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TUBERVILLE TO ARKANSAS

`I'm not looking to go anywhere.''

--Tommy Tuberville on Tiger Talk this past Thursday.

Multiple sources tell KNWA that Tommy Tuberville willl be Arkansas' next head football coach.

--Matt Turner, NWA.com, Thursday.

Tommy Tuberville may have just completed the long-delayed departure he began back in 2003 when he survived Bobby Lawder's attempt to depose him and bring in Bobby Petrino behind his back: Arkansas media types are reporting that Tuberville has agreed to be the next head coach at Arkansas, a story we're not really sure we believe at this point.

Thanks to Kevin for encoding the video for the public football interest. He's cool like that.

The early signs came with the story that Tuberville was not present at a scheduled meeting with Auburn AD Jay Jacobs earlier this week; then the additive snowballing of rumors and continued radio silence on the part of both Tuberville and Auburn officialdom made things even more suspicious for the paranoid types who, being broken clocks twice a day, really thought this might happen.

The quick, hastily scanned impact of this IF TRUE ALL SHAKY RUMOR AT THIS POINT HOLD OFF ON FACTINESS:

--Tuberville inherits a roster full of manageable talent to work with at Arkansas. Being a CEO kind of guy, the staff Tuberville assembles will matter immensely, and with his current DC Will Muschamp being considered for head jobs, he's gonna need a bright young defensive mind at the least if offensive coordinator Al Borges follows him.

--Auburn, like the guy who never deletes a single lady's phone number from his cell phone, will likely booty call the coach they got caught engaging in a backdoor case of coitus interruptus with in 2003: Bobby Petrino. Alabama may soon have two extremely overpaid coaches, especially given the increasingly hopeless situation at qb in Atlanta. Hopeless, in case you didn't know, is spelled H-A-R-R-I-N-G-T-O-N. Or L-E-F-T-W-I-C-H. Or you could just say "It's a Somalia, man," and watch everyone nod knowingly. The effect is the same all around.

--If Petrino is as unbudgeable (and with the demonstrated tolerance of being mediocre as a college coach after being a superb college HC being a two years, see Spurrier and Saban) as we suspect he might be, then Auburn's stuck in the nasty position of hunting retreads in a job market with Michigan and Nebraska still prowling. That's an ugly proposition, though Auburn could certainly outbid almost any other program around. The only issue is how many bananas are left on the shelf when they get around to actually shopping for replacement.

--We'll say it again: LEACH. LEACH. LEACH. Just because we want him in the SEC so, sooooooooo bad. Hire Orgeron as your line coach and head of recruiting and you'll hear us purring for miles.

--Paul was right, Paul was right, Paul was right. Never underestimate the power of Wal-Mart. The Chinese People's Liberation Army bought Tuberville through the wallet of the Walton family if Tuberville did come through, and Paul Westerdawg was righter than Ron Paul on this.

--In state, this gives Nick Saban a bit of breathing room in terms of competitive advantage. He'll have a running head start on recruiting that will be impossible to make up this year, especially with Tuberville raiding south the instant he hits the door in Fayetteville.

--More later, because this is the SEC, where we've figured out what to do with the other eight months of the year not involving actual football games: a little exercise we like to call Scandalicise! Feel the burn, Auburn fans!

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If this falls apart, and I refuse to believe in it until I see Tommy at a presser in Fayetteville, then I think you’ll be getting your wish granted and the Dread Pirate Leach will land in Fayetteville – I think Jeff Long is rather fond of him and he’s pretty high on the list of candidates

by Jerkwheat on Nov 29, 2007 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve heard it wasn’t Walton family money, but Jerry Jones money that is being used to pay the cost of buying out Tuberville’s contract.

by baconboy on Nov 29, 2007 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, and it rumors are true – and it’s rumors we are dealing with here – it’s not Wal Mart’s money doing this – it’s Jerry Jones.

by Jerkwheat on Nov 29, 2007 11:36 PM EST reply actions  

…whoever’s money it is—- and there are a lot of candidates (Wal-Mart money, Tyson’s money, JJ’s money, the interest from the Fire Nutt Banner Fund), it is going to be mind-boggling.

3.5 million in Nutt buyout; check. 6 million Tubbs buyout; check. 3.5 million for Tubbs per year; also check.

 That’s a 12.5 million dollar statement that ‘8-4 is a firing offense at Arkansas.’

Who said Bammers are the only people with the will to bust a budget?

Maybe now they’ll yank those games out of Little Rock, play them all on campus, and finish enclosing RRS to make it 90,000. God knows there is enough money left over, even with that ridiculous price tag.

by Will on Nov 29, 2007 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

….er…13 million. Darn that Sun Belt undergrad education.

by Will on Nov 29, 2007 11:43 PM EST reply actions  

Pat Dye for interim coach!

Just kidding. I think this is all fake, and Tubby will be back in Auburn with his new $3 million+ smile.

by TideDruid on Nov 29, 2007 11:43 PM EST reply actions  

Let’s see, tonight, CTT has denied it, Sexton has denied it, Jacobs has denied it, and Arkansas’ AD has denied it.

The multiple sources – Tigerdroppings.com, Tider Insider, and a handful of Hog boards.

by NewAZTiger on Nov 29, 2007 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

I’m gonna shit in my pants.

by Anal Roberts on Nov 29, 2007 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

Tubs’ Denial

Quote from Arkansas AD ""I won’t narrow it that far, but I will say that many of the reports about an SEC West coach are extremely premature and actually aren’t even premature," Long said. “They’re fantasy.”"

Jay Jacobs, AU’s AD denies it.

ESPN is reporting that CTT and Sexton denied it and both stated he would be at AU next year.

Welcome to 2007’s College Football Version of War of the Worlds.

by NewAZTiger on Nov 29, 2007 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

Tommy said the only way he was living Auburn was in a pine box…..or by a jet to sign the new contract with Arkansas.

by bamafanintigerland on Nov 29, 2007 11:52 PM EST reply actions  

and apparently Auburn’s 6 victory over my team made sure I cannot spell…..leaving not living.

by bamafanintigerland on Nov 29, 2007 11:53 PM EST reply actions  

…..for the money they’re paying him, he could line that box in silk, $1,000 bills, and co-ed titty. I’m just saying it’d be a hell of a comfortable box :)

by Will on Nov 30, 2007 12:01 AM EST reply actions  

I think Leach could have a similar effect on the SEC as Spurrier did in the early-mid 90s, when the SEC teams started to open their offenses to catch up. Or then again, he could be Hal Mumme Part II.

by fotodog on Nov 30, 2007 12:07 AM EST reply actions  

fotodog – Leach was in the SEC, with Hal Mumme.

by NewAZTiger on Nov 30, 2007 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

…on a hillarious note— if this falls through, Jeff Long may be fired before he officially gets to start his new job on Jan 1.

by Will on Nov 30, 2007 12:15 AM EST reply actions  

Nick Saban, Houston Nutt and now Tommy Tuberville? Why does the SEC have the coach-whores?

by John on Nov 30, 2007 12:22 AM EST reply actions  

… John, it’s the SEC. If you can’t beat ’em, you buy ’em :)

by Will on Nov 30, 2007 12:24 AM EST reply actions  

Well I hate to see him go before we can pay his ass back. If we get Ar-Kansas on the ropes, and he is the coach, run up the score. Auburn is a duck on the pond now……The SEC West will only have Saban and Croom left over….Miles—-Dead,will be at Michigan…..Tubby——Dead, will be at Ar-Kansas, specifically to win a MNC——Oregeron—-Dead——Houston Nutt——Dead, but in Orgerons office——Neidlemeyer—-Dead
Hell the only one with any Seniority in the SEC West Coaches Union is the Croomster…I’ll take my chances this year…..See ya Tubs, the SEC West is One BIG SWINGERS CONVENTION, I’LL COACH UR TEAM IF YOU’LL COACH MINE>>>>

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 30, 2007 12:28 AM EST reply actions  

Hell if this is true, expect Alabama fans to be rollin Toomer Corner soon…..How is Tubbs gonna get outta town now? I hope he had PODS on standby….

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 30, 2007 12:30 AM EST reply actions  

Whores? Not so much…Swingers,well lets see…

Saban-LSU swapped with Bama with a Miami affair inbetween

Nutt—-Arkansas, now sleeping with Colonel Reb

Tubberville—-Auburns Mr. Mediocre is now doin a Hogg in Nutts old bed…

Orgeron—-I dont think he knows he fired yet……

Miles—-Leavin LSU for the whore Ann Arbor, screwed LSU outta MNC while eyefucking that whore….

Croom—Bama asst Coach doin a Bulldog…

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 30, 2007 12:37 AM EST reply actions  

Come on, Orson, I know you’ve seen Blood Diamond. The correct quote re: Petrino would be…

TIA. This Is Atlanta. Knowing nods to follow.

by spartymike on Nov 30, 2007 12:44 AM EST reply actions  

I hate to detract from the Tuberville rumors, but TigerDroppings is reporting, surprising no one, Les Miles has accepted the Meeeechigan job. Apparently, he told the players after practice today.

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=6245874

by This Is Your Captain Speaking on Nov 30, 2007 1:19 AM EST reply actions  

Is the Arkansas job more prestigious than the Auburn coaching job?

Why would anyone do that, besides more dead presidents?

Isn’t that like leaving Elizabeth Taylor for Totie Fields?

by Harvey Wireman on Nov 30, 2007 1:38 AM EST reply actions  

The Michigan job is more prestigious than LSU’s, no problem there.

by Harvey Wireman on Nov 30, 2007 1:40 AM EST reply actions  

Do you Michigan fans think Miles is a good hire? Obviously he’s high profile and has had success, but what about his actual coaching abilities.

It’ss a great story, since he’s a “Michigan Man,” but could there be a downside?

by D-nice on Nov 30, 2007 3:34 AM EST reply actions  

or the other way around?

by 6 in a Row on Nov 30, 2007 7:34 AM EST reply actions  

Leave Auburn, Alabama for Arkansas? Tubby’s too smart for that, Walton money or not. The majority of the idiots involved in the 2003 fiasco are gone, he’s won 6 in a row over Bama, he just needs to make Auburn throw down some more money and then stick around until his ears get too big to fit a headset on.

by howboutdemgators on Nov 30, 2007 7:34 AM EST reply actions  

I think [read: HOPE] Tubby’s just playing hard-ball.
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/mobileregister/index.ssf?/base/sports/1196417971307080.xml&coll=3&thispage=1

I know he hates Lowder, but who doesn’t- that’s not reason enough to leave as long as they are kissing your ass while you keep beating Alabama (which we all know is objective #1 in the state) and beat most of your other opponents.
I also don’t believe any of the propeganda that he has been planning this coup since Arkansas offered him a job long ago and when Lowder tried to ass-rape him- that just doesn’t make sense.
This a great tactic to play hardball at a school that has more tradition and long-term potential and money than Arkansas does, and he’s just trying to have his demands met- which, as you can read anywhere, are NOT for more money, but for better facilities, stronger contracts for his staff, and basically the control that a coach should be afforded. If he wanted to stick it to Lowder and the Athletic Department, he would do exactly this- strong-arm them into giving him exactly what they tried to take away during Petrino-gate: respect.

But I have been wrong before…

by Excuse me Stewardess, but I speak jive on Nov 30, 2007 7:47 AM EST reply actions  

  1. - when so many “deny” it that typically means it will happen. See Tubbs 10 years ago at Ole Miss, Saban at Miami, the OSU basketball coach, etc….
  1. & 29 – I agree. While I’m no fan of the plains, I can’t imagine Arky has more to offer than auburn. Tubbs simply selling his soul at this point?

by Bama93 on Nov 30, 2007 8:11 AM EST reply actions  

“and with the demonstrated tolerance of being mediocre as a college coach after being a superb college HC being a two years, see Spurrier and Saban”

I think I understand what you are saying – maybe?

On a side note – it appears Mr.P-Pants is just giddy this a.m.

by Crabs on Nov 30, 2007 8:24 AM EST reply actions  

all things aside, though, I wouldn’t mind seeing what “Boom motherfucker” Muschamp could do at the helm of a team… maybe if Tubbs leaves and he stays he could take a shot and it could be a blessing in disguise for the Tigers.

by Excuse me Stewardess, but I speak jive on Nov 30, 2007 8:26 AM EST reply actions  

#27, I’d say yes.

by NewAZTiger on Nov 30, 2007 8:26 AM EST reply actions  

Is Auburn really that much better a job? I mean Arkansas has a pretty good tradition, the overall winning percentages of the two schools are Auburn .629 and Arkansas .592. They both won national titles a long time ago. Certainly Auburn has had more success of late, but when you have Danny Ford and Houston Nutt as your coaches there’s a pretty firm ceiling on your success (about 6 wins for one and 9 for the other). I don’t really get the move if it happens, because he’s already established his program at Auburn. But all things being equal I don’t see Auburn as an obviously superior job.

by Biggus Rickus on Nov 30, 2007 8:35 AM EST reply actions  

Rickus-
as far as coaching gigs go, I think any decent coach and any school with a football program with a budget to pay the coaching staff well has it pretty good. Hell, you don’t even need that much tradition (see: the University of South Florida). I think when people talk about one school being better than another, I would think that it is more of a whole picture thing than jsut a “where would I rather coach” thing.
And I think you have it backwards with the “Auburn has had more success of late” comment, since I believe if you take a poll, most people asked would say that AU has a much deeper history in College Football than Arkansas, be it in past players or memorable games or history of winning or whatever, whereas Arkansas- while always being a contender in the SEC, has never really gained that national attention until recently with McFadden and a few years of great play.

But you make a valid point- a coaching gig is a coaching gig, as long as you get paid and you can win. So what does that mean for Big Poppa Charlie Weiss? He’s getting paid but can’t win… I guess that’s a whole nother thread-jack altogether.

by Excuse me Stewardess, but I speak jive on Nov 30, 2007 8:46 AM EST reply actions  

I heard TT was in contract negotiations with Auburn. Shit, if he’s not on the hot seat, he’s looking at other gigs.

ESPN First Take, you’re a bunch of bastards!

by Big Head on Nov 30, 2007 8:56 AM EST reply actions  

9

You think “I’m not looking to go anywhere” is a denial?

Trust us — we’ve been there, many, many times — that ain’t a denial.

by RIP Logan Young on Nov 30, 2007 8:56 AM EST reply actions  

This smells a LOT like the Rich Rod to Bama rumors last year. Tubs is holding Jacobs hostage for facilities/assistant pay and using Arkansas as the gun. A $6MM “iron clad” buyout is significant kevlar though. We’ll all just have to wait and see.

  1. - I’m sure you see Houndstooth U as a better job than both, which at this point is laughable considering how many rejections they got last year and how much they ultimately had to fork over in a one sided contract.

by TIGERinATL on Nov 30, 2007 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

38

Houndstooth U pulled a sitting NFL coach, who signed with Alabama for a million bucks a year less than he was making in Miami.

by RIP Logan Young on Nov 30, 2007 8:59 AM EST reply actions  

  1. - Arkansas has some MNCs from before facemasks were standard equipment. To UAT fans, those are all that count toward a programs tradition cache.

by TIGERinATL on Nov 30, 2007 9:01 AM EST reply actions  

I’m amazed no one has made any “coaching incest” jokes about the SEC, since the conference seems determined to keep everyone in the family – Spurrier, Saban, Nutt, Tuberville once, perhaps Tuberville again, hopefully Orgeron, etc.

by Year2-Dave on Nov 30, 2007 10:28 AM EST reply actions  

I’ll believe the Tubs thing when I see it.

But the thought of SEC media day with Spurrier and Leach makes me giddy. Someone please bring the Pirate to the conference.

by The Last Dragon on Nov 30, 2007 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

Tiger,

Rickus is a bulldog you dumb fuck.

by Tater Salad on Nov 30, 2007 10:33 AM EST reply actions  

39
and that’s still a couple million more than he’s worth

by Excuse me Stewardess, but I speak jive on Nov 30, 2007 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

i too have been pining for a leach/orgeron combo, though before reading about this tubby fiasco last night, i figured the best chance would be UCLA

although it occurred to me last night that if i was really selfish, i’d want someone to hire Venables away from OU so Stoops could replace him with Orgeron

by okiedomer on Nov 30, 2007 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

40

How many MNC’s do y’all have in the facemask era? Zero?

by RIP Logan Young on Nov 30, 2007 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

Tater,

I apologize for not memorizing every commentors allegiance. I must be such an ass hole.

by TIGERinATL on Nov 30, 2007 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

Upon hearing that the news had been leaked, Tubberville whimsically paced back and forth, head slightly down, with a wry, subtle smirk on his face.

Then, when his wife called him to dinner, Tubberville quietly paced to the dining room, head slightly down, with a slight smile on his face.

Afterwards, Tubberville spent some time on the toilet, head cocked slightly, with an absurdist-yet-reflective smile on his face.

The man rivals Paris Hilton for the person who most employs his or her one and only look.

by Tim on Nov 30, 2007 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

To which school’s football team should we pin allegiance for someone with a name like “Tater Salad?”

by That Pederast Hanrahan on Nov 30, 2007 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

Man, aren’t we all in a fine mood this morning?

by Techie on Nov 30, 2007 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

For those of you who think Saban is overpaid…

The Tuberville rumors, if true, would mean the Hogs are going to be paying a coach without a single MNC and only one SEC title 3.5 million after forking over a buyout of 6 Million or something close to it…

Saban: 2 SEC titles and 1 MNC in 6 years in the SEC for $4 million
Tubs: 1 SEC title and 0 MNC in 13 years in the SEC for $3.5 miilion

That alone should convince anyone with a brain that Tubs is staying at Auburn…

by Sabanite on Nov 30, 2007 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

“I’m not going anywhere,” said Saban as he got on the private jet and left Miami.

Nick went back to college ball cause he was going nowhere at the pro coaching level. Look at this year’s Dolphins; el sucko grande! He fled north for a reason.

by SunDawg on Nov 30, 2007 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

At least if he stays on the Plains, none of our fans is bat-shit crazy enough to use the Freedom of Information Act to get copies of all of his cell phone records and text messages! I don’t recall we ever had to deal with a player’s mother getting the AD to come down on our coach for not playing her whiny son and his buddies so that the #2 Heisman vote-getter could get more playing time………..

Arkansas can out-crazy fans bout Auburn and Alabama – and that’s saying something!

by ATL AU Tiger on Nov 30, 2007 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

Tiger,

Just fucking with you. At first glance, I assumed that you assumed it was a Bama fan because you didn’t think anyone else could think that AU is not much better than Arky. I don’t necessarily agree with that, and you know about ASSUME.

Not to mention, Rickus has made clear his disdain for Saban and his dislike for Alabama many times.

@50:

Delta State. My brethren, kind of.

by Tater Salad on Nov 30, 2007 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

52-
Anyone named Sabanite is no longer allowed to comment on things related to Saban.
I love my school and coach, but you don’t see me on here named Tubervillian or anything gay like that.
For a program to worship a coach so much as you guys did before he even won a game just proves the idiocy that surrounds that school and program and fanbase. And don’t act like it isn’t true- people naming their kids Saban and paintings for sale at the Galleria kiosks with Saban floating in the clouds and shit. Give me a fucking break.

by 6 in a row on Nov 30, 2007 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

I’m not sure the move from Auburn to Arkansas is as dramatically far down as it’s being made out to be. I’m an Arky, so I’m admittedly biased, but we have some of the best facilities in the nation, a nice stadium and Fayetteville and the surrounding area is pleasent enough — what are Auburn’s facilities like? I honestly don’t know. The tigers do have a couple undefeated seasons recently in the last 14 years, but stil haven’t won an SEC championship game or a full MNC.

by Nuttless on Nov 30, 2007 12:21 PM EST reply actions  

Dude, this SEC West thing is just like the show
“PINKS”…where if you beat the team, you get to choose if you want to coach it or not…….

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 30, 2007 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

#56
Saban spit tobacco on my shoe..I asked him to spit on the other so I could have a matching pair…..I have that pair of shoes framed and charge admission to view them in the Alabama Wing at my house, and I will not wash them til he leaves….The next Daniel Moore painting,Unauthorized and not recognized by the University, is of Elroy the racist dog, chomping down on Jerraud Powers…..with Tubberville flying off into the clouds on a Ar-Kansas jet…..

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 30, 2007 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

#56: On the other hand, www.churchofsaban.com is hilarious and always will be.

by Tim on Nov 30, 2007 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

touche`.

by Excuse me Stewardess, but I speak jive on Nov 30, 2007 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

Tuberville leaving doesn’t make rational sense, but something is rotten in Denmark.

Auburn > Arkansas

If he goes to Arkansas a MNC is not in sight, if he stays at Auburn you can see atleast a possibility in the next 3 years.

by Thor on Nov 30, 2007 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

56

The point of the post was to show the craziness of the Tubs to Arkansas rumors. Tubs will stay on the plains with his 3+ million a year, 6 win streak over Bama and fanbase that is overjoyed with an 8-4 record.

I fully agree that Bama fans are crazy. But the craziness is based on the hope that Saban can take Bama back to the top of the SEC. Because if he can’t do it, no one can.

And sorry I couldn’t come up with a witty name like 6 in a row. Was it tough to choose that over “another year without a championship” or “Irrelevant even when undefeated”?

by Sabanite on Nov 30, 2007 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

  1. - Auburn did win the the SEC Championship game in 2004 -

by ATL AU Tiger on Nov 30, 2007 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

see, those are actually kinda funny names…

by 6 in a row on Nov 30, 2007 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

or you could try “Ignurant Rednex” or “Bring Back the Bear!”

see, it works both ways.

by 6 in a row on Nov 30, 2007 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

  1. - Damn it, I’m a fucking idiot. Thanks a lot.

by Nuttless on Nov 30, 2007 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

54 – totally agree. Razorback crazy eclipses Bama/Auburn crazy any day.

56 – I find it hard to believe no one was ever named after any Auburn greats. I recall growing up in Montgomery going to school with a lot of Bo’s. My neighbors across the street named their dog Bo, and there were tons of kids named Shug and/or Jordan (boys and girls). Terry was popular for a couple of years and of course there are the lot of Sullivan’s throughout the state.

I’m sure we could find a Daniel Moore pic of Dye floating in the clouds while cash was raining down on the student dorms.

by Bama93 on Nov 30, 2007 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

To the poster that said Auburn has more money than Arkansas:

You’ve lost your fucking mind. IIRC, Arkansas has the 2nd biggest endowment, behind good ole ND, due to Tyson and the Walton Family.

Auburn can’t even hope to compete with that kind of money.

by Steve on Nov 30, 2007 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

they can’t yank the games out of Little Rock. It is a state law ( really- not joke)

by Lendale Terry on Nov 30, 2007 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

Kenny Hatfield or David Cutcliffe will be next head coach at Arkansas….we ain’t buying out nothing!!!!

by Lendale Terry on Nov 30, 2007 6:45 PM EST reply actions  

Lendale Terry: No, it’s not. This is a longstanding point of contention in the Razorback fanbase, as there have been several attempts to remove all the games from the dump that is War Memorial Stadium. It is not mandated by law, but is currently a term of contract with the stadium authority.

The sooner Arkansas gets out of playing in LR, the better.

by Will on Dec 1, 2007 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

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