Once again we are shown – be nice to the press and they will scream bloody murder when you get run out of town no matter how incompetent you were.

Here’s a win/win (I mean win/win/win). Fire Dorrell and hire a competent black man to replace him. Or Norm Chow to show you’re really serious about having a minority.

If they hired Norm Chow, it’d make the press’ heads explode.

“UCLA fired a black coach. But they hired an Asian. The first Asian head coach? But.. but… Does not compute. Does not compute.”

*BOOM!

Streeter went to Berzerkley, which may impact both his ideology and his rooting interests. The last thing his alma mater needs is two competent programs in LA.

Wow.

That’s amazing. That is exactly the same article I read 17,000 times in connection with the end of the Willingham regime at Notre Dame. Thank God Willingham found a new opportunity in Washington to silence all of his critics by leading the Huskies in an inspiring Return to Glory. We can only hope poor martyred Dorrell is afforded the same opportunity after his inevitable termination.

Orson, the fact that you’re still running the faux-Times page with DeWayne Walker in it for the graphic makes it even funnier.

[name redacted] was also fired for being very black. Luckily for him, Illinois still has an affirmative action program in place.

Damn, beaten to the Ty threadjack..

my advice to UCLA fans: don’t bother arguing, they won’t listen but will forget after Karl flounders somewhere else for a while.

I don’t know how much (or how little) race has to do with the Dump Dorrell brigade. But if you’re going to get the race card played on you if you even think about firing a black coach, why would you hire one in the first place? If it goes south, you’re in a no-win situation because either you stick with a guy who’s not getting the job done or you get people calling you racist, or both.

The maddening inconsistency of UCLA under Dorrell should be enough cause, whether the coach is black, white, red, yellow, or blue. If a white coach were in the same situation, he’d be getting just as much heat (see: Smith, John L., 2005-06) and it would be deserved. That Dorrell is black doesn’t change that.

UCLA is a basketball school; it’s just not a great job for a fooball coach. There’s no way UCLA would pay enough to bring a quality coach to Westwood. Dorrell ain’t great, but he’s no Hackett either. Hell, he got a win over USC last year, which more than compensates for losing to Notre Shame. I don’t care whether Dorrell stays or not, but I wouldn’t expect any improvement under whatever successor they find. If I were a “conference” type, I guess I’d be pissed that Dorrell’s teams always find a way to embarrass the Pac 10, but since I’m not, I don’t really give a shit…in fact I find it pretty funny when the Utah’s of the world wipe their feet on those gay uniforms.

Penthouse (sorry Hef) vs. Outhouse Dept:

While ucla goes down the tubes….

….USC is doing pretty good…..with Hef as the latest donor….

…even the LA Times’ USC blog mentioned EDSBS’…Pete Carroll Enchanted Grotto….

(too bad they did not give the EDSBS web address or name, !#$ those liberal ninnies….) Here is their EDSBS quasi plug:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/allthingstrojan/2007/11/the-donor-next.html

An insolvable conundrum:

Is Karl Dorrell a terrible head coach because he’s black, or is he black because he’s a terrible head coach?

Hackett was 2-1 against UCLA, Dorrell is 1-3 against USC.

Of course USC knew what they had in Hackett so he got axed anyway.

Reasonable_Bama_Fan: Is Saban a lousy Bama coach because he is an !##$, or is he an !# because he is ’Bama’s coach?

#9: Did a Duck fan just take a swipe at another team’s uniforms? Really?

Yeah, UCLA’s uniforms DO look that bad.

Isn’t everyone a minority in California? IE, there’s no one racial population that is over 50% of the people, thus creating a definitive minority for all races/backgrounds. Oh the delicious (but organic and locally grown) stew that is Californ-I-A.

I’m not sure if someone pointed this out when you first ran the photoshop, but that’s not Dorrell on your fake LA Times cover, it’s DeWayne Walker. Insert the joke you know I’m thinking of regarding the error…

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Wouldn’t the most prevalent race, whether greater than 50% or not, still be the majority, still making all other races minorities?

I wonder if the white minority has any good coaching candidates?

Karl Dorrell might be awful, but first things first- those uniforms must be changed. Powder blue and lemon just does not intimidate. Even Tony Dungy couldn’t win with the Bucs until they got rid of their Gay Orange Pirate uniforms.

Darken the blue and the yellow, Bruin Nation. Now.

Black dude offering an opinion:

No problem with Dorrell getting his pink slip because dude has had time to generate results. As much talent he had coming back their is simply no way his team should be this mediocre. His players simply don’t seem to get better with time. The issue is really about getting extended benefit of doubt. A fine example would be the Barron “Weis” Harkonnen from the movie Dune, flying around in his hoodie talking about being a genius and wanting all the spice in the galaxy. But why is it not a word or peep about him needing to go from his fanbase after generating the worst record ever.

The truth – no one likes Martin Luther King’s dream.

When you’re judged by the content of your character and the performance in your job, it’s not always sugar plums and lollipops.

Chan Gailey equilibrium is 7-5. UCLA equilibrium is punctuated with 10-2 campaigns.

I suggest we clone Steven J Gould and make him the coach.

If there’s no majority (>50%) population, then the largest one might be a plurality (definiton 3c). Or they’d still be considered the majority because there’s more of them than any other individual group.

But ‘majority’ isn’t always about population. In apartheid-era South Africa, some considered blacks to be the minority population in spite of far outnumbering whites, because the whites held most of the political and economic power.

Chan Gailey’s black? Huh? I’m not sure he could be any whiter…..

Good job – you got the first part of the joke. Now to move on to the second part, compare Gailey to Dorrell. You’ll see that they have essentially the same record, and that both are likely gone.

The idea is to completely destroy the “they only want to get rid of Dorrell because he’s black” argument.

Wow, this far into the thread and we don’t have any bleeding hearts complaining about racism in America.

(before you think I’m denying it, it certainly exists, but not to the extent Dorrell or the guy who wrote the article believe)

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Please tell me you’re kidding.

Chan Gailey is blacker than Ron Prince.

1. ….well said.

Minority Priviledge is very enticing.

It appears Lawrence Ross did not return to defend Dorrell. Tells me everything I need to know about Dorrell.

Nah, I’m just reading the comments. You guys really confuse the issues, so it’s like walking into a room speaking English and having people respond in Latin. We’re both talking, but neither understands the other. So we go back to the groups that make us feel comfortable in our views and opinions and think that the other side is unjustified. So what’s the point of me commenting or trying to explain the nuances? Better to judge Benny Lava’s dancing skills.

I hope the writer is run over by a truck tomorrow. The world would be a better place. People who find racism in every direction, even when there is none, are even more dangerous than those that actually spew hate.

Good comment #19.

Wait a second… John L. Smith’s not black?

Norm Chow at UCLA would be awesome. He truly deserves to be a head coach. He would be be back in Cali and at a school with tons of Asians (kidding, that doesn’t really matter).

And, UCLA-USC would really be great being that Chow was the genius behind the USC offense during the NC years, and I’ve heard that Pete and Norm didn’t always get along.

erik sucks

Cue discussion about Sylvester Croom not getting Mike Shula’s job at Bama….

Let’s see, Georgia fired a white dude who had a 40-19 career record and a 10-2 season. Alabama fired a white dude who followed a 10-2 with a 6-6. Texas fired a white dude who went 41-28-2 and won a couple of conference titles. I could continue, but the moral of the story is: Don’t be inconsistent you fuck. And stop playing the race card in defense of your mediocrity.

Ahem,
Saban sucks

tOSU is the GREATEST college football program in the universe

SEC sucks

Thank you, now what was the posting about?

Holy shit! A black dude (#21) made a Dune reference! My preconceptions about race are crumbling right before my eyes.

#40

All it tells me is that there are black dudes that don’t get laid due to their nerddom, as well.

Some matters transcend race, such as the above.

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    You wrote:
   “But why is it not a word or peep about him [Weis]needing to go from his fanbase after generating the worst record ever.”

There have been those who offer the sentiment you refer to, but there aren’t that many of them. So why is Weis still here after 3 years with the same record as Ty?

Weis: 2 BCS bowls, followed by historically awful year.

Ty: Gator Bowl, followed by awful 5-7 season, then a 6-5 season (they would lose the Insight Bowl to finish 6-6).

Weis: On his way to signing his third straight Top 10 recruiting class, something ND has not had since 1988-90.

Ty: Signed one Top 10 class; his second class was the worst ND had had in 40 years. His third class, as of Nov. 30, 2004, was shaping up to be even worse, as he had only 6 verbal commitments, none from a 4- or 5-star recruit.

Weis: Makes changes to staff, makes changes to coaching strategy, seeks out advice to help program.

Ty: Nope, nope, and nope.

Weis: Loves ND, embraces its tradition, truly wants to be there.

Ty: By the start of his 3rd season, from the way he interacted with the local media and the alumni, it was rather clear he didn’t want to be there. The expectations and pressure at ND are enormous for any coach – both Ara and Lou looked like they aged 25 years in their 11 years there. Ty was already talking to Washington in Oct. 2004.

Rest assured, Weis vs. Willingham complainers, that if Weis has another lousy year next year, he will probably be gone….

Stacy Keibler, you have grasped my point exactly. Some questions are unanswerable.

Willingham and Dorrell are setting back the cause of black coaches everywhere. I don’t know why anyone who would want to see more black HCs would take up for those two twits. Check the history of baseball if you want to see how to successfully “integrate” something in sports. Satchel Paige, Hank Aaron, etc. = quality production, thus long, well paid careers. Dorrell, Willingham = mediocre at best, thus they’ll get sacked. If you want fair, don’t worry, America rewards winners regardless of color. Ask Tony Dungy.

@ 26

Uh, yeah. Got both those parts. Unfortunately, for you, you missed part 3.

@34

You, on the other hand, did not. Congrats.

#44…

So black coaches have to be extraordinary to keep a job and white coaches can be mediocre and it’s okay? Seriously, I think you’ve explained it perfectly. In order for a black coach to receive equal treatment, he must perform above and beyond the white coach. If they’re both mediocre, the white coach will get the benefit of the doubt because of reasons #42 so eloquently explained. I see clearly now…

Ah, I love how most of y’all think you have the moral standing or understanding to determine when race matters and when it doesn’t. There’s no better argument for one aspect of racism when those who are in the offending group can control how those affected by their actions should react. It would be like men on a campus telling women that they’ll be the determiners of what is sexual assault and not them. So in the meantime, wait until we men get back to you on it. Yeah, like that will ever happen.

I honestly feel sorry for most of you. I really don’t care if you’re conservative or liberal, you really should be able to move beyond the clever phrases and go start a bit of critical thinking. Most of you seem to think racism is colored only signs and someone calling another person nigger. It ain’t that. And to have all of this combined college education and not get that is really, really sad.

As the founder and editor of Dump Dorrell I come back to this post now these many months later to cap it with my reflection on his tenure at UCLA.

C ya later!

oh, and Lawrence Ross … you’re a sad joke, a cartoon. No one can criticize a black man but a black man. Go take your self-serving all-knowing holier-than-thou preaching back to the stone age. Lawrence Ross – Taking racism back a few decades at a time. Nyyyyce. Dorrell sucked as a coach .. he’s gone. Deal with it.

Heh.