FLORIDA STATE SUSPENDS TWENTY PLAYERS: BOWDEN WANTS APPLESAUCE

That baby’s so easily amused it would laugh at Dane Cook.

What an old soul—that kid’s laughing like Buddy Ebsen on the Carson show

The blog entry lead-in is kind of misleading. They aren’t being suspended “for taking an online course for credit” – why would they be?

They are being suspended for getting test answers from tutors, just like they would have done if they got test answers in a classroom course. The online-ness is part of it yes, and surely made the cheating easier, but really has little to do with why they are being suspended

Free Scores University?

I got nuthin…

Kids can take classes on the intraweb?!?! Wow!

Anyone who does not die giggling while watching that baby has no soul. Thank you Orson for the cutest thing ever.

Also, what’s wrong with online courses? I’ve certainly took them and got credit that counted towards graduating.

Somewhere Sebastian Janikowski is smiling and muttering, drunkenly, to himself that he “went to fsu at just the right time.”

Meanwhile, Auburn has offered two semesters worth of credit hours towards a Sociology Degree to the FSU players, saying "
they more than earned it."

Mark Richt knew exactly when to get the hell out.

Thanks NMS for clearing that up … and everyone cheats in online and independent study courses right? Or was that just me?

It wasn’t the “online part”, it was the “tutors holding their hands while they took the online tests” part.

F$U.

What? You mean tutors cant give answers to athletes on an online exam? What are we payin these tutors for

Yeh baby, Florida State is back……on the right track…..Man, in my Fantasy-Fulmer Cup-Bowl Edition- this puts Fla State way ahead of the Florida Gators right now, and barring any bank robberies or hostage stand offs, FSU will go uncontested….

FSU’s 2008 schedule is far from complete, not in terms of opponents, but of when they will play. FSU has been involved in a Labor Day game against either UM or Clemson every year since the U joined the league. You can bet they won’t be in ’08. … Be interesting to see how much the ACC is willing to work with FSU in scheduling the tougher league games after the suspensions have had time to play out.

UK-50
F$U-17

So someone fill me in here: back in my day (UGA ’03) we had bulletin boards and other stuff on WebCT but still had to go to a physical location, and “online course” conjured up images of cheesy University of Phoenix and DeVry ads in my head.

Have times changed that much?

I think there needs to be preseason seeding for Fulmer Cup, just like every magazine does preseason rankings. Whether the team lives up to the hype when the season/offseason begins, it would at least provide credit for past accomplishment.

Since it’s Bobby’s kids, does that mean they were taken on the “Ebay thingie”?

DC Domer @ 15, I dunno, there’s something to be said for resume ranking – you don’t want to disadvantage a San Jose State for instance.

I wonder if they still get the bags of stuff they give to players for appearing in a bowl — Ipods, dvd players, etc.

1. is on to something here…

FSU and Miami would always get votes based upon past performances. Just like Notre Dame every year in the preseason polls.

Corrected, inept, apologies.

Surely FSU knew this was coming; I’d think they would want to avoid the juxtaposition between the Bowden contract extension announcement and this suspension announcement. What a junk show.

Re: Comment #15:

One of my biggest complaints with the current ranking system are the pre-season rankings based on nothing but undeserved hype and who ESPN decides to slurp leading up to the season opener. I think the Fulmer Cup does things the right way: it lets the schools distinguish themselves OFF the field solely on the merits of their actions without confusing the issue with the under-defined “potential” aspect.

I wish I could have some schadenfreude (great word), but I can’t. Why? Because I have to be both Gator grad and die-hard Seminole fan. And there’s plenty of us amongst you on your campus, where the plagiarized papers flow like wine, and the cheaters instinctivly flock like the salmon of cappastrona. My hate has dwindled. I now hate the hate. Don’t get all high and mighty, Gators. Machen better follow suit soon with some in-house auditing of his own, or else the NCAA might. But does the SEC really have to worry about the NCAA?

Will, I was just 2 years behind you at UGA and yeah there are some courses now that are almost completely online … except for like the final where you have to go somewhere to take that but someone could basically do all the work for you. Like UGA @ Gwinnett does the more completely online courses. And even some of the traditional courses have you do your homework online a lot …

Orson,

I don’t want to piss you off or anything, but I am in Poland and there’s a bottle of Zubrowka sitting in front of me. Obviously there’s only one site that could’ve inspired this drink selection. Slainte.

- Wooderson

Who’d of Thunk It Dept;

I am amazed that there are 20 or so Free Shoes University football players that know how to cheat on the internets.

Maybe Bowden turned his players in as a way to brag about his players’ creative use of the web?

It’s not so much that they cheated, because who wouldn’t when taking an online course? It’s that they were stupid enough to get caught.

Sooo while we’re on the subject of cheating and lying to a school administration, how about RichRod trying to get Michigan out of that $4 million buyout by having his attorneys claim that he was “fradulently induced to sign a contract with false promises” by a “university and athletic department that was arrogant, mean-spirited and intellectually bankrupt.”

Them’s fightin’ words!

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3159677

Not worried about UK
Bowl Records:
Gates 16-18-0 .471
Noles 19-13-2 .583

Come on!

Oh, it’s sooooooooo tasty. Enjoy, Wooderson.

Re #15, et seq.: Thanks for the reminder. I’ll try to pull something together over the course of the bowl season.

http://www.miamihawktalk.com/home/news/story/2007_fulmer_cup_the_pre_season_top_ten/

#23
Yeh the SEC has to worry about the NCAA….for instance, this “textbook” scandal that suspended 4 players for allegedly selling textbooks…Bullshit…Caldwell gave a book-no money was transacted-to another kid, a mistake, but 4 game suspension? and he had already graduated?
Hell guys get tasered, arrested, and they are on the field the following Saturday, mostly off campus stuff I know, but if it involves books, the NCAA will nail you to the cross and set your nuts on fire…

#30
Fla State will be hard to knock off….usually something of this magnitude will snowball and more will be implicated…..once the NCAA starts snooping around, it will be like a IRS audit and they will find errors……oh yes….they will find errors….and they will hope you were trying to cover it up……..

Wooderson,

You certainly need the stuff given that its got to be fucking freezing in Poland just now. This should do wonders and alleviate and discomfort.

1. - This is the snowball – this orginally came up over the summer and at the time was thought to involve only non-football athletes. Then it was two football players (who were held out of games and, I believe, practices) Then, a couple of weeks ago, word started circulating that it was much bigger.

I know I’ve seen something like this where the coach didn’t know that his players were cheating and the NCAA didn’t absolutely destroy the program.

No, no I haven’t. Clem Haskins still isn’t coaching.

#35
Well if this is the snowball, get ready for the avalanche……I am sure the NCAA has a 10 year running total or some BS rule that if you have “x” amount of infractions in a certain period they start yanking schollys and whatever else they can make up…They are just trying to cause Bobby to have a heart attack by elevating his blood pressure, or stroke , or embolism, some way to get him to kick the bucket…Jimbo Fisher may have been the “tipster” to speed up the process….

Online courses? Foenix State University?

#23
Swallows, Capistrano maybe? Keep hating the hate.

This story would be funnier if the other kind of “snowballing” was involved (see Clerks)

It’s my understanding that when this whole thing came up originally, FSU self-reported to the NCAA after conducting its own “investigation”. That investigation turned up a number of athletic scholarship miscreants, only two of whom were football players. Then a young lady soccer player caught as one of the original group became unhappy with what she perceived to be discriminatory treatment and the fact that the “investigation” seemed to whitewash the football program (Cover-up!, Cover-up!). She then hired the dreaded “LAWYA” and went calling upon the FSU administration and the NCAA (Froggy went a courting and she did ride, Uh huh!). The next thing you know is that the NCAA was all up in the ’Noles anal sphincter. Suddenly the “investigation” was “re-opened”, and the words that strike terror into ADs hearts, “lack of institutional control”, began to be bandied about. All the bits from the organic material that hit the fan are just now beginning to settle.

Now, far be it from me to be one to enjoy schadenfreude, but I’m giggling, no…..guffawing, like that baby.

How many times does Machen have to get sued for all of his shady up-to-no-goods before the NCAA kicks him in the balls?

Why don’t you enlighten us, Pete? What’s Machen been sued for, why should the NCAA care, and what the hell does it have to do with a massive cheating scandal at FSU?

Ahh! This never gets old. We should have a seperate fulmer cup award just for Florida State student-athletes….or should I just say athletes?

Pete, I respectfully submit that you are no “Gator grad.” Graduating from the University of Florida and being a Gator are not the same thing. For example, calling yourself a “die-hard Seminole fan” and being a Gator are mutually exclusive in all instances.

We Gators (Gates as you so cleverly call us) love this shit.

Hardy, Har, Har.

Great t-shirts commemorating the event:

http://charlieweisandthechocolatefactory.blogspot.com/2007/12/cwatcf-merchandise-class-is-for-gators.html