CURIOUS INDEX, 12/4/07
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Show me your scruples… If you weren’t quite convinced that this whole BCS system is a giant, steaming pile of elephant dung, you will be once you get through the coaches ballots. Among my favorties: **Lllloyd Carr - the 4 L version - voted his Wolverines 21st, a full ten spots ahead of their actual ranking. Oregon, the team Lloyd could not stay within 30 points of at home, is not on his ballot at all. **Dennis Franchione, apparently not content to fuck one football program in the ass, sent a parting shot to Hawaii, ranking them 22nd. Hal Mumme, seeing the team he wished he had, voted the Rainbow Warriors #1. **Tommy Bowden threw darts at his ballot. Oklahoma landed in the 10 spot, four behind… Missouri. Mkay. **The lone moralist in college football? Mack Brown, of course. Every coach except the Longhorns’ voted their team higher than their actual finish. As noted at DC Sports Blog: “The most stark moral offenders are: Lloyd Carr (10 spots difference), Mike Bellotti (8), Chris Petersen (6), Mike Riley (5), Randy Edsall (5), Tommy Bowden (5), Mike Leach (4), Ron Zook (4) and Phillip Fulmer (4). Frank Beamer (3) didn’t quite make this cut, but he was the only coach to vote Virginia Tech No. 2, meaning he tried to put his own team in the title game and no one else did.” **Howard Schnellenberger? Marching to his own beat. USC is ranked behind… Boise State? Crazy Requires Charisma Hawaii coach June Jones says Tim Tebow is a “system quarterback” and his own gunslinger Colt Brennan is college football’s best player. (HT: Wiz) Lord knows this blog couldn’t survive without all the feet coaches lodge in their mouths, but I’m a firm believer that if you’re gonna take the plunge into the abyss of absurd quotes, you gotta do so with charisma. Think pirates. June Jones?
Brian Cook suicide watch: day 13 Your uniforms match my penalty flag. Oregon State may have gotten the last laugh, but not without a valiant fight from the officials, who tried oh so hard to keep the Ducks in Saturday’s Civil War. And as Oregon State blogger Building The Dam points out, that may not have been much of a coincidence. Eugene officiating conspiracies: not going away any time soon! You gotta love it. |
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Jimer,
I agree with almost everything you typed, except the part about pocket presence. He doesn’t stand in a pocket and throw. That more than anything else is why I don’t think he’ll be drafted overly high or necessarily succeed in the NFL. He could learn it obviously, but he’d be something of a project upon entering the league.
Comment by Biggus Rickus — December 4, 2007 @ 9:49 am
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is Hawaii playing UF next year?
Comment by stapler — December 4, 2007 @ 9:43 am
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I guess the “system” has Timmy benching near 500lbs, squatting 700+, and running a 4.48. If so, then yes, the system does allow him to consistently run over lb’s on the goal line to score TDs. Ask defenders from any of the 19 teams that he has run over to score a rushing touchdown against in his 26 games as a collegian if the system is what made the play against them. What a fricking asinine statement. I think I just threw up in my mouth contemplating such fatuousness.
System player and innacurate, huh? In response, I pose the question, would he be able to be the most second most efficient quarterback in the NCAA or throw for 9,810 yards and 95 TD’s in 5A high school ball in Florida if he could not throw the football? Moreover, what QB isn’t a product of the system? I mean, Joe Montana is a product of a system, as is Brady, Manning, etc… you get my point. In fact, the only people you can truly classify as system QBs are the Colt Brennans, Changs, and long line of texas tech qb progeny that just throw the ball 8 yards 70 times a game. Tim Tebow’s system is the Spread Offense. It relies on a QB’s ability to pose a threat running and passing the ball. Without an ability to pass, the QB is not a threat and the whole offense suffers. See Juice Williams, 9 Zook 3 (Ill 2007). Spread offenses by nature do not put up gaudy passing numbers, so the fact that Tebow is throwing for what he has should be a great indicator of his passing ability. If Tebow had to be a drop back passer and run an offense out of the I-Formation, he may be a little less effective, but the guy could still put up big numbers. He has a great arm, above average accuracy and a strong pocket presence. The interrogatory I propound that would most accurately prove my point is: Did Chris Leak put up these type of numbers last year in the “system?” No, he did not.
Comment by Jimer — December 4, 2007 @ 9:40 am
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Yes, the problem with the BCS is the computers.*
* This was Herbstreit’s take the last couple of years. Riiiiight, Kirk.
Comment by Raider Red — December 4, 2007 @ 9:37 am
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Kansas just scored again
How long do you think we could say this before people forget what the hell we’re talking about?
Comment by SpookyJuice — December 4, 2007 @ 9:37 am
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Better June Jones video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=e36f-Yql5MM
Comment by Year2-Dave — December 4, 2007 @ 9:33 am
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where’s stranko?
Comment by Cameron Siggs — December 4, 2007 @ 9:31 am
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and i’m with 12 on the beatdown that this is going to cause next year in gainesville. it’s gonna get reeeeeeeeaaaaallllll ugly.
Comment by Cameron Siggs — December 4, 2007 @ 9:27 am
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the funniest part of the whole ‘coaches don’t watch games/june jones thinks he15man is a system quarterback” thing is that if june “mainland” jones bothered to do any looking around at all, he’d realize that TT broke all of the florida high school passing records (well not all but c’mon, he only played 3 seasons) held by xaviar lee and danial weurffel. his “inaccurate” arm has given him a passing rating of 177.9, second in the nation to oklahoma’s sam bradford (who did it in a real conference) and OVER the non-system but PUREPASSINGOMGLOL!!!1!!! qb colt brennan. if you compare TT’s high school numbers to colt’s in college, you’ll see TT is clearly the better quarterback, as colt “the face” brennan’s fighting rainbows has only played high school teams. and boise state.
Comment by Cameron Siggs — December 4, 2007 @ 9:25 am
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#8, right on.
Thank you June Jones. I am sure that Urban and Timmy appreciate the incentives you have provided them to pound you without mercy in the Swamp next year. I’m calling 80+ points right now. I fucking kid you not.
It should be a nice little tune up to the ass raping we give Randy Shannon’s boys a week later.
Eat shit June Jones, you arrogant NFL fucktard.
Comment by Jimer — December 4, 2007 @ 9:21 am
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#8 - I think (THINK) what he is saying is that Colt actually transcends the system. They can win with Jason Whatever but with Colt they are magic. So what he is saying is that Colt Brennan is Jesus.
Comment by lost in ube — December 4, 2007 @ 9:19 am
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“Oregon, the team Lloyd could not stay within 30 points of at home, is not on his ballot at all.”
I can’t defend putting Michigan in the top 25, but I can defend putting Michigan over Oregon. What? Should we rank Oregon as though Dennis Dixon weren’t out for the year? Without him, they’re a shell of the team that beat the Wolverines in September.
Comment by Daniel — December 4, 2007 @ 9:17 am
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Nobody is happy with the BCS, but it could be improved.
1. SOS assign a value.
2. Margin of Victory, put a limit on it. But assign some kind of value although it shouldn’t be too much.
3. Conference Champ. More points for playing a REAL championship game.
4.# of games played, kinda like #3.You are putting your 2 best teams at risk of a loss in a championship game
5.Head to head during season, if teams are ranked close.
6. A loss is a loss, shouldn’t matter when it occured.
7. Unrelated, Timeouts can only be called by a player on the field.
8.Holding, If you grab somebodies jersey that’s holding
9 No more spiking the ball to stop clock, that’s intentional grounding. I know it’s legal but it’s not right.
10.Put the kickoff back on the 35
11.Stop this BS of calling T/O just b4 a FG. I’m talking a nano second b4 snap
12. Make all plays reviewable.
5 No polls of any kind until 4-5 games are played
Comment by Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ — December 4, 2007 @ 9:09 am
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#8 - Yes, that would be what’s known as “Hoop Snake” logic.
Comment by Brian — December 4, 2007 @ 9:01 am
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FAt Phil is a notorious Coach Poll fucker. There I said it. I hate Phil Fulmer. I feel better.
Comment by Scalz1 — December 4, 2007 @ 8:59 am
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June Jones is an idiot. First, he hypes Colt Brennan because he’s a ‘great QB’. Then he goes on to talk about how great their system is because they beat Alabama with Chang’s backup–presumably because of their system. Am I crazy, or does he completely undermine his own point?
I won’t even bring up the fact that he accused Tebow of not being an accurate passer even though the numbers bear out that he was the most accurate passer in the nation. Wouldn’t want to confuse Jones with the facts.
Comment by CKGator — December 4, 2007 @ 8:54 am
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Ahh, the Coaches Poll, the biggest joke in sports. Between the giant conflict of interest and the fact that the fucking coaches don’t even watch the games, it mystifies me why this poll is a component of the BCS.
Comment by karlhungus12 — December 4, 2007 @ 8:52 am
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How is it possible that Tressel voted his team higher than their actual finish?
Comment by Tom — December 4, 2007 @ 8:52 am
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Nice job Peter…thanks for keeping the fixes coming.
The only thing worse than the BCS would be a playoff. Go back to the original format. It was better for the overall health of college football.
The sportsertainment leader disagrees, of course, but that’s ok.
Comment by OhioDawg — December 4, 2007 @ 8:43 am
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What about Stoops and his blatent attempt to get OU into the game.
Comment by Jonathan — December 4, 2007 @ 8:40 am
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It is kind of a dumb statement by Jones but I’ve never had a problem with coaches hyping up their own guys. Hell, his quote will make a great epitaph for Brennan after the Dawgs get done with him.
Comment by stapler — December 4, 2007 @ 8:40 am
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Well, to be fair Oregon lost their starting quarterback…
Comment by Meh — December 4, 2007 @ 8:37 am
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Page 6 gossip columnistMichigan blogger Brian Cook*complicated series of snaps*
Comment by Holly — December 4, 2007 @ 8:33 am
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Jones is probably right about the pro prospects of the two, but every QB is the product of his system and Tebow has run his remarkably well against far better competition than Brennan. Hell, Matt Stafford will be drafted higher than Tebow when the two go pro, but draft status has nothing to do with the Heisman.
Comment by Biggus Rickus — December 4, 2007 @ 8:31 am
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I believe Hawaii “Warriors” is the preferred nomenclature, dude.
Comment by Aerobab — December 4, 2007 @ 8:27 am