CHAMPIONSHIP WEEKEND; GUEST COLUMNIST, JACKSONVILLE
I’m just not sure who I am anymore. I used to be so sure. I reeked of paper mills and boat fuel, but dammit, I made shit happen in my own little shitkicking kind of shit way. Where else in America could you boat in seven tons of dank Jamaican kine bud and have it on I-95 and up to Atlanta in a matter of hours, huh? And played home court to Lynyrd Skynyrd? I was important, man, in my own little skeezy way, and without the coke money, shaved-pube danger of Miami.

But now…now I don’t even know who I am anymore. The paper’s gone, because WAAAAAAAAAAHHH the smell, the stench was too much for delicate sensibilities. The police actually care what goes on your boat now. The naval station is still there, but the locals get pissed when someone ruffles a few feathers by throwing someone through a bar window.
Pussies, all of you.
Now they want me to be something, with buildings, and landmarks, and Whole Foods and shit. But what the hell am I? They filled in the empty spaces with signs and chain restaurants and roads so that from space I probably look like a NASCAR machine idling at the start, all logos and glossy paint. They want me to host sporting events, which is kind of like asking a chihuahua to sell aluminum siding door-to-door for you. It just doesn’t work on so many levels, and in the end the dog really doesn’t care, anyway.
People want to go to a place, you see, and that’s never been on my resume, this whole place-ness thing. I’m fine just being a loose confederation of utilities and conveniences. Places get messy: they have communities, and annoying neighbors who depend on each other for things, and all of the things that make you want to take a chainsaw to that real place’s community at the end of the day. When you’re no place, there’s wake, drive, work, and pick up the kids before plugging yourself back in like a dead cellphone into the tv, the XBox, the computer.
Whatever. It’s not bad, and I’m not gonna pretend it is. When the romance of living turns into the perfunctory masturbation of daily life, call me. There’s always rooms available.
Here’s what I’ve got, though: I’ve got drawbridges, a coffee plant, and porno. Rent a car. Get a hotel. Fly in, buy something from a chain, and get drunk on a bucket-sized drink at a clean bar at The Landing, a fake place conjured up–again–because some asshole thinks we need “placeness.” Watch the game and leave quickly on our well-paved roads.

Don’t demand “culture,” you art-fucks, or nightlife that doesn’t involve puking a night’s worth of shots into a toilet while bad house music plays in the background. Don’t demand that we be interesting. The whole point of the state is to not pay taxes and avoid losing your house when you declare bankruptcy, and the whole point of this town is to not worry about being a town. It’s a county, a geographical space where people use gas, eat food, and shit into the proper receptacle. Dazzle is not this business we are in.
And don’t blame us for the ACC championship game not selling 20,000 tickets, because it wasn’t our idea to entertain your asses, anyway. We wouldn’t buy the tickets if we were you, both because Boston College versus Virginia Tech is selling the same sandwich twice, and because once you get here, there’s no here to enjoy. And no one could care less about this than me, so go ahead and go to Charlotte next year and see if I care. Nowhere couldn’t care less.









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Mr Pelican Pants says:
So Jacksonville, whens the Creed Reunion Tour?
November 30th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
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gerry dorsey says:
but you’ve still got winn dixie’s corporate offices.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
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Actionville is the place says:
Yikes!!!! buries my head in hand and cries because it’s true….at least we aren’t Tampa, and I will carry that false reassurance to the grave.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:51 pm
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DevilGrad says:
I now see why TFGFKATWLOCP is held there. Thanks.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:53 pm
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Techie says:
Why does Jacksonville sound like Anthony Bourdain whining that he can’t buy hookers and blow in Times Square anymore.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
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Hokie Andrew says:
Jacksonville as host to the ACC championship game makes very little geographic sense – unless you assume that Miami and FSU will be in the game each year. Which is clearly what everyone had on their mind when the plans were drawn up. JAX has the additional handicap of being the site of the Gator Bowl which is the most likely destination for the team that loses the ACCCG. Very few people want to make that trip twice in less than a month.
Supposedly the money works out better in Jacksonville; Charlotte’s money package is considerably lighter and yada yada yada.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
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LL says:
As a lifetime Jacksonville resident, I say well done, Orson!
November 30th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
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LL says:
Mr. Pelican Pants:
The horrible “band” Creed has no ties to Jacksonville. Those are Tallahassee and Orlando douches.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:00 pm
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Gatorwalsh says:
Speak the truth!
Creed may may just have well been from jville. In fact, you should adopt them.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
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Disgruntled Goat says:
You’ll always have Super Bowl XXXIX, Jax.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:05 pm
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Hokie Andrew says:
And in the interest of truthiness that’s 20,000 tickets remaining unsold. Virginia Tech’s 10,000 ticket obligation was sold out well in advance of the game and reportedly another 5,000 VT seats have been bought up through the box office. VT generally rolls 20,000 deep just about anywhere we go if there’s tickets available. My guesstimate for the total attendance is around 40K. We’ll see on Saturday.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
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Techie says:
Lynard Skynard was from Jacksonville, weren’t they?
November 30th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
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zzgator says:
Tampa tells #3 to suck it.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:10 pm
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Mr Pelican Pants says:
So whens the Skynard Reunion Tour?
November 30th, 2007 at 1:13 pm
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catlett says:
“I don’t think there’s any doubt that it doesn’t stay here,” Catlett said. “It’ll go to another city.”
Was he under the impression they would cancel it altogether?
November 30th, 2007 at 1:13 pm
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Mr Pelican Pants says:
Hey whens the Lex and Terry Comeback Tour?
November 30th, 2007 at 1:13 pm
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Eric says:
I think I saw Jacksonville hold a gun to its head while it watched Clemson blow the BC game and ruin its chance of even 90% capacity at the ACC Championship Game.
Seriously, whose idea was it to put the ACC Championship Game in the backyard of one of the more rabidly supported SEC Schools?
Charlotte works on so many more levels, because, like Atlanta is to the SEC, Charlotte is to the ACC.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
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Mr Pelican Pants says:
Hey Jacksonville, whens the Black Kids Reunion tour?
That is all, carry on…Freakville has actually come along way since ‘85…
November 30th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
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Mr Pelican Pants says:
Please tell us that picture of Jacksonville doesnt count as cheesecake….
November 30th, 2007 at 1:19 pm
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gerry dorsey says:
any chance we can get a recurring series of columns from various cities? doesn’t have to be weekly…just every so often. i’d like to hear what is on the mind of a lot of other cities. atlanta?? new orleans?? starkvegas??
November 30th, 2007 at 1:20 pm
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Hokie Andrew says:
Eric – Exactly.
The decision, in my humblest of opinions, was predicated on the assumption that Miami and FSU would be in the game. JAX owns the stadium and as such they offered very cheap facilities (some say Jacksonville actually guaranteed a payout to the ACC) in return for hosting the game. The difference would be made up from all the traffic through local businesses and what not. That doesn’t happen unless you’ve got big, well travelling fan bases. And most of the ACC, doesn’t. As a Columbia resident I’m crossing my fingers that Charlotte picks up the game in the future.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:21 pm
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WWJD says:
Good thing Virginia Tech and Boston College followed Miami to the ACC. Just think how irrelevant they would be if they didn’t have the company of that perennial juggernaut to lift them up.
The ACC makes Baby Jesus cry, from it’s officiating to its mediocrity. Fans in Jacksonville, hole that it is, know better; they see good SEC football every weekend. Why would they want to watch a stumbling, fading BC squad play an offensively inept VT team? Ugh. Or should I say, “ACK.”
November 30th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
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Allahver Fist says:
Fuck the ACC. The Gator Bowl Committee lost a million dollars last year hosting that shitfest of a game. Jax not good enough? Get the fuck out of our backyard.
Waffle House freaking rulz!
November 30th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
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PW says:
Fake!!
There’s no way a city could’ve typed this. It doesn’t even have fingers.
/youtube commenters
November 30th, 2007 at 1:25 pm
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George P. Burdell says:
Lets just be honest and call this what it is. Another opportunity to take hacks at the ACC. Very original. ‘Cause come last Saturday of October 2008 Jacksonville transforms from the only fat girl in the bar at 2 a.m. to Erin Andrews.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
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TattooedMess(iah) says:
I get the fortune of being at the game tomorrow. Of course, I don’t have to pay for the tickets, provide my own transportation, or pay for food or alcohol while I’m there so fuck it. On the other hand, I’m going with some BC fans, so I should probably start drinking now.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
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Ltrain says:
Dare I say we view Jacksonville the way the rest of the world views us (except for the smell part, frenchy)?
November 30th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
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Darkknight says:
Plus, JAX has that BS rule in which you can have alcohol OR titties in a strip club, but not both at the same time.
Gyp.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
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chris says:
That’s BS because when my tide lost to FSU earlier this year, we were stuck in traffic after the game, looked to our left and saw a titty bar in the parking lot of a strip mall, and it had the much needed titties and beer until I got kicked out for slapping one on the ass…the only one…but hey we lost to FSU i needed to let that agression out okay
November 30th, 2007 at 1:43 pm
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The 17th Goat says:
It only takes me two minutes whenever I fly back to NAS Jax to realize how much I can’t stand that city. Make that one minute.
Any place that is a vortex of UF, UGA, FSU…and Jaguars fans is hell on earth.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:48 pm
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Incredulous says:
#17 is right. A conference championship game should be held in the de facto “captial” of whatever region the conference encompasses. And it should not rotate. For the ACC, Charlotte is perfect. Just like Atlanta is perfect for the SEC.
As for #3, I am not a resident of either city, but does he really think Jacksonville even belongs in the SAME SENTENCE with Tampa? Tampa is light years ahead of Jax. Was he kidding? Oh, he was.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:48 pm
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gerry dorsey says:
pw
+100 sir.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:48 pm
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bitterhorn says:
So the difference between J-ville and Atlanta is….
November 30th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
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Edsall might be Lucifer says:
I love it! It’s not Jacksonville’s fault, it’s the ACC’s fault. They raided our conference and they got our conference in all its glory: Va. Tech and Boston College. The ACC cannot have enough failures to ever satisfy me and their teams cannot lose enough to make me smile.
But I do enjoy the yearly embarrasment the ACC title game, aka the Reason for the Raid, has become and I will cackle in delight at the empty seats.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:57 pm
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Techie says:
Every person you ask will tell you that Jim Swofford is a little girl.
Yes, the divisions were set up and the title game location was placed under the full expectation that 2 out of every 3 years, it would be FSU vs. Miami. The other 9 members of the conference took this as the slap in the face that it was, and hold similar beliefs about where Swofford can stuff his championship.
Take GT last year, despite the best efforts of our coaching staff, we still made it to the ACCCG. Proceeding to be embarrassed on National Television, we then had to trudge back down to the Gator Bowl 3 weeks later, again to be embarrassed on National Television.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
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Techie says:
Not forgetting that the week before, we were embarrassed on National Television by being unable to beat the weakest UGA team since the Ray Goff era.
And some people wonder why Chan was canned……..
November 30th, 2007 at 2:03 pm
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Year2-Dave says:
PW, your comment about YouTube voters was clearly photoshopped. I mean, the shadows don’t even line up, and it’s a completely unnatural color. For shame!
As for Jacksonville, I’d really like to know how much the city makes on the Florida – Georgia game. The stadium seats about 20,000 more than it would for any other possible sporting event (Super Bowl excluded), and the city constantly gets derided for never filling it up. All for sweet, sweet Florida – Georgia cash. It must be some haul.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:06 pm
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NDTom says:
@26
I’m calling bullshit, everyone knows BC fans don’t travel.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:17 pm
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Brian says:
No one can claim that Jacksonville is some great weather this time of year over Charlotte either, Went down last year and it was 60 and rain. Fucking nutsack. The town was the lamest, the landing was really lame, it was more contrived than underground Atlanta, and the whole experience was a bust. Id go with Charlotte for sure, because its central and drivable for most. It’s not like you can hit the beach the day before the game in Jax or something.
This is my Dream Idea:
My prime idea would be this — if you’re going to not have anyone show up, Host it at the citadel in Charleston – can hold 23,000 fans, probably more with some removable endzone seats. You get 12000 fans a piece (shit most of the revenue is from TV dont fool yourself) The place is outta control, Charleston is awesome, and everyone that gets to go would have a stupid fun time. I know people are gonna say “haha ur conference wouldn’t use a 1-AA stadium and all that bellyaching peer pressure shit, but truly, putting the game in charleston would rule, and you know it, plus no bad seats in the house!
November 30th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
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gerry dorsey says:
@ bitterhorn,
are you serious? have you been to either…much less both?? i don’t even have enough room to list the differences.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
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Scalz1 says:
Fernandina and Jax beaches are about a 15 minute ride from the stadium.
Having been to both places, Jax and Charlotte, I can unequivocally say that they are both shitholes, Jax being the less shitty. Charlotte seems to think that it’s a “proper southern city, with culture and all”, but it’s a huge redneck burg. Jax is, as well, but at least it doesn’t try to make itself something it’s not. Jax is southern town on a river, near a beach.
I have no dog in this fight, just sayin ..
November 30th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
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Rival says:
Jacksonville is nasty. Or at least the downtown part near the stadium.
About 5 years ago we went to the GA-FL game and someone in our group booked a “great deal!” at a “hotel” within walking distance of Alltel. Bad idea.
The Parkview Inn. Most rundown hotel I’ve ever seen.
- Hotel next to “park” complete with local crack addicts? Check
- Naked guy laying in one of the booked rooms upon check-in? Check
- Shopping cart in the “pool”? Check
- Vagrant bathing in the pool the next morning? Check
- Hotel staff refusing to give towel to patrons? Check
- Drunk patrons throwing objects through supply room window to get to towels? Double check?
I ended up leaving with our charter bus driver to find other accomodations.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
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bitterhorn says:
#40
I’m just kidding, love Atlanta, I’d move there in a heartbeat.
Now Jacksonville, bleehhhhh…
November 30th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
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willet says:
We built the Landing to corral 20-30 year old tools that do not know any better. Keeps them out of the real restaurants and bars.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
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Nupe in VA says:
I don’t care where they play the game as long as the city has a Chick-fil-a.
November 30th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
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Coop says:
Jax is NOT an ACC city. Maybe it is a Gator Bowl city, but certainly not an ACC city.
It is time to return to Charlotte. You never really left, and I know you were trying to appease FSU and Miami, but they suck so, come on home.
Relax, even if GT and Wake end up playing in Charlotte, B of A and Wachovia will pick up the tab in a glorious write off.
So, yes, come on home.
November 30th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
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Scotch and Guns says:
Going to Jacksonville in December/January is like going to the Clairmont lounge to see naked chicks. You are going somewhere, but you don’t get anything out of it but a hangover and a sense of relief when you leave.
November 30th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
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Mergz says:
Jacksonville is where UGA goes to die.
Well, most years at least…
November 30th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
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Roaminggator says:
Hey My Hometown! How Ya doin? Try building less roads and save some trees damn it…you only have the whole county as your city limit.
November 30th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
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Hokie Andrew says:
Edsall,
The overall financial package for expansion was driven by TV dollars, and despite the ACCCG being a wash the money situation for Virginia Tech is much much much better than in the Big East. VT in particular was shit upon for most of it’s tenure in the Big East. Tech only reached full profit sharing status in the last few years of its BE membership. Trangheese consistently failed to stand up for the football side of the conference, witness the Notre Dame take all arrangement with the BE bowls. Plus travel budgets are much better which was apparently a sore point for Miami (I think that last bit is horse shit BTW but that’s what Shalaallala said). In VT’s first year in the ACC the overall take from conference profit sharing was *twice* what we received in the Big East. And despite some schools resistance to VT joining *cough NORTH CAROLINA BLUE BLOODS cough* they’ve all be quite happy to have their otherwise howling Mongolian steppes of stadiums filled to the brim every other year.
November 30th, 2007 at 3:28 pm