MMM, WHO DOESN’T LOVE PRESS CONFERENCES?
The fact we have to wait for a selection show doesn’t seem half as unusual this year as a college football fan. As strange as it’s been, Barry Alvarez could come on the screen in a Cat-in-the-Hat raver cap, technicolor-striped pants, and twirling two glow sticks while screaming “SOMEONE GAVE ME BAAAAAAD DRUGS!!!” and it would feel apropos. It’s been bad trippy time for football fans everywhere this entire season–why change now? Just put Thom Brennaman in the fat pants, dose him on some cut-rate MDMA, turn on the camera, and let the fun begin. WHO LOVES YOU? AND WHO DO YOU LOVE THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP
It feels so good when you touch my head…where’s my gum?
So while we all wait for the BCS selection show, please note that EDSBS Live, America’s Most Outstandingly Mediocre College Football Show, has been moved for one week only to Monday night on account of Peter Bean, our co-host, being exceedingly occupied this week for reasons unknown. (He’s secretly negotiating for the job of defensive coordinator of the Texas Longhorns. Let it be known that we think he’d be just as good as their current management.) It will be broadcast live tomorrow night when we’ve got BCS selections to discuss and a bit more time on our hands as a duo.
Regular programming continues apace tomorrow. For the record, we think placing the entire undefeated 2004 Auburn squad and the 12-0 1994 Penn State Nittany Lions would make as much sense as any other arrangement you choose, since the BCS is made to hand pick a pair of lions from the pride for their title game, not pull a pair a pair of random feral cats from a sack.
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Thor says:
BTW- LSU opens as a 4 1/2 favorite, has already moved to 6
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:21 pm
202
D-nice says:
Missouri doesn’t get a BCS bid because they had to play a team twice?
Not one, but 2 teams, Illinois and Kansas, get BCS bids and Missouri beat both – convincingly (don’t let the final score of the Illinois game fool you).
I’m and Illinois fan, but still think that’s wrong.
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:23 pm
203
Thor says:
More early lines
Georgia -8
VT -1
OU -4 1/2
USC -14!!!
Food for thought, if VT schedules The Citadel instead of LSU they would be playing anOSU in the MNC game. The system works??? Still don’t want a playoff?
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:26 pm
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GatorAM says:
Finals week sucks/stapler:
Honestly, you’ve been going off about this for two days now. Please, please, please let it go. No one is EVER going to buy into your argument of “they had the number one ranking twice and lost it so obviously they don’t deserve it, yada.”
First of all, you’re not even attempting to take off your red and black glasses to see how the rest of the conference, and the country for that matter, views your team’s situation. There is no jobbing. There is no intentional slighting of Georgia in this scenario. You played a good year of football and need to recognize that you have an opportunity to kick some ass in a BCS bowl game and make your team and the SEC look phenomenal, while positioning yourselves for a primo pre-season ranking in 2008.
Your arguments and logic are flawed and now you’re resorting to name calling (trashy LSU fans, etc) to get people to pay attention to you. I’m actually sorry that I’m responding to you at all, but I’m hoping you will eventually take a step back and realize that you’re being pretty fucking ridiculous about all of this.
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:26 pm
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stapler says:
So this is what confuses me: if Hawaii beats UGA, what exactly does that prove anyway?
A) Hawaii is better.
B) UGA is better but did not care about the game.
C) Hawaii did not care about this game but is actually so good that they won anyway despite UGA caring very much.
D) Hawaii did not care about this game but is actually so good that they won anyway despite UGA not caring at all.
E) Gators wear jean shorts.
F) UGA straight up don’t give a fuck because they were shafted by LSwho? and Richt thinks that is 1987 and he is back at “Da U”
I’m thinkin’ B. Or F.
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:30 pm
206
GatorAM says:
Wow…
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:31 pm
207
Thor says:
#200
Auburn was eligible for a BCS game last year and beat both LSU and Florida and didn’t get a BCS bid. It’s about the bowls picking, the Sugar Bowl took LSU instead of AU. Easy choice for them, shit happens get over it. The system puts #1ish vs #2ish, it doesn’t say Mizzou is more deserving than Kansas, it would be nice if it did. Then we could have UGA vs USC and OU vs WVU and VT vs Mizzou, and Illinous vs Florida? but it doesn’t work that way.
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:31 pm
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janus09 says:
#203
You’re already throwing out the “Georgia doesn’t care about this game, even though it’s a freakin’ BCS bowl” card for a possible loss to Hawaii?
Trust me, they care.
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:35 pm
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D-nice says:
I’m actually lookin forward to the title game now.
If OSU wins, SEC fanatics will have to shut the fuck up (well at least for a moment, we all know they’ll start again)
If LSU wins, especially if they win convincingly, OSU (and the Big 10 by association) will never be able to live down 2 bad NC game losses in a row, or at least not until the Big 10 wins 2 consecutive championships over the SEC.
Yeah, I don’t think OSU is a great choice, but everybody – you need to blame the pollsters. It’s not the Tressel’s fault, it’s not the players fault. And, you know if your team was being doubted by a lot of people about a NC slot, you wouldn’t give a shit. Do we not expect OSU to go to the game?
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 pm
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janus09 says:
207
LSU could lose by 100 and there would still be a ton of people screaming inane stuff like
S peed
E quals
C hampionships
Trust me.
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:39 pm
211
Thor says:
#207, If LSU wins and so does any two of the following, USC, OU, Kansas, UGA we could get some crazy stuff going. “Out of chaos comes change”
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:40 pm
212
stapler says:
I’m an SEC homer but I am not sold on LSU winning. The BCS championship game underdog has been staright money lately. And after this season I don’t think I would touch tOSU-LSwho. Hell, LSwho? had half a hundred hung on ‘em on their last home game of the season, but an UNRANKED team. Sweet Jesus, how did they make the MNC game again? Something does not make sense.
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:40 pm
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GatorAM says:
The score of LSU’s last home game is irrelevant. Georgia lost to South Carolina and was dominated by Tennessee, the same team that lost to LSU in the SECCG. I don’t play transitive football, but you have to see why most people would take issue with putting Georgia in the title game over LSU given those circumstances.
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:46 pm
214
Thor says:
Arkansas is ranked #25
Overtime games have higher scores
You are mentally handicapped.
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:51 pm
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JTG says:
A note for the Rose Bowl Committee:
http://www.despair.com/tradition.html
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:53 pm
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PW says:
stapler,
How many times do I have to point out that 22 of that “half hundred” came in the THREE EXTRA PERIODS?
Also, Arkansas is #25 in the AP poll and, as such, is not unranked.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:01 am
217
Mr Pelican Pants says:
The travesty of this is Georgia should play USC or hell play Oklahoma……Mizzou, beat the crap outta Kansas and showed they were posers and KU leapfrogs them?? KU didnt even go to the damn Conf championship plus got beat by Mizzou…how in the fuck does that compute? On what planet? I am a SEC homer, but something about the Big 12 and how they decide who goes where is fucked beyond fucked…That would be like Alabama beating Auburn, then Alabama finishing 2nd in the SEC, and Auburn jumps them for a BCS bowl…..Thats the math I would like to see the formula for….Is it too much to ask for decent football during the bowl season? WVU vs Oklahoma? After Pat White a) breaks a nail b) pulls a muscle c) gets tattooed at full speed—-they will have to bring the back up in and then its Katy bar the door….
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:03 am
218
Chg says:
Stapler, the dumbest thing you say is your “Half a hundred” mantra. Just stop saying that.
It was three overtimes. To talk as if it was some sort of horrible meltdown (like say, UGa’s vs. Tennessee) makes you seem to be either a ridiculously blind homer, or one lacking the ability to formulate cogent arguments.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:08 am
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Defender90 says:
#182 (”Ohio State played 6 teams with a winning record and played teams OOC with a better combined record than 9-27″)
Please tell me you’re not seriously flashing your OOC cred by mentioning the records of Youngstown State, Akron, and Kent State. The teams that made up their stellar records must be true powerhouses.
I’m a USC fan and don’t believe we deserved the NC game (yes, because of the loss to Stanford). However, I would much rather have had USC-GA or USC-Mizzou or USC-Florida (if we HAVE to play a 3-loss team) in the Rose Bowl. However, since the Illini beat your Buckeyes, I can understand your enthusiasm for their inclusion in the BCS mess.
Mizzou got seriously screwed – sorry, Kansas fans. Meanwhile, USC and GA are both in the sucky position of playing teams in bowl games they will get absolutely no credit for beating and be raked over the coals for not steamrolling.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:14 am
220
X says:
So an undefeated Auburn team from the SEC can’t make the “title” game, but a two loss LSU team can? I call shennanegans!
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 am
221
poguemahone says:
Just one year later and the tables have totally turned:
2006:
Ohio State: Defeated two numbers twos, played four ranked teams all season, blew out every OOC team they played including defending national champs Texas in Austin, defense played well up until the final few games, and was getting ready to blow out Florida:
Florida: Struggled all year, had a great defense, but no offensive consistency whatsoever, beat one possibly good team in LSU, but no one else of much merit.
LSU: played five ranked teams, blew out every OOC team they played, had a dominant defense up until the final few games, and still picked to win decisively over Ohio State despite the struggles of their defense.
OSU: Hasn’t beat anyone of merit, hasn’t looked great for one entire game, offense is inconsistent, defense is a killer and has yet to be “exposed” by anyone.
Can we at least wait until after the title game to judge these two teams? I’m not sold on either of them.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:17 am
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poguemahone says:
Oh, and don’t say “Illinois exposed Ohio State” because we gave them the game with turnovers. We were no more exposed by Illinois than LSU was by both Kentucky and Arkansas.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:20 am
223
Captain Awesome says:
As a USC fan I don’t really know what to think about the matchup, but I do think that one thing is being overlooked here:
“The Rose Bowl was not allowed to select Georgia because of a rule that protected SEC teams from being selected once LSU went to the BCS title game. Florida was also not an option under that rule, which was passed when Iowa was selected in the 2003 Orange Bowl to play USC, which forced the Rose Bowl to select Oklahoma.”
From Scott Wolf’s blarg, I mean blog.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:21 am
224
stapler says:
52 points is actually more than half a hundred. 100 divided by 2 is 50. LSwho lost to Arkansas AT HOME and they allowed Arkansas to put 52 points on the scoreboard. I love how you people want to get all technical about it and say, “uh, well it was overtime, yeah, so allowing unranked teams to hang 50+ on ya at home is okay cause it was overtime, uh” like that is an actual cohesive argument. It’s really quite sad, but then again millions of corporate dollars have been spent trying to brainwash the public into wanting LSwho to play in the MNC, so what can I expect?
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:21 am
225
D-nice says:
I don’t think Illinois will beat USC.
Pete Carroll is a genius at making games seriously matter to his team, even after larger goals (usually the NC) have fallen by the wayside. Cliche – but’s he’s a great motivator.
USC, as injured as they were, could have beaten (or at least gone into overtime) with Oregon when Dixon was healthy. Juice Williams is good, but he’s no Dixon.
That said, anything can happen, and I hope Illinois isn’t just happy to be there.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:28 am
226
PW says:
221
Check your facts, motherfucker.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=273270099
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:29 am
227
geaux says:
Tennessee hung half a hundred on UGA. Piss off.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:32 am
228
PW says:
224
You too.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=272792633
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 am
229
stapler says:
223, I stand corrected. It was not really 50+, but instead a nice, clean “half a hundred.” Thanks for correcting me.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:35 am
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PW says:
And what corporation spent these millions of dollars trying to convince the public that LSU deserves to be in the MNC game? Also, where does public opinion plug into the BCS formula?
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:36 am
231
stapler says:
Oh I don’t know. How about the fact over the past two months I can barely turn on the TV without getting spoon fed more crap on how exciting LSwho is or having to see another picture of Les Miles plastered all over the screen. Maybe there are not corporate dollars per se, but damn LSwho got a helluva a lot of air time this season. I don’t think sports center went over a ten minute stretch without mentioning Miles about 200 damn times.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:40 am
232
vegas_buckeye says:
I think Mr Swindle said it best when he said, “WOOOOOOOO ESSSSS EEEEEEE SEEEEEEEE!”
Sorry, just wanted to poke my head in on everyone’s little SEC bukakke party. You all enjoy stroking each other off – I’m gonna go dry hump Vernon Gholston’s arms for the 5th time today.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:47 am
233
PW says:
The more you type, the worse your argument sounds.
Keep in mind the fact that I’m on your side. I thought UGA deserved to go to the MNC game. It doesn’t mean LSU is garbage, it just means that I thought Georgia was a little better.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:48 am
234
Jorgé the Bass Player says:
Mike Slive and the other B(C)S assholes are a bunch of lousy cocksuckers who want to wipe their bullshit all over college football.
Give us our fucking playoff already!
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:55 am
235
Futbawl Fan says:
ahhh…the wonderful warmth of hatred keeping me warm on this chilly fall night…
let’s see… what have we learned so far this season?….
- almost any team can beat the other team on any given weekend (Michigan/AppSt)
- a great team with a bad coach can still pull off many big wins (LSU V several) but can lose one (or two?!!!) and still be considered great
- mighty juggernauts stumble every 5 seasons or so (USCw)
- even a blind hog can find a peanut every now and then (IL, Mizzou, Hawaii, Kansas, BC) but in the end they usually fall in a ditch
- even small schools in great recruiting areas can have a good team (USF)
- sometimes one great player can make all the difference (Tebow Daniels McFadden but mostly Dixon)
- Great teams may fall very low but beware the giant when he rises back up (ND, Ala)
- and the most important thing…. just when your ego lets you think you have this college football thing figured out, along comes a season like 2007 to humble you again
bless you Orson for giving us this fine fine soapbox to stand on for a brief moment each week
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:16 am
236
Futbawl Fan says:
oh yeah…one last thing
PLAYOFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:17 am
237
AZDuck says:
Among the best proposals I’ve heard,a little counter-intuitive thinking:
Get RID of the 12-team conferences and the championship games.
Instead, move teams into 10-team conferences in which EVERY team plays EVERY other team (like the Pac-10 does now).
Mandate that, in order to be a “BCS” conference, every team from a BCS conference must play at least one home-and-home game with a team from another BCS conference every year, OOC.
Mandate that no more 1AA games are allowed, period.
No more “independents.” Everyone is in a conference. Any teams choosing to remain independent take their own chances at getting selected to a BCS bowl.
With the broken-off bits of the Big 10, SEC, ACC, and Big XII, you should be able to craft 2 more “BCS” leagues.”
All 119 teams in 1A would be graded on the BCS every year, and a four-year rolling average would be used to relegate teams from the BCS conferences and promote teams from the non-BCS conferences. This way, a team from non-BCS-land which has been consistently performing at a higher level (say, BYU, Boise, Hawaii) would be able to get into a BCS league, and teams that severely underperform (Syracuse, Iowa State) would be relegated. The four-year numbers would not unduly penalize a team for one poor season.
By my count, 80 of the 119 teams in 1A would be in BCS leagues.
The BCS bowls would remain largely as they are. Non-BCS bowls would bid for their spots in the pecking order, by way of payouts. The non-BCS bowls would pick in order of payout preference. Each BCS league would have its “traditional champion” tie-in (ie. Sugar -> SEC, Rose -> Pac-10/Big 10), and the non-BCS leagues would get their championship tie-in with a non-BCS bowl (WAC -> Holiday, CUSA -> Liberty).
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:22 am
238
Duke of C-U says:
D-Nice,
What are you talking about re game wasn’t as close as the score in Mizzou v. Illini? Maybe I read your post wrong. If McGee didn’t fumble in the end zone, there’s a 14 point swing. Despite that, we still had a shot in the last minute…
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:37 am
239
Futbawl Fan says:
AZDuck – you smart man…. me BCS loving man, not so smart… me hit you over head with rock so I not have to listen to your smart-man ideas
.
.
..
…wait for it……
PLAYOFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:43 am
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PW says:
234
I don’t like all these mandates. I like to think of each conference as a “laboratory of football.” We don’t need some strong central government telling us how to run our conferences.
And how, exactly, is the BCS flawed in its ability to select a champion? Go ahead, replace it with an 8-team playoff. Certainly the #9 team won’t be screaming about how it deserved to be in the mix. Sure, a playoff allows for the championship to be settled on the field, but how do you decide who gets to be in the playoff? Every team can’t play every other team.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:53 am
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Adam says:
AZDuck: Now THAT’s a bold idea!
If I were in charge of the NCAA, I would definitely issue an ultimatum to the D-1A schools. Option A would the elimination of the BCS in favor of an eight-team playoff; Option B would be to revoke the inclusion of football in the conference charters: the big schools can play football, but the NCAA isn’t going to sanction it.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:54 am
242
PW says:
Right now, the top 8 in the BCS looks like this:
1. Ohio State 11-1
2. LSU 11-2
3. Virginia Tech 11-2
4. Oklahoma 11-2
5. Georgia 10-2
6. Missouri 11-2
7. USC 10-2
8. Kansas 11-1
“Let’s have a playoff!”
“But wait, Kansas, Missouri, and Georgia didn’t even win their own conference, they can’t be national champions!”
“USC lost to Stanford at home, they don’t deserve it!”
“Ohio State hasn’t played anybody out of conference!”
“What about West Virginia, they won the Big East but they’re on the outside looking in!”
“You gotta be kidding me! What does Hawaii have to do to get any respect around here?!”
“Half a hundred!”
See? Nothing changes.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:58 am
243
Jorgé the Bass Player says:
Am I the only one who wants to nail the Busted Tees girl?
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:13 am
244
Jesus Jelly-Beans Christ says:
Hey, everybody!!!! Let’s work on adding some figures to our salaries!!!! Fucking retards. How short-minded are you motherfucking trainables. Who gives a shit what your preconception of a team is? Did it matter last year? Even more pertinent for you brain-damaged assholes… does it matter this year? Any team can beat any God-Jelly-Beans-Damn team on any given night. Get your heads out of your motherfucking asses and realize: just as the stoic WVU got swarmed by the cockhobbled stache, any one of your holier than thou appointed God’s gift to football teams could take one directly to the shitter. Assholes.
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:16 am
245
stapler says:
I was always down with the snorg tees girl
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:29 am
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PW says:
Right now, the top 8 in the BCS looks like this:
1. Ohio State 11-1
2. LSU 11-2
3. Virginia Tech 11-2
4. Oklahoma 11-2
5. Georgia 10-2
6. Missouri 11-2
7. USC 10-2
8. Kansas 11-1
“Let’s have a playoff!”
“But wait, Kansas, Missouri, and Georgia didn’t even win their own conference, they can’t be national champions!”
“USC lost to Stanford at home, they don’t deserve it!”
“Ohio State hasn’t played anybody out of conference!”
“What about West Virginia, they won the Big East but they’re on the outside looking in!”
“You gotta be kidding me! What does Hawaii have to do to get any respect around here?!”
“Half a hundred!!”
See? Nothing changes.
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:43 am
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Innocent Bystander says:
AZDuck:
I’m a fan of the idea, but what’s wrong with just having all 119 teams relegated to conferences and working from there? That’d be twelve conferences; not necessarily as nice of a number as eight but still highly workable.
In related news: Other teams have accepted bids to bowl games that exist beyond the big five. More as events warrant.
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:20 am
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Ben says:
242
Lithium helps
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:22 am
249
Innocent Bystander says:
242,
How’s your son Tressel Hayes?
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:48 am
250
Signal to Noise says:
Georgia and Mizzou got completely, absolutely dicked. I would not put it past Hawaii to come out pissed and take it out on a UGA team that might be disappointed. I still think UGA wins, but not by much.
I’m imagining UGA-USC and Mizzou-Hawaii instead. I wish that one could have happened.
December 3rd, 2007 at 4:23 am