OPEN THREAD, WEEK TWELVE

Knowshon and Brown will run for over 400 yards today. Write it down baby……

Did anyone notice that only one top ten team has played 11 games? Ohio State is the team. Even the NFL, with a sixteen game schedule, fits in a bye week for every team.
Before you think this post is to justify last week’s loss, Illinois also was playing their eleventh game.

“I like you, Lloyd. I always liked you.”

Enjoy retirement.

So I’m hanging out with my father, an Ole Miss alum, all day at the family compound in the middle of the mountains in NC and he seems to be convinced Ole Miss is gonna beat LSU – “they gotta win one this year.” I’ve never seen a grown man disillusion himself so pathetically. He also seems to think they can beat MS State – cute! And when I informed him that if Vandy wins today, Ole Miss will be the only non bowl eligible SEC team, he looked ready to throw me off the mountain. It’s gonna be a long day.

Michigan…..hope you put up a valiant effort for your coaches last game, even tho’ your ranks are depleted..
Mike Hart may hobble out there, all hyped up on pain meds and darvocet, LorTabs, cough syrup, Hydrocodone, Oxycotin,Perkodan,Coritsone shots directly to the knees and shoulders, 3 hits of blotter acid, huffin Ether, and Mescaline, peyote and mushrooms should numb the pain a bit, just to give Michigan a chance to send Lloyd off into the Michigan history books with a win…what a trooper…..

So… in Pittsburgh… since the local ABC affiliate has picked up ESPN Gameplan to cover the titanic clash that is Pitt at Rutgers, the local Fox affiliate has somehow picked up ABC’s broadcast of Ohio State/Michigan (thank God)…

Don’t know, don’t care.

Just a note here to say that Nevada’s coach is a moron. I’ve never seen worse clock management. I was glad to see Hawai’i’s kicker make that last kick twice after Nevada’s coach called a Shannahan time out. What…you weren’t up at 2:30am watching it? Get out of my sight, pansy.

It’s Rivalry Week! TCU-UNLV, baby! Yeah! I miss the Southwest Conference, no matter how much we sucked back then.

Been busy at work lately, so not on the internets as much as I’d like, but has this been brought up this week? www.dukesuperbowl.com

Go “Juice” Boeckman!

Is Jim Tressel having a mid life crisis wearing that letterman’s jacket? Where is the sweater vest?

i love watching large, slow men crash slowly into each other, as the play slowly unfolds, and one guy slowly runs a slant that gets a slow little pass tossed out across the line for 5 yards.

in short, i love big ten foobaw.*

*i have been huffing gasoline fumes all morning, and i did eat some mescaline earlier before mainlining a flask full of jack daniel’s old #7 tennessee whiskey, so this post may or may not be an accurate reflection of my thoughts

and fyi, i am going to the gator game today, i’m just waiting on my last parking customer to get off the interstates and give me their keys.

Does anyone know why Brandon James and Brandon Spikes aren’t playing today for the Gators? ???

Go ?Juice? Boeckman!

Compared to Henne, Boeckman will look like Juice.

I think they decided not to call pass interference in this game.

i love watching large, slow men crash slowly into each other, as the play slowly unfolds, and one guy slowly runs a slant that gets a slow little pass tossed out across the line for 5 yards.

Very original.

god damnit they even FUMBLE slowly

@12
they are definetely not calling pass interference here. and, michigan has coated the field in teflon™.

If ND doesn’t just flat out steamroll Duke today – I’m going to drive up to South Bend to slap Weis in the face – then congratulate him on the recruiting haul this year – then slap him again.

‘Wait till next year’ – growing up in Atlanta I’ve heard that one all my life about the Falcons.

Anyone else see the sign of the year on Gameday this morning??

“You can’t spell C_CK_ _ CKER without OSU”

Those classy Columbians

Herbstreit always needs to find something nice to say about Michigan so he doesn’t appear to be the homer Bob Griese used to be.

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Doesen’t ND always get the #1 recruiting class every year, just edging out Michigan and Florida?

c’mon wildcats, remember the national title game?!? a certain miami dolphins kick returner took one to the house, albeit with a hold on the Eraser, in the opening drive for the buckeyes.

and then what happened kentucky? don’t stop believing.

Those classy Columbians
 
You mean classy Michiganders?

How are the classy Domers handling being a less than 1 TD favorite over abysmal Duke?

UNC is up 3-0 in the first quarter, getting a field goal on their opening drive. You may not think that’s a big deal, but for the Tar Heels that’s the best start to a game all season

1. - how do you think I’m handling it – I’m already “in the bag” enough today to misidentify the perpetrator of that beautiful sign. I should have said, classy Ann Arborists.

#18, not true – not true at all. And don’t you have a cooler to go take a dump in or something??

Mikey Henderson has had quite the afternoon indeed. Why propose before the game buddy? What if she said no?

Chad Henne meet Vernon Gholston, the man who as a freshman in high school in Michigan, was recruited to play football when the football coach saw him walking down the hall and thought he was a parent of one of the students. Bench presses 475 lbs. Should have a nice NFL career.

Understandable #22, but never use classy and Ann Arbor in the same sentence. Ann Arbor is a whore.

You know how Saddam wept at his last meeting with his FBI interrogator?

I am weeping now because this is my last Saturday with the Daves.

How many folks out there in SEC land have fathers and grandfathers still cursing and upset that Mikey Henderson proposed to that white girl.

There aren’t many things that give me hope about my “home country” (Georgia) but seeing that and seeing it celebrated makes me very happy and gives me hope.

Last drunken social commentary of the day – let’s get to some footbaaawwlll.

Fucking HATE the Daves. There is not enough alcohol in the house right now to make the Daves and their shtick bearable, especially if Georgia decides to keep this game close … shitballs.

1. - I’m not touching that comment with a ten foot pole. Come on bulldawgs!

For those of us who are not in the know, what did Mikey Henderson do, and who are the Daves?

Mikey Henderson proposed to his girlfriend right before kickoff, after Senior Day festivities, announcements and such. He’s black, she’s white. And the Daves are the 3 godawful commentators who do all the SEC Lincoln Financial games. They are the epitome of suck. Someone can elaborate exactly why … I can’t put my finger on it, I just can’t stand them.

I’ll answer my own Q’s you neanderthal drunkards….From the Gainesvilee Sun…“UF sophomore Jarred Fayson returned the punt in place of usual kick returner Brandon James, who is dressed but won’t play according to coach Urban Meyer. Meyer gave no reason for the decision”.

Brandon Spikes has played but didn’t start

Henderson proposed to his girlfriend before the game started (with her parents and friends there on the field). Daves = really bad white noise provided for SEC games.

Oh my. I’m sorry in advance Bulldawg fans – since my alma mater is doing so poorly this year I thought I would adopt my home state team… looks like the ND curse is following me this year. Okay, I’m for Kentucky for the rest of this game. My bad.

I figured one of the Daves had to be Dave Lapham the face raper.

Touchdown! Beanie Wells!

The tOSU v. UM game looks like Cincy v. ATL on Tecmo Bowl without blowing on the game first. slow as a drunken ass tap.

Worse than the sound of Mussberger licking McSweater balls?

Gators are looking sloppy like Sweater-vest’s asshole after Brent gets through with it.

In a combination of pouring rain/snow, I wouldn’t expect a high flying game. Only the dominate SEC can levitate above the sloppy ground and have a special force keep the ball dry and play speed ball in the rain. Didn’t you know that?

Rolling out the door? Conflict avoidance is for the week. I would’ve punched the bitch in the teeth.

Re: slowness…It’s 35 degrees and raining…

If any of you SEC pussies ever played even one single game north of the slavery line, you might understand this….

BTW. when is the last time that happened? Tennessee vs Notre Dame like 3 years ago? LOL…

#1, that’s a Big 10 phenomenon since Delany has refused to allow teams to schedule games after Thanksgiving. That’s the reason for the long layoff last year between the Michigan Game and BCS CG.

Too much rest, not enough rest, sounds like you should write a letter.

slow. fart

Weirdest play of the day: Connor Barth just called a timeout before a KICKOFF.

#41

That’s a brilliant observation. “The Big 10: It’s the snow that makes us slow!!!”

So, we’ll just have to wait for global warming to take hold before your conference becomes relevant again.

don’t act like you suddenly get fast when it isn’t cold

Wow a “wet rain”. who knew?

A clip from my IMs I want to share:

FAU scored 23 on USF
they scored 17 on UK
6 on Oklahoma State
(their coach is a man; also, 40)
and they scored 20 on UF
in a quarter

At least UK is keeping UF’s SEC hopes alive.

My 40 times:

35 degrees: 6.1
80 degrees: 4.5
200 degrees: 2.2

must have been fucking freezing in arizona last january.

That’s right. On Mars, I am that fast.

BTW, watching the UGA game with the Daves on mute.

It wasn’t cold in Tempe….

And Auburn plays at WVU last year, after michigan and notre dame turned us down for home-and-homes

Hey, quick, name all the SEC teams that have more players currently in the NFL than OSU…

That’s right, none…only Da U has more …and OSU has the most WRs as well, which is a position sorta dependent on speed…

So just drop the “speed” crap. You guys sound like idiots on ESPN. It’s beneath you. You have a lot of good teams in your conference, nobody’s disputing that…

if it’s about speed, then how many olympic sprinters have come from the SEC vs. the Big 10?

that’s right, fuck you

pants,

i’m betting half of them are o linemen.

…and not much is beneath me.

actually, I have no idea what the answer to my question is, but I assume the SEC probably has more.

either way, while OSU has an impressive number of NFL players, it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re fast, which is the topic of this discussion.

Armanti Edwards had speed…

It’s possible Georgia may now be conscious, 10-6 UK after a Thomas Brown TD run, XP pending

When I lay me down to sleep tonight, I fully plan on thanking God for bringing that yankee Knowshon Moreno down to UGA.

slowest punt return EVER

Florida Atlantic?

Florida is playing an airline?

These Krystal commercials have presented me with a real philosophical dilemma:

Are these women hot chicks who are fat, or fat chicks who are hot?

Either way, I blame the “Krystal sack-full.”

#64

And the airline had more yards at the half.

if it’s about speed, then how many olympic sprinters have come from the SEC vs. the Big 10?

How many SEC teams have an Olympic sprinter as their speed coach?

Um, I’m pretty sure Terry Glenn, Joey Galloway, David Boston, Drew Carter, Mike Jenkins, Santonio Holmes, Ted Ginn, Tony Gonzales, Roy Hall, etc. have.

And we do have one slow wide receiver of note: Chris Carter.

And the defensive backs: Antoine Winfield, Nate Clements, Shawn Springs, Donte Whitner, Mike Doss, Chris Gamble, Ashton Youboty.

These are all recent, contemporary players.

Malcolm Jenkins will be a top 15 pick as well.

Show me an SEC team with that resume.

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If a Big 10 team has a speed coach, he isn’t doing his job.

Ryan Mallett is in the game.

May as well clear out Michigan Stadium now….

How many gold medals would Sonny Crockett have won if he hadn’t blown out his knee?

The question should be, how many tOSU players actually start instead of being practice squad players vs any other SEC school..ah who cares, tOSU wont be gettin waxed in the MNC game anyway so who cares, slow or fast, they wont get there..watching Michigan vs OSU is like watching a snake eat a rat….one wins, the other loses in a slow death

tOSU is dropping the hammer on Mallet. Rock me!

Bully! The valiant Crimson of Harvard are getting the better of their rivals from Yale.

Seriously, this game is on TV here. I just turned it on in time to hear the play-by-play announcer compare Harvard’s quarterback to Peyton Manning.

Also, Harvard has a running back named Ho. Too bad there are no names on the jerseys.

Northern racists playing the slavery card? Now this is quality SEC-Big10 rivalry discussion.

I just flipped to the Lincoln Financial ACC game, UNC and Ga Tech … who the hell calls those games? They are worse than the Daves. So horrible.

Excuse me, Raycom ACC game. My bad.

Won’t Raycom be our new SEC overlords???

If a Big 10 team has a speed coach, he isn’t doing his job.

Ginho came up with a pretty good list of OSU speed, let’s see you match it with your team. Or get 1-8-07 tattoed on your arm because in 20 years, you’ll still be dragging up one game. Let it go. Live in the now.

OSU Speed Coach

MrPants as Corso would say about no OSU in title game. “Not so fast my friend.”

re: Raycom, yeah they bought LF apparently … don’t really know too much about it and don’t really care – as long as they don’t subject us to that Chris Daughtry opening song anymore for both the ACC and SEC games.

Ronnie Brown, Carnell Williams, Stephen Davis, Rudi Johnson, Kenny Irons, Brent Fullwood, Bo Jackson, Lionel James, Joe Cribbs, James Brooks, William Andrews

there’s some speed in there…

So by matching your list of former OSU receivers with fast former players from my school, I can obviate the need to have “1-8-07” tattooed on my arm?

I’m not following your line of reasoning.

Wanted, slow, preferably white, guy to play statue on vaunted Wolverine offense.

It would help if you could also not hit a bull in the ass with a bass fiddle

To remind you of the date of the game you will be using in 20 years to still explain your tired old slow Big 10 argument.

Michigan fans booing Mario Manningham. Stay classy Wolverines.

Can’t wait to see Mike the Mouth Hart’s post-game conference. Someone should explain him the meaning of “talk the talk, walk the walk.”

Of course your freaking wide receivers have speed, it’s a speed position. We have linebackers that fast.

you guys are bringing up Joey Galloway, David Boston, and Terry Glenn, yet you call me out for prospectively bringing up 20 year old statistics.

Actually, I think most people would agree that there isn’t much difference in speed between SEC and Big Ten players at the positions of wide receiver, cornerback, and running back. The difference in speed is on the lines and at linebacker. The reason UF beat OSU last year was primarily because of our speed at the lines. You just don’t see many guys like Jarvis Moss and Derrick Harvey playing in the Big Ten. LSU and Auburn have a ton of guys like that. That’s where the real speed difference shows itself.

Come on Woodson, one big drive.

I’d just like to step in and say that any college football program that has played for a national title in the past 25 years that isn’t BYU or Colorado has plenty of “speed”, and has a long tradition of s"peed". Conference doesn’t matter. It’s the dumbest argument I’ve ever heard.

WOOHOO!!! I love Asher Allen almost as much as I love Moreno and Brown!!!

Review my ass…

1. - I agree. Boys have the stupidest arguments, this one is definitely one of the most pointless though. Just whip out your dicks and be done with it.

baconboy – I would agree with that, and that seems to be the difference: the lines. In the SEC, offensive linemen are lighter and more athletic so they can handle speedy 240 LB rushers on the D-line that are omnipresent in the SEC. In the Big Ten, I just have to use the example of one of OSU’s starting O-linemen pushing 350 (the lumbering dumbfuck that is Steve Rehring). I can’t think of Big Ten DE with the possible exception of Vernon Gholston, Brandon Graham or Jonal Saint-Dic who would fit the SEC mold. I think you hit the nail on the head. At the skill positions, we’re relatively equal, with perhaps a slight advantage given to the SEC.

@94

It’s college football. I can’t think of a single argument about CFB that isn’t, in the grand sense of things, a dumb, pointless pissing contest.

I still can’t believe that the speed argument is still floating around…I guess no one watched the 2002 national championship game where Ohio State’s speed was the surprise of the game. That Miami team produced more NFL stars than any other and Ohio State stood toe to toe with them and beat them. I don’t remember any of the Ohio State DB’s getting burned, but Gamble and Jenkins burned the Miami DB’s a few times.

And unless you have personally played in 30 degree or lower weather with rain, sleet and snow coming down, you have absolutely no clue how much it affects the game. When it’s hot and humid you can rotate fresh guys in and have guys sit in front of the mist-fans…when it’s cold and wet you can’t grip the ball, can’t feel your hands, and the ground feels like cement.

The last time I saw Alabama play in the cold they were getting their asses handed to them by VT 38-7.

Tony Hunt is not impressed with your SEC speed and personally, he thinks Tennessee is a bunch of pussies who didn’t want to tackle him.

Watch till the end for his comments.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=37lg7SXs7rY

Kind of hard to argue with someone who is on the field.

How about SEC speed at the inside linebacker position….Robert Willis, inside linebacker, OLE MISS, ran a 4.39 40 yrd dash at 6’2 240…inside linebacker, starting as a rookie in the NFL….from a horrible Ole Miss team, thats faster than many Big 10 running backs….Does anyone need to list the amount of players from LSU that start in the NFL that Nick Saban recruited, or the ones that will be going this year?
Laron Landry, Jamarcus Russell, Dewayne Bowe,Joseph Addai,Devery Henderson,Josh Reed, Brady James, Kevin Faulk,hell there were 34 last year in the league that started or were active on rosters and not on the practice squad….Alabama has a few also, you may have heard of Shaun Alexander, Demeco Ryans, Roman Harper, Deshea Townshed…The SEC is a Defense first League, then offense, of course defense wins Championships….

Aaaaahhh, go Vandy indeed. What’s a good website to watch that game at? Or track it I guess?

#95

Alabama’s best offensive lineman is 350 f’king pounds. Just be honest with yourself and everyone else, the only reason you mention the word speed is because that is what you hear from hack analysts who don’t break the game film down and explain things in terms of schemes and X’s and O’s. It’s much easier and understandable for the average football fan if they just say, “I’m taking Tennessee because they have SEC speed.”

The other reason you clowns bring up speed is because Steve Spurrier came into the SEC and dominated it with a fun and gun offense that was predicated on speed at the skill positions. The rest of the conference simply took on that identity to compete.

Do us all a favor and bring something more meaningful to the table than speed when sharing your analytical insight.

2 years ago, Ohio State had more first round draft picks than the entire SEC combined. Nate Clements got the biggest free-agent contract because he is probably the best lock down corner in the NFL, at least one of the best.

Right now Casey Dick is 12/13 for 194 yards and 4tds

check you local hell for reports of freezing

TAFKATOSUB – you apparently don’t realize I’m a Buckeye. He’ll I’m currently a student.

Anyway…. The difference between the SEC and the Big Ten with regards to speed is NOT AT THE SKILL POSITIONS. It is on the lines. We need only to hearken back to 1-8-07 to realize it. Also, look back on some drafts – Jevon Kearse, Jamal Anderson, Jarvis Moss, all huge 1st round picks and at least one of them is already an All-Pro. The last great Big 10 D-linemen that I can think of that’s also great in the NFL is freaking Will Smith. Kenny Peterson, Tim Anderson, all those guys from that national-title winning D-line are out of work last I remember.

My bad, I meant #90, plus I’m just so tired of the word speed. Go Bucks!

TafkatosuB,
The SEC is slow and cumbersome. We have no athletes. No one ever goes pro. LSU is overrated with sub par talent. SEC games are no fun to watch. They are all landslides. Florida barely beat Ohio State on the field, the score did not reflect how close it was. SEC coaches are boring and predictable. LSU will not win the MNC. Tim Tebow is overrated, who cares about 20 rushing TDs and 20 passing TD’s, that is a mirage made up by CBS. The SEC will not win any bowl games since they are automatically overmatched and outcoached, and have no talent. The SEC will not put anyone in the NFL before the 15th round. Darren McFadden would not start over Beanie Wells, DMAC is too slow and weak. He could not run in 30 degree weather, he would simply crack like a windshield from each hit. The SEC is simply not strong enought to compete with the big boys in the Big 10, forever and ever .Amen.

How’s this for alliteration: “Phil Fulmer is so fucking fired.”

@ 101 (the Artist)

go watch a replay of the UF-OSU game. i believe the reason speed is mentioned is because Florida’s d-line looked faster than Troy Heisman Smith.

…and a special “up yours” for making me talk up a team i loathe

Trust me, the “SEC speed” meme is tiring, especially when otherwise intelligent people like Pelican Pants start buying into it.

You know Pelican Pants, that’s pretty much the same crap we’ve heard from you guys all summer in reverse. Neither argument makes any sense at all.

Somebody please tell Gary Danielson that it’s not “OLD” Miss. Jebus Titty Tapdancing Christ, and I’m a fucking TIGERS fan. Stupidity reigns at CBS. Halleluia, Holy Shit. Where’s the Tylenol?

Well TAFKATSOSOOSSSUUB,
We will ban the word SPEED. We will replace it with
Supercalafragilisticexpalodocious

Forget the tired arguments, lets line em up and blow the whistle……..everyones bowl record will probaly end up split down the middle. If the SEC puts in 6 teams, and Big 10 gets 6, it will all be 3-3 anyway. Dont see any one conference sweeping their bowl games since there will be so many coaching changes prior to the bowl games anyway.

How did the SEC speed work out against the Big Ten in the other two bowl games last year that matched the two conferences?

Penn State and Wisconsin beat Tennessee and Arkansas, and they finished 3rd and 4th in the Big Ten.

Big Ten (very sloooow) 2 wins
SEC (Super Fast) 1 win

Ah, ESPN GameCast can be so much fun sometimes.

Tenn rush for loss of 3.
Erik Ainge pass incomplete.
Erik Ainge pass incomplete.
Punt.

that big ten talent is currently down 19-0 to a 3-7 directional michigan.

Tim, I’m enjoying the same pretty (so far) Gamecast. Hating that the Dawgs’ SEC East hopes are in Vandy’s semi-capable hands but yeah, Go Commodores!

#113
You forgot one….41-40 Florida over tOSU…close game…..SEC won that one barely for the MNC…..
So we split again……2-2…..that score could be wrong, i’m not sure

Touchdown Vawls, now going for the tie.

Wow, Les Miles’ team having problems defending a mobile quarterback.

He’ll fit right in at Michigan.

It is not the speed of the players, but the quick thinking of the current and former SEC coaches. For example:

The Zooker – 28
The Sweatevest – 21

Enjoy!

www.firenicksaban.com

UL-Monroe -21
Alabama – 14
9 minutes to go in 4th

It is not the speed of the players, but the quick thinking of the current and former SEC coaches. For example:

The Zooker – 28
The Sweatervest – 21

Enjoy!

YAW YAW YAW BRENT SCHAEFFER

I bet RCR is freakin about to go postal….Ole Miss has the ball 2nd down at the LSU 5 yrd line….Coach O switches QB, from Schaeffer to Adams, 2 penalties later, Adams throws a complete pass in the end zone….to LSU!!!

The Vawls win 25-24.

Fuck Vandy’s kicker. Fuckin’ missed 49 yard field goal. Fuck Tennessee.

Fuck Tennessee is right. God, I hate them. Why can’t we get a coach who doesn’t sit on the ball with a 16-point lead?

Damn,
Alabama gets Croomed by Louisiana Monroe….
I didnt realize Mike Shula couldnt recruit linemen..didnt realize how much lack of depth our Offensive line has….LOL Louisiana Monroe….

Alabama beats the hell out of Tennessee. Then Alabama loses to MS State, LSU and LA-Monroe. And Vandy can’t eke it out to beat the Vols after gaining a 15 pt. lead? I bet Tennesse will do the same thing against Kentucky next weekend yet win the game and UGA, obvs the better team, will not win SEC East. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK. I need lots more alcohol.

Goddamit, needed Vandy to beat the Vols…so please, Kentucky ’Cats..beat Fulmer next week…for the love of God…help a Bulldawg out…

Fuck Alabama, fuck Tennessee. Now I just need to find a Vols fan to punch in the face.

#120

Saban 14
Whoever the Louisana Monroe coach is 21

Go. Fuck. Your. Self.

I’m sure the recruits at the Bama game thoroughly enjoyed the fans booing the team off the field.

Actually booing the QB who, again, spotted the other team 6 pts with a INT, again, and then another INT in which they scored another TD…so 14 pts from one QB….they wont burn the redshirt of the highly touted freshman that should be starting, plus the fact 5 starters from the O-line were suspended for the re-sale of textbooks, so I guess they had it coming…a sucky ass QB who wouldnt start for a High School and a rag tag practice squad of an O-line will get you beat when you spot anybody 14 pts and have no alternatives at QB….pretty crucial position with a mental midget we are stuck with….cost us the last 3 games….I will be glad to get Shulas loser ass recruits off this team so we can fuckin start over….

I didn’t really expect Vandy to hold that lead, for the simple reason that they’re Vandy. They tease and tease and tease. Vandy fans must have blue balls. I have little faith in Kentucky to manage the upset next week either. Oh well, I can live with a 10-2 Sugar Bowl season. Too bad though. LSU could have been had.

#132—true that—they are Vandy and I am okay with 10-2 Sugar Bowl…maybe against W. Va so we can shove it up their ass as payback.

Haha. JP Wilson is awesome.

#132: Yes, we do, in fact, have blue balls. Of course, when we open up a 15-point lead on Tennessee, we completely expect that our boys will blow it, just like they did against Georgia, with that fumble in the red zone on what should have been the winning drive. That was what made the South Carolina win so surprising: we got a lead and didn’t blow it. Of course, that just turned out to be South Carolina getting exposed, but whatever.

First the War Hawks. Next, the War Eagles.

Shula got a raw deal.

Can I get the number of Jeff Gillooly to hire someone to whack Sarah Jessica Parker-Wilson on the knee so we can get another Qb, with a side order of hitting Major Applewhite upside the head for his scatterbrained play calling…..call a screen on every play if they wont block on the line…
Cue the late night phone calls to Major Applewhites house…….

113

HELLO. That was the one win. Three games were played, not four.

Somewhere, Coach Tuberville is looking at his other hand and choosing a finger

6 fingers for the 6 million dollar coach… he should be so embarassed

The amount of pure hate for Tennessee emanating from my body right now is impressive. Shake it off … shake it off …

Kentucky looked good in the 1st half today against GA though, is the game at Kentucky?

#129-

You see, Saban got his start in the Big Ten, so he’s been contaminated. Blah blah yak yak my conference is better than your conference but my team sucks bullshit.

why am i watching notre dame on television? rephrase, why are they on television (i know the answer… it’s rhetorical).

Big LOL @ the Tennessee hate.

Keep hatin’.

#131
Did John Parker Wilson start for the 4 time state champion Hoover High? Quit making excuses. I heard the radio announcers blaming the loss on the 85 scholarship limit and how it has leveled the playing field.

The truth of the matter is that Saban is a 66% coach who has had one 1 win season, two 2 win seasons and the rest were 3-4 loss or more seasons.

LSU backed into the NCG in 2003 and beat a conference runner-up for a share of the NC. In 2001, Saban’s other major achievement, LSU became the first team in the history of college football to win a conference title with 3 conference losses…no team had ever won a conference title with three conference losses before 2001’s LSU team.

What else has he done? Besides take credit for LSU’s success, which to be honest, hasn’t been much. They have beaten Miami and ND in bowl games, that’s pretty much it. No SEC titles, no national titles.

The bottom line is that Saban is over-hyped and over-paid. Don’t be surprised if he bails out of Bama before he is exposed, just like he did Miami.

And besides Saban, what has Bama done in the last 15 years? Shit, they have only beaten 1 conference champion in the last 20+ years, Miami in 92’.

What is funny..is Alabama losing to LA-Monroe will probaly end up , in some strange way, hurting LSU’s strength of schedule and more than likely put them in #2

Quoting AUTigerGrad…

Last 4 Recruiting Classes for Bammer rated by Rivals.com

2007- #10
2006- #11
2005- #18
2004- #15

The Bammer spin of “We have no talent” is weak to say the least.

Your God of a Coach just choked on applesauce to LOUISIANA MONROE

It’s great.
To be.
A Tennessee Vol.

I said: “It’s great. To be. A Tennessee Vol.”

Sorry Georgia. Sorry Florida. Sorry you hapless, pathetic, pitiable dores.

Y’all watch that Big orange in Atlanta now ya hear!

#120

Hey dumb ass, Ron Zook is from Ohio. Urban Meyer is from Ohio. Jim Tressel is from Ohio. The Stoops family of coaches is from Ohio.

What great coach has the state of Alabama produced? Bear wasn’t from Alabama…so I guess Mike Dubose is the only one I can think of right now.

100 ribbed condoms for that hot Michigan MILF

#146

Don’t forget Don Nehlen, old WVU coach…from Mansfield, OH

Mark Dantonio also grew up and went to high school in Zanesville, OH

Bo Pelini, LSU D-Coordinator, from Youngstown, OH (my hometown)

the list goes on…

Amen #145…I am so sick of Bama’s excuses and wait till next year bull shit. I hope Auburn (War Dam Eagle) crushes Alabama and Tubby gets one for the pinkie.

Bama just caught transitive herpes, North Texas, possibly the worst team in the country, has 1 win, Louisiana Monroe.

Rich Brooks thinks Major Applewhite’s playcalling was complete bullshit.

147

Is Antonio Alfonseca* a Barner?

*-sorry for baseball reference

and when you lose to LA Monroe, there’s nothing transitive about those herpes

Let me end this SEC vs. Big 10 crap right now.
I see a clear winner in this battle.

www.secpoon.com

Case closed.

better link to cut and paste

http://poonsec.blogspot.com/

150

Any reference of Antonio “Six Finger” Alfonseca is fine by me.

Weis avoids an open handed pimp slap from yours truly (see #15) – about time we beat on someone. I would start raving about how great the running game looked and how Jimmy Clausen played a really nice game – but it was Duke, and no matter what the ND record is this year, I still have more pride than that.

I will add though I was very happy our fifth year senior STIFF John Sulllivan was out for the game. The OLine played their best game of the year without that STIFF in there. And no one tried to snap the ball clean over Clausen’s head.

tOSU,
Write this down……….You will be hearing alot from Georgia, Florida and Alabama in the next 3 yrs. With your great vast amount of talent and great schedule, you will get to meet them again if you do not get knocked off by Illinois w/in the next 3 yrs. Your gonna throw the Overhyped word out there? Really? The problem is we are maybe 3 yrs away from competing with Florida or Georgia, since we will face one of them for the SEC championship down the road…the winner usually goes on to thump a Big 10 or Big 12 team in the MNC….Then you will also have to deal with Les Miles and Michigan so your plate will be full before “talking all dat noise”.. Plus he took a Michigan State team and beat a #3 Michigan team, lest you forget, which in some way helped Ohio State I am sure.
The guy knows talent, he didnt recruit these bozo’s, he is getting his team assembled, with a #3 recruiting class his first year in, he puts 3 yrs together with top 5 recruiting classes back to back, and you’ll be hearing more than you want to about him…and Alabama…and I will say this, his eye for talent is unmatched in recruiting, the guys he recruits more than likely end up playing on Sundays, Period, and thats a fact, not a overhyped Myth. Took LSU from obscurity to NCAA champions….He had a little more to work with…Denardos problem with his last 3 classes ranked #8,#9 and #8 is that 1/2 of them werent qualified to play. Shulas last 3 classes before he got booted were ranked #49,#15,#18…Saban@ same time frame at LSU #15,#2,#1…that should tell you something about how the cupboard is stocked, then his first year @ Bama in he has a #3…with most of it in state 5 star commits??? Overhyped? Hell most people thought this team with or with out Saban was looking at 3-7 max, plus you factor in the Saban Theory-losing to one shitty team a year-and you have where we are at….which is full of gutless wonders that Shula brought in that we will gladly get rid of at years end…..mainly the QB position……Georgia, Florida or Alabama will win MNC before tOSU gets there I promise ya that…..

There are no legitimate excuses – Bama is just bad, and outside of the occassional Florida ‘05/Tenn ’07 game, we haven’t done anything in years.

This whole “once we get Saban’s boys” myth is bullshit. JP sucks, Applewhite sucks, but its awfully hard to look at a loss to ULM and not wonder about whether Saban is getting it done. Remember, Shula beat the dogshit out of ULM… with Shula’s player.

Perhaps Shula’s players don’t want to play for Saban… they certinaly didn’t want to play today. If that’s really the case, then Saban certainly bears some complicity.

I remember a couple of years ago at the Dolphinis he pissed everybody off by saying it didn’t matter if they won or lost that year. I wonder if he’s taking the same mindset now. If so, fuck him.

I dont know which would be worse….being ranked #1 2 yrs in a row and getting knocked off late in the year by unranked opponents or lower ranked opponents, or being Croomed and Monroed when your not ranked and half your players are suspended, and you suspend your best WR for this game for team violations……I’d rather lose when I’m not ranked than to have my hopes up and have them crushed one year by Urban Myer 41-17 and then Ron Zook 28-21 the next year….I’d be careful about that overhyped word….
Florida coaches, current or former, just dont care about tOSU being number #1…..

Wait a minute – I thought my Irish had like patent rights or something like that to the words “overrated” and “overhyped”.

Hell both Nick Saban and Urban Myer both were Asst Coaches at tOSU in the 80’s……they are your brothers
TAFKATOSUB

Good for Indiana! A bowl just a few months after Hoeppner’s death. Go Hoosiers!

HAHAHAHAHAHA

24-21 AGAINST LA-MO

FUCK YOU RICK BRAGG

Wow. I think I’m tired of parity. I miss the days when giants walked the earth. I’m not convinced the SEC is what it usually is. I’m not convinced any conference has been what it usually is this year. I think we’re seeing the future with 10 bowl eligible SEC teams but most of whom are good/average instead of 7-8 bowl eligible teams 4 of whom are good/great.

I’m still not sure I’m going to take crap from tOSU (although thanks for the War Eagle and this one is for the other index finger) when their second best team got beat by the second best team in the Southern Conference and blown out by the second best team in the PAC 10.

21-14 because I’m drunk.

WHICH IS EVEN WORSE AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Looks like someone struck a nerve with Mr. Pelican Pants

I’d rather lose when I’m not ranked than to have my hopes up and have them crushed

And that is why your team is a bunch of losers.

Any program with the competitive desire to win would rather be ranked and lose to an unranked team for the simple fact that they want to be in the hunt. If it doesn’t work out oh well.

Your justification is like the sales rep who doesn’t ask someone if they want to buy his product because “I just know they will say no.”

Jon Saunders of ABC Sports just stepped up a lot in my esteem of studio men; when commenting on Mike Hart’s performance today, he said Hart’s mouth ran for more yardage than Hart did today.

Coaches from Alabama: let’s see. Who has the most wins in D-I football? Oh yeah, Bobby Bowden. Born in Birmingham, AL, along with all his sons. I think some of them coach.

Does anyone have a a screenshot of that girl who was crying at the end of the michigan game that they cut to like 100 times at the end of the game

She was cute

141

Saban had his coaching debut at Toledo. His 9-2 record caught the attention of MSU who hired him after that one year at Toledo.

I’m fixin to turn this here machine that be hummin an strummin on my left into an end all that says fuck you assholes that dwell on the dumb shit, let me see you out run this nuclear reaction. Imma kidnap all you bitches, conference regardless. Once I hit the dummy stick yall better duck. KABOOM!!!

#156
Ohio State has lost to 4 teams in the the last 3 years. 2 National Champions, 1 12-1 Conference Champion, and a 9-3 Illinois team in what was supposed to be a rebuilding year for Ohio State. We started the year ranked 12th, breaking in a new quarterback.

There is no other team in the country with only 4 losses to teams of that caliber in the last 3 years, not one out of 119.

Saban is a great recruiter, but not a great coach. Mark Dantonio and Will Muschamp have been the defensive masterminds behind his success. There’s no doubt that Saban can recruit…but despite all of his great recruiting, he is still a 66% coach who backed into a BCS title game and beat a conference runner-up for his lone claim to fame.

The day he beats a defending National Champion riding a 34 game win streak and wins an undefeated, undisputed National Championship, you come and see me.

#156

“the winner usually goes on to thump a Big 10 or Big 12 team in the MNC…”

Bama as the SEC champion in 1999 lost to Michigan as the Big Ten runner-up. Is 21-14 really thumping someone? If I remember, LSU got a late pick 6 to win that game.

on second thought, maybe I don’t want Ga to play W. VA in the Sugar Bowl…hmmm. They are lookin’ to whoop up on the Bearcats.

Why does “the artist formerly known as” continue to elicit while jellybean says KABOOM!

KABooom?

ORSON, save a man!! Yes to Tebow for Heisman. How about JellyBean for YEAH KABOOOOOOOM!

TAFKATOSUB @ 167

Who of note has tOSU beaten during the past 3 years?

Nobody

they have done a good job of not losing to bad teams, which is more than a lot of teams can say, but the fact remains that they cannot beat excellent teams.

Let me start by saying…I hate Bama…I hate their obnoxious redneck fans.

But compare Ohio State to Alabama on an all time basis. Start with national championships please.

For a school that gets their A beat every chance they have a chance at a national championship lately against a SEC school, you would think OSU would be more humble.

Yea, I’m talking basketball too.

I’ve realized that no matter what the dickens I say, I will never be a good ol’ boy.

PW- you jerk-off, oh my god, hold on, ow, ow, OW, KABOOM ! you if we were given the opportunity! KABOOOOOOOOM!!!!!

I’ll apologize for you, but………… oh, oh, oh, KABOOOOOOOOOM TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!

WOOOO, WOOO, WOOO, and everytime we get a chance???? WOOP WOOP WOOP FUCK YOURSELF, at least we get a chance… WOOO WOOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, Mr. me too, get to a quarterfinal before you ramp your motherfucking mouth, WOOO WOOO WOOO!!!!!!

DOUCHE BAGS… DOUCHE BAGS…. DOUCHE BAGS…

BLOCK ME… BLOCK ME… BLOCK ME.. HATE ME… (cause I hate me)

OMG…getting tired of the SEC-tOSU debate…seriously, there are more troubling matters such as a Big 12 team in the NCG…there are actually a couple of games still on—Cincy just scored and I would love W. Va to go down…anyone watching OU-Tech?

OBNOXIOUS.. en espaniol “ODIOSO”

JP Wilson looks like that lesbian girl with the bama bangs on Tila Tequila’s reality tv show. This is your quarterback

1. - hear, hear.

The Dread Pirates just got a turnover on a fumble. Yarr.

Annapolis Doug is afraid to type the word ‘asshole’.

Is your wife looking over your shoulder while you type, Jebus Boy?

 tOSU doesn’t matter right now. Same goes for The Douchebag Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes, although he really never matters at all.

From someone with a basement with 13 TV’s and 4 satillite hook ups ..and gets every televised game (yes I’m recently divorced)….This is the worst Saturday night slate I’ve seen all yea……Isn’t this rivalry time?

Who of note has tOSU beaten during the past 3 years?

Hmm why did you pick 3 years as your cut off? Because OSU won the national title 5 years ago and went 14-0?

@ Washington
@ #2 Texas
@ #13 Iowa

1. Michigan
2. Notre Dame
3. Kansas State
   @#24 Penn State
4. Iowna
5. Michigan State
6. Michigan

It’s funny, everyone said this year, OSU will have a challenge at Washington, then OSU beats them and the talk is, Washington isn’t good, then we go to Penn State, which will be tough game, and we win, then Penn State isn’t that good.

Ohio State takes care of business usually, and in the system in place, that is the way to be ranked. Don’t like it? Hate the system, not OSU.

#172

I love how you start a comparison of schools with the most mythical measuring stick available…lol. I love how all of the SEC fans are getting as much mileage out of Florida’s success against Ohio State…Bama fans, your team is 6-5, riding a 3 game losing streak which includes ULM, you haven’t done shit in 15 years, and yet you want to bash ohio state.

By the way, Ohio State is 1 of only 2 schools in the country who have won National Championships in the 3 major sports, Football, Basketball, and Baseball. Anyone know who the other school is???

I can type asshole.

Hate to escalate this but what kitchen does Jorge work in? And what man bass do you play?

Asshole.

#177—yeah, the Sat night games kind of suck but I am getting panicky because I know there are only about 2 weeks left of real college ball and I am storing up for the long winter, spring and summer…and the WVA-Cincy game is not bad—truly….

oh and can the tOSU-Alabama-SEC whatever bullshit…I am going to hate all those teams if you guys don’t chill….

Just throwing this out there…Ohio State has beaten 4 conference champions in bowl games the last ten years. 4-1 in BCS bowls, going to our 6th this year and unless USC gets to a BCS bowl no one will have more BCS appearances.

I don’t want to argue Big Ten vs. SEC or tOSU vs. SEC, but I can’t sit back and read some of these comments that are just way off base.

I would much rather talk about UWV going down or OU going down.

Same record as Shula – Check.
Lost to Mississippi State – Check.
Didn’t score a TD vs Mississippi State – Check.
Lost Homecoming – Check.
4 million dollar Check.

IS anyone else getting tired of the Allstate Bergwood and his fat blonde friend commercials? Would love it if OU went down…do Kansas and Missouri play next week? Does anyone on this board follow Missouri? Is the fat Kansas coach going to live through the bowls or will he have a heart attack? IS Kansas going to overtake LSU in the BCS poll tomorrow? these are the real issues, my friends.

I have Cinn +5 1/2.
Hopefully- check

Die, Four-Letter, die. I don’t want Dr. Jerry Punch talking about NASCAR in the middle of West Fuckin’ Virginia and Cincy, assholes.

jamiedawg …you are so uptight.

I have only about 3 more drinks of vodka left.

That’s a real issue.

more issues—the coaches’ domino game—-if Miles goes to Michigan, will Spurrier go to LSU? If Tuberville loses to AL, will he vacate? Does anyone else hate those At&T commercials where they work in like 50 places and dress like weirdos? annoying….

If you’d read my post @ 170, you’d see I was responding to TAFKATOSUB, who put the arbitrary 3 year barrier in there.

And none of those wins are noteworthy. Don’t give me that “they were highly ranked when we played them” BS.

Annapolis Doug…out of vodka? none in the freezer? That is a bigger problem than the tOSU-SEC fight—-can ya switch to rum or gin?

How does it feel to only score 14 on a team at the same stadium where Appy State put up 34?

Congrats, tOSU, you play in the Big 2. This year, Michigan sucked, so your conference was – you. And you still got Zooked.

Didn’t Auburn lose to Mississippi State as well?

Same record as Shula – Check.
Lost to Mississippi State – Check.
Didn’t score a TD vs Mississippi State – Check.
Lost Homecoming – Check.
4 million dollar Check.

I’ve got a enough liquor to last me thru a nuclear nightmare, but I prefer vodka. Running low.

Watch Tenn beat LSU in the SEC title game..tease the Vol Nation..lose in the BCS game…and LSU crush someone…

As an SEC fan, I’d pay to see Illini with Zook play Florida in a bowl. And root for Zook. He seems like a good guy (with hot daughters).

1. Annapolis Doug-Just teasing, buddy. It’s Saturday. But since I’m an asshole…

I play the same bass that makes your ex wet, and while I cook for a living, it’s the same ex that makes me turkey pot pie when I get home from work.

Happy Saturday, bro. It’s just a Disney blog we’re posting on, right? One of my drinking buddies took Cincy, too. Good pick, I think.

The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes still sucks ass.

Michael Crabtree just juked that OU safety so hard he’s still spinning.

That’s six for Tech pending review.

1. Annapolis Doug-I’m the only drunken Biloxi native to have one of Zook’s daughters AND Saban’s niece fix me breakfast in the same week.

The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes still sucks ass.

Since we’re joking..#195

The Weather Channel makes my ex wet.

Of course, the Big 10 network makes your mom wet.

I think Cincy can cover if they hold WVA under 31.

Considering Spurrier said on his Thursday night call-in show that he told the 2007 recruits that he’d be at Carolina when they graduate, I don’t think he’s going anywhere.

Jorge!
I’m from Pascagoula!

Funny!

you count a win over 4-win Washington as noteworthy?

and only one of those teams you mentioned finished ranked in the top 10 (Michigan last year)

and Kansas State was not in the last 3 years, nor did they finish in the top 10

Sam Bradford is now seeing those little cartoon stars around his head….ouch.

New Debate—Could the Texas High School Champion win the ACC? I say yes.

In a normal year, Alabama losing to UL Monroe would be considered the most embarrassing loss in college football. Fortunately for Tide fans, this isn’t a normal year.

Annapolis Doug-The funny thing is, no one would ever marry me. You’re at least one wife ahead!

The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes still sucks ass, and I’m afraid the SEC will be earning another MNC.

No matter how much the truth hurts, it’s still the truth.

Right, tOSU Douche?

Someday. The Big East will suck.

In a year with great, great games, this is the Saturday Night I have nothing to do? I missed the LSU-Auburn game due to a Jagr/Red Bull situation????

Now, I’m reasonably sober (.13 on the police issued breathalyzer..shooting for .20) and this?

Not even a Hawaii- SMU DirecTV channel 781 game at midnight to look forward to?

Looks like a Old School DVD night.

Someday, they will quit showing that low rent, stupid Big East commerical and this game is starting to suck…but I think Texas Tech is beating OU :)

provincialism dictates that i have the oklahoma game, and TT is BLOWING THEM OUT OF THE WATER. complete gashing. thrashing. keel-hauling.

Welcome back to the boathouse, Oklahoma.

I count a game 2,500 miles and 3 times zones away in a hostile stadium a noteworthy win. Yes. SInce Florida’s farthest travel this year is less than 800 miles, maybe you should try it.

Oh, now quality wins only count if they FINISH in the top 10. Ok got you. I guess it isn’t enough that all those teams LOST their ranking position after beating OSU.

Using the top 10 as your qualifier, who has Florida beaten in 2007? Tennessee and Kentucky won’t finish near the top 10, neither will any of your opponents except LSU who beat you.

If anyone knows of a video link of the Michigan post-game press conference, can you please post it. I would like to see what Mouthy Mike had to say. Thanks

per the Atlanta Journal-Constitution

“Richt was dressed in all black again Saturday, but it wasn’t for the reason you might think.

Richt’s size-38 khaki pants were misplaced before the game, and his backup pair was a size 36 that Richt could not squeeze into. So he had to turn to the black pair he wore during last week’s “blackout.”"

A likely story from Evil Richt

Oklahoma looks done. Oregon done.

We could have a Georgia-WVA game in New Orleans.

Is Stacey Shales single?

Yarrr! Tech is up by 20 in the second quar-tarrr!

Dickhead,

TAFKATOSUB said this:
Ohio State has lost to 4 teams in the the last 3 years. 2 National Champions, 1 12-1 Conference Champion, and a 9-3 Illinois team in what was supposed to be a rebuilding year for Ohio State.

To which I said:
Who of note has tOSU beaten during the past 3 years?

Nobody

Why the hell would someone’s ranking early in the season matter if they eventually wound up getting exposed later on and properly ranked lower once all games had been played?

I’ll admit that Florida hasn’t beaten anyone noteworthy in 2007 (except in January), but I didn’t get on here bragging about how awesome our losses over the past 3 years were.

And if I flew 2500 miles to beat up a crippled child, I wouldn’t brag about it.

So, the argument is which is worse, the conference where one team in the ‘championship’ game lost to a I-AA team and got pantsed at home to a non -conf foe, or the conference where only two teams has lost less than three games and who has a conference championship participant (so far) who has lost three games by an average of more than 25 points?

We can even throw in the conferences that lost to Notre Dame, the conference where 75% of the teams have given up 40+ points multiple times, and the conference that needed incompetent officials so their co-leader can beat Temple. Let’s face it, they’re all bad.

Me. switching to rum.

You know, as much as we all love the Dread Pirate Leach, this game has that eerie feeling of all those games they’ve blown in the last minute, where they jumped out big early, and weren’t able to hold on at the end.

Here’s to hoping the Dread Pirate has his ship in order all of the second half.

I paid to get in the game. I can say whatever I want.

GOOOOOOOOOOO RAIDERRRRRRRSSSSSS!!!!!!!

YARRRRRRRRRRRR

It isn’t tOSU’s fault they’re a dominant team and leave a trail of bodies leading up to Winner McSweatervest’s front door. With the exception of Penn State and Illinois, every team that played tOSU lost the following game.

tOSU is black porn star with an 11" cock, they ruin it for the next team.

SEC speed = one pump chump. The sheer mediocrity leaves everyone wanting more.

Travis Bell extended Chan Gailey’s job by one week.

The writing is on the wall. Chantastic! football is on the way out.

I hope we can get Paul Johnson.

1. PW- I would.

tOSU fans should shut the fuck up. Y’all baaaad bizness fah college futbah.

Really, shut the fuck up.

Clemson is about to choke to BC…………

Standing by…

Scattered thoughts:

(1) Nick Saban does not have time to game plan for shit teams like UL-Monroe.

(2) YARRRRR! I believe Leach’s boys are delivering rum, sodomy, and the lash tonight — though not necessarily in that order.

(3) A big tip of the cap to IU, which beat Purdue and will fulfill Terry Hoeppner’s goal to “play thirteen.” If you didn’t see the GameDay feature on Jane Hoeppner, I recommend it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?&brand=null&videoId=3115762&n8pe6c=1

(4) Your Miami RedHawks clinched the MAC East today while resting (they beat Akron in an old-fashioned Ohio slugfest on Wednesday), as Bowling Green knocked off Buffalo. Right thinking folks everywhere now pull for Miami to beat the livin’ hell out of Ohio U and somehow get matched up against Indiana in a bowl game.

BC’s going to the ACC title game.

That loss to Maryland looks huge now. A one-loss BC is still on the fringes of the national-title picture. A two-loss BC has nothing more to play for than the ACC title.

Still, great season for a first-year coach.

DevilGrad – I’ll root for you to beat the crap out of Ohio – but I’m gonna have to hope you can find a way to play Indiana without beating my alma mater in the MAC Championship game first

I wonder if Matt Ryan’s performance tonight earned him the vote from the Clemson heisman voters.

Oh wait…

The Dr. Pepper commercial (TD Celebration) is an insult to anyone who’s moved past the whole black face thing. What year is this?

In related news, one week ’till the Ole Miss-MSU Slave Bowl.
I mean Egg Bowl.

See ya in Dallas, Boomer Sooner.

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Things I am tired of as a Bama fan:

Rebuilding years that come back-to-back. To back. To back.
Being a program defined by losses in said rebuilding years.
Other coaches’ recruits.
Incompetent QB’s. Interceptions.
Jimmy Johns. Fumbles. On-sides kicks hitting him in the head.
Losing to Au*%#^.

Does OU’s band travel for every road game? There is not another band in the country that plays the same shit after every play like the OU band does. Damn that shit gets old after a while…and I really like OU, Stoops being from Ohio and all.

Oh, and Buckeye fans, if it isn’t obvious, we can’t change the way SEC hawks think until bowl season. No complaints, because that’s the way it should be. The conference has a pretty pitiful out of conference record this year, and it also ran the risk of our champion having lost to a D-1AA team. We have to prove it on the field. If we don’t, then we have no room to talk and referencing the Big Ten having a winning record in bowl games 10 years ago looks more and more pathetic as the years go by.

Personally, I’ll be shocked if the Big Ten walks away with a winning record, unless Michigan, Wisconsin, and Penn State all get really healthy, really fast.

#225

#)!($)#$&@(&$)# fuck )($)#&$)(*#$)(#*$

1. SH-All joking aside, y’all deserve better.

1. The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes has a point for once, but is still too big of a fuckwad to be taken seriously. Please fuck off.

YARRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

Bye, bye, Chokelahoma. No national title for you.

my god that was the most boring, eye-bleeding upset i have ever seen. neither team wanted to win. TT couldn’t get a first down in the last 10 minutes to save its life. i’m glad OU lost, but pissed i wasted my time watching that 4th quarter instead of, say, the A-Team 1st season dvd.

@231
At least OU is in the hunt for the nat’l title most every year. TCU NEVER will.

Down goes Clemson, down goes Cal. One meaningless loss, one inexplicable choke to once again narrowly dodge an ACC championship. I’m gonna drink til I can’t feel feelings.

To TAFKATOSUB in 227, yes, the one band that also travels to every game that also happens to play the same music after every play is also the one team you fear most of all this season and next – USC in the Rose Bowl!!! and the Coliseum come September 2008!
and NO it does NOT get old!

Ok, seriously, who was actually surprised by Clemson losing in the end?

HURRAY HURRAY HURRAY! WE GET FUCKED WITH OUR PANTS ON, IN TEXAS, AGAIN! This is getting really fucking absurd. Granted, at least this was just a pivital play and not the last play of the game. This is three years in a row now that a bum call has fucked the season. WOW. Well, a fucked call and a head injury. The one light at the end of the tunnel is that OU gets to avenge University of Spoiled Children if those bastards happen to beat ASU.

1. Go to a game where U.Southern Cal happens to be the road team. You will change your opinion of OU’s band on the road. The Sooner Band cannot touch that level of irritation.

1. - surprised? No. Hurt? Hell yes.

Fucking bubble screens.

#237, It’s not the USC band’s job to make friends, it’s their job to irritate the shit out of the opposition. The better that SC does on the field, the more the band will play. I suppose that’s why you’re so familiar with their routine.

serious question:

can a conference send 3 teams to BCS bowls?

and if Tennessee loses to Kentucky and UGA loses to LSU, could UF sneak into the Sugar Bowl if they beat FSU? or is that up to the good folks at Nokia/USF&G?

236 (them oklahoma)—

Yeah, you absolutely got screwed on that no-TD call. That was a catch and a touchdown. I wonder whether one of the officials was from Lubbock…

Still, you were basically screwed when Bradford went down.

239- It’s my obviously intoxicated wish that OU meets the University of Spoiled Children in the Fiesta Bowl to avenge 1984 (? could be off by a year or two), 1991, and the game of which “we” do not speak. I still think, with a qb w/out massive brain injury, that Oklahoma is one of the two best teams in the country. USuCk is not, hense a massive ass whooping. Trojan victory march song that, bitches. I’ll take redundant “Boomer Sooner” after “Boomer Sooner” all day long, and enjoy the shit out of that. At least we lost to a respectable team with a solid reason (starting qb out AND a good jobbing from the refs) as opposed to getting beaten by the Pac Ten’s version of Baylor with no apparent reasoning. Your band is still irritating, whether you win or not.

SEC JESUS CHRIST PITY PARTY YOU ALL DIE WE ALL CONTINUE LIVING!!!!

“When businessmen die, they leave money. When coaches die, we leave pieces of ourselves. Legacies.”
—Lee Corso on College Football Final

What piece of himself do you think Corso left at Indiana?

YAAAARRRRR!!!!

Wasnt Chokelahoma supposed to be the second coming of christ?

244- Anal leakage

245- Yes, yes we were. I can say we, I payed enough damn $ to get my master’s. If OU is the second coming, the Big 12 ref’s are the Romans.

I’m sure this won’t be posted, but COME ON, MAN!!!! WE aren’t too good, but we’re good enough!!! WHO in the mothrer-F’n sec can hang? Who thinks they’re decent?

We nap… you linger… boring fuckers. It is fairly obvious why you hate us… we win ball games. Jim Tressel lost one against that gimmick fucker. Probably won’t lose another. Ohio State is your future. Basketball or football. Thad says LOW D!!! LOW D!!!! Fuck yourself!!!

MAMA I’M SO OBNOXIOUS!!!!

See also the LSU Golden Band From Tigerland (for playing a predictable repetoire after every pla). Sorry bout the typos. Drunk and posting from blaackbrry from bar. Tig

248- add u. texas to that list, though I didn’t have to listen to it quite so much this year as I did last. This year was nice. Nothing’s quite as enjoyable as listening to the texas fans play along (complete with Iron Maiden style “hook’em horns” hand signal) texas fight AFTER they’ve lost the game. I chose to think of this, rather than brain injury and replay booth ref jobbing. Fucking Big 12 replay booth.

In case anyone hasn’t seen George The Bass Players blog he has a huge article on Columbus Ohio, and his posts about OSU can only be considered total obsession. Let it go bro. Let it go.

All I know is that Tebow solidified his case for the Heisman today, and the Wyattbone offense ran wild over FAMU. Now I’m kicking it to “Saturday Night Special”, and hoping that for the sake of entertainment somehow WVU meets LSU in the title game.

#249-
OU did get absolutely screwed on that call. But really, the Sooners didn’t lose the game on that play, they lost the game when they flew JP Wilson in to be the backup QB tonight. Really bad planning on Stoops’ part. Seriously, how hard is it for Bob Stoops or somebody to recruit a somewhat competent, non-retarded person to play backup QB? TT seems to have another 15 of them waiting in the wings every year and OU…freaking OU can’t have 2? This coming as a KU fan mind you. (As an aside, is it a coincidence that Bob Stoops may not be the genius he was 6 or 7 years ago without his brother, the Kool-Aid man and the Pirate Captain by his side?)

@244
Brain Cancer?

252

C’mon, that was uncalled for and disrespectful.

Hearing OU daywalker fans complain about officiating is rich. Maybe your receiver should have controlled the ball all the way to the ground.

It’s not like you guys didn’t get every call in the history of mankind before 2005. Besides, what is the definition of a Sooner? Someone who went across the line before the land rush started…a cheater. Therefore, your entire athletic department is based on cheating.

As for the Fightin’ Paper Clip Band: Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, Fuck You!

Louisiana-Monroe? Did that Junior College, that I have never heard of before, from the Sticks just beat mighty Bama? Not even LSU would schedule such a patsy!

Alabama, you have just been “Sabanized”! – a crime in most southern states!

Not a Snot: Tim Tebow became the first player in major college history with at least 20 touchdowns passing and rushing in the same season, and…

Loooogie Man: Fat Boy Weis set the record for the most snot excreted during a telecast….

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Those are DOWN CHEERS, which explains their predictability. Every 1st down yields the same tune, every second down, etc…

What’s really rich about Bama’s loss to LMAO is that Saban actually had the gall to blame Shula’s staff for the loss.

Shula’s staff beat LMAO 41-7 last year.

“Asked why his team has not improved as the season has gone on, Saban indicated there might be a hangover from the previous staff, which also directed a team that became increasingly punchless as the season went on.”

Throwin’ Shula under the bus after Saban starts 6-2. Priceless.

249 – Yeah, I guess its funny to watch fans of a team remain proud, even in defeat. I bet there werent enough OU fans hanging around the Orange Bowl to sing “Redneck Rufnek, Goddamn I’m proud to be a Sooner” when USC torched the shizzit out of them.

Yeah, 252, seriously uncalled for.

1000 cocktails for the Hoeppner family, seeing Indiana honor the legacy of Terry and becoming bowl eligible a year after their tragic loss is nothing short of amazing.

And to all you Tech fans: Thanks…

Where’s Coop? I want to taste those sweet tears. Way to Finish the Job, assholes.

Well I’ll admit this. tOSU plays good enough football not to be itself, where Alabama has a schitzophrentic QB who has a death wish and a laisse faire attitude that ususally cost the Tide 14pts a game.
Solid QB play is the deciding factor in many NCAA games and tOSU had that while it seems like all these upsets were linked to turnovers, Pick 6’s, horrible special teams play and overall flat play.
Appalachian State started these chain of events, and Texas Tech finally ended it w/ their ass whooping on Oklahoma, and the JV game that was Oregon w/out their QB…..now who goes to #1? LSU won, but Kansas is still out there undefeated….Mizzou vs Kansas looks to be the game of the year…then ASU and tOSU is still lurking….I’ll say this..Kansas plays mistake free solid ball and I think can jump on LSU and beat them, assuming they get passed Mizzou…

#224

Uh, ever heard of Chad Johnson and the “cell phone” incident.

I don’t think spoofing TD celebration dances qualifies as “blackface”.

But, then, some people just look for stuff to make them angry.

254- You obviously haven’t been watching football for any period of time prior to 2005. This is why most fans in the Big 12 hate tech fans more than most others. I can’t stand texas, but (for the most part) the ut fans are alright. Same goes for Ok State and Nebraska. But tech? No. Arrogant, uninformed, and bratty. Kind of like KState when they first started winning. As to the comment over OU getting every call prior to 2005, are you on crack? Oklahoma generaly does not get the calls that other programs of their calliber (ND, Michigan, USC, Ohio State, et al) will get. If you really think that OU’s been getting calls for decades, my comment on your lack of perspective on football stands as fact.

240: no, the limit is 2…

oklahoma @ 263

the worst thing that happened to college football was the suspension of regular meetings between nebraska and oklahoma.

until this travesty is righted, college football shall never be college football again.

“LSU backed into the NCG in 2003 and beat a conference runner-up for a share of the NC.”

Backed into by winning their last seven games and destroying Georgia in Atlanta? Ain’t no kinda backed into I’m familiar with. They went over USC because they had a higher SoS. As for winning against conference runner ups, shrug. Barry Switzer never won an MNC against anything else.

So Saban takes credit for LSU’s success and blames his team’s failures on Shula.

You got yourselves a real winner right there boys. I am so glad we have someone with class and integrity.

Hard to blame Bama too much though, they did what any failing business does when the well runs dry and the people within their organization can not produce talent and groom people from within, they go outside and buy the competitions best man, overpay for him, and hope he brings all of his clients with him.

In the business world that is considered a last stitch effort to keep things afloat. It’s usually good to keep things going for a little while, but eventually, when your organization can’t get things done the right way from the top down, it is just a matter of time before that ONE guy who you overpaid for decides to take his clients somewhere else and move on….and what are you left with???? The same failing organization you had before you overpaid for your competitions best man.

“What’s really rich about Bama’s loss to LMAO is that Saban actually had the gall to blame Shula’s staff for the loss.”

Sounds like he came close. I wonder if Alabama thinks they are on the verge of winning the SEC next year? Saban did that in his 2nd year at LSU. He’ll go to his death bed regretting that the ever left that job.

#266
Backing into the NCG happens when you start the first week of the BCS ratings at 12th and everyone in front of you loses, which is what LSU did that year. In case you forgot, it took all kinds of teams losing in order for LSU to get there. Plus K-State killed OU 35-7 in the conference championship game and Georgia barely got by Purdue 34-27 that year.

“Backing into the NCG happens when you start the first week of the BCS ratings at 12th and everyone in front of you loses, which is what LSU did that year.”

Then all teams with early losses who make it to the BCSCG “back into” it which renders the term useless. You finish with fewer losses than all but one or two other BCS representatives and you haven’t backed into anything

Hey, Florida “backed into” the game last year after losing the Auburn and ended up embarrassing you in front of the world. That’s the kind of “backed into” I can get behind as well. : )

“In case you forgot, it took all kinds of teams losing in order for LSU to get there.”

Wow, it takes other teams losing more games than you in order to make it to a championship game? Who woulda thunk it?!

It took some teams losing for Florida to have a chance to destroy OSU. Know what we call the 2006 Florida Gators? BCS National Champions.

“Plus K-State killed OU 35-7 in the conference championship game and Georgia barely got by Purdue 34-27 that year.”

In other news, the Sun is hot.

Miami played a Nebraska team in 2000/01 that didn’t even make the BTCG. Know what we call that Miami team today? BCS National Champions.

No matter how much backing up tOSU does this year, they’re not making the MNC game.

Here is the 2006 version of Alabama against ULM:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJqLlhz7Bb8

The only difference between Shula’s 2006 squad is a year of experience and a 32 million dollar upgrade in coaching.

When is everyone going to wake up and realize that LSU’s talent pool, the media, Mark Dantonio, Will Muschamp, and Jimbo Fisher made Saban what he is and without those top 3 recruiting classes and backing into a national championship game against a conference runner-up he is an average coach at best, and according to those who have worked with him, he’s not exactly the most personable guy either.

“No matter how much backing up tOSU does this year, they’re not making the MNC game.”

Hey, if Kansas goes undefeated through the BTCG, they will have “backed into” the BCSCG. Why? Because when the first BCS poll was released they were ranked 14th. They required that teams like OSU, ASU, BC and USF all lose in order to give them a shot. So, in this hypothetical, they will have beaten every team in front of them, including a couple of top tens to finish the season, and “backed into” the BCSCG.

P.S. this is not a prediction, just an illustration of humorous Ohio logic. Maybe 41-14 has addled their brains?

The 2003 LSU team started farther back in the BCS’ initial rankings than any other team in BCS history.

Doesn’t matter, the whole MNC is a joke. USC shares 1/2 of the NC that year so obviously not everyone in the country was convinced that LSU was the NC. With the system as flawed as it is we could argue all day long. The only thing we can not argue about are the teams that finish the year undefeated and beat a conference champion to win the NC.

It’s really only backing into the MNCG if you have a regular season loss and everyone in front of you loses and your loss is the prettiest of the bunch. But like I said, the system is flawed and we could argue all day long.

USC is going to get stripped of it’s MNC and a half.

Seems like Bush got paid and was on tape.

tOSU,

Did Saban kill your dog? Jesus fucking Chist. Yes, he’s an overhyped asshole. He’s also a good, not great, coach. His LSU team also did exactly what Florida did last season during the regular season. It is not their fault the system didn’t have them play USC, and they backed into nothing. Now, can you shut the fuck up?

“The 2003 LSU team started farther back in the BCS’ initial rankings than any other team in BCS history.”

Shockingly insightful. I imagine we could find a team that started back even farther in the AP poll but won that trophy then claim that they “backed into” the AP championship. In this bizarre logic, pre and mid-season estimations attain probative importance equal to the outcome of a full season of games.

“Well, they went 11-0 and won the MNC that year but they weren’t ranked very high to begin with, farther back than any team in history actually, so their championship must be estimated downward.”

Who cares where they started? Three teams had 1 loss. They were one of them. They had the strongest SoS and won their conference. They earned that spot even if you think OU didn’t.

Now I guess a team that goes 12-0 then gets crushed 41-14 might find the BCS rankings of October more important than those hoisting the trophy in January. : )

I don’t think Ohio State deserves to go to the NCG. Personally, I know we are not good enough this year. However, this is a rebuilding season, we’re breaking in a new quarterback and lost 2 first round WRs and a starting RB, not to mention 9 guys total in the draft.

I’m looking forward to the Rose bowl and our record 6th BCS bowl game. I also hope that this junior class, for once, decides to come back for a special year next year. The one thing that we have been missing since the 2002 season is the presence of a solid senior class.

“It’s really only backing into the MNCG if you have a regular season loss and everyone in front of you loses and your loss is the prettiest of the bunch. But like I said, the system is flawed and we could argue all day long.”

You mean you don’t need teams in front of you to lose in order to make it to the BCSCG if you don’t lose any games? Maybe you should have a conversation with Tommy Tubberville.

Now here’s a REAL definition of “backing into” a game. It means simply to play very poorly as you approach the game but just well enough to advance. That’s the common understanding and usage of the phrase in sports. OU backed into the 2003 game. LSU sure as heck didn’t.

Superb points Biggus and one would be hard pressed to dispute the overall burden of your comment.

However, you have no specfic knowledge whether
Saban killed TAFKTOSU’s dog. Based on what we know of his disposition it is quite likely that he has killed many dogs, TAKFOTSU’s quite possibly among them.

“Saban killed TAFKTOSU’s dog. Based on what we know of his disposition it is quite likely that he has killed many dogs, TAKFOTSU’s quite possibly among them.”

I don’t think he killed any. I do think many may have run away though.

The correct game for 2003 should have been LSU vs. USC. You are correct, OU had no business being in the NCG after getting hammered 35-7 in the conference championship game. However, there is no mistaking that LSU lost to the 20th ranked team in the country during the regular season and started way back at the beginning of the BCS standings.

My main point was really that Saban has gotten more mileage out of 1/2 of a national championship and 2 SEC titles, one of which was won with 3 conference losses and a team in his division on probation, than any other coach in the country. And the only reason he is the highest paid coach in the country is because Mal Moore had more egg on his face than the griddle at Waffle House when Rich turned the job down to return to West Virginia and there was no way he was leaving his trip to Miami without Nick Saban…those same fans that were there to molest Saban would have been their to burn Moore at the stake had he not secured Saban.

Far more likely TAFKTSU’s dog killed itself.

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prove it

Saban strikes me as more of a cat killer. The Artist Formerly Known as tOSU Buckeyes strikes me as a guy who doesn’t understand brevity and has a twisted shrine dedicated to Nick Saban.

No matter how much backing up tOSU does this year, they’re not making the MNC game.

Comment by NewAZTiger — November 18, 2007 @ 12:46 pm

You speak with such authority like you have a choice in the matter. It depends how the games play out.

In all likelihood, I think the MNC will be LSU v West Virginia.

However if the following happens, OSU will be in the hunt:

West VA loses to UConn (slim) or LSU loses to Ark (slim)
Missouri beats Kansas or Kansas beats Missouri
then Oklahoma beats the winner of Missou vs Kansas.

THere is a good probability that the Big 12 will eat itself, which would leave LSU, West VA, and OSU in the top 3.

Them Oklahoma @ 243, you seem to be harboring some anger.

I think the record you were looking for Oklahoma against USC is:

1981, UO lost 24 – 28
1982, UO lost 0 – 12
1988, UO lost 7 – 23
1991, UO lost 10 – 20
2005, UO lost 19 – 55.

Apparently if you go further back in time there’s a couple of Oklahoma wins and a tie.

As for your opinion that Oklahoma would beat USC running away, the stats say they’re pretty well matched in defensive strength vs offensive strength, loss to Stanford or not. And SC lost to Stanford because they stunk it up on the field, not because of the usual officiating excuses.

288- of course there’s a little animosity towards usc. They’re one of a few teams (others being ND and Miami) that have tended to “have OU’s #”. So, yeah, I don’t like them. The behavior of the USC coaches recently (after the ‘05 ND USC game -couple of coaches taunted the student section. I was lucky enough to have a friend with tickets) hasn’t helped. I’m not saying OU would/will dominate USC, OU has injury issues of their own now. I’m also not saying that OU didn’t just plain suck on D last night either. Tech took advantage of that tampa-2 with shuttle passes that the OU staff never seemed to really grasp. Pisses me off that a fan can see this and, if a fan can see it…a coach should A) see it and B) fix it. That’s why they’re paid a great sum of money. They’re presumed to know how to fix it and then do so. If’s and But’s suck, but there were two last night that “could” have changed the game. Bradford’s head injury and the TD that was not called. I laughed my ass off at Oregon, but now I know all too well how it feels to lose to a team (as a fan) while knowing that “your” team is actually, in reality, the better team. But back to the original point, I do want to see an OU vs. usc bowl game.

did you see the signs at ann arbor on espn Gameday?

http://footballjesus.wordpress.com/2007/11/18/best-signs-at-espn-college-gameday-ann-arbor/

What did I say? Since Jason White retir…err, graduated, Oklahoma has not had two effective QB’s on the roster, and that happens to coincide with the loss of Mike Stoops, Mike Leach, and Mark Mangino. They are a very good team still, and Bob Stoops is predicated on D, which they’ve still been pretty damn good at, it’s just that after those three left, they haven’t had the same caliber of offensive talent. (AD not withstanding). I’m aware that Leach was only there one year, but that’s 4 years worth of talent, Mangino there 3, left in ‘01, and he was known as one of the lead recruiters there and maybe not coincidentally after he left K-State to go to OU, that is when they started going downhill. Don’t ask me how Mangino is a great recruiter, he just is…no bias, look it up.

let’s move on to next weekends’ hate, shall we?….

Ala: 22 Nat’l Champships awarded by the Tooth Fairy

Auburn: Awarded something by the ear fairy

Alabama Fans: happy to have children with Waffle House waitress

Auburn Fans: Happy to name their children Waffle House ShugBoPat

Alabama Fans: Fear the next finger

Auburn Fans: not sure how to count past 5

The gauntlet is thrown

Nick Saban doesn’t have time to game plan for Louisiana Monroe.

Is anyone more obsessed with Saban than TAFKTSU? The shit is kind of getting old.

However if the following happens, OSU will be in the hunt:

West VA loses to UConn (slim) or LSU loses to Ark (slim)
Missouri beats Kansas or Kansas beats Missouri
then Oklahoma beats the winner of Missou vs Kansas.

LSU could also lose to UGA or UT, which is probably more likely to happen than them losing to Ark.

I would think they would have a harder time beating Georgia than Tennessee but my dislike for the snith Fulmer could have something to do with that.

Also yesterday you said about OSU, you count a win over 4-win Washington as noteworthy?

And I said yes I do. I also want to point out that Washington beat California yesterday who thumped Tennessee. Just saying………

that should read “the snitch Fulmer”

Would all you tosu guys please shut the fuck up? You have one title in the last 30+ years and YOU BACKED INTO IT. Had it not been for the UNIVERSALLY (outside the shithole that is Columbus) recognized WORST CALL EVER by an officiating crew, you have nothing to talk about and you are still licking Woody’s sack as the greatest coach ever. For a team with supposed history in football, you sound like a bunch of fans that has just discovered winning (YES – I AM looking at you Florida). So please, do us all a favor, and go cry on Michigan’s boards.

a win against Washington, Cal, or Tenn this season is not noteworthy. it may have seemed noteworthy at the time, but subsequent events have revealed it to be merely a win, but not a noteworthy one.

send Tebow to UA and McFadden to Florida then tell me who is the Heisman winner. all I’m saying is my guy will still have the numbers and yours will be runner up if that. GO HOGS!

Put your team out there CTLDawg. How many championships in the last 30 years?

If you don’t want to read about football discussion on an OPEN THREAD then don’t read.

You are right, OSU backed into a title. They were 14-0. Sounds like they really backed in.

Teams ranked at the top early is all based on name recognition or Kansas would have been #1 a few weeks ago. So to imply that any team not ranked high at the beginning of the season somehow backs into a title is such a dumb argument.

bnb614,

your compatriot TAFKATOSUB is the one positing that your initial BCS ranking is the determinative factor in whether or not you “backed into” the MNC.

I think CLTDawg was just applying his faulty reasoning to tOSU’s championship to show how ridiculous it was.

OK PW gotcha. I don’t think someone backs into a title. If you have 0,1, or 2 losses and make it to the title game, you deserve the win, (unless Oklahoma would have won in 2003 Sugar Bowl) ;)

Seriously, that is one of the other things that sucks about the system. Pre-season polls which have been found to be mostly inaccurate play a big deal on where you start/finish. Early season losses hurt less than late season, etc. Until we have some sort of playoff, there will always be arguments re: deserving/non-deserving.

FYI, Lloyd Carr confirmed he is retiring tomorrow.

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Not sure why you count baseball as one of the major sports. There are only two major ones nationwide (nobody up north gives a damn about baseball season because everyone’s home for the summer by the time it starts), football and basketball. Hockey is probably the third sport for most of the north – and MSU not only has won each, they’ve won each multiple times.

What a weird fucking season.

I’ll pencil LSU into the NC game, but think Georgia could beat them if they get to Atlanta (come on KY).

As for the other NC participant – The winner of Kansas-Mizzou, if they win the Big 12 Championship Game, which they have a good chance of losing. If that happens, then West Virginia? Good team, but talk about backing into a NC.

USC has stabilized and with Dixon out for the season and Brady Leaf sucking, the Ducks will probably lose again, and that means USC-ASU winner going to the Rose Bowl.

USC has put together a decent seasons, at least as decent as it could be while losing to Stanford. But, for the first time in Carroll’s tenure, they don’t have much of an indentity going into next season. Yeah, great recruting class, but it will be interesting to see if Pete sticks around and gets to the top again. To me that’s what makes legenday coaches. Many can ride one wave to the top and win a NC, but to go downhill and then climb back up again is much more impressive.

I don’t think USC will lose their MCN and a half. It’s been repeated over and over that even with Bush on tape, if the school didn’t know, they’ll keep the championships.

That said, even though I’m a USC fan, I’m not stupid enough to believe that someone at USC didn’t know. But, I also beleive that no concrete proof of that fact will be found.

@ 337

Exactly my point.

And BTW, we (UGA, how could you miss that in the spelling of the word Dawg?) have as many titles (1) in the last 30 years as tosu. As for tosu – we handed ‘em an ass beatin’ in the ‘92 bowl season (only time we played ’em). Ask Herbstreit about it, I’m SURE he remembers it.