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HOLY FUCKING SHIT RICH RODRIGUEZ TO MICHIGAN--
Okay, we'll have Tom Dienhart on and talk about the biggest coaching change of the year. Tune in by clicking here or just hit play on the sidebar. 7:00 p.m. EST with yours truly and Peter Bean.

Unlike Bobby Petrino, I'm handing in my letter personally.
Talk to you tonight.
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“Norm Chow meet with UCLA last night” per the broadcasters on the Titans game.
by LSU Harleyman on Dec 16, 2007 4:10 PM EST reply actions
Does his contract include a stipend for kittens?
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Dec 16, 2007 4:15 PM EST reply actions
Man, Brian’s site is going apeshit over this. About damn time Martin got off his ass.
by bitterhorn on Dec 16, 2007 4:21 PM EST reply actions
Sam McGuffie in the spread O? That’s gonna be entertaining.
by bitterhorn on Dec 16, 2007 4:26 PM EST reply actions
- - thus sending the entire base of Bruins Nation into severe fits of Tourette’s.
Yeah, Michigan seems to have a stable of lumbering drop-back passers that might need some clearing out right now.
by Signal to Noise on Dec 16, 2007 4:29 PM EST reply actions
Maybe Dienhart can look into his crystal ball and tell whats is really happening with the ucla job.
JOHN Harbaugh???…right!
by Paragon SC on Dec 16, 2007 4:42 PM EST reply actions
You could always run WFVU game tapes in slow motion if you want to see Michigan’s new offense….
I keeed….I keeed…….
Seriously, what happened the last time Ohio State ran into a spread offense? Yeah……..
by Sean Glennon's Jersey on Dec 16, 2007 4:50 PM EST reply actions
I suspect Rodriguez will run the spread rather than the spread option given the current personnel — take out most of the QB zone read runs, lots of 4-wide. More like the Patriots spread than the West Virginia/Florida spread. Apparently when Rodriguez first used the spread at Glenville they threw it a ton rather than the ground attack it was at West Virginia.
He’ll switch it around if Pryor comes to Michigan, in that case they may put both styles in and use both QBs. That would be really, really fun to watch. Talk about a bitch to prepare for…
by Yinka Double Dare on Dec 16, 2007 4:51 PM EST reply actions
The irony… Michigan gets both its basketball and football coaches from West Virginia.
by Tom on Dec 16, 2007 4:56 PM EST reply actions
Rodriguez, while having a history of coaching in those formations, never had success throwing out of them… his first team at WVU he ran that offense and threw probably half the time, they got crushed and went 3-8… and until superstars like Pat White and Steve Slaton fell into his lap, that offense didnt produce…. and I’m a WVU guy sayin it…
Michigan fans, get used to having no ‘Plan B’ when the defense shows you they can stop the run… and get ready to watch db’s play 10 yards off the wideouts and see a shutload of 3rd and 8’s completed over the middle for a 9 yard gain
by beckett929 on Dec 16, 2007 4:57 PM EST reply actions
If anyone wants a recap of Rich Rodriguez’s career you can read it here: http://thestache.blogspot.com/2007/12/michigan-west-virginia-of-slightly.html
by Nick on Dec 16, 2007 5:00 PM EST reply actions
The bitterness from the WFVU fans is already surfacing.
If you want to know how a poor man’s version of WFVU’s offense worked in the Big Televen, go watch Illinois this season.
by Beergut on Dec 16, 2007 5:05 PM EST reply actions
Haha anyone thinking the BigTeleven will suddenly learn how to stop the spread… Ohio St lost to freaking Illinois and its spread featuring Juice “40%” Williams. RichRod with Pryor would be nasty.
by Karl on Dec 16, 2007 5:11 PM EST reply actions
The negotiations between Rodriguez and Michigan occurred in Toledo, Ohio. Rodriguez’s agent said Rodriguez was meeting with a financial adviser. I wish my financial adviser would tell me how to make $2.5 million a year for several years.
by John on Dec 16, 2007 5:12 PM EST reply actions
So what does it say that he turned down that amount of money last year to coach at Bama? I’m not trying to slam anybody I just want to know what y’all think…
by Stephen on Dec 16, 2007 5:15 PM EST reply actions
Dammit, now I’ve got that Peanut Butter Jelly Time song stuck in my head!
Cursed Michigan bloggers….
by bitterhorn on Dec 16, 2007 5:15 PM EST reply actions
#16
Tide trustees are batshit crazy. So are their fans.
by GADawg on Dec 16, 2007 5:20 PM EST reply actions
- -
I’m not personally bitter… its just a matter of fact… watch the games hes coached over the last 6 years…. its great when the offense clicks… but when someone has a D-line that bellies up to the bar, he never has an answer for it…
by beckett929 on Dec 16, 2007 5:23 PM EST reply actions
12 and everyone else…
Rodriguez was the OC at Tulane when they went 12-0 with Shaun King… ran a version of the spread with a single tailback and 3-4 wide. King was not a running QB but was just mobile enough … 3200 yds, 36 td passing, 500 yds and 10 tds rushing
by sabanite on Dec 16, 2007 5:33 PM EST reply actions
Honestly – I think we are just happy that this is done. Assuming that Michigan will now run that damn spread option – what our current LB coach referred to as “communist football” – maybe, just maybe, we’ll have a clue how to stop it as well.
I hope we don’t have another one of these coaching changes soon. I analogize it as follows: recruiting is to cocaine like a coaching change is to crack. I need detox – now.
by maskedavenger on Dec 16, 2007 5:36 PM EST reply actions
Rodriguez also had success at Clemson, both running and throwing with that dude whose name I’ve forgotten playing QB.
by Biggus Rickus on Dec 16, 2007 5:38 PM EST reply actions
DickRod can choke on applesauce.
It’s one thing to get yourself a raise and get a nice, lucrative contract that pays your assistants their worth and brings with it promises to build on facilities.
It’s another to sign this contract and less than a year later to run off to another school. Nick Saban, anyone? No integrity whatsoever…and he did this to the school that gave him a chance to play college football (he was a walk-on at WVU)
by David Puddy on Dec 16, 2007 5:50 PM EST reply actions
re 22
Woody Dantzler was the genleman’s name.
WFVU needs to start working fast. If i were Eddie P my top 5 names would be
1. Bronco Mendenhall
2. Dan Mullen
3. Oregon’s OC who was HV at New Hampshire last year
4. Mike Leach
5. Troy Calhoun
Bronco Mendenhall would be an animal at WFVU. Mike Leach would be plain fucking awesome.
by Imposter Doug on Dec 16, 2007 5:51 PM EST reply actions
Here’s one I’m hereing Josh McDaniels , the Pats OC
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=2508&t=1666255&sto=pagestart
I <3 shameless rumor mongering!
by Imposter Doug on Dec 16, 2007 5:56 PM EST reply actions
- & #18
UM promised Rita a lifetime supply of Aqua-net..and year-round access to a IROC-Z.
by CapstoneAlum on Dec 16, 2007 5:58 PM EST reply actions
I don’t like Rich Rodriguez.
Just don’t like him. Not sure why.
Hope he does poorly at Michigan.
Not sure why.
by Rival on Dec 16, 2007 6:05 PM EST reply actions
I thought Michigan didn’t believe in affirmative action…Rodriguez?
by Rob on Dec 16, 2007 6:09 PM EST reply actions
#6: No, the posters at Bruins Nation always act borderline mentally handicapped.
Entertaining Conspiracy Theory of the Day, courtesy Mountaineer boards: Michigan was courting Rodriguez weeks ago, and he purposely threw the Pitt game so the fans and school would want him gone anyway, and there’d be no “Who’s going to coach us in the MNC?” hulabaloo. Which makes his poopy sad-face at the post-game conference a calculated act. Lies I say! LIES!
He also apparently still wants to coach them in the Fiesta Bowl, which Mountaineer fans will tell you is just a way to weasel out of the buyout clause and save Michigan a few extra, oh, millions or so.
by Kate on Dec 16, 2007 6:13 PM EST reply actions
Michigan was courting Rodriguez weeks ago, and he purposely threw the Pitt game so the fans and school would want him gone anyway, and there’d be no “Who’s going to coach us in the MNC?” hulabaloo.
Yeah, I hope no one honestly believes this. Why would someone throw away a guaranteed shot at a MNC right now for future tenuous shots at a different school? Sure, Michigan would pay more, but wouldn’t a MNC ring pretty much open the door to pretty much any coaching vacancy in the nation (and probably even create some new vacancies for you)?
by PW on Dec 16, 2007 6:18 PM EST reply actions
RR is perfectly qualified to coach UM. He can lose to his rival school and he loses one game inexplicably every year. The tOSU domination will continue until morale improves.
Couch burning in Morgantown and now Ann Arbor will commence now.
by Crabapple Buck on Dec 16, 2007 6:23 PM EST reply actions
Diane, I’m holding in my hand a small box of chocolate bunnies.
by PeteJayhawk on Dec 16, 2007 6:25 PM EST reply actions
“Country roads, take me home, to the place, I belong,!” sayeth Terry Bowden.
by Ed on Dec 16, 2007 6:41 PM EST reply actions
PW @30
Slaton and White were not desired recrtuits. They exlpoded and hence the (squandered) MNC opportunities. They are not likely to repeat themselves.
The prestige at Michigan is not be despised.
by marcillac on Dec 16, 2007 6:49 PM EST reply actions
My first question is, will he run an offense similar to that of WV or is he going to revert to fat guys running slowly at other fat guys. I’m hoping its the former. Michigan needs a change in Philosophy
by PTTO on Dec 16, 2007 7:01 PM EST reply actions
#25
Oregon’s OC is Chip Kelly, a spread offense guru brought in by Bellotti from UNH of all places.
And don’t forget Karl Dorrell is available.
#30
Posting that RichRod threw the Pitt game and a national title shot so he could take the Michigan job is just flat out retarded. Nothing borderline about it.
by UCLA Mob on Dec 16, 2007 7:03 PM EST reply actions
Thank God. Now the Big Ten is no longer the Big One but the Big Two. Or something like that.
by MorningBeer on Dec 16, 2007 7:33 PM EST reply actions
- - Bama’s Firebird offer just wasn’t good enough. Sure, it’s the same car, but the IROC-Z goes farther than the Bird…
by NewAZTiger on Dec 16, 2007 7:49 PM EST reply actions
35
I’m not sure you read my post correctly. What I was saying is that it would make no sense for Rodriguez to throw the Pitt game, which, had he won, would have given him a shot at a MNC. I didn’t mean to imply that WFVU had a guaranteed MNC shot every year and Michigan didn’t.
As far as I can tell, no school has a guaranteed shot every year.
by PW on Dec 16, 2007 7:51 PM EST reply actions
#37: LOL, boo hoo baby bear. Prefacing a post with the background info that it was an “Entertaining Conspiracy Theory” from the Mountaineer boards isn’t retarded, its sarcastically posting an entertaining conspiracy theory, and on a sports blog to boot. Oh nooes!
Nice try at a comeback though, too bad they don’t seem to teach reading comprehension at UCLA.
by Kate on Dec 16, 2007 8:03 PM EST reply actions
@37
Thank you for the Chip Kelly bit. His name totally slipped my mind. I wouldn’t knock his time at New Hampshire..they put up some NASTY numbers while he was there.
As for Karl Dorrel. Come on. Come on. WVU just lost their HC, their OC, their Recruiting Coordinator, and Terrelle Pryor in one night…lets not add insult to injury.
I only pray, for WVU’s sake, that they don’t give in to Terry Bowden. While he’s certainly a Mountaineer at heart and loves the state…he kind of sucks at coaching football.
by Imposter Doug on Dec 16, 2007 8:05 PM EST reply actions
What’s truly funny is that the joke’s on you, Michigan fan. Check out RR’s success record before Patrick White took over, and before Miami, VT, and BC left. Thanks for taking him off our hands. Worst. Gameday. Coach. Ever.
Prepare for these things:
1. Poor focus and preparation
2. Awful play calling
3. Zero in game adjustment
4. Losing every important game
5. Blaming said losses on players
6. Unable to take criticism
Enjoy. I wish you well in the future, you have a lovely institution.
by LouHoltzLithp on Dec 16, 2007 8:30 PM EST reply actions
#43,
So in other words, with the possible exception of #5, it’ll pretty much be as if Lloyd Carr never left.
by Chas on Dec 16, 2007 8:37 PM EST reply actions
- Not knocking UNH at all. Just found it interesting that Belotti knew to look there for the solution to his offensive woes.
- Relax, baby. I guess the term “borderline retarded” threw me. Usually we just say “Southern”
by UCLA Mob on Dec 16, 2007 8:49 PM EST reply actions
You oenophiles out there, can you tell me what kind of wine is made from the sour grapes of #43?
by Reasonable_Bama_Fan on Dec 16, 2007 9:17 PM EST reply actions
Re 47
I think #43 has a legitimate point. Losing Rodriguez may ultimately be better for the program, he was a pretty awful gameday coach and was a baby when it came to taking criticism. And if he stayed he’d entertain offers from another school next year.
What really sucks about RR leaving is that he’s taking his recruiting coordinator w/ him. WVU needs to go out and re-recruit everyone more or less.
Oh yeah-and they lost Pryor.
by Imposter Doug on Dec 16, 2007 9:31 PM EST reply actions
#45: Well to be fair, I actually wrote “mentally handicapped.” I really don’t like using the word “retarded,” as even my poor old “Southern” education taught me to be more politically-correct than that. So what was that about Bruin reading comprehension again?
by Kate on Dec 16, 2007 9:35 PM EST reply actions
I think it’s interesting. He apparently learned to skip the whole NFL-level and just go to another college. He learned from Spurrier, Carroll, Saban, Holtz and Petrino. I get the point Kate was trying to make: while interesting, mountaineer message boarders are mentally deficient on a grand scale.
BTW, what the hell is with the dick moves this season? I swear, some program is going to pick up a coach and find he was promising to marry a pregnant 16 year old at the last school and that’s why he bailed.
Mental note – fewer gin & tonics before posting.
by The Bull-Gator on Dec 16, 2007 9:40 PM EST reply actions
@#47
There are no sour grapes here. I have wanted him out since year 3. He truly is an awful coach that beats only very bad teams (and unfortunately for us, sometimes not those). He will be exposed at Michigan unless he gets another Pat White type of guy, one who is just so much more talented than the opponents. If he doesn’t, they can only hope to go 9-3 yearly. I mean, look at WVU’s big plays over the last 2-3 seasons. Virtually all of them come from broken pass plays and huge cutback runs by the back. The players’ decisions make WVU work, not RR.
So yep, pretty much like Carr never left.
by LouHoltzLithp on Dec 16, 2007 9:59 PM EST reply actions
Damn. I had no idea I was retarded, being from the South.
by bitterhorn on Dec 16, 2007 10:02 PM EST reply actions
Wtf, “RR” is becoming as viral as “A2”. Get over yourself, michiganfan. Rod-ree-geeze is the best thing to happen to that dusty old pair of pantaloons since… shitl, the Forward Pass. And it’s not like ya’ll did THAT very well anyway.
Enjoy the goodness. It could be much, much worse.
by bitterhorn on Dec 16, 2007 10:11 PM EST reply actions
Rich should probably not go back to WV after the Fiesta Bowl. You know some fan will give his house the couch treatment.
by Raider Red on Dec 16, 2007 10:34 PM EST reply actions
Now all you Mountaineers know how K-state fans felt when you yanked Huggins out of there for your b-ball team. It all evens out.
by Roaminggator on Dec 16, 2007 11:05 PM EST reply actions
Seeing these guys like RR and Petrino selling their souls & loyalty every five minutes is starting to disillusion me about college football in general. They’re are very few Paternos and Bowdens out there any more. Just hired guns with minimial relation to the school they’re at who switch in a heatbeat if they can squeeze another million out of someone.
by stapler on Dec 16, 2007 11:17 PM EST reply actions
#50
I disagree….there should be MORE gin and tonics, especially before posting.
Now, after four shooters of bathtub moonshine, I’m going to say…Cowher to WVU, it’s a done deal. He was spotted – midair – flying to Morgantown, while his cyborg double was doing the NFL show.
by NoleinTexas on Dec 16, 2007 11:39 PM EST reply actions
#56, coaches act like that because their schools have zero loyalty to them. Less than zero, actually, as they might have a fireyourname.com site up before you even sign a contract. So naturally they’re in it for themselves. The whole evil root of this tree is, of course, the big money.
by Reasonable_Bama_Fan on Dec 16, 2007 11:49 PM EST reply actions
Re 17- That he has enough sense to hold out for a school with lesser competition and less pressure.
by Chg on Dec 17, 2007 12:27 AM EST reply actions
There are some rather interesting rumors coming from the south linking Jimbo Fisher and WVU.
Also, Terry Bowden is actually a decent football coach, by far the best of the baby Bowdens.
by Meg on Dec 17, 2007 12:36 AM EST reply actions
Any offense will be better than Mike DeBord’s “2 yards and a cloud of dust, 45 times a game” abortion. Michigan has had its share of quick playmakers recently (Manningham, Breaston to name a few) who were effective when they got the ball in the open field; there just weren’t enough touches available. This should solve all that.
After losing to Ohio State 4 years in a row, it can’t get much worse, so the other criticisms of Rod don’t concern me much…yet.
by notthequarterback on Dec 17, 2007 12:44 AM EST reply actions
So is ESPN going to go all Petrino-Mercenary on Rich Rodriguez??
hmm. They both left their teams with games remaining.
Petrino took a huge cut in pay.
Rodriguez is getting a raise.
Petrino coaches grown men.
Rodriguez coaches 18-22-year-olds that he personally recruited to play amidst burning couches.
Yeah, there’s no way a fair and balanced journalistic entity like ESPN will let this fly. That Arthur Blank/Home Depot mouthpiece crap was just a big fat honky piece of dog shit.
Wait a minute…
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=3157619
Earthquakes have the Richter scale. Coaching moves have the newly developed, very scientific Petrino-Saban scale. Rodriguez’s decision to leave barely caused the needle to move. This move is justifiable, even if Rodriguez, 44, had to leave home to make it.
WHAT?
by Stephen Colboar on Dec 17, 2007 1:39 AM EST reply actions
Looks like Tommy Amaker dresses Rodriguez after they have sexy time together.
by Jorgé the Bass Player on Dec 17, 2007 2:00 AM EST reply actions
Fuck. Too many drinks. Looks like Tommy Amaker dresses Rodriguez after they have sexy time together.
by Jorgé the Bass Player on Dec 17, 2007 2:04 AM EST reply actions
I consider Rodriguez on the same level as Petrino. He just signed another gd contract last year saying he would stay. I wish the media would villify these guys the same way that they did Petrino.
by stapler on Dec 17, 2007 8:33 AM EST reply actions
Wait… the other shoe? When does it fall?
What other prominent coach might be called home… to WV?
by UgasTexan on Dec 17, 2007 8:54 AM EST reply actions
Remember, WV is Nick Saban’s home state. And he doesn’t have a buyout…
by HFS on Dec 17, 2007 9:01 AM EST reply actions
Thank you Michigan for screwing up the only BCS game that wasn’t going to be a total lop-sided blowout. That’s right, I’m calling my shot. All BCS games to be total lop-sided blowouts. The season of weeping is over!*
*if I’m wrong it’s because I’m American by birth, Retarded by the grace of God.
by Allahver Fist on Dec 17, 2007 9:11 AM EST reply actions
There is no loyalty in sports everyone. Coaches are fired all the time for underperformance before their contracts expire and sometimes the year after a contract extension. Players are bound somewhat because because of transfer rules, but they still jump to other schools if they think it’s a better opportunity. We fans are the ficklest assholes of all. If Rodriguez was averaging seven or eight wins a year WVU would have sent his ass to the curb with the fans applauding. So I say fuck all this loyalty talk. Almost nobody’s loyal in this business.
by Biggus Rickus on Dec 17, 2007 9:12 AM EST reply actions
John,
Can you please do a post of Bill Martin finally finding a nice girl to go home with?
by John on Dec 17, 2007 9:16 AM EST reply actions
Colboar,
The way ESPN blows the NFL, 2 shows every day during the season and in the offseason, pregame and postgame shows out the ass, especially on Sundays when they don’t show one blessed game, you would think that the NFL has ESPN on some sort of contract that NFL can opt out of within a 24 hour period.
Honestly, it is the NFL network that has ESPN scared out of their minds. If the NFL can figure out a way to get on the cable carriers, maybe eat some of the cost and increase commercials, charge more, whatever, then ESPN’s NFL days will be numbered.
It is only a matter of time, in my opinion, before the NFL networks starts showing the Draft, and just hires the leatherman away from the WWL.
by Coop on Dec 17, 2007 9:51 AM EST reply actions
The guy made Bama look like your every day run of the mill drunk Auburn KD; used and abused the poor gal and then went back home to sweetie pie the next day. A year later he leaves said stable sweetie pie for a more experienced lass who resembles Helen Miren.
He’s being exonerated from all of this how exactly? Petrino will be the coach of Michigan in 09 when Rodriguez leaves for Nebraska after Pellini bolts back to LSU after Miles takes the Bama job when Saban goes to the Patriots just after Auburn lands Bellichek to replace Tubbs who took over in San Diego.
by Bama93 on Dec 17, 2007 9:53 AM EST reply actions
Biggus-
Permission to use “Ficklest Assholes” for my fantasy football team next year?
by Mr. Wrong on Dec 17, 2007 10:01 AM EST reply actions
There is no loyalty in any business now, and to a great extent there never has been. Coaching is no different.
For every Bowden or Paterno, there are 100 other coaches bouncing from school to school, getting fired or moving up the ladder financially and in terms of prestige. Even some of the “legends” of coaching made lots of moves before settling down—Bear Bryant went from Kentucky to A&M to Alabama. Darrell Royal was at Washington(!) and somewhere else before that (can’t remember where) before ending up at Texas. There are lots of other examples of legendary coaches moving over the years.
The big difference now is that the money is much bigger than ever before (even adjusting for inflation and the like, I’d say) and that the ravenous 24-hour sports media needs something to talk about 24 hours a day and feeds on stories like the Petrino, Saban and now Rodriguez sagas. In the old days, maybe a newspaper columnist would write a nasty screed or some fans would hold up angry signs. Now, every sports-radio host and TV talking head in the country—not to mention every blogger, pundit and Internet hack—has his say.
by Boston Frog on Dec 17, 2007 10:13 AM EST reply actions
Diff between Rich Rod and Pet Rhino is pretty simple: one told his players, in person no less, he was leaving.
The other hid a note in their lockers a day after saying he was their coach.
It sucks for WVA, but this is hardly a Saban or Petrino-like move. Not even a Tubervillian move.
by Will (the other one) on Dec 17, 2007 10:38 AM EST reply actions
Re 73:
You forgot Wade Phillips to WVU and Lou Holtz to Dallas.
by Imposter Doug on Dec 17, 2007 10:38 AM EST reply actions
Wow, I didn’t see this one coming.
Michigan’s got a FEVAH, and then only cure is MOAR SPREAD, BABY!
by Techie on Dec 17, 2007 10:59 AM EST reply actions
72 — The NFL Network already shows the draft, and its coverage is already better than ESPN’s. Of course, they do lack the opinion of Eddie Munster Jr.
by Yinka Double Dare on Dec 17, 2007 11:05 AM EST reply actions
Biggus @ 70: You know, this is all Ty Willingham’s fault.
by oc phil on Dec 17, 2007 11:43 AM EST reply actions
The Governor of West Virginia is in on the whining, too: “I have known Rich for most of his life, from a boy whose only wish was to play football at WVU to a young man whose only wish was to coach at WVU, Something is wrong with the profession of college coaching today when a leader’s word is no longer his bond.”
Are you KIDDING ME? Doesn’t the governor of the damned state have anything better to do than worry about the state school’s football team? And bad-mouthing a guy who he’s known since he was a boy? Unbelievable.
by Kelly Williams on Dec 17, 2007 12:10 PM EST reply actions
RE: Kelly Williams
Uh, I really doubt that a few comments about the state’s flagship football program took up the governor’s entire day. Is he supposed to refuse to answer or comment about anything outside the realm of politics?
by stapler on Dec 17, 2007 3:25 PM EST reply actions

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