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		<title>By: oc phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>oc phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33  Joshua.     Yeah, but the point is NOT that had USC gotten all the breaks they could have won 5 championships in a row, it is that in all 5 years they were good enough to be in serious contention where luck comes into play.      

I don&#039;t see that changing with the current crop of young players in place.    But then again I&#039;m sure Miami fans thought they could stay on top as well.    

 If Carroll stays at USC, I think that Florida State under Bowden might provide a better comparison.     It is possilbe to have a long run of very good years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33  Joshua.     Yeah, but the point is NOT that had USC gotten all the breaks they could have won 5 championships in a row, it is that in all 5 years they were good enough to be in serious contention where luck comes into play.      </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see that changing with the current crop of young players in place.    But then again I&#8217;m sure Miami fans thought they could stay on top as well.    </p>
<p> If Carroll stays at USC, I think that Florida State under Bowden might provide a better comparison.     It is possilbe to have a long run of very good years.</p>
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		<title>By: PW</title>
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		<dc:creator>PW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ronnie Cottrell of Alabama probation fame was the Tight Ends Coach/ Recruiting Coordinator at FSU prior to his stint at Alabama. His departure from FSU somewhat coincides with their recent decline.

I attended Bobby Bowden&#039;s camp in high school and spent a pretty good deal of time around him. Seemed like a really nice guy. I&#039;m not familiar with exactly what role he played in the Alabama probation saga, but I&#039;m sure someone on here could enlighten me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronnie Cottrell of Alabama probation fame was the Tight Ends Coach/ Recruiting Coordinator at FSU prior to his stint at Alabama. His departure from FSU somewhat coincides with their recent decline.</p>
<p>I attended Bobby Bowden&#8217;s camp in high school and spent a pretty good deal of time around him. Seemed like a really nice guy. I&#8217;m not familiar with exactly what role he played in the Alabama probation saga, but I&#8217;m sure someone on here could enlighten me.</p>
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		<title>By: Because They Can</title>
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		<dc:creator>Because They Can</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coop- Certainly Garner&#039;s most important role is recruiting, but he is in fact a good DT coach. I don&#039;t know much about his previous jobs, but he has real coaching duties at UGA, and he&#039;s been successful. I can&#039;t disagree about the AHC title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coop- Certainly Garner&#8217;s most important role is recruiting, but he is in fact a good DT coach. I don&#8217;t know much about his previous jobs, but he has real coaching duties at UGA, and he&#8217;s been successful. I can&#8217;t disagree about the AHC title.</p>
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		<title>By: SpartanDan</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpartanDan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding JLS to Hawaii: I think the fight there was more with June Jones than the program itself. Yes, it&#039;s a hellish trip, and the legendarily bad officiating didn&#039;t make matters any better. (It was &#039;04, for the record, and Hawaii needed to win its last two games against NW and MSU to be bowl-eligible; those two teams combined for nearly 40 penalties and at least three long TDs called back.) I think the real spark was the &#039;05 return game, when we were beating the hell out of them and one of their guys took a cheap shot at Stanton (followed by a June Jones postgame quote defending his player).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding JLS to Hawaii: I think the fight there was more with June Jones than the program itself. Yes, it&#8217;s a hellish trip, and the legendarily bad officiating didn&#8217;t make matters any better. (It was &#8216;04, for the record, and Hawaii needed to win its last two games against NW and MSU to be bowl-eligible; those two teams combined for nearly 40 penalties and at least three long TDs called back.) I think the real spark was the &#8216;05 return game, when we were beating the hell out of them and one of their guys took a cheap shot at Stanton (followed by a June Jones postgame quote defending his player).</p>
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		<title>By: Ground0EastLansing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ground0EastLansing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JLS to Hawaii seems strange.  MSU went down to Hawaii in either &#039;02 or &#039;03 and got the Joan Collins Special by the refs in that game.  At least I think that&#039;s what happened, when a game starts around midnight, all the purple drank and quaaludes tend to mess with your mind.

Also, I&#039;m disappointed that I didn&#039;t see the other famous JLS clip from that era, &quot;THE PLAYERS ARE PLAYING THEIR TAILS OFF, AND THE COACHES ARE SCREWING IT UP!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JLS to Hawaii seems strange.  MSU went down to Hawaii in either &#8216;02 or &#8216;03 and got the Joan Collins Special by the refs in that game.  At least I think that&#8217;s what happened, when a game starts around midnight, all the purple drank and quaaludes tend to mess with your mind.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m disappointed that I didn&#8217;t see the other famous JLS clip from that era, &#8220;THE PLAYERS ARE PLAYING THEIR TAILS OFF, AND THE COACHES ARE SCREWING IT UP!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Biggus Rickus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biggus Rickus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how involved he was in coaching any of the position spots he had prior to Georgia, and I know the AHC designation was to keep him in Athens, but if he&#039;s been involved heavily with the defensive line since &#039;98 (and I tend to think he has) he&#039;s done a good job at that position. So not all great recruiters are only that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how involved he was in coaching any of the position spots he had prior to Georgia, and I know the AHC designation was to keep him in Athens, but if he&#8217;s been involved heavily with the defensive line since &#8216;98 (and I tend to think he has) he&#8217;s done a good job at that position. So not all great recruiters are only that.</p>
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		<title>By: Coop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s &quot;AHC&quot; for the resume padder and the raise so Richt can keep him around, while not really have him do anything but recruit, or at least that held water while Garner was a TE coach all these years.

Glad to see Garner has some legitimate responsibility now.

However, a TE coach?  One position that could easily be handled by the OL coach and/or WR coach, and at most schools it is.

In other words, they were giving him something to do for a reason.

But, I was wrong about him being a RB coach, giving him too much credit as other schools made up a position for him, essentially.

Not really speaking in code anymore, are we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s &#8220;AHC&#8221; for the resume padder and the raise so Richt can keep him around, while not really have him do anything but recruit, or at least that held water while Garner was a TE coach all these years.</p>
<p>Glad to see Garner has some legitimate responsibility now.</p>
<p>However, a TE coach?  One position that could easily be handled by the OL coach and/or WR coach, and at most schools it is.</p>
<p>In other words, they were giving him something to do for a reason.</p>
<p>But, I was wrong about him being a RB coach, giving him too much credit as other schools made up a position for him, essentially.</p>
<p>Not really speaking in code anymore, are we?</p>
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		<title>By: lance harbor</title>
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		<dc:creator>lance harbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@coop and @ biggus rickus

I used to think the RB coach was a useless position, but listening to Croom, a former RB coach in the pros wax critically on RB performance changed that view.  

Croom talks of the aforementioned blocking schemes and pass catching, but also footwork and reads...lots and lots of reads.  Reading the LB&#039;s and Guards.  Using the correct  footwork to set self up for cuts.  Then you watch the RB&#039;s in the game under that guise and it changes your viewpoint somewhat.  

Also Drayton coached at MSU before Florida, I think Croom did most of the coaching then too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@coop and @ biggus rickus</p>
<p>I used to think the RB coach was a useless position, but listening to Croom, a former RB coach in the pros wax critically on RB performance changed that view.  </p>
<p>Croom talks of the aforementioned blocking schemes and pass catching, but also footwork and reads&#8230;lots and lots of reads.  Reading the LB&#8217;s and Guards.  Using the correct  footwork to set self up for cuts.  Then you watch the RB&#8217;s in the game under that guise and it changes your viewpoint somewhat.  </p>
<p>Also Drayton coached at MSU before Florida, I think Croom did most of the coaching then too.</p>
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		<title>By: Aerobab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aerobab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Vol, I certainly welcome Coach Drayton to Knoxville and admire his drive to succeed.  However, I do question his desire to leave a $135k/year job to do jack-shit for someplace else where you get paid slightly more and have expectations of productivity when it comes to &quot;work&quot;.

He&#039;s leaving my dream job!

Hey Urb, if you read this site, I&#039;m interested in being your RB coach!  Hit me up! G8RZ 4 LYFE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Vol, I certainly welcome Coach Drayton to Knoxville and admire his drive to succeed.  However, I do question his desire to leave a $135k/year job to do jack-shit for someplace else where you get paid slightly more and have expectations of productivity when it comes to &#8220;work&#8221;.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s leaving my dream job!</p>
<p>Hey Urb, if you read this site, I&#8217;m interested in being your RB coach!  Hit me up! G8RZ 4 LYFE!</p>
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		<title>By: Biggus Rickus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biggus Rickus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garner has never coached running backs. Tight Ends at Auburn, Tackles and Tight Ends at Tennessee and Defensive Line at Georgia (now Assistant Head Coach as well).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garner has never coached running backs. Tight Ends at Auburn, Tackles and Tight Ends at Tennessee and Defensive Line at Georgia (now Assistant Head Coach as well).</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez, OC Phil, Pat Sajak just called and said Wheel of Fortune needs all their I&#039;s and F&#039;s back since you used up the world&#039;s entire supply with that one post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez, OC Phil, Pat Sajak just called and said Wheel of Fortune needs all their I&#8217;s and F&#8217;s back since you used up the world&#8217;s entire supply with that one post.</p>
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		<title>By: Coop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rodney Garner has coached RBs, and he has coached them at Georgia, of that I am certain.

And, no, I am not taking the 30 seconds to look at the coaching staff profiles over at the official Georgia site.

I am surprised, impressed, etc that Garner has some legitimate duties now, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rodney Garner has coached RBs, and he has coached them at Georgia, of that I am certain.</p>
<p>And, no, I am not taking the 30 seconds to look at the coaching staff profiles over at the official Georgia site.</p>
<p>I am surprised, impressed, etc that Garner has some legitimate duties now, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Biggus Rickus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biggus Rickus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coop,

You make a good point, but Garner coaches the defensivle line at Georgia. For futher proof that running back coaches are useless, Ray Goff was promoted from that position to head coach in 1989.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coop,</p>
<p>You make a good point, but Garner coaches the defensivle line at Georgia. For futher proof that running back coaches are useless, Ray Goff was promoted from that position to head coach in 1989.</p>
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		<title>By: drogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>drogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bandwidth Jerkwheat, bandwidth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bandwidth Jerkwheat, bandwidth.</p>
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		<title>By: Coop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is, BB, the RBs coach does the least amount of coaching on the staff.  He really has less responsibilities than the WR coach, when you think about it.

Basically, the RB coach teaches blocking schemes to the RBs, and sharpens up their pass catching skills for programs that warrant it, and that is it, because you aren&#039;t going to be teaching a RB at Florida how to, &quot;hit the hole.&quot; 

Therefore, I never really blame or praise any RB coach for a lack of, or surplus of, running yardage.  I focus on the OL coach and the OC.

These kids would not be there if they  was not  successful runners in high school, as RB is not a position where the player played a different position like QB, LB, etc in high school, or at least the player played both positions with RB being his priority position.

Thus, who do you make your RB coach, if you are smart?

You do what Pat Dye, then Phil Fulmer, then Jim Donnan, then Mark Richt did and put Rodney Garner there.  A guy who is not necessarily a coaching &quot;tactician&quot; but a guy who can recruit.  

Your star recruiter, basically, b/c his other job duties are, shall we say, &quot;non strenuous.&quot;

Granted, Florida has had several big recruiters under Meyer, and it warms my hear to see Holliday go as well, as he will get NC State type Florida talent under Amato at WVa, instead of Florida type Florida talent.

But, basically all Drayton was, and all Meyer is looking for, is a guy who can recruit.

His own Rodney Garner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is, BB, the RBs coach does the least amount of coaching on the staff.  He really has less responsibilities than the WR coach, when you think about it.</p>
<p>Basically, the RB coach teaches blocking schemes to the RBs, and sharpens up their pass catching skills for programs that warrant it, and that is it, because you aren&#8217;t going to be teaching a RB at Florida how to, &#8220;hit the hole.&#8221; </p>
<p>Therefore, I never really blame or praise any RB coach for a lack of, or surplus of, running yardage.  I focus on the OL coach and the OC.</p>
<p>These kids would not be there if they  was not  successful runners in high school, as RB is not a position where the player played a different position like QB, LB, etc in high school, or at least the player played both positions with RB being his priority position.</p>
<p>Thus, who do you make your RB coach, if you are smart?</p>
<p>You do what Pat Dye, then Phil Fulmer, then Jim Donnan, then Mark Richt did and put Rodney Garner there.  A guy who is not necessarily a coaching &#8220;tactician&#8221; but a guy who can recruit.  </p>
<p>Your star recruiter, basically, b/c his other job duties are, shall we say, &#8220;non strenuous.&#8221;</p>
<p>Granted, Florida has had several big recruiters under Meyer, and it warms my hear to see Holliday go as well, as he will get NC State type Florida talent under Amato at WVa, instead of Florida type Florida talent.</p>
<p>But, basically all Drayton was, and all Meyer is looking for, is a guy who can recruit.</p>
<p>His own Rodney Garner.</p>
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