DODGING A BULLET NAMED DENNIS
Yahoo’s Jason King has a nice, long-form story on the rise of downtrodden Kansas football program to its newfound goodness, replete with details like Mangino and assistants personally cleaning years of grubby fingerprints off the walls before recruiting visits and such. It also lets in a hint that Mangino is not very nice, and may in fact be downright mean, something we find shocking–shocking, Nigel!–in a successful head coach.
We imagine this all stems from a deep, unending unhappiness in the hardwiring of Mangino’s system. But don’t trust us–the film doesn’t lie.
But past the puffy, up-from-the-bootstraps vibe and hints of unpleasantness, there’s also a well reported flash of a frightening alternate reality and a former AD doing what ADs rarely do: speaking publicly and candidly not only about the hiring process, but about the candidates’ own behavior during the process. Kansas could have been Texas A&M ‘07 had it not been for Dennis Franchione practically oozing sleazegrease in an exchange with former Kansas AD Al Bohl.
One minute Franchione seemed ready to accept the job, the next he’d changed his mind. The end came when Franchione told Bohl he needed a little more time because he wanted to see if he was going to be a candidate for the Notre Dame job, which came open when Bob Davie was fired on Dec. 2. That same day, Bohl rescinded his offer to Franchione and hired Mangino.
Franchione had, at that point, hadn’t even finished one season with Alabama and was already throwing it around to both Notre Dame and Kansas. Kansas search committee member Ray Evans puts it better than we ever could, Hedley Lamarr comparisons be damned:
Six years later it looks like we may have dodged a bullet.
A bullet named Dennis, who could be coaching in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Dallas, Texas, or in the Canadian Football League in a few weeks, for all we know.
Bonus weirdness: The strangest post-game interview we’ve ever seen must be included with this post. The YouTube commenters seem to think Fran is “emotional” there. That is not the word we were thinking of when watching it.









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hunglikehussain says:
tOSU
You sir, are an anti-sabenite!
November 27th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
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SpookyJuice says:
I really don’t get how we are douchebags. Maybe It’s because I’m in it. I mean, when we started shit talking after the Arky win and we were about to face GA and everyone (but me seemingly) was sure we were gonna win….i guess it was a little douchey, but a lot of fans pull shit like that. So tell me (Auburn fans, you don’t count because….well…..fuck you, that’s why! HATE HATE HATE) outside of the Saban shit from LSU and stuff like that, are we just uber douchey. If so, tell me one decision that the program has made that you would’ve disagreed with if it was your team.
November 27th, 2007 at 3:56 pm
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TIGERinATL says:
Damn Coop,
Jealous of the Swindles blogging success I see.
November 27th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
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SpookyJuice says:
Wasn’t necessarily kissing her ass, just pointing out that it’s probably easier to piss off a bunch of drunk football junkies fueled on testosterone and cheetos than it is TCOAN, who seems composed most of the time. To have her question your doucheyness is a coup of sorts if that’s something you’re going for, which it seems like he is.
November 27th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
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TIGERinATL says:
Spooky,
I know you said I don’t count. But hiring Mike Shula is one decision that comes to mind. Paying any coach such an excessive premium as you are Saban is right there too.
But the most douchey part of the whole thing is the undying dilusion that Alabama is still a football power and Auburn is the little brother.
With much love,
TIA
November 27th, 2007 at 4:11 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:
SpookyJuice,
As someone who doesn’t hate Bama more or less than most other SEC schools, there’s an air of superiority among Bama fans that is no longer deserved. There was a joke that Florida fans were like Bama fans without the justification. Well, the roles have been reversed over the past 20 years.
November 27th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
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The Conscience of a Nation says:
Coop-
You really need to stop kissing my ass already.
Heh. I love curmudgeons.
November 27th, 2007 at 4:25 pm
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Coop says:
I just remain pissed at the two of you for revealing to me that Jeeves from Bertie & Jeeves swings the other way.
All this time I just thought he was merely British….
Uncool.
November 27th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
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oc phil says:
As a graduate of tOSU (in the same way that Orson is a GIT grad) I don’t have a dog in the Auburn/Alabama fight and I’d give the edge in doucheness to the Auburn fans myself.
TAFKATOSUB has stated before that he spent some time in Alabama and had bad experiences down there. His fixation with Saban goes back to the year that Saban’s Michigan State team upset the otherwise unbeaten Buckeyes and cost them the MNC. So we have a convergence of personal issues at work with maybe a little OCD or Arspargers syndrome thrown in.
Now is time for him to take the next step with his screen name and drop tOSU out of it totally. I know the other Buckeye fans around here would REALLY appreciate it if he conducted his crusade without dragging the university into it daily.
November 27th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
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hunglikehussain says:
Spooky,
I am a UGA grad (now out of the closet) and I don’t remember Coach Richt being subjected to this much vitriol when he took over. I admired seeing 90,000+ for a practice game. I think a lot of it strted with his style of coaching and being hailed as a savior before he really did anything. That said, I am glad we are in the east and don’t play you every year.
peace
November 27th, 2007 at 4:44 pm
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RIP Logan Young says:
55
Smoke in tunnel + “click-clack” + “The Jungle” = DOUCHE
November 27th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
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Ltrain says:
Random Dude who in one breath told me Meyer was in way over his head in the SEC, but that Shula would be great because what recruits wouldn’t want to play for a Shula? = DOUCHE.
Random Dude who told me Meyer was a big asshole, but then pulls for a team that hired Saban = DOUCHE.
Random Dude that tries to convince Florida fans Saban is the GREATEST EVAR after we watched Spurrier treat him like a rented mule? DOUCHE.
Bear Bryant, Dou….HA. Just kidding.
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November 27th, 2007 at 6:55 pm
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RIP Logan Young says:
62
Tim Tebow = DOUCHE
But a freaky-good DOUCHE
November 27th, 2007 at 7:00 pm
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Ltrain says:
Fair enough. FGD ™.
November 27th, 2007 at 7:07 pm
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Jeff from LA says:
62, I almost laughed my head off at that comment, but mainly because that last line was this close to sparking a riot in here.
November 27th, 2007 at 7:42 pm
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TIGERinATL says:
Perhaps “douche” is a little off when describing bama fans. I think “white trash” sums it up better. Everyone has seen the video of the throng of winners* that met Sabear at the airport as well as the tattooed guy.
* in the white trashiest sense only
November 27th, 2007 at 9:46 pm
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bhors says:
#59,
Agreed, I am an OSU alum, and I think TAFKA more has a bone with Saban, whether it be if he is at LSU, Bama, or Eastern Carolina State. Saban fucked up the OSU season when they were #1, and he believes Saban isn’t that great of a coach. Thats just what I’ve observed from my 2+ years on here.
November 28th, 2007 at 12:02 am
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UgasTexan says:
Why do I dislike Bama? Well, to be honest, I never really did dislike Bama until this year. I went to the GA-AL game in ‘02, and it was fabulous. Hot as hell, but awesome.
Only this year have I come to wish Bama ill. Two reasons: Saban and the corresponding (and ill-deserved) hype. Having one BamaFan talk shit to me (weeks after Georgia’s win and with my conscious avoiding of the subject) that Bama will win a national championship before Georgia. “Guaranteed.”
Now that, my friends, is completely absurd (although it could happen).
November 28th, 2007 at 9:32 am
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SpookyJuice says:
Ok, I don’t know if anyone is still even reading comments on this thread anymore but….
Dude who is a Florida fan who says some random bama fan is a douche: maybe, but I personally have no quarrel with UF except when we play them. Hell, I even like Meyer. I think he shows a lot of (dreaded word) class and he and his players handled the Prothro situation as good as i’ve ever seen when he went down. Spurrier used to piss me off, mostly based on recruiting ploys he used to use, but like most of the SEC fans, he’s grown on me.
The Shula-Saban thing. The Shula hire was about as good as we could get at that point with a shit storm surrounding us. The whole thing wore thin on everyone though and the situation was bad enough that we HAD to overpay(the salary of 3.5 isnt that much worse than Stoops by the way. He makes something like 3 and Tubbs is probably going to move up to at least 2.3 or so, maybe more) for someone that would excite the fanbase and recruits. It was a desperation move, but honestly, we generate more revenue than most teams(not to say we are better, just generate more revenue)…if you got it, spend it. It was a smart business move in the sense that the excitement it produced moved merchandise at an all time high. I guarantee we made more money off the Saban hire than we spent. It was kinda necessary to pull a HUGE name and we did. Greeting him at the airport and the A-day game was just a show of excitement and relief at what we’d thought would be the end of inconsistency
As far as the feel of superiority….I promise I’m about as far from that as possible. Hell, i think we’re cursed. I do think we will be a great team again though in the way that the true powers don’t disappear. Notre Dame will never be a bad team year in and out. Michigan, USC, OSU, OU, etc will never be down for long.
The Alabama-Auburn thing….I can’t really explain it because there isnt another state that has 2 teams as powerful. But it doesnt matter what one side says to the other. It’s a rivalry….the most intense one in sports. Of course we are going to say “you can’t pull off the things we can and we’ll always be Alabama, blah blah blah” and you’ll say what you say, but it’s two great teams battling for one state. We owned it for a while, the NCAA helped you take it over for a while(sorry, had to do it) and soon we’ll battle again. See you at BDS.
November 28th, 2007 at 9:57 am
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SpookyJuice says:
Ugas, it’s just optimism taken to the extreme. You guys have a really legit shot next year and we don’t. Hell, if Pitt beats WVU, you might win it this year. If you came to BDS again this year, it’d be the same kind people you probably encountered in 02(I was there this year and everyone was very friendly on both sides) Don’t pay attention to ‘internet fans’ from any side because everyone is extreme and douchey on the web…i think it’s a requirement or something. The fans at the stadium i’ve heard no complaints on(sans drunks). We pride ourselves on being friendly.
November 28th, 2007 at 10:05 am
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Ltrain says:
Spooky:
Don’t worry, I could dig up plenty of douch-Florida equivalents. But they’re *our* douches.
Or something like that.
November 28th, 2007 at 10:32 am
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SpookyJuice says:
I dig
November 28th, 2007 at 11:24 am