Comments on: CURIOUS INDEX, 12/4/07

By: Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ

Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:17:22 +0000

Since you want to call my comment about a Conf. Champ game Bullshit. Then don’t talk about the long layoff, THAT”S BULLSHIT. Hell just play 1 game and go undefeated, if you can. See, that’s bullshit too!

By: Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ

Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:07:23 +0000

#65
As long as most conferences have a Conf. Champ game it is going to matter to voters & computers.
1.It does put your 2 division winners at risk, or conversely, give 1 of them another win. It’s hard to go 12-0 when you only play 11 games.
2. Don’t give me the greed thing, we’ve got coaches making 2-4 mil. A good bowl game pays pretty good too.
3 A team that is 12-0 would rate higher than a team that is11-0, especially since they played a Conf. Champ game.
4. The only reason not to play a Conf. Champ game is to keep your top team from losing. Oh, and if you like long layoffs between your last regular season game and your bowl game. Every conference benefits $$$$ wise from a Conf. Champ game. If you claim it’s for greed then that could carry over to bowl games. I’m sure teams would go play a bowl game for free.
5.As long as we’re going to have this BCS crap, let’s get it as right as possible. And that’s not happening now.

By: bbc08

bbc08 — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:47:55 +0000

Note how Willingham is the only coach not to rank #14 BC. Figures he never forgot about that spoiled undefeated season.

By: fustigator

fustigator — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:53:48 +0000

For the record the official of the Civil War game between OSU and Oregon was officiated by an alum of Lewis and Clark Law School, not Oregon. That said, the Sooners got screwed in Eugene…which isn’t a bad thing.

By: SwampThing08

SwampThing08 — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:06:12 +0000

Tebow’s response:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XCbW2d7Lbc

Do you think he said “system” enough? Gotta love it.

By: slap-of-WAC

slap-of-WAC — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:41:07 +0000

I suspect Hal Mumme was just being ironic.

No idea what’s up with June Jones’ gratuitous shot at Tim Tebow. Coach has always been kind of an opaque guy.

By: Russ

Russ — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:04:43 +0000

@34
“Time will tell. I do think he will be drafted high, though. If for no other reason than as Jacksonville resident, if he is available as a Top-10 pick and the team doesnt mortgage the future to get him, there will be a widespread revolt among what Jags fans there are. Sadly, it might come down to drafting Tebow to keep the Jags from having every game blacked out and/or keeping the team in Jax. Blatant ploy or not.”

Not to equate the Jags with the Texans, but never underestimate the power of an NFL franchise to stick their head up their ass. The Texans passed on newly minted MNC hero and local high school product Vince Young (and then passed on Reggie Bush for good measure) so they could draft Mario Williams. The stupidity was astounding, simply from the PR aspect. Regardless of whether or not VY will be a great QB, he would definitely put fans in the stands, including people like my wife that is a UT fan, but couldn’t care less about the NFL. I’d really hate to see the Jags make the same boneheaded move.

By: Exley

Exley — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:53:14 +0000

Did anybody else notice that both times the article mentioned Tommy Bowden’s voting record (once to say he voted Clemson up unfairly, and once to mention erratic voting – putting Oklahoma at number 10) those vote cited were actually the votes of Bobby Bowden down at FSU? Not sure if that was intentional or accidental, but just thought I would point out that inaccuracy.

By: Innocent Bystander

Innocent Bystander — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:37:56 +0000

27:

Fuck off. Oklahoma lost that game fair and square. If you don’t like it, don’t get your last-second FG blocked and try to blame the loss on an obviously atrocious call. That penalty didn’t automatically allow Oregon to score two touchdowns in two minutes on you.

Having said that, that whole UO grad thing is another example of why the Pac-10 sucks and its refs are the worst in all of CFB. Seriously, how fucking stupid can you be to assign a ref with an obvious stake in a rivalry to cover a game?? You just. Don’t. Do. That.

By: Jimer

Jimer — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:28:54 +0000

#44 you make no discernable points. Tebow completes 69% of his passes and has the highest yards per attempt of any QB over 300 attempts in the country. Is that not accurate? Hell, I am happy if I can make 70% of my piss in the toilet with my basset hound circling around underfoot, and he is no Quentin Groves, lemmetellya.

Your comment stating that he “throws mostly short easy completion underneath or bombs” is negligent at best. Cornelious Ingram has made quite a name for himself catching intermediate routes from Tebow this year.

Yes, you do tend to throw for a higher percentage in the spread offense if you execute properly. That can only be done if you have a QB who is a running threat and can throw on the run with accuracy. I could be wrong, but dont Washington, Syracuse and Illinois run a variant of the spread and their QB’s rank 116, 110, and 88th nationally in completion percentage. I would understand you calling them innacurate. Moreover, it is erroneous to pass off a blanket statement like that as fait accompli, for the term spread offense can refer to a lot of offensive schemes that utilize multiple receivers with one or no backs aligning in the backfield. To that regard, yes indeed Oklahoma runs the spread offense. If I’m not mistaken, Oklahoma was one of the original schools to introduce the spread, along with Clemson, Northwestern, West Virginia, Kentucky, and Texas Tech. Does that negate Bradfords accuracy or efficiency? I would say no. The kid is a player.

Your comment that Tebow is not a great runner is horseshit. I suppose Keegan Herring (Arizona St ),Jehuu Caulcrick (Mich St), Kaipo-Noa Kaheaku-Enhada (Navy), DeMarco Murray (OU), Javorskie Lane and Goodson (Texas A&M), Graig Cooper (Miami), CJ Spiller (Clemson), Kellen Lewis (Indiana), Mike Ford (USF) all suck then, because Tebow had more rushing yards than they had. Rushing TDs you ask? He was third in the fucking nation in that. I suppose Florida’s spread made him so much better than those mentioned above, many of whom may share the same offense, right? Last I checked 4.3 per carry is not too shabby. As a Gator, I will sacrifice him not being a game breaker take it to the house guy for him being a big play short yardage guy. To say he not a good rusher is a joke. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Oh, and I suppose you were there with the stopwatch and verified first hand that he is in fact .12 of a second slower than the Florida coaches report. What say you now, lawya?

By: D-nice

D-nice — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:17:38 +0000

@13 – Agree with most of your BCS improvements.

But, your points relating of a championship game are bullshit. I know it’s repeated over and over by the talking heads, but no one made the Big 12, SEC and ACC start having championships games. All of those conferences did it out of greed. The benefits, as well as the drawbacks of such games should remain sqarely within those conferences.

Until the the powers that be mandate a championship game, then I’d say no to your championship game factors. Also, I think a conference needs 12 teams for a championship game, and it’s not like the Big Televen has a lot of great prospects as long as ND continues want to survive on their own.

By: Stacy Keibler Luvs Me

Stacy Keibler Luvs Me — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:42:29 +0000

How ‘Bout ‘em Bs-BCS Computers:

Some of the coaches choices were bad, that is a given, but for truly, total bull-crappity, check out how the Bs-BCS computers recently ranked the teams. That is an abomination. The computers ended up with the following:

Va Tech #1 (the Ohios were No 3)

Some of the computers had Kansas ahead of Miss-you, even though Mizz-whatever whacked Kansas recently.

The computer component should be whacked and as bad as the coaches and harris voters are, it would be better to leave it to the humans for this bs-BCS rankings, or at least the last poll.

By: Boy Howdy

Boy Howdy — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:30:47 +0000

The lone moralist in college football? Mack Brown, of course. Every coach except the Longhorns� voted their team higher than their actual finish.

Well, every coach who has a vote, at least.

By: Stacy Keibler Luvs Me

Stacy Keibler Luvs Me — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:46:07 +0000

Favorite Clown Dept:

My favorite clown was the Dadgumster from Free Shoes University.

He ranked Arizona State above USC in his latest poll, even though USC whacked the crap out of AZ State a few weeks ago.

Time for Bowden to join Corso on the Clown Couch.

By: MassDad

MassDad — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:41:43 +0000

Coaches voting in their own interests! Shocking. Seriously, if they wanted to make it meaningful, this poll would be treated like any other collection of data points. Assume some possible outliers (fits doesn’t it) and throw out some of the top and bottom extremes. Assuming you have roughly 30 votes, throw out the top three and bottom three votes for each team. Since the poll is unlikely to have more than three coaches from any conference, would also help to reduce conference-block influence. (With the internet being a great datamine, holding past transgressions up to ridicule and show the result on final polls might also help. Go to it, FB statigeeks.)