races? The answer is always “No”.

Then I ask them what has contributed to African Americans having, as a whole, those statistics. The answers then come back as being from poor families, or single parent households, poor infrastructure (schools, housing, parks, blah, blah, blah).

So, people born on second or third base should feel fortunate that they started there in life, as opposed to other people that started out not even in the game to begin with…..

…enough of this stuff….too heavy……

…where are the pictures of the women with big shiny butts?

January 18th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
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NOLA man says:

The use of the “N” word by the one individual is deplorable, but otherwise the statements are an accurate commentary about a group of people that doesn’t want the city to pull itself up by the bootstraps. If you aren’t from NOLA, you have no appreciation for the subject matter or the context of the statements.

January 18th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
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Rival says:

Right…’cause there are no racists out west. Can I ask your opinion on South American immigration patters?

Also, I have friends in Boston who regularly say they are “glad there aren’t as many black people up here as in Atlanta”. I don’t know if that’s demographically true, but they say it.

Anyway, racism sucks. But, in my opinion, there are specific arguments about the actions of certain groups that are fair game. Though most of the LSU group in the video seems to prefer the former.

January 18th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
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AULIVESNFTWORTH says:

I dont get it, They are racist because they said “Niggaz” and “go get a job”?

Please….Go live in New Orleans then come talk to me about the issues there….

January 18th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
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The Dude, Man says:

A couple of things. As a white male who grew up in the fine state of Alabama, this video was tame. The main speaker didn’t say anything that i haven’t hear about a million times from almost anybody, even the more cosmopolitan types with money. Is it sad, i don’t know, that’s the way it is.

They can hate outside the stadium the same way it probably happened during roman times when gladiators fought in the coliseum. Winning is colorblind.

And please don’t act like the south is the only place where this “racism” exists. A joke told to me by some college age Germans shows the rest of the world hates other countries and ethnicities in much the same way. ” What do you call a Swede on a bike? A thief.” For those not college educated the funny part of the joke is that the swede stole the bike he is riding.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
34

Tony the Tiger says:

Damnnation! This makes me sick.

(LSU fan here)

January 18th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
35

Irwin Fletcher says:

@19. Columbus, OH bastion of racial harmony, I’m sure. There are frickin idiots of every race and creed all across this great nation.

To claim some sort of regional superiority is self-stroking, ignorant, and naive. Something a self-proclaimed OSU fan should know a lot about.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
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AULIVESNFTWORTH says:

Rational reply to the video Check the link…..

All you “doo-gooders” are a little lame. The video was funny, somewhat distasteful but funny…

January 18th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
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JD says:

Racists are a subset of stupid people and, unfortunately, there are stupid people everywhere. Natural selection my ass.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
38

AULIVESNFTWORTH says:

Sorry here is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLRHUNjKVTE&watch_response

January 18th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
39

godawgs says:

Can I get an AMEN???!!! Thank God these guys had the balls to speak the truth…

GO GET A FUCKING JOB AND QUIT EXPECTING ME AND EVERYONE ELSE TO PAY YOUR WAY THROUGH LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

January 18th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
40

Brian says:

Honestly some of the points that one guy was making seemed somewhat valid — not knowing anything about any of this. I wasn’t clear as to the woman who was filming’s purpose. If she paid so much in taxes as she claimed, then why would she want to be footing the bill for housing projects and the like?

Yea anyway, keep the political garbage off EDSBS.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:

AULIVESNFTWORTH,

What was funny about the video? A drunk dude shouting “Niggaz, get a job!” and the like? Yes, the link you posted was rational and some of the points the main guy was making were valid. That doesn’t make many of the statements made by his friends and himself any less racist.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
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Orson Swindle says:

Brian, agreed. Please keep responses to the glib, high-ironic.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
43

Unhappy Monkey says:

If anyone is interested in experiencing racism first hand, I suggest they take stroll in the projects at issue. I look forward to your report.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
44

Bama93 says:

OK. Now for the most important question: who took the cheesecake?

January 18th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:

Unhappy Monkey,

I’m with Dave Chappelle on visiting projects. It’s to be avoided. Although if I came across a baby selling weed, I’d pick some up.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
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Rival says:

GO GET A FUCKING JOB AND QUIT EXPECTING ME AND EVERYONE ELSE TO PAY YOUR WAY THROUGH LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that seriously your response?

Quick homework lesson for you: go pick up an Economics textbook and learn about “negative externalities”. Then get a History book and read about pre-revolutionary France. Then put two & two together and be glad we have social programs in place that might prevent an armed uprising by people who live in the slums & shadows. They ain’t all criminals, you know.

Then grab a Bible…

January 18th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
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gerry dorsey says:

some people are saying the one dude had some valid points, and as a person born and raised in nola i would have to agree. however, when you say some of the things he and his sidekicks said, all credibility is lost.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
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Chips O'Toole says:

Does this qualify as “a very special episode” of edsbs?

January 18th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
49

reb pup says:

Orson,

Better bring on the Bunda, quick.

I think that is a necessary diversion at this point.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:

Did someone make a blossom reference? I give you Jenna Von Oy:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.girlskickbutt.com/images/girls/jenna_von_oy/jenna_von_oy_009.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.girlskickbutt.com/pics/jenna_von_oy/9/&h=1024&w=782&sz=145&tbnid=21CEcUcZ3FDFaM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=115&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djenna%2Bvon%2Boy%26um%3D1&start=1&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=1

January 18th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
51

Rival says:

Also, this place needs more cock jokes.

…Sorry, I just watched “Superbad”. Again.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
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gerry dorsey says:

post about to be made by orson….

yada yada yada…edsbs server’s blew up…blah blah blah

January 18th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
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Last Dragon says:

As someone who lives in the N.O. area, I say damn straight to the theme of what these guys are saying. They could have been a little more selective with their words. But the message is accurate. Its been over two years since the storm. And there is all kinds of work here if you really want it. Get a job and pay your own way through life.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
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Brian says:

Yes please: Bunda is the opiate of the masses, and we wouldn’t want the proletariat from rising up would we?

I would like to “tax some bunda like a Democrat.”

January 18th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
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Will (the other one) says:

More and more, Idiocracy looks like an accurate vision of the US in the nearer than I’d like to admit future, and less like a funny comedy.

Ah well, at least “Ow, My Balls” is funny.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
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Allahver Fist says:

This comment has been edited because Allahver Fist did not stop to think that if he wrote the n word, or even a variation of the n-word, that the filters his advertisers set up to spot extremely offensive words would find it, tab it, and then lead to Orson having to do a bunch of things which are a tremendous pain in the ass in order to restore his ad revenue. Thus his sprinkler joke has been excised.

Allahver, I fucking HATE calling account relations. Don’t do it again! Love, O.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
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robert says:

@Herbie’s Raging Hardon:

Yes, I know. Cincinnati, OH is a stunning achievement in race relations.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
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Tack says:

The interviewer presented the question wrong. If she had of said do you agree with the govt’s decision to chop block public housing they would have been much more sympathetic

January 18th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
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adam (the gay one) says:

gosh. i would suggest that those who say “just go get a job and work your way out” have never had to actually do that.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
60

Ltrain says:

Frogs are falling from the sky at EDSBS. Snow later tonight.

January 18th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
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PW says:

You know, the guys in the video and a lot of the posters are right; there are a lot of problems with the affordable housing situation in New Orleans and these people need to get jobs.

However, instead of calling people ‘again, please, for fuck’s sake, don’t type this word! It trips the filters and means I have to call advertisers, and that sucks the ancient, powerful suck of the ancients! and chiding them for not having jobs, you could offer them some assistance.

http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070103/LOCAL/701020363/-1/news

January 18th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
62

Jahosafat says:

Oh man I sooooo am not proud to be a graduate of LSU right now. I’m covering up that degree thats hanging on the wall over there. Geez.

But at least we won right? Right?

January 18th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
63

reb pup says:

Cheescake is up!!!!!!

January 18th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
64

panhandler says:

This post and its thread are much easier to read when translated thru the Lolinator.

January 18th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
65

PW says:

sorry Orson, I wrote the n-word in my post @ 61 too.

January 18th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
66

Out of Conference says:

Work blocking youtube, but from the short and skinny of it, folks should see Will Smith’s, “The Pursuit of Happyness” sometime. I’m not naive to think that the drive of Chris Gardner is shared by all, but even with his drive to succeed, look how much luck still played a huge part in it.
Think of the odds of being more an American.
Of those, what are the odds of being born into a family with love to want you to succeed, the finances to help you do it, and the opportunities to make it happen.
Now, after thinking about all of this, go to a titty bar and donate to those that don’t always get those chances.

January 18th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
67

J.J. says:

The problem with race relations in this country is that if whites are critical of the behavior of blacks then it is automatically called “racism”. Of course, the guy who piped in with the N-word comment was wrong to do that and there is no justifying using that hateful word. (Both the N-word and the C-word really are the two most imflammatory words in the English language , and should never be spoken aloud!) But the other guys were just expressing their frustrations with a subculture that refuses to do anything for itself, and then bitches when others don’t work fast enough to suit them. As a taxpayer, I too, resent wasteful welfare. These guys are fed up, and the bleeding heart lady who approached the testosterone & brew party with a camcorder and a question guaranteed to elicit anger from most honest TAXPAYERS, should be glad that one of those beers didn’t accidentally spill on her head.

January 18th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
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Out of Conference says:

I assume the word “titty” is safe? I mean I wouldn’t want the “Britnet niple slip” folks to get all born-again on you and cancel their ads.

January 18th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
69

Anon says:

Of course! This totally explains the SEC speed –

Most of the team spends their days practicing football, and their nights running from their lynch-mob fan bases.

January 18th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
70

alanon says:

#43 walking through the projects shouldnt be an issue for most people. the tenderloin in sf is a fucked up place that i’ve walked through constantly and never had an issue bc i dont have a look on my face like i’m afraid every black man is going to rob me at gun point. people in the projects are still people. treat them as such and you wont have to be scared.

using “N” word is annoying. you can say IDIOTS! DON’T USE THIS WORD! MOTHERFUCKERS! ASSHOLES! WHATEVER! JUST DON’T USE THIS WORD! is an unacceptable word. using the term AGAIN? REALLY? JESUS…when condemning it is ok. the word is like voldemort. don’t fear it but don’t use it unless you’re condemning it.

it baffles me to this day why whites and blacks still fear each other like there’s an imminent threat of violence at all times.

January 18th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
71

Last Dragon says:

Alanon must not be keeping up with the rules.

January 18th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
72

Common sense? says:

Can’t we all just admit that what we don’t like are freeloaders? I don’t give a shit whether it’s a black guy in the projects, a white guy in the trailer park or an Indian on a reservation. At some point the statute of limitations on excuses for why you don’t have a job runs out.

For crying out loud, there are people who are paralyzed from the waist (or even neck) down who manage to earn money and not suck off the government. Do you have any idea what that takes to overcome something like that?

January 18th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
73

PW says:

we need a code word like “Nigerian”

January 18th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
74

Allahver Fist says:

Crap.

January 18th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
75

DC Trojan says:

I’m not stupid enough to think that everyone on public benefits (such as they are in this country) is on the up-and-up, but anyone who thinks that it’s easy to get by on $7 / hour and raise a family should empty out their bank account and give it a go, before talking shit about someone else who can’t.

January 18th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
76

yoyofutbawl says:

#57

And Cincy has JERRY SPRINGER too. Who is his southern equivalent, other than Petrino or Nick Saban, who doesn’t have time for this thread.

January 18th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
77

SunDawg says:

Ohio. Isn’t that the state that allotted one voting machine for very couple of thousand African-American voters in the last presidential election. No problem with that, right?

January 18th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
78

MightyMightyMitzu says:

I believe alanon already identified “Voldemort” @ 70.

“We don’t want our city full of Voldemorts.” Would’ve elicited angry responses from a whole different kinda robed crowd

January 18th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
79

Tater Salad says:

When keepin it real goes wrong.

@ 10:

That is my most favorite post on this site, ever.

Biggus @ 25:

I’ve never really thought about it, but you’re right. The people I know who just love stereotypes treat individuals much better than the way they speak of said individual’s race. Very weird.

And lastly:

How does every good racist joke start?

*Looks over shoulder for anyone of race that is target of joke*

Not that I think racist jokes are good.

January 18th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
80

Tater Salad says:

Naggers.

January 18th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
81

Brian says:

#72 – I know a girl who told some foreign chick, brand new to America, who’d never seen a black person before, that the word was “squiggle” and well it stuck apparently. So I guess you can use that if you wanna.

January 18th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
82

Tater Salad says:

What about Richers?

A burning lower case “t”? Time to leave?

January 18th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
83

Last Dragon says:

How about Democrats? Or maybe you prefer non-swimmers?

January 18th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
84

DC Trojan says:

Last Dragon @ 82 – Michael Steele called, he’s wants to talk to you after he’s finished swimming laps at the gym.

January 18th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
85

hunglikehussain says:

Ah yes, from reading the insights from this illustrious panel………we have identified a problem.

Said panel has also failed to offer any solution other than……get a job.

Which is, without further comment, a very viable course of action to take.

Comment once heard on COPS: “Its 2a.m. and look at all these people out here! Trouble will find them, no doubt. If they had a job they would be in bed.”

Therefore; Employment=Morality. Adam Smith could have not put it in better terms.

January 18th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
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Russ says:

Was there ANY point in posting this crap on EDSBS? I don’t look to EDSBS to comment on the social ills of the country, and I don’t listen to NPR to give me good, juvenile, football-related humor.

Really, what’s the point? Racism is everywhere.

January 18th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
87

sjs1959 says:

Yes, indeed, one could go to Southie or Bridgeport or Long Island or Oakland County, etc and find white folks who could make these morons sound like Obama by comparison.

I actually agree that it is more about class than race, but there is NOTHING more obnoxious that a bunch of drunk white guys from the burbs talking about what’s wrong with poor people.

Unless they have walked in those shoes, they either need to be part of the solution or, even better, shut the fuck up.

And, GODAWGS, I seriously hope that Sherman burned your great-great-granddaddy’s farm.

Peace.

January 18th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
88

Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:

86+ Comments….on a slow Friday….during the off-season? amazin’

OS did the right thing by posting the LSU fan video.

January 18th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
89

DC Trojan says:

HungLikeHussain @ 85 – have you been hanging out with my parents? Because that’s remarkably similar to their reaction when I rode students loans for 2 years of drinking beers and not getting job after dropping out of law school.

January 18th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
90

DC Trojan says:

Law school? WTF. I never went to law school; I was in a PhD program. I must have had more beer than I thought.

January 18th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
91

hunglikehussain says:

@87

Curious that it was held so close to national signing day?

Florida need a recruit from LA? We know they are not racists…just anti-Semites.

January 18th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
92

Will (the other one) says:

#67…the English language is spoken in the UK too, and they don’t give three flying craps about the “C U Next Tuesday” word. They also call their smokes something that gets bleeped on tv here.

#85…the Enron folks were employed, as was Bobby Petrino, former Pres. Clinton, former Pres. Nixon, etc. How moral are they considered again? Plus slangin’ ‘rock is a job, you just don’t get benefits or pay taxes.

January 18th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
93

T-Bird, T-Bird I love you says:

I think you could find people that would say the same things at two other SEC schools (Bama and Ole Miss), but LSU is so close to the situation the tension is at an abnormal high. Of course you are going to get drunk people to make comments like that.

January 18th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
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Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:

#90 – Hussain: How can Florida be full of anti-semites, almost all NYC retirees end down there, in places such as Del Boca Vista? (I know this fact from watching a bunch of Seinfeld episodes.)

January 18th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
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Tater Salad says:

92:

Yes, Bama and Ole Miss are the only other SEC schools in which you could find comments like that. And of course the only reason LSU fans would say something like that is because they are high strung due to the tension of it all? I’m not sure you could be any more disingenuous and/or full of shit if you tried.

Racism is an ugly thing and its everywhere. If you don’t think you could find it at AU I would refer you back to AURACISTINFTWORTH for proof. That, or your fraternities painting their faces black while others dressed in white hoods.

Disclaimer: I only use AU as an example because it’s true AND because judging from previous posts by T-bird I believe that is where his/her allegiance lies.

January 18th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
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DC Trojan says:

# 91 -some might even say that they came up with it, English that is. I got the gas face once from an English friend (much more FOB than me) for referring to “British English.” Apparently he felt a little wounded by that.

January 18th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
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Unhappy Monkey says:

alanon @ 70: I won’t pretend to know anything about the tenderloin in sf and say something like it does not compare to NO projects.

However, you clearly know nothing about NO projects or you are a fool. St. Thomas (maybe gone now), Desire, Fischer and their like don’t accept a sunny disposition and good will toward your fellow man as a passport.

January 18th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
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I HEART BLACK PEOPLE says:

Actually, to any and all who feel the need to bring Columbus, Ohio into the discussion, a few years back, BET named Columbus the best city in America for blacks. Also, Barely Legal named Ohio’s libraries the best in America for public displays of self-abuse.

January 18th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
99

hunglikehussain says:

@91

Your list of nefarious employees all have the words “former”, “were” and “was” concerning their present status. Petrino being the one exception (just a matter of time though).

Therefore, employment could also be be seen as an Old Testament provider of spiritual/material wealth or a punisher to those who fail to abide by their commandments.

January 18th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
100

Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:

Ladies are not as racist dept:

Interesting that there were not any comments from women on this threar (that I know of).

January 18th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
101

Last Dragon says:

#96 – You got that right!!!!!!

January 18th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
102

BronxTiger says:

I don’t think it is racist to say that while living in NO in the 90’s, I was mugged three times by black males. Now, I live in the South Bronx in a neighborhood where mine is one of the very few white faces, and have not one problem at all. At 4 p.m. or 4 a.m.

There is something going on with the mindset of that segment of the population in NO where crime is ok, and that the people they rob, injure, and murder also owe them something (via the government) for just being alive and living in this country.

January 18th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
103

TigerNacho says:

Thread summary:
Humanity sucks. More bunda, please.

January 18th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
104

Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:

#100, how about this one;

Divided America United by Love of Bodacious Bunda

January 18th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
105

Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:

….or a good set of Tattas…

January 18th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
106

hunglikehussain says:

Googled images of the lovely Miss Jaramillo.

Well worth it.

January 18th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
107

UTEx says:

per #98…

I was too shocked too comment. I know there is still overt racism in the south, but gads. That was horrific. I wonder if those guys even went to college.

Not that Texas would fare any better. If you want a good scare, try heading on down to College Station, the Panhandle area, Waco and, everyone’s personal favorite, Vidor. There is a reason that Koresh settled in the Waco area. But I digress…

January 18th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
108

UTEx says:

Oops… to comment.

I really did graduate from a good university. I swear.

January 18th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
109

kleph says:

i love louisiana and i’m proud to say i’m from there but this is a viciously ugly fact of life about the place that makes it the sad reality i’ll probably never go back.

working at a newspaper in the middle of the state�s rural heartland i can assure you, this behavior is more common at every social level than one would feel comfortable admitting. and the incidents themselves were not what i found disturbed me to my core, but rather the fact they were not only permitted but, deemed acceptable by complacency.

so much so that it might be worth counting the number of responses in this thread where the folks admit this behavior isn’t even particular egregious compared to other examples they have witnessed. we�ve become inured to the behavior and that�s the true tragedy here.

lastly, it should be noted that the video shows a privileged white man in attendance of an event where young black men are prized for nothing more than their physical skill isn’t irony, it’s a sad truism about how little progress has been made in this country over the last 150 years.

January 18th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
110

Dr. Cruz says:

Give me a fucking break! The guy doing most of the talking in this video is right on point.

You’ll find plenty of black folks who will tell you the same thing. These lazy bastards need to take a break from the constant breeding, stay in school, and get jobs.

January 18th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
111

Biggus Rickus says:

Kleph,

Please, the problem is not that we’ve become inured. Look at the fucking past. Look up the black face shit that went down in the thirties and forties. Look at the sixties when white folk turned fucking hoses on people. The idea that the country is worse now than it was is laughable. Yes, racism exists, but race relations are good deal better than they used to be. It’s not saying much, but fuck, let’s not overreact to some douchebags at a tailgate.

January 18th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
112

JoeBob says:

Recipe for instant publicity:

Take a video camera and ask a bunch of drunk people questions about a racially charged issue.

January 18th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
113

kleph says:

but is isn’t just douchebags at a tailgate. it’s something that exists as a sort of background assumption no-one ever mentions but believes.

douchebag simply was crass enough to say it but he’s not the real problem. the real problem is the fact his opinion as well as his behavior are both pretty much accepted as “the way things are.” need proof? simply look at the asinine comment that followed mine.

bottom line, it’s wrong. and until that becomes generally understood as well as the prevaling sentiment, the situation is not going to change.

January 18th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
114

Biggus Rickus says:

kleph,

We aren’t going to change the beliefs of people in these comment threads. Things improve ever so gradually. We’ve gone from slavery to a generally benign form of racism. Hopefully someday people will be color blind and truly judge each other on their merits. All we can really do is act that way, and even then we still have our own little bigotries.

January 18th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
115

kleph says:

but simply wringing our hands and bemoaning the state of affars (while excorating the said offender) is a bit close to washing them of the mess.

January 18th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
116

Biggus Rickus says:

Would you prefer to march on New Orleans? Ultimately, raising the lot of black people would solve the problem, but how the fuck do you do that? Government programs, it seems to me, have crippled that community. White racists won’t come around until black people come around to the capitalist/entrepreneurial society we’ve created. If you have the answers you’re a better man then everyone who has existed in this country for the past century.

January 18th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
117

kleph says:

what i do know is that insisting on polarizing the situation – from either side – will do nothing to solve the ongoing and severe problems the state faces. and, guess what, the racial makeup of new orleans has actually gotten more complex since katrina.

calling this kind of diatribe what it is – racist – is a key start to dealing with it. having the courage to tell your buddy at the tailgate to shut the fuck up because he’s being a racist douchebag would help too. and talking plainly about why a video like this is rehensible rather than simply adding to the swell of snark that has become so popular on the internet is gonna help too.

January 18th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
118

JoeBob says:

I saw one racist heckler who accounted for roughly three seconds of video time and another semi-sober fellow who made, what I thought, were many valid points. I don’t see this as a piercing glimpse behind the veil of New Orleans society. And given that I actually lived in the city for years, I can tell you that racism is far, far from a one way street.

January 18th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
119

Biggus Rickus says:

So you’ve convinced every white person to bury their racism and walk on eggshells. The basic problems don’t go away. Perhaps denegration has contributed to the problem, but that doesn’t explain fully why black people have been stuck in a seemingly endless cycle.

January 18th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
120

bryan from los angeles says:

why on earth is this chick interviewing a bunch of drunk guys at a tailgate party about the projects?

and yes, affordable housing should be torn down in any area that a city is trying to develop. whether the inhabitants are white, black or brown, “affordable housing” breads societal ills.

Ask Houston about the people rescued from the New Orleans projects. How well did it work out for them? Skyrocketing crime rate. Doubled murder rate.

Dynamite is right… and if you read race into my comment, you’re an idiot. These comments are not about race or class, it’s about a system that’s been broken for decades in liberal New Orleans and other big cities.

January 18th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
121

DC Trojan says:

@ 106 – 114, skipping Dr Cruz: it’s poverty exacerbated by racism which is exacerbated by visibility. I don’t see people going on about why it is that all these crackers in Appalachia are still getting married at 15 and living in double wides when they hit the big time. They’re white and invisible by virtue of distance.

The sad reality is poverty reinforces itself – and some people who are in it, don’t give a shit, and some of them are working the system to their benefit. But turning your back on the people who want out but don’t know how is pathetic.

January 18th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
122

PaulC says:

I fuckin hate Chris Berman.

January 19th, 2008 at 1:15 am
123

Bay Area Bear says:

Wait wait wait wait, southerners being racist?

GET OUTTA HERE!!!!!

January 19th, 2008 at 3:32 am
124

NoVaDamer says:

This thread is too good to let go (sorry Orson). It deserves to live on. I suggest we coin a phrase.
Tiger-gate. (ty-gur-gat) verb, to rant in an uneducated and offensive manner, especially under the influence of alcohol, about sensitive topics. Examples: “I started to walk down the alley behind the stadium, and I stumbled across some LSU fans tigergating there.” “Hillary, don’t tigergate me”–B. Obama

January 19th, 2008 at 7:57 am
125

King Harvest says:

#92
That is the stupidest shit I have read in a while.

Where does Starkville and Auburn fall into your categorization? They are all geographically close, but only the racists hang out in Tuscaloosa and Oxford? Moron…. maybe I am the moron for responding to such ignorance

January 19th, 2008 at 7:58 am
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Biggus Rickus says:

DC Trojan,

I by no means advocate leaving broke people to their fate. I’m sure someone smarter than me has come up with some better way to aid them without creating a dependancy on that aid, but I have no idea how you could do it. As to the broke crackers in their trailers, you’re right to an extent. They’re rarely encountered by most people. But the disproportionate percentage of blacks living in poverty is another big reason why people talk about it.

January 19th, 2008 at 8:16 am
127

Silver Shoes says:

*…a generally benign form of racism…*

Here’s a newsflash: NO form of racism is benign.

Statements like this make me think the idiocracy is taking over.

January 19th, 2008 at 8:23 am
128

Annapolis Doug says:

I wonder who won the game?

January 19th, 2008 at 8:50 am
129

Annapolis Doug says:

Wait wait wait wait, Bay Area people being gay?

GET OUTTA HERE!!!!!

(homophobic also)

January 19th, 2008 at 8:51 am
130

hunglikehussain says:

One of the points made in the video, concerned “transitional” housing. This is housing which IS NOT an entitlement.

Similar in form and substance is “transitional” employment (i.e. minimum wage jobs) and “transitional” education (i.e. High school). These aspects should never be considered a permanent lifestyle, but rather a beginning to improve ones self.

January 19th, 2008 at 10:21 am
131

Cock D says:

I guess getting a job would be easier if our government (Ds and Rs) didn’t think it such a swell idea to move factory jobs to China, IT jobs to india, and allow illegal immigrants in to mop up the bulk of the low level jobs…

And don’t give me the “Americans won’t do those jobs” – Plenty of them will, just has to be at a price that is commensurate with the American economy; There’s a reason illegals live 10 to a 2 bedroom apartment – that’s not the American standard of living.

January 19th, 2008 at 10:57 am
132

Biggus Rickus says:

Silver Shoes,

In the sense of a tumor, yes, benign. It’s bad, but it isn’t malignant. And it’s a big improvement over church bombings and cross burnings.

January 19th, 2008 at 11:02 am
133

eric y says:

we have done extensive research on the issue of racism and sammie and jay whitlow think the best option is to erect a fence along the old mason-dixon line, similar to the one we are trying to erect along the mexican border. whitlow also recommends a new “green card” type system so that passage between the north and south is regulated. maybe then those stupid yankees would stay home.

January 19th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
134

hunglikehussain says:

@131

Ross Perot and NAFTA ring a bell?

Really, it is our fault, our representatives are not there because of a coup d’ e’tat.

January 19th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
135

oc phil says:

The thing is both the democratic and republican parties love illegal immigration.

The republican party loves it because of the economic boost it gives to the big money corporate interests (even though the rank and file hate it).

The democrats love it because they see people coming into the county that will be their natural supporters even though it hurts the economic position of most of their actual voters (for example, construction jobs in California used to be good jobs that paid well, now they are done by illegal immigrants for low pay).

#132. eric y forgot that you tried that 150 years ago and LOST.

January 19th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
136

Drunken Omelette says:

I look forward to their lecture series on reduced crack cocain sentences.

January 19th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
137

MakersMarkReb says:

Oh please, Haybeav. You could take a video camera to any campus in America and find people who would say something like this – not just in the SEC.

And, other than dropping the N-bomb, a lot of what the guy said was pretty accurate. Something is definitely wrong with several generations of the same families grow up what is supposed to be TRANSITIONAL public housing. It’s what we like to call a cycle of poverty.

And, I wasn’t in NOLA, so I can’t say for sure. But, I’d be willing to bet this lady took the camera around interviewing LSU fans all day to find some drunk idiots who would say something like this. She got exactly what she wanted. I wonder how many decent interviews with decent LSU fans never made it to the upload button on her Youtube account.

January 19th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
138

CJH says:

These dudes are just upset that their racist, cousin-fucking, treasonous great-great-great-great-grandpappies ran out of honor and courage halfway through Pickett’s Charge.

General Sherman’s only mistake was that he ran out of matches.

The SEC could win the next 20 national championships for all I care, we still have scoreboard from Gettysburg.

January 19th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
139

AtlDomer says:

Has anyone else mentioned that none of these drunk idiots had southern accents? As a son of the South who went north to school and married someone from the west coast – I feel compelled to tell all of you – THE MOST RACIST PEOPLE IN AMERICA LIVE IN THE NORTHEAST OR IN THE WEST (ESPECIALLY CALIFORNIA). So many of these people have moved to Atlanta and for some reason they feel like all the white people who grew up here “must hate blacks and jews and hispanics” like they do – so they just spew it all the time around me. In fact, my wife’s parents and their friends from California are the most racist people I have ever encountered.

Unless I’ve had too many beers already today – I could swear most of those guys had a New England or Midwest accent.

January 19th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
140

hunglikehussain says:

@136

Sounded kind of “Cajun” to me.

January 19th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
141

DC Trojan says:

Biggus Rickus @ 126 – there’s been an idea kicking around since the 60s that instead of subsidizing unemployment with welfare, we should subsidize employment by topping up wages for jobs that don’t pay much.

To cross into another area of the thread, instead of having the economics of the restaurant business dictate $5 / hour under the table to an illegal immigrant, let the restaurant pay $5 to a citizen, and have the feds add an extra $3 / hour on top. Not exactly a great wage, but cheaper than welfare.

HungLikeHussain @ 130 – Minimum wage jobs are transitional? The data says otherwise my friend – there are always going to be jobs that don’t pay much and more of those than ones that pay a lot. There’s nothing transitional about it.

Cock D @ 131 – You’re blaming the wrong people about exporting jobs – it’s market pressure and trying to stop it is a waste of time. No point in raging against market capitalism when it doesn’t go your way, right? Because that would be lazy and failing to manage transitions.

Going back to our friends the illegal immigrants for a minute – they get jobs partly because they work off the books, and partly because they will actually pick up and move somewhere to get the jobs that exist. And they adapt their lifestyle to the wages rather than complain that it isn’t the other way around.

At the risk of playing into the hands of the yahoos in the video, I do believe that there comes a point where – if there are no jobs where you live – you either move or start something yourself. But people of all hues and economic strata don’t want to do that, whether they assembled cars in Ohio or cleaned toilets in New Orleans before they lost their jobs. And this is a free society, we can’t make people move.

So on that basis, like I said above, I’d rather see the government subsidize work or provide micro-credit to allow people to pull themselves up, but when the incentives are to sit in place and do nothing, I’m not going to allocate the blame solely to the butt-sitters.

January 19th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
142

hunglikehussain says:

DC, the idea that we should stop subsidizing unemployment and instead subsidize employment has merit IF welfare is stopped. However, “a government that bases its existence on robbing Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul”.
Also, “from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs”. [just throwing out random quotes for discussion].

As for minimum wage jobs being “transitional”, I still think they provide a means of motivation and discipline, but should not be viewed as any semblance to maintaining a lifestyle.

January 19th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
143

The Gospel According to Tebow says:

what would bill cosby say?

January 19th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
144

Annapolis Doug says:

I love everyone making blanket statements about people from the South….in their criticizing those LSU losers for making blanket statements about black people.

What’s the difference?

January 19th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
145

Bay Area Bear says:

I love people from Annapolis trying to sound like they have half a brain, in their criticizing of a certain region that is about 1% gay out of the total population.

January 19th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
146

Bay Area Bear says:

#136:

California is 35% hispanic, 12% asian, 5% black, and 48% white…nobody can afford to be racist with that kind of heterogeneity.

January 19th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
147

Kecalf Bailey says:

But they make it sooooo easy……

January 19th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
148

Annapolis Doug says:

BayArea- see post 123…I was just stereotyping like you did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJO5BKPDkaw

What’s the difference?

January 19th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
149

hunglikehussain says:

@145

ZING!

January 19th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
150

Bay Area Bear says:

#145

The difference is, pretty much everyone on this forum is saying “yeah, go to any SEC tailgate and that’s what you’ll hear.”

I’ve been to 5 Pac-10 stadiums and never _ EVER heard anything remotely like that.

But you decided to play all Jefferson Davis and get your panties in a knot over some Nawthanah insultin yo tradishins.

And what, is posting a parade of some gays supposed to be an insult? I’m not gay and I’m not made uncomfortable by gays, but it sounds like you sure are. Grow up.

January 19th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
151

Annapolis Doug says:

Michael Richards of Culver City, California says..racists are forced to live down South.

http://www.tmz.com/2006/11/20/kramers-racist-tirade-caught-on-tape/

January 19th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
152

TigerNacho says:

Come on, Bill! Race War!

January 19th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
153

hunglikehussain says:

@148

ZING! part II!

Bay area bear (Berkley) still doesn’t get it.

Cocktail hour?

January 19th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
154

Bay Area Bear says:

@150 OMG ZING TWO HAW HAW HAW YEW GOT ME.

I guess that we’re going by the “You’re A Complete Retard” argument:

I count one Michael Richards, and about 7-8 tailgaters. Thus, it is a proven fact that there are 7 to 8 times more racists in the south than in LA.

QED

OH YEW GOT IM GOOD THAT TIME DALE HAW HAW ZING.

January 19th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
155

Kecalf Bailey says:

“Crash” would have been a better movie based in Birmingham.

Or even better, “Don’t let the sun set on your black ass” Cullman.

January 19th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
156

hunglikehussain says:

Bear, you emphatically inferred that racism is only a Southern thing. Didn’t set to well with myself and others.

January 19th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
157

Annapolis Doug says:

Bay Area…pay attention.

You are lumping all southerners as racists…I was trying to make a point by lumping all Bay Area people as gay…

It’s ridiculous to generalize people.

6 LSU fans said something totally ignorant and you jumped all over the entire South as racist. (post 123)

I don’t assume you are homosexual just because you live in the most gay city in the world.

Now do you get it?

January 19th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
158

Annapolis Doug says:

Then again.

I probably wrong.

‘Bay Area’ is gay. You don’t live in San Fransisco for the cheap housing.

January 19th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
159

hunglikehussain says:

Alas, what hath Orson wrought?

TCOAN…The kids are fighting again, some are drinking, very few are thinking. HELP!

January 19th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
160

meatybob says:

Bay Area Bear,

The Bay Area is the most polarized city in the country. You are simply wildly ignorant if you believe elsewise. Proof…..College Republicans is the largest student group at Cal.

January 19th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
161

JT California says:

Before I make a point:

The Bay Area is not a city. Get it right. Also, I graduated from Cal, and the main reason the College Republicans is the biggest group is because conservatives flock together at Cal due to the “liberal” atmosphere.

To move on, telling someone to get a job is a complete over simplification. I may have missed this point being made, seeing as there have been so many posts, but has no one even considered the past of this country in contributing to the situation? Racism was institutionalized in the South until the 1960’s. Furthermore, while the laws may have changed, the attitudes haven’t. Black people have been oppressed and have not been made welcome in most white, Southern communities. Why would they be inclined to leave somewhere, as rundown as it may be, believing that the system will not help them succeed.

Bottom line: We are all human beings, and we were given compassion as an emotion for a reason. Instead of hiding behind whatever emotions we may feel, good or bad, we should make an attempt to understand them. Maybe by understanding them, we can change our attitudes and become BETTER PEOPLE. Everyone needs to stop excusing these attitudes and justifying them. There are reasons for everything, but that doesn’t make them okay.

January 19th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
162

TigerNacho says:

The South is a bastion for racism. Yankees are hypocrites. Poor people are lazy and content to lead a life of hand-to-mouth subsistence. People in San Fransisco are gay. And not the gay-as-in-happy gay, but the gay-as-in-I-enjoy-doing-someone-with-the-same-naughty-parts-as -I-have gay.
YES. All true.
When does football season start again?

January 19th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
163

BroomBuff says:

The real problem here is that a perfectly fine tailgate,all beer and no food, was interrupted.

January 20th, 2008 at 12:09 am
164

TigerChick says:

@139

I’m from New Orleans, and those guys are definitely from the suburban parishes. I’d say St. Bernard or the West Bank (of Jefferson). I’d also say some of them look like some of New Orleans’ finest.

Sigh. There are racist asshats everywhere, but I bet this woman looked for the biggest drunken idiots she could find, and then asked them that question after they’d been drinking since the prior Thursday. That said, I hope this video goes all over the internet, and that the people who serve them drinks, cook their food, and bus their tables can recognize them and act accordingly.

January 20th, 2008 at 2:21 am
165

Harvey Wireman says:

Uncle Verne Lundqvist, an EDSBS favorite, yesterday during the USC-ucla basketball telecast called USC’s OJ Mayo, “OJ Simpson”. Then he corrected himself and it was amaizingly funny. (USC, like in football, beat ucla again this year.)

At least Uncle Verne did not say: “I got confused because they all look alike”, like the LSU fans on this video thread might say.

Verne needs to get to SEC football games again, where he is really good, while in b ball he is ok.

January 20th, 2008 at 8:49 am
166

Coop says:

I am, by no means, a SEC fan, but it is rather obvious to me that Verne certainly enjoys calling SEC football games much more than any college basketball game.

He won’t ever get Duke-Carolina as that is Nantz/Packer territory, assuming that Nantz is not calling a tournament at the beginning of the Florida swing like Doral, but I digress.

And, to think, Verne is the one that CBS uses in their promo from the ‘86 Masters, as he was the one who called Nicklaus’ birdie on 17.

Today I guess you could say he fits in a bit more in Athens or Gainesville or Knoxville than at the ANGC, but he could return back to golf prominence if he so desired.

And, for anyone that wants to tell me that Verne has had a booth at a hole at Augusta in April in recent years, I will respond that I have not missed a weekend round on the grounds in over 15 years. So, I would not know one way or the other…

January 20th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
167

hunglikehussain says:

BTW, clean-up on aisle 154 please.

QED? no….no proof made.

Ergo, ipso facto, presto chango!

January 20th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
168

hunglikehussain says:

QED?

Eucliding me? Right.

January 20th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
169

Kevin says:

Those projects in question, just like much of the 9th ward, were run down and in shambles way before the storms hit. There was no public outcry to change them then but now, 2 years after the storm, somebody wants to do something about them. The timing is perfect too seeing that the 2 year limit is up on the FEMA trailers. People should look toward Cameron parish, which was completely destroyed by Rita and see what they’re doing…they didn’t wait for the government, they go in there themselves and started rebuilding immediately. If the people protesting really want to go back home, they would have done so already. Though these guys said it in blunt term, they were right so y’all can look as this a racist and be blinded to the real issues at hand, or you can wake up, see what the real issue is, and do something about it,

January 20th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
170

marcillac says:

WTF?!?!?

I take a few days of checking in on EDSBS to follow the political frivalties and then run into this lighthearted banter. Sheesh!!!

Some quick observations and facts:

1) I hope everyone is paying attention as Hill and Bill are ginning up the white vote against Barak. FWIW, I don’t think they’re reacists but nothing can be permitted to get in the way of Hill’s coronation.

2) It may not be easy growing up in the projects but I know people who started there who went on to Harvard Med, Harvard Law and the like and are doing plenty well for themselves, somewhat better than our cajun friends in the video I dare say.

3)

a) Anthony Ervin, a black man and fellow Cal alumn won the gold medal in the 50 free in swimming in Sydney in 2000 and held numerous NCAA titles and records.

b) Cullen Jones, who is black is one of the fastest swimmers in the world and one of the USA’s best hopes for sprint Gold in Beijing.

January 20th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
171

Coop says:

Marcilliac,

1) Nobody gives two shits, and like the majority on this board, I will be voting for whomever the GOP awards the nomination to. Regardless, I very much prefer Hillary to Obama because the Clintons will take care of the economy, not taxes but the economy, in the manner that I prefer AND, universal health care will pass over my dead body, among many other more influential persons.

2) Give me names. Of course there are people who went to Wharton for undergrad and grad, Johns Hopkins for med school, and received the opportunity to study at Oxford, post-grad, who came from poverty.

My regards to them. Do you know any of these people? Did you hang out with them in college, or did you merely allow them to bus your trays and wash your cafeteria dishes at Cal?

Limousine liberals are the biggest hypocrites known to man.

3) Nobody cares. I have never bought the “black people can’t swim,” that is until I went to football camps in high school and then realized that, black people “choose not to swim.”

I am not going to play the, “white Southerners treat black people, overall, much better than Yankees do” card like others enjoy doing, but last time I checked we all live amongst each other, and I have never feared or avoided dealing with a black man or woman in my life.

Granted, I have not been hanging out on Auburn Avenue in Atlanta around 3AM, either, but the last paragraph is probably more than I can say for all you douchebags spouting, “equality for all,” all the time.

January 20th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
172

Anal Roberts says:

I knew a guy whose name was Stanley
took a dump on Martin Manley
left a steamer on the chest
brushed his teeth with minty Crest

January 20th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
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JT California says:

Everyone can argue about what these people meant to say, what they see, etc. but there is no acceptable excuse for racist comments. Stop justifying it, regardless. It’s unnerving.

Furthermore, why do these people even care that much about what the black people in New Orleans are doing now? These people never made an attempt to help them during the devastation, but now have many comments on how those same people choose to deal with that situation, right or wrong. When you’re happy and content with your own life, you don’t have negative things to say about others. Overtly racist comments are often a sign of insecurity and illustrate a person’s need to feel superior based on arbitrary fact because they don’t seeing anything real within themselves that gives them value.

Maybe a little bit of a stretch and over-analysis, but to many degrees, it’s true.

January 20th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
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MakersMarkReb says:

139 – You’re right. Those weren’t typical southern accents. But, they were definitely southerners. A bunch of loud-mouth yats from New Orleans, born and bred, no doubt.

January 21st, 2008 at 4:30 am
175

marcillac says:

Coop,

Since were talking politics, just to be perfectly clear, I’ll vote for the Republican provided its not Huck whose inclinations to socialism, appeasement and impressive sleaziness one would be hard pressed to surpass. It’s all about supply side, a realistic foreign policy (read significantly more assertive than W’s in the last year except for in Iraq and, abviously much more effective), and constitutionalist originalist judges. The Hillary/Obama conflict is entertaining though and its worth noting that had any Republican intimated one quarter of what the Clinton campaign has he or she would have enthusiastically crucified by EVERY civil rights group and across 80% of editoiral pages across this country.

Yes, I do know some “of these people”, one of whom I work with quite closely. The other one is universally and justly regarded as one of the most impressive young infectious disease specialist sin New York. Grew up in the Harlem projects, single mom, didn’t know her dad, the works. 1450 on her SATs (early 90s – have no idea what the scores mean these days). No need for affirmative action here, got there entirely on the merits.

Might add that many beneficiaries of affirmative action are black kids who grow up in perfectly comfortable upper middle class circumstances (parents are professionals driving BWMs and such) and in some instances slack of because they know they don’t need to push themselves to get access to the best opportunities.

January 21st, 2008 at 10:47 am
176

rifle762 says:

Nice going Orson! Here we are in the middle of crunch time for football recruiting and you trotted this out. Timing is everything I guess. These assholes don’t represent the university but that doesn’t matter right now. You can be sure the link to that video will find its way to lots of recruits. Well, no matter. Florida usually has a higher rated class of recruits than LSU anyway. Next time you attend a game in Baton Rouge stop by the Law School parking lot. Just holler Rifle. I’ll find you.

January 21st, 2008 at 12:29 pm
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DC Trojan says:

Rifle762 @ 175, I somehow doubt that it’s news to recruits that there might be a few bigots in any fan base. I suspect the MNC will matter more to LSU prospects. That and the taffy.

Coop @ 171: Sir, you are not everyone. I know you have a hard time with that, but it’s true. I am impressed though that you were able to read Marcillac’s post and discern that he didn’t go to Cal on financial aid and is in fact a limousine liberal. Nice job introducing your favorite political insult.

While I’m patting you on the back, this was priceless as well: I am not going to play the, �white Southerners [...] card, and then you do it anyway. My only constructive criticism: if you had worked in the “Delta leaves by sundown” crack again, it would have been a perfect post.

January 21st, 2008 at 1:09 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:

Um, did that rifle guy invite Orson to a fight? I love the internet tough guy.

January 21st, 2008 at 2:17 pm
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Last Dragon says:

I’m not sure if he wanted to fight him or sue him. He did say he’d be near the Law School didn’t he? Nonetheless – you are so right Biggus. The cyber bad-ass is always amusing.

January 21st, 2008 at 2:47 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:

Regardless, I think Orson should take him up on the offer. I like the image of him wandering around a parking lot shouting, “Rifle!” two years from now. Imagine the number of helpful cajuns who will supply him with one.

January 21st, 2008 at 2:59 pm
181

Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:

Orson Vs. Rifle Dept:

I suggest a cage fight, ultimate fighting rules. Proceeds from ticket sales would go to a New Orleeens homeless group.

TCOAN and the Couch Burnin’ Girl can be the ring girls.

January 21st, 2008 at 3:39 pm
182

sonofsamford says:

Who teaches fisticuffs at LSU law school?

January 21st, 2008 at 5:33 pm
183

DaveP says:

Yeah, these morons seem like they are really pumping the city full of taxes. Oh well, they are everywhere, but in my experience growing up there, the south certainly tolerates them more.

January 21st, 2008 at 5:56 pm
184

Tater Salad says:

We can’t believe people could ever think there are racists in California. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Sincerely,

L.A.P.D.

January 21st, 2008 at 9:36 pm
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rifle762 says:

Settle down guys!! Who said anything about a fight? It’d be great to have a beer with a professional smart ass like Orson. How else can he find us? “Uh, we’ll be the guys in purple and gold eating and drinking too much.” Plenty of cold beer for Orson or anyone else who shows up, unless its those guys in the video! And no, I’m not a lawyer, but I do drink their beer.

January 21st, 2008 at 10:21 pm
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hunglikehussain says:

Anyone else think that rifle 762 has that “Herschel Walker syndrome?

January 21st, 2008 at 10:33 pm