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YOU SPOILED, SPOILED CRETINS

The cottage industry of the internet is complaint, particularly about announcers and the shitty job they do. Consider, though, what spoiled little whining Fauntleroys we all are compared to the brave couch warriors of years past: one game a week, shot on no more that six or seven cameras, and narrated by Howard Cosell and the late, great coach Bud Wilkinson.

(Nostalgia's a confounder here: you might love Cosell now, but we guarantee the internet would have turned flamethrowers shooting napalm laced with cyanide against Cosell. He broadcast the biggest games for the biggest sports presence and took controversial stances, two factors guaranteeing excoriation by blog-types. His loyalty to Ali would especially appall bloggers, who on the pure sports side would have accused him of ball-washing, and the "heh!" conservative blogger crowd, who would ask him why, oh why he did he hate America? )

Just watch the Notre Dame/Alabama game for proof that football coverage has evolved from knuckle dragging analog mono to glorious HD digital quality just this far from virtual reality. The thing that has changed the least is the role of the announcer. They still do what they've always done, which is alternately enhancing the game with observation and blathering over it with inane patter.

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Just look at that ESS EEE CEE speed!

by Brian "Hung Like Reggie F'n Nelson" on Jan 17, 2008 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

" . . . football coverage has evolved from knuckle dragging analog mono to glorious HD digital quality just this far from virtual reality."

Pure gold, Jerry.

by nobody on Jan 17, 2008 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

Shortly after the game, Alabama declared itself national champions for the 63rd consecutive year.

by JTG on Jan 17, 2008 6:00 PM EST reply actions  

holy shit orson, we have the looming possibility of returning da coach o to his natural habitat

http://www.insidesocal.com/usc/archives/2008/01/orgeron-obsessi.html

by Captain Awesome on Jan 17, 2008 6:07 PM EST reply actions  

You also forgot the PBP guy, the legendary Chris Schenkel.

By the way, that remains my favorite moment in both Notre Dame AND Alabama football history…

by sjs1959 on Jan 17, 2008 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

That was at least one instance where the game actually lived up to all the hype.

And to your point, Orson, comparing it to today’s broadcasts is like watching “Blair Witch Project.”

by beast in 'bama on Jan 17, 2008 6:34 PM EST reply actions  

Orson,

I initially thought there was some kind of cryptic message here, but alas the “Bear” died on January the 26th.

Favorite quote from coach Bryant: "my life would have been a helluva lot different if I wrassled an ass (donkey) instead of a bear "

by hunglikehussain on Jan 17, 2008 6:47 PM EST reply actions  

A video where Notre Dame wins a bowl AND Bear Bryant is proven mortal? Fake!

by Dinknflicka on Jan 17, 2008 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

Had to stop as soon as I heard Cosell extolling through his nostrils.

Most here are too young to remember what a horror he was to endure. The worst part – he was EVERYWHERE.

You kids and your fancy cables with 57 games/week and your interweb tubes!

by NRBQ on Jan 17, 2008 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

Threadjack:

Has it been reported here that Herschel Walker is writing a book in which he reveals that he is a victim of Multiple Personality Disorder (as per AJC.com)?

Dooley said whatever person that was when Herschel had the football was the one he liked best.

by NRBQ on Jan 17, 2008 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

A moment of silence for our dearly departed….

by Kecalf Bailey on Jan 17, 2008 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

I’m pretty sure my community access show from the 8th grade had better production value.

by Brian on Jan 17, 2008 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

Bud was great, but Frank Broyles with Keith Jackson was even better. Listening to Frank call a cornerback a “defensive half back” or the safety “a safetyman” was classic.

by Lawrence Ross on Jan 17, 2008 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

Old School ballgames. Thank you for that.

by RyderCup on Jan 17, 2008 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

Gotta agree with #5 that Schenkel was the ultimate generic CFB announcer. And his ads for bottled beer were fabulous as well.

But I had mercifully forgotten that Cosell was allowed to do college broadcasts. I do recall the disastrous year when ABC deployed him to do baseball games, particularly one evening when he kept comparing the Baltimore Orioles to “the No-Name Defense of the Miami Dolphins.” God knows how many viewers joined me in screaming at the screen, in unison, “Awww, STFU, Howard!”

by DonkeyDawg on Jan 17, 2008 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO we won a bowl game yahhhhhhhhhhh. wait…in the past…Back to silence

by NDEddiemac on Jan 18, 2008 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

You forgot all the advertising thrown at you, the reminders to watch crappy shows that are struggling in the ratings, how everything has a sponsor, or is the “official product” of such and such team.

But they still talk that way about ND, and instead of Alabama they suckass to USC.

by Roamiggator on Jan 18, 2008 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

Sure Howard Cosell was great but he is no Brent Musberger.
This video has historic value if for no other reason how annoying the Notre Dame fight song is, second only to Michigan i think.

by PTTO on Jan 18, 2008 1:21 AM EST reply actions  

Loved Schenkel’s mention of the MacArthur Bowl – the forgotten National Championship Trophy (and the one with the most bling prior to the Crystal Football). And they still give it out – or rather, lend it out – LSU has it for the next year.

by Studley on Jan 18, 2008 8:21 AM EST reply actions  

PTTO,

Those are the two best fight songs around. You want annoying, go watch Tennessee beat the shit out of your team in their own stadium. Rocky Top will be the soundtrack of your nightmares.

Story time: I was in seats right next to the Tennessee band for the 18-13 game in Athens in 2002. It was a lot of fun watching the band get geared up to play Rocky Top on every third down for three quarters only to have Georgia stop them. You could see them sort of deflate. The fourth quarter, when Tennessee almost came back, was less fun.

by Biggus Rickus on Jan 18, 2008 8:25 AM EST reply actions  

I met the TE (Webber) who caught the ball about six years after that game. The one funny thing he noted was that that was his ONLY catch in his entire career.

by yoyofutbawl on Jan 18, 2008 8:29 AM EST reply actions  

Howard was entertaining on MNF especially when paired with Dandy Don Meredith. He was basically a rock star and milked it for all it was worth. By the end of the 3rd quarter he’d be really gooned up on scotch. Then it was just sit back and wait for the first thing that pissed him off. He’d get on his drunken soapbox and rail on it for the remainder of the game.

by drogue on Jan 18, 2008 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

Too much HD viewing has left me blind to the proportions and color of analog TV.

So can someone fill me in on exactly who is boxing in this clip?

http://thebigeleventh.blogspot.com/

by Big 11th Blog on Jan 18, 2008 9:11 AM EST reply actions  

Gotta agree that Keith & Frank Broyles were what I looked forward to for college football announcing. Keith lost a little luster when he started homering for USC. Keith also was on the original MNF crew, but was drowned out by Howard. He was fired from there, and became the voice of college football. If you can ever see the movie “Monday Night Mayhem”, it told a lot about the interplay in the booth on MNF.

Howard’s book, “I Never Played the Game” was almost as obnoxious in print as he was in voice. How in pete’s sake he was calle dto testify when the USFL sued the NFL for antitrust I will never completely figure out.

by Southern Papa on Jan 18, 2008 9:27 AM EST reply actions  

I hadn’t noticed it before really, but the Oklahoma one is pretty annoying. During the bowl game this year they were playing it after every play it seemed. The only times that they didn’t play it (it seemed) were when WVU got a first down or scored, or when OU lost yardage.

by GEAUX on Jan 18, 2008 10:20 AM EST reply actions  

Sorry – I was talking about the fight song.

by GEAUX on Jan 18, 2008 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

Howard Cosell was awesome. Monday Night Football hasn’t been the same without him.

But, I agree that Keith and Frank made college football, even though Frank is kind of an ass. I especially liked the way Frank would say, at least three or four times a game, talking about one of the players, “Keith, I coached his daddy…” or, “Keith, I played with his granddaddy…”

Always good times.

by Boston Frog on Jan 18, 2008 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

“one game a week, shot on no more that six or seven cameras”

Actually, back in the olden days, we usually got a whopping two games a week – one at noon and the other at 3:30, with at least one of them being the maddening “regional coverage”. With the NCAA controlling TV rights, the rule was that a team could only be on 5 times (excluding bowl appearances) in 2 years in any given region. With no satellite or pay-per-view available, if the game you wanted to see wasn’t shown in your region, you were out of luck. You could only hope to find it on radio or just watch the occasional score updates given during the game shown. Here’s a few of the games not shown in Orlando, FL from 1977-81:

1977 Oklahoma at Ohio State
1978, 1979, 1980 Notre Dame vs. Michigan
1978 Penn State at Ohio State
1979 Penn State at Nebraska
1979 Notre Dame at Tennessee
1979 #1USC at LSU
1979 #1 Alabama at LSU
1979 Texas at Houston
1980 Florida State at Nebraska
1981 Florida State at Ohio State
1981 Florida State at Notre Dame
1981 Florida State at Pitt
1981 USC at Washington
(All of the above games featured teams ranked in the Top 15 at the time, if not both in the Top 10, with the exception of the 1979 LSU games – LSU was tough, though losing to USC 17-12 and ’Bama 3-0)

I’m sure that there were other games missing from the above list, but I’m getting old and the memory’s a-slippin’…..

by GeronimoRumplestiltskin on Jan 18, 2008 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

Alabama still claimed the MNC.

by JD on Jan 18, 2008 1:00 PM EST reply actions  

What a blast of nostalgia. When sideburns ruled the earth.

by WDamnE on Jan 18, 2008 1:30 PM EST reply actions  

Kleph @ 16
Did Bennett take a few years off Beurlein’s career there? I’ve always wondered.

GeronimoRumplestiltskin at 29 points out a time when it was not, in fact, entirely about the money. Hard to imagine those rules today.

Also, I hope to never be unimpressed by the ability to watch clips of something from decades ago at my every whim. Interwebs, you r my lolfriend.

by Kenny on Jan 18, 2008 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

I think the UPI voted Bama the championship before the bowl game – and promptly moved their title vote to post-Jan. 1 starting the following season.

I think more than a few of the Tide titles were won in that manner and followed by a bowl loss (think Joe Namath not getting the inch against Texas in ‘64? ’65?) but then, apparently Alabama has some sort of consensus MNC in 1945 that I’ve never seen them claim.

Of course, I think the Dores have some MNC from 1904 or 1907 or so…

by VandyJ on Jan 20, 2008 1:34 AM EST reply actions  

Here is a link to the list of Alabama’s National Championships that we claim along with some recognized that we do not. You newboys do not recall, but many schools did not attend bowls back in the day. Also, Big Ten schools that were edged from the Rose Bowl did not attend other bowls. Bowls were also viewed as a chance for the players to party as opposed to deciding the ultimate champion. This was especially the case when Notre Dame did not attend bowls and the Big 10 would not allow a team to go to the Rose Bowl in back to back years in the event of a tie. The SEC had a tiebreaker for the Sugar Bowl (when the SEC champion was the home team for the Bowl) in which the team that has been to the Sugar the year before would be edged for the other team in the event of a tie. I provide this historical information only to educate those unaware of the historical relationship between the bowls and national championships – not to justify or support any of the titles we claim in Tuscaloosa. I would also recommend the NCAA site for lists of past football championships.

http://www.rolltide.com/fls/8000/files/football/2007/supplement/71-117.pdf?&DB_OEM_ID=8000#page=4

Roll Tide!

JPG

by JPG on Jan 22, 2008 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

I’ll bet you a month’s wages that the other announcer was NOT Bud Wilkonson.

But it was The Great Chris Shenkel.

by NCHawk on Jan 22, 2008 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

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