FULMER CUPDATE: MISSOURI PLAYER GETS CHEMICALLY FESTIVE
Today’s rundown of points and neglectful accounting for the Fulmer Cup.
Missouri earns points the red-blooded American way: drugs. Recreational chemist and Missouri reserve defensive end John Stull has been kicked off the team following last Thursday’s arrest for possession. Police found a diversified portfolio with Stull upon his 1 a.m. arrest.
The police report indicated police found a bag reportedly containing marijuana, assorted pills and cocaine while exercising a search warrant at Stull’s residence. Boone Country Court records indicated Stull was charged later Thursday with a Class C felony.
Stull has had two other brushes with the law prior to this arrest, so this probably surprises few in the Missouri camp. For a class C drug possession felony, we’ll give Missouri three points for the cocaine/pills combo, a drug combo so advanced for a college kid it is only usually found on gay trustafarian club kids who pass out in expensive cars on their way home from the orgy.
Louisville gets feisty. Showing more fight in a single night that Louisville’s defense did all last year, Louisville Cardinal running back Blayne Donnell broke a guy’s jaw at a party December 15th. Now…if this is just surfacing, do we award points despite the fact that it occurred during the bowl lull last season? It’s a complicated question, but fortunately we won’t have to deal with anything like this for a…
Fuckity fuck fuck fuck. Okay, so Penn State has some points in the making on old but newly refiled charges, too. What the hell are we supposed to to with these, too? If you haven’t seen them before and they’re refiled, do they count for this season, too?
We turn it over to the panel to discuss. The Missouri points are incontrovertible, but Louisville and Penn State await your judgment.
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fresh says:
#45…
I agree. The Fulmer Cup goes to the national champion, but why can’t we have individual awards? The NCAA can have their O’Brien and Groza awards, why can’t we have our “Pacman Jones FnDC award”?
January 15th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
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Dr. Cruz says:
If the charges are filed before the B(C)S title game ends and after the the next season begins, then no go. Otherwise, rack ‘em up.
Also, if a coach fucks up it should count no matter when the shit went down, right #43 Pirate_mate?
January 15th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
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Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:
Worse than Pac-Man Dept:
As bad as Pac-Man is, the worse evah is OJ Simpson.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
54
Allahver Fist says:
They need to construct some kind of Maximum Security Stripping Facility in the mountains for Pacman. “SuperMaxim’s” or something.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
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NRBQ says:
Mr. P.P.-
January 15th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
56
NRBQ says:
Below is a mute point.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
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Rowdy Gaines says:
So in the spirit of the election year, it looks like we have 14 votes for neither team receiving FC poings, 9 for only Louisville receiving FC points and 7 for both teams receiving points. Audit away friends; there were some questionable votes and grass slowed me down for a while, but I think those are pretty solid numbers.
I think the Louisville points count, similar to a consecutive games played streak over two seasons. I’d say no on the PSU points since we’ve already used them and tossed them out. I say no double jeopardy.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:
This comment thread is a perfect example of why democracy doesn’t work.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
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Brian O'Blivion says:
So in the spirit of the election year, it looks like we have 14 votes for neither team receiving FC poings, 9 for only Louisville receiving FC points and 7 for both teams receiving points.
So Louisville received a plurality for FC points.
We have:
Louisville: 16 yes, 14 no.
PSU: 7 yes, 23 no.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
60
Mr Pelican Pants says:
Duck Femocracy!!
January 15th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
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Big E says:
I vote yes for Louisville’s counting. They did not go to a bowl game so anything occurring after Championship Saturday for non-bowl teams should count for 2008. Penn State’s shouldn’t count considering the incident happened in October during the season.
And Missouri: Welcome to the big boy table. When you play like a top five team, your players start behaving badly like other top five teams.
January 15th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
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Vairish84 says:
Did anyone see the Tennessee arrest with the recruits?
January 15th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
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Bay Area Bear says:
award PSU’s points retroactively…if they overtake [team redacted], then re-award the cup to PSU
January 15th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
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Mark D says:
This easy…
The Louisville and Penn St. fractions cannot, unfortunately, be counted toward the Fulmer Cup. Let’s say a new law is passed to stiffen a penalty, say, a mandatory minimum 10 day jail visit for any DUI, regardless of severity. That law will become effective on Jan. 8, 2008. Well, if you’re pulled over on Dec. 31, blow a 0.081, and the law says probation, then probation it is! Sorry, because I hate that reform-camp JoePa is running too.
January 15th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
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Mr Pelican Pants says:
Lets see, the Tennessee one is laughable….
Your gonna put wreckless young men in charge of even younger wreckless young men…for a night on the town…….kinda like letting the fox mind the hen house—-nuthin but trouble—I vote Pac Man Jones an honorary Bengal for the effort……I hear they are gonna start handing out House Arrest legbands with the equipment in Cincy…….So are we voting for a Statute of Limitations, or as TO spokeswoman says “Statue of Limitations”?
January 15th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
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Dr. James H. Cubson says:
Count me as a Fulmer Cup Revisionist. The season starts when you ain’t got no more games to play. It’s the Fulmer Cup Bowl Series, and teams like Louisville worked hard for an opportunity to compete on that special stage.
January 15th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
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dogtown gator says:
#61. I think instead of ‘wreckless’ you meant to say ‘wreckful’.
January 15th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
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NewAZTiger says:
#44, I actually went to Stull just because of that song.
I get instant cred with the Jayhawks when I ask them if they’ve been to Stull.
That and 5 bucks will get you a coffee at Starbucks.
January 15th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
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J.J. says:
So what do you do when a recruit on his official visit gets dropped on drug charges with your “hosts”? No, really. What do you do? I remember a Florida recruit getting charged with the rape of a co-ed while on his official visit to Gainesville. I don’t know what happened with regard to the legal system, but the Gators told him his offer was rescinded and to get lost. Anyone remember that? I think the kid was a D lineman, possibly from Tennessee.
Of course, you can’t equate sexual battery with simple possession of chronic, so my guess is that Fullmer continues pursuing the player. Team cohesion and chemistry is just so damn important, ya know.
January 15th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
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This Is Your Captain Speaking says:
“So what do you do when a recruit on his official visit gets dropped on drug charges with your ‘hosts?’”
Points don’t count toward the school’s totals, but the recruit in question should be nominated for the Willie Williams “Promising Newcomer” Award.
January 15th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
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hunglikehussain says:
@69
You will never guess what I came upon after googling “florida recruit+rape”
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080104/NEWS07/80104055/1001/NEWS
January 15th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
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Rowdy Gaines says:
Damn goat had it coming
January 15th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
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The Dude, Man says:
What about a Tony Joiner Award? And i agree with the PacMan Lifetime Achievement Award. That is a definite must.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
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hunglikehussain says:
Re: post 71
There was no mention in the article if the accused was wearing a clown mask.
Just wanted to make that clear.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
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NewAZTiger says:
Texas Tally.
AU loses 2 DCs to be DC/Assistant HC and Co/DC LB coach at Texas.
Alabama loses 1 HC to be HC at Texas A&M.
Alabama loses 1 OC to be RB coach at Texas.
And, with all the Rich-Rod saga, how did he not end up at Alabama? Man, that would’ve been crazier than Houston Nutt tripping on PCP.
January 16th, 2008 at 12:32 am
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dogtown gator says:
I second the Willie Williams Newcomer award name nomination.
January 16th, 2008 at 2:28 am
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Aerobab says:
Then I got distracted by some titties and forgot about it.
Edsall @25, don’t worry, man. It happens to the best of us.
January 16th, 2008 at 8:20 am
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JCarver27 says:
I say the Penn State points stick………because I hate them oh so much.
January 16th, 2008 at 8:41 am
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AUGrad says:
Recruiting means telling a pack of lies, but didn’t know it also meant brain washing to forget events that happened this decade-
[i] The news of Texas’ interest in Applewhite surprised at least one key Alabama recruit.
“Oh, wow. A little (upsetting),” said defensive tackle Damion Square of Houston. “I would’ve loved to have Applewhite. If he wants to win championships, and I know Applewhite does, then he’ll stay. You don’t win no championships at UT, man. You win championships at UA. But he’s got to do what he’s got to do.” [/i]
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/1200388542273030.xml&coll=2
January 16th, 2008 at 8:51 am
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wvjgrad69 says:
double the points for cover up…
triple the Nits points for dissin’ Grandpa Joe
January 16th, 2008 at 8:52 am
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DanF says:
Far from unbiased – but the Penn State points shouldn’t count – it was October.
But don’t worry – with JoePa harldy leaving his house to work anymore, seriously, PSU stands to have another stellar offseason.
January 16th, 2008 at 8:56 am
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TIGERinATL (no LSU fan) says:
Having not read all the comments, here’s my 2 cents.
Neither Louisville or PSU receive points. The date of the transgression is what matters – not the date charges or filed or an arest is made.
And although the PSU charges were dropped last year, and now it seems should have counted, they cannot be applied to this year. Much like the BCS, we have to accept that the FC is imperfect, accept the mistakes, and move on with a clean slate. Each FC year should stand on its own, and we cannot corrupt the 2008 FC in order to make up for the mistakes of 2007. Two wrongs don’t make a right and all.
January 16th, 2008 at 9:21 am
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MassDad says:
State Penn points to count ,double, (attempted political pressure coverup) but only as a tie-breaker (if necessary) in this year’s contest.
January 16th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
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dan says:
It would seem fair to go with the date of indictment. After all, you are innocent until you are arrested. I mean convicted……. Even if the event ocurred last year, if they were not arrested, they would not have recieved points last year.
As far as penn state, were the points removed when the charges were dropped? A crime can only be counted once. If the points were not removed, they get no points this year. If the points were removed, they should get them back.
January 16th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
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Edsall is God says:
What a fantastic comment section.
Has there been some sort of a ruling made? I’m really going to feel for those poor Louisville players that got too excited and starting committing felonies before scoring began. Just an honest mistake, really.
January 16th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
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Andrew says:
A quote from the animated movie Heavy Metal applies here.
“There just a low-down, -
double-dealing, backstabbing,
larcenous, perverted worm!
Hanging is too good for him!
Burning is too good for him!
He should be torn into little pieces
and buried alive!”
January 16th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
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Mr Pelican Pants says:
Do we have to use Roberts Rules of Order and wear white wigs with powder when we vote on the issue at hand? Tally Ho!! We need a Queen of Hearts ruling ASAP….
January 16th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
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drogue says:
Is there a need for a Fulmer Cup fantasy league?
January 16th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
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Pat says:
To clear things up:
The Penn State charges in discussion are for a fight at the HUB which occurred in October. During the season. They never would’ve counted towards last year’s Fulmer Cup, or this year’s Fulmer Cup, had the prosecution had sufficient evidence at the time.
(The other Penn State fracas which did take points off the board was the Scirotto kerfluffle when he started a drunken party brawl. A lot of those charges got dropped because it was never clear who was there to fight and who was there to stop others from fighting. The whole thing was really blown out of proportion – it was really “four guys get into a brawl”.)
January 16th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
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spartanmike says:
re: #87
It can be like the co-op in The Wire…
“Uhh….point of order an’ shit.”
January 16th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
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Run Up The Score says:
In good faith, these Penn State charges can’t possibly count for Fulmer Cup purposes. The criminal acts should only count from the minute after the BCS Championship game ends until the moment the first game is played. And seriously, whatever, we’ll make up the points later. Hasn’t exactly been a tight ship up here lately.
January 16th, 2008 at 9:13 pm