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VIRGINIA: NOT GAY AND PROUD

Not gay, and that needs to be said if you're gonna wear that outfit.

Virginia's fight song is played to the tune of "Auld Lang Syne" and has the following lyrics:

We come from old Virginia,
Where all is bright and gay.
Let's all join hands and give a yell
For dear old UVa.

Antiquated verbiage is common enough in fight songs, but UVA students have gotten around singing the word "gay" by hollering "NOT GAY!" over the lyric when sung. This counter has drawn the ire of gay and lesbian student groups, who claim the "NOT GAY!" cheer...

"...marginalizes the gay community by creating an environment in which certain people who may or may not identify as gay do not feel welcome.”"

So there's heated student editorials ("Not gay and proud of it," by a freshman at UVA), a lot of hooting and poop-tossing going back and forth, and flyers being handed out urging people not to sing the "NOT GAY" cheer when the song is sung. The whole thing reeks of tempest-in-teapot, especially when you consider some of the other hidden antiquated or potentially offensive language in fight songs and alma maters.

For instance:

1. Advocacy of murder of outsiders.

Once two strangers climbed on rocky top,
Lookin for a moonshine still.
Strangers aint come back from rocky top,
Guess they never will.

2. Bizarre pagan bear worship, as in Cal's "Fight for California:"

Our sturdy Golden Bear,
Is watching from the skies,
Looks down upon our colors fair,
And guards us from his lair.

2. Um...intrastate mass homicide, as in Georgia Tech's "White and Gold:"

So then it's up with the White and Gold
Down with the Red and the Black
Georgia Tech is out for a victory
We'll drop our battle axe on Georgia's head, CHOP!

So, a bit of a tiff about being gay or chanting "not gay" might be the least of a university's worries, really, what with every other fight song on the planet openly and giddily pushing for the murder of an opponent. (HT: Fesser.)

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“Wahoo Wah” always sounded like some sort of odd sexual position to me anyway.

by Signal to Noise on Nov 15, 2007 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

That cavalier is kind of like Errol Flynn, who left no buckle un-swashed. And who could be more hetero than Errol Flynn?

Also, USC’s fight song doesn’t mention anyone else. Self-involved, us?

by DC Trojan on Nov 15, 2007 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

Well yeah but down here in the Bible belt justifiable murder of one’s opponent or your whore of a wife is so much more acceptable than someone daring to go outside the box (or munch box) and (gasp!) go against God’s plan.

by Sarah on Nov 15, 2007 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

Why the self-loathing, Sarah? Get your heart in Dixie, or get the hell out, sweetheart.

by RIP Logan Young on Nov 15, 2007 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

And before you leave Sarah, iron my shirt and make me a sandwich.

by Old School on Nov 15, 2007 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

No self-loathing here. Also, Georgia Tech’s little ditty doesn’t seem to rhyme or have any meter or rhythm … it makes me long for “I’m a ramblin’ wreck…” etc. At least our (UGA’s) admonishment of Tech sounds like a song.

by Sarah on Nov 15, 2007 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

Strangers ain’t come DOWN from rocky top,
RECKON they never will.

/lyrics nerd

by Oren Incandenza on Nov 15, 2007 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

Sarah,

I always thought it was God’s plan for every woman who is not sexing me to sex each other for my entertainment. Quite frankly, most of you are falling well short of grace in His eyes. Repent!

by Biggus Rickus on Nov 15, 2007 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

Just give ‘em a hotty toddy. They’ll loosen up.

by the modern gal on Nov 15, 2007 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

No comment on fight songs, other than to say that Project Runway’s new cast could have attended UVA without irony.

by Ted Ginn did Everythin' on Nov 15, 2007 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

Sarah has the biggest bug in her ass of any woman I have ever interacted with ,and I am a lawyer, thus have attended law school.

Seriously, your righteous indignation over the Confederate battle flag, fight songs, and God knows what else, I am guessing you oppose men wearing ties because they represent some phallic supremacy symbol in your mind needs to take a break.

It is a satirical site, people laugh and insult their rivals on here.

You were that girl at UGa Law who answered all the questions in Con Law or other unimportant classes like Family Law, right?

Actually, Family Law is important because I want to make sure my fiance gets none of my loot when I leave her for a woman half her age in about 25 years.

Hey, the above was a JOKE! A J-O-K-E.

Stop taking everything so seriously, and get that bug removed from your backside.

Sincerely,

If I had son, I’d tell you what he’d do
He’d yell, “to hell with Georgia” like his daddy used to do

PS: Get over yourself.

by Coop on Nov 15, 2007 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

Sarah, please stay as long as you like. Mars needs women. Plus, your encouragement of female-specific homosexuality seems to excite the men around here, who are at least fifty-one percent supportive of gay rights: fifty percent for woman on woman action, and one percent for pirate-on-pirate sex, because, well, pirates are cool and can do whatever they want because they’re pirates.

by Orson Swindle on Nov 15, 2007 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

Boomer Sooner
Boomer Sooner
Boomer Sooner
Boomer Sooner
Boomer Sooner
Boomer Sooner!!!!!!

I’m Sooner born
& Sooner bred
& when I die….
I’ll be Sooner dead.

by Heath on Nov 15, 2007 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

Is there some backstory here I’m missing, because Sarah’s posts don’t seem to merit the nastiness it’s received…

No one had a problem in the last thread with a Buckeye fan calling everyone who lived outside of the Midwest “pinko-commies,” but you’ll all jump in Sarah’s grill? ’Sup with that?

by Papa Lou BSU on Nov 15, 2007 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

Hey to my verb-tense agreement there! Thing of beauty!

by Papa Lou BSU on Nov 15, 2007 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

Only 50% in favor of woman-on-woman action? As low as that?

As for pirate sex, there’s no point in being opposed: if they want to mount the old poop-deck or plunge into the foc’sle, who’s going to stop them?

by DC Trojan on Nov 15, 2007 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

Ironically, Al Groh kind of reminds me of the disciplinarian neighbor in American Beauty.

by Chips O'Toole on Nov 15, 2007 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

DC,

O meant that the lesbian sex is good, but the other kind is not so good.

As for Sarah, go check out a game day thread. She literally gets her panties in a bunch because people fly Confederate battle flags on Gameday telecasts and other such nonsense, when we all know it is a non-issue.

The Indigo Girls message board is that way…

by Coop on Nov 15, 2007 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

@ 6

That’s one of at least half a dozen fight songs Georgia Tech has, all of which involve either drinking, pissing on U[sic]GA, or both.

by GTSteve on Nov 15, 2007 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

Wow. My apologies to all … my sarcasm doesn’t translate as well here as it does on all those evil man-hating feminist sites I usually troll during class. Plus that bug up my ass is startin’ to itch …

And Orson, I’ll make doubly sure not to direct my vitriol to pirates anytime soon. Lord knows I don’t want to ensure their wrath.

by Sarah on Nov 15, 2007 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

people fly Confederate battle flags on Gameday telecasts and other such nonsense,

Not really such a good omen considering who lost that fracas. USA! USA! USA!

by DC Trojan on Nov 15, 2007 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

Sarah,

I for one find your progressive views refreshing in this reactionary little corner of the internet.

/sucking up to the only vagina in the house

by Biggus Rickus on Nov 15, 2007 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

So if UVA isn’t gay then why were all the Maryland fans screaming it at the top of their lungs?

by Nupe in Va on Nov 15, 2007 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

Nupe,

Mary-land calling someone gay seems a little pot-and-kettley.

by Biggus Rickus on Nov 15, 2007 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

And Coop, I merely responded to Orson’s post pointing out that the GA fans were flying a Confederate flag … it’s low class and I stick by that argument. I never meant to offend your delicate sensibilities.

Seriously though, I just love college football, that’s all. And while I enjoy reading about it, my knowledge is lacking. So I usually only comment on things that I know more about … such as flags and shit.

by Sarah on Nov 15, 2007 3:50 PM EST reply actions  

True dat, Biggus. True dat!

by Nupe in Va on Nov 15, 2007 3:50 PM EST reply actions  

Sarah, how do you feel about Chevy Camaros?

by Ted Ginn did Everythin' on Nov 15, 2007 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

Sarah this . . . Sarah that . . . get your dick out of your heart!

by Never Saw Molly Hatchet on Nov 15, 2007 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

I’m not sure what all the hub-bub is about. I only recruit openly gay players.

by Al Groh on Nov 15, 2007 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t know what “get your dick out of your heart” means, but it has a nice ring.

by Biggus Rickus on Nov 15, 2007 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

As a life-long southerner and Georgia resident, I actually like what Sarah had to say.

People down here are way to scared of gay people. Makes them seem gay. (Zing!)

By the way, GT’s fight song is really gay. But that’s okay, because Tech is in Midtown. So it fits.

by Rival on Nov 15, 2007 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

I hate to defend anything Tennessee, but I think the idea behind the Rocky Top lyric is that once you experience la dolce vita of the Tennessee hills, drunk off that moonshine, you’re no longer a stranger and you’ll never leave. Not that if you come up on their land they shoot you and feed you to the pigs, a la Brick Top.

by Seven Years in Gainesville on Nov 15, 2007 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

My parents are both UVA grads, and around my house, we always add " . . . but not too gay" at the end of that line when we sing the Good Ol’ Song.

Then my mom does the Wahoo Dance, which is awesome.

by Doug on Nov 15, 2007 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

coop=mike gundy? “I’M A LAWYER!! I WENT TO LAW SCHOOL!!!”

threads like this are good; they keep me from forgetting that being an SEC football fan (and native Southerner) means being linked forever with red-faced blustering troglodytes who are terrified of women, black people or anyone who by their definition “ain’t got their heart in Dixie.”

eat shit, rednecks.

by ESMjr. on Nov 15, 2007 4:01 PM EST reply actions  

It’s one of the fundamental laws of the universe that the more emphatically a person denies being gay, the gayer they will seem. With that in mind, I think changing the song lyric is probably counterproductive.

If students are that self-conscious about the word “gay”, they should just hum the darn song.

by slap-of-WAC on Nov 15, 2007 4:01 PM EST reply actions  

My favorite song line for a school is:
F*&^k you Rocky Top, Go to hell Tennessee, you’ll never be home to meeeee….

Hey, zup with all this gay rights crap, Phil Jackson’s catching heat for his “Brokeback Mountain” comment
saying that the game had too much “penetration” and fouls in the “backcourt”,….at least Alabama hasn’t decided to make their mascot “Big Gay AL” ….yet…..
“I’m thuper, thanks for asthing”
Whats wrong in saying “I’m not gay, and I’m proud”?
All that says is I like boobs…..and motorboating..and I dont care if my shirt clashes with my eyes…I refuse to drink flirtini’s,I like a woman hairdresser and a female masseuse…and strippers who make bad choices

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 15, 2007 4:02 PM EST reply actions  

#32
+1
Nice Guy Ritchie reference…I always thought of Tennessee people as Pikers anyway, that just proves my point…..

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 15, 2007 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

Know what else is gay?
All the men going to the game wearing the same outfit of startched white dress shirt, khakis and blue/orange striped tie.

by GamecockTony on Nov 15, 2007 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

Know what else is gay?
All the men going to the game wearing the same outfit of startched white dress shirt, khakis and blue/orange striped tie.

by GamecockTony on Nov 15, 2007 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

Know what else is gay?
All the men going to the game wearing the same outfit of startched white dress shirt, khakis and blue/orange striped tie.

Comment by GamecockTony — November 15, 2007 @ 4:05 pm

So is wearing a hat with “Cocks” written on it.

Ya-buuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrnnnn!!

by Rival on Nov 15, 2007 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

Nothing’s gayer than Chief Osceola. Put him with Purdue Pete and Okie State’s mascot, and you got yourself half of the Village People.

by Orson Swindle on Nov 15, 2007 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

Now this is good.

From an opinion piece in the UVA student paper. http://www.cavalierdaily.com/CVArticle.asp?ID=31669&pid=1652

“I understand that the word “gay” in the “Good Ol’ Song” is meant to translate as happy, but why is it wrong to assert our religious and political views at the juncture, as we should be able to at any juncture?"

This kid (a UVA freshman) is so homophobic he has to stand up and yell he’s not gay when no one is calling him gay. He’ll be tapping his foot in an airport men’s room any day now.

by WDamnE on Nov 15, 2007 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

#40
Know whats gayer than that…..USCe school slogan..
Be Cocky!
When does USCw play USCe?
Does that imply all kinds of gayness in the jokes that will ensue if and when that game happens?
As for gambling, I think the Trojans will cover the ’Cocks….__________________(insert your joke here) …..its just too easy

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 15, 2007 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

  1. Biggus Rickus,

“. . . get your dick out of your heart” is straight from this heart-warming story of Hall & Oates’ evolution from “Sara Smile” to being the Boom Motherfuckers of the smooth music scene of the 70’s.

http://www.channel101.com/shows/view.php?media_id=1337

by Never Saw Molly Hatchet on Nov 15, 2007 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

I guess it wouldn’t be a complete discussion about gayness without a Yacht Rock reference.

Rock on!! But in loafers.

by Rival on Nov 15, 2007 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

#2:

And yet, I think it inspires more homicidal thoughts than any other fight song.

by Boy Howdy on Nov 15, 2007 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

33 that is soooo gay
not there is anything wrong with that
just saying

by willet on Nov 15, 2007 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

This thread is starting to remind me of the “Know how I know you’re gay?” scene from “40-Year-Old Virgin.”

by Doug on Nov 15, 2007 4:18 PM EST reply actions  

“Sara Smile” … almost as good as Jefferson Airplane’s “Sarah”. Classic songs, both.

Cocks hats will always be gay, especially when idiots buy them to wear ironically. Not amusing dude …

Oh and this is really only a comment so I can include my dorky little myspace: Coop, you seem to really dislike me, get in touch if you feel the need, hate f*cking has its merit too.

by Sarah on Nov 15, 2007 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

#41
And of course, add the Navys mascot….uh, a goat? WTF….scratch that…I thought it was a sailor, but a MF’n goat? That would be Tennessees version of the Village people..lol…a goat.on a boat..dont know where or why that is the way it is, I was in the navy and never got lonely enought to do a goat……..God how did people miss the Village people being gay???… My Grandma actually liked them til she found out they were gay, then refused to let us sing along……would actually change the channel on the eight track in the station wagon to get away from the Village People…

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 15, 2007 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

I thought they didn’t come down from rocky top because they got drunk as ballz off the shine? No?

The gayest thing about UVa is their first down cheer. Also, Terps fans are unclassy and lame.

GT needs a drinking fight song because its all we have. I got an economics degree, so I used to sing helluva financier, I think that might be the gayest, right there, if you are looking for gayness, you found it…oil me up hot stuff!

by Brian on Nov 15, 2007 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

Damn you Orson. Now I’ve got Rocky Top stuck in my head. Except I sing the alternate lyrics (Auburn version) which includes “F@ck you Rocky Top, you’ll never mean one damn thing to me!” It was doubly fun beating them the second time around in 04. What happened to my team when I’m slightly nervous about the Bama game?

by SEC Supremacist on Nov 15, 2007 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

Honestly, a South Carolina fan referring to what other schools do as gay?

Wow, just wow.

“Well yeah but down here in the Bible belt justifiable murder of one’s opponent or your whore of a wife is so much more acceptable than someone daring to go outside the box (or munch box) and (gasp!) go against God’s plan.”

The above is not sarcasm, or a bad joke. It is mere condescension, nothing more.

Again, Delta remains ready whenever you are. We can have you in Cleveland by nightfall if that is where you want to be.

by Coop on Nov 15, 2007 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

why is it wrong to assert our religious and political views at the juncture, as we should be able to at any juncture?

I’m taking tomorrow off so I can drive down to Charlottesville and heckle that pompous little fucker as he leaves classes – as I should be able to at any juncture.

by DC Trojan on Nov 15, 2007 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

Hey #48, I’ll play.

You know how I know UVA’s gay?
Because they’re scared to hear the word gay in their own damn fight song.

by WDamnE on Nov 15, 2007 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

34

Why take shit so seriously, bra?

by RIP Logan Young on Nov 15, 2007 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

All who dare impugn the unbridled, Gregory Peck-ish masculinity of Cavman shall be taken for the most brutal of mustache rides on his wax-curled nose duster.

by HooShotYa on Nov 15, 2007 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

DC, can we carpool? I have a giant black dildo I want to tease him with.

by Brian on Nov 15, 2007 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

I always enjoyed the mid-90s alternate lyrics: “rocky top, you’ll always be, second in the SEC…”

by ESMjr. on Nov 15, 2007 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

We can have you in Cleveland by nightfall if that is where you want to be.

What, the oil-lamps don’t throw enough light after dusk down that-a-way?

See, that’s condescension.

by DC Trojan on Nov 15, 2007 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

I feel I should point out that “Up With the White and Gold” is actually a song we stole from Cal after the 1929 Rose Bowl.

Cal version is the “Stanford Jonah”, which, as one might imagine, advocates the axing of Stanford’s head.

The Tech version also got sped up and dropped the “CHOP” at some point in the past 70 years. (All I know is that it was well gone by the time I enrolled in 2003.)

Anyway, I doubt anyone cares, but I though I’d throw it out there.

by asim on Nov 15, 2007 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

Nothing’s gayer than those gaaaaaaay tiger tails that every AU skank in the state has hanging out the trunk of their car.

by RIP Logan Young on Nov 15, 2007 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

DC, can we carpool? I have a giant black dildo I want to tease him with.

I guess so, but I think that’s like transporting a shotgun – you need to put that junk in the trunk.

Wait, that came out wrong….

by DC Trojan on Nov 15, 2007 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

  1. WTF?!?!?! The Village People were GAY?

by Touchdown74 on Nov 15, 2007 4:37 PM EST reply actions  

Oh you know what’s def. def. gay: UGA players with mini scooters. That’s like tickle fight gay.

by Brian on Nov 15, 2007 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

S – The Coach

Gayest bumper sticker ever.

by WDamnE on Nov 15, 2007 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

In the mean time A&M just refers to good old fashioned cattle vandalism before going straight for the crotch massage.

“Saw varsity’s horns off, saw varsity’s horns off, …yadda yadda yadda”

“varsity’s horns are sawed off, varsity’s horns are sawed off… etc… (grab your nuts and be NOT GAY!!)

by Cincy on Nov 15, 2007 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

Gay- A school which gets angry when you don’t call them by their acronym. Louisiana State anyone? We almost got into a bar fight over that one.

by SEC Supremacist on Nov 15, 2007 4:43 PM EST reply actions  

Re Orson’s comment at #12: Or, to quote the one of the funniest signature lines in the history of MHT, “Sure, I’m for gay marriage . . . but only if both chicks are really hot.”

by DevilGrad on Nov 15, 2007 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

Cal gets a mention for “Fight for California.” Cal gets another mention for “Stanford Jonah” – the original version of of Georgia Tech’s “White and Gold.” Plus there’s this little Cal song:

We’re gonna scalp you, Stanford
We’re going to scalp you blue;
We’ll do it with your tomahawk
We took from you. Rah! Rah! Rah!
All ‘round our belts we’ll hang them
To show all our friends who’s dead;
We’re gonna carve some blockheads
Whose scalps are red.

And I though Berkeley was supposed to be the champions of political correctness? Oh well …

by Nathan Cameron on Nov 15, 2007 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

56

seriously, eat shit.

by ESMjr. on Nov 15, 2007 4:48 PM EST reply actions  

Coop: Back in #18 you assumed Orson was condeming male homsexualtiy, have you never seen Orson proclaim his gayness?

I dunno why you are so threatened by Sarah, you are coming off like the neighbor in “American Beauty”

by oc phil on Nov 15, 2007 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

Just to be clear, most of the students at UVA games don’t actually say the “not gay” chant. Its a select few who do, and its usually because they’re drunk and trying to piss people off. Since the meaning of the song is completely irrelevant to sexual orientation, these people really just look like dumbasses.

by Catherine on Nov 15, 2007 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

71

I feel sorry for you.

by RIP Logan Young on Nov 15, 2007 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

And nothing’s gayer, now that I think about it, than “War Damn Eagle.”

Oooh, he said “damn!”

by RIP Logan Young on Nov 15, 2007 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

Everybody’s school is gay except mine, especially said school arch-rival, who is supergay.

by John on Nov 15, 2007 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

#34:
+1 mason jar of moonshine to you.

#49:
Technically, by that point, they were Starship (no longer having the legal right the Jefferson Airplane or Jefferson Starship names). But it’s still one of my favorite cheez-rock tunes.

Coop: Isn’t it awfully cramped and stuffy there in the closet?

by The Unorthodox Fox on Nov 15, 2007 5:03 PM EST reply actions  

76

YES!

by RIP Logan Young on Nov 15, 2007 5:05 PM EST reply actions  

#65:

Seriously, don’t go there. Flag boys who live in glass houses . . .

by Doug on Nov 15, 2007 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

You know what’s really gay? Brady Quinn.

And another thing that’s gay? When ND orders up those gay green jerseys for some big game, and then gets stomped. Actually, that’s not gay at all, but it’s funny as hell.

by RIP Logan Young on Nov 15, 2007 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

I am sure we’ll be hearing from Boi from Troi , right about nowwwww, who’s definately not gai

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 15, 2007 5:15 PM EST reply actions  

not that there’s anything wrong with that

by wvjgrad69 on Nov 15, 2007 5:23 PM EST reply actions  

Folks seem to have a gay ole’ time with those pom-poms…

by Ltrain on Nov 15, 2007 5:24 PM EST reply actions  

83:

They are shakers! Or stirrers, as the case may be.

by Tater Salad on Nov 15, 2007 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

Catherine’s right-
Almost no one says “not gay” anymore (though the VPI game will be my first this season; maybe it’s back).

Also, I always thought the “strangers” in Rocky Top were tax officials trying to enforce the liquor taxes, and that the implication was that they were murdered in cold blood for trying to enforce the law (taxes being one of the main reasons for distilling moonshine at home to begin with). I understand that this is considered good behavior in the deep dirty dirty, where they root against the United States when they watch civil war movies.

by now_a_hoo on Nov 15, 2007 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

Ramblin’ Wreck is far superior, an ode to drinking and profanity if there ever was one.

I’m a Ramblin’ Wreck from Georgia Tech
And A Helluva Engineer
A Helluva Helluva Helluva Helluva Helluva Hell of an Engineer
Like all the jolly good fellows
I drink my whiskey clear
I’m a Ramblin’ Wreck from Georgia Tech
And A Helluva Engineer

Oh, If I Had a Daughter, Sir!
I’d dress her in White and Gold.
And put her on the campus
to cheer the brave and bold! (new version: to raise the ratio)
But, if I had a son, sir, I’d tell you what he’d do.
He would yell TO HELL WITH GEORGIA
Like his daddy used to do.

Oh if I had a barrel of rum and sugar three thousand pounds
A college bell to put it in.
A clapper to stir it around.
I’d drink to all the good fellows………who come from far and near.
I’m a Ramblin’ Gamblin’ HELL OF AN ENGINEER!

by Techie on Nov 15, 2007 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

a: i think they meant gay as the was it was formerly used, as in “happy.”
b: i know for a fact that a is correct.
c: flying confederate battle flags and football: IT’S WHAT THE SOUTH DOES.
d: having only read about 40 of the above posts, it seems to me that we’ve gotten distracted from the main issue here:

FLORIDA HAS THE WORST FIGHT SONG IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. the orange and blue is the lamest, most generic, pointless, random jumble of old-school college generalizations that has EVER existed. WE DON’T HAVE FLAGS

sorry. i just hate our fight song. i’m re-working it.

by Cameron Siggs on Nov 15, 2007 5:53 PM EST reply actions  

in fact, i remembered that i had written one about a year ago. here are the lyrics as they should be sung forever and ever by the gator nation.

Let’s give a yell for the Orange and Blue,
Fighting Forever.
We are the Pride of Old Florida,
May we lose never!
Up on your feet for the Team Today,
Fight for the Gator Way!
On to the Goal
We’ll Fight our Way for
Flor-I-Da!

by Cameron Siggs on Nov 15, 2007 5:55 PM EST reply actions  

Revised UF fight song: (sung to god bless america)

God Bless Florida,
State that I love.
Stand beside her, and guide her
In a fight with a knife in ‘da Club
From the grape fruit, to the grannies,
To the oceans, white with foam (that line I’ll keep)
God bless Florida, My home sweet home.

by Brian on Nov 15, 2007 6:06 PM EST reply actions  

fwiw…all fight songs are pretty gay. go ahead…break down your school’s fight song…GAY!!! they’re only cool when you have jim beam coursing through your veins and your school has just hung 7 on some team you hate with every fiber of your being. a fight song in any other context than that is gay.

by gerry dorsey on Nov 15, 2007 6:07 PM EST reply actions  

#85: That’s what I’ve always understood Rocky Top to mean. Speaking of…what’s up with this verse?

Once there was a girl on rocky top,
Half bear the other half cat.
Wild as a mink, sweet as soda pop,
I still dream about that.

Is this some sort of bizarre hillbilly Island of Dr. Moreau?

by This Is Your Captain Speaking on Nov 15, 2007 6:12 PM EST reply actions  

I have to agree with gerry dorsey that fight songs are gay in general. Exceptions being Notre Dame’s, Michigan’s, (begrudgingly) Georgia Tech’s and USC’s sounds good, though I have no idea what the words are.

by Biggus Rickus on Nov 15, 2007 6:20 PM EST reply actions  

All fight songs are gay. Period. Not as gay as writing LOL after something you type, but pretty gay. ELOHEL.

by Brian O'Blivion on Nov 15, 2007 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

Brian O,

I contend that writing LOL in any context is gay. lol

by Biggus Rickus on Nov 15, 2007 6:29 PM EST reply actions  

Biggus, take solace that you’re going to lay 30+ pts. on us next week……………………………

Grrrrrr.

by Techie on Nov 15, 2007 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

Techie,

Nah, you’ll play an inspired game and we’ll eke out a 20-16 win largely because your QB sucks.

by Biggus Rickus on Nov 15, 2007 6:52 PM EST reply actions  

All fight songs are G-A-Y but Georgia’s cause the Battle Hymn of the Republic is so steadfastly straight by design … yet fab-u-lous. Glory, Glory bitches.

by Sarah on Nov 15, 2007 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

time for the token:

UVA is gay. anyone who feels the need to scream NOT GAY is gay.

that’s science.

also, i though that phil jackson’s comment was fucking hilarious.

by adam (the gay one) on Nov 15, 2007 6:58 PM EST reply actions  

That good old song of Wah-hoo-wah,
We ‘ll sing it o ’er and o ’er.
It cheers our hearts and warms our blood
To hear them shout and roar.
We come from Old Virginia,
Where all is bright and NOT GAY.
Let’s all join hands and give a yell,
For the dear old UVa.
Wah-hoo-wah,
Wah-hoo-wah.
Uni-v, Virginia,
Hoo-rah-ray,
Hoo-rah-ray,
Ray! Ray! U-V-A!

courtesy of theSabre.com, bitches.

fuck political correctness, and go hoos go.

by John on Nov 15, 2007 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

If Tebow would go ahead and admit he is gay, it would do a lot for the Rainbow Coalition in Florida, and may even convert a few more fans that are on the fence, maybe even Mike Shula….12 hours at a recruits house? I’m just sayin……

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 15, 2007 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

All anybody knows of USC’s song is…

Fight on for USC
Our men fight on
to victory
fight on

and then just recombine the various fragments of that until the band stops playing

The best use of a conferderate flag that I’ve seen was on a bumper sticker. It said “You Lost. Get over it”.

The Phil Jackson “story” just points out how scared and silly people get with the fear of offending anybody these days.

by oc phil on Nov 15, 2007 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

The comment section was always so much more enjoyable when Pickens county (home of clemson university) didn’t have the internet…

by Will on Nov 15, 2007 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

Again, Delta remains ready whenever you are. We can have you in Cleveland by nightfall if that is where you want to be.

Hey, fucker, we don’t count Ohio as part of the North. You can have it.

by wilbur on Nov 15, 2007 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

Man, I’m pissed I missed this thread today.

Coop don’t forget you orange overall wearing turd burglar, that Deliverance was shot only 35 minutes from Clemson’s campus.

by Out of Conference on Nov 15, 2007 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

  1. Did you just offer to hate-fuck someone? Cause god damn, I didn’t realize there were benefits to being a complete asshole…

by wilbur on Nov 15, 2007 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

Wilbur – I’m drunk — very very drunk and have been for a couple hours. It’s almost time for Thanksgiving break and no class for the students round these parts … so yeah, hate fucking is just an amusing distraction. Coop hates women though so I’m thinking he’s want to go all anal – not a-okay.

by Sarah on Nov 15, 2007 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

It could be that coop just wants to perform a missionary hate fuck, which is redundant. Anal hate fucks seem kinda gay. Yeah, call back. Mic dropped.

by Biggus Rickus on Nov 15, 2007 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

wow, I thought thanksgiving was NEXT week. I was once at a college that gave a week off, but I didn’t know anybody got more than that.

Sarah has definitely upped the titilation factor around here today.

by oc phil on Nov 15, 2007 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

Mike Bronson wonders what they would write if the fans yelled, “Not fags.” Seriously, if Mike Bronson were not infatuated with the possiblilites presented by Eastern European mail order poon and found himself queered out, the chance to catch the Hoos in venerable Scott Stadium would pale in comparison to the chance to re-decorate Mike Bronson’s grandmother’s house while listening to some old Cher L.P.’s. Mike Bronson thinks these kids need to rediscover sodomy and shut their whining pieholes.

by Mike Bronson on Nov 15, 2007 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

A sad, pathetic peek into my world: refreshing this thread repeatedly (obvs) … watching tonight’s 30 Rock again on Tivo … killing that 6-pack of Sweetwater Blue … thinking of ways to be funnier. We only get 3 days off, yes. But since no real work is done from here on out till next Monday the 26th, I’ve been drunk as shit since 4 pm. GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wildcats can suck it!

by Sarah on Nov 15, 2007 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

Read the quote from one of the “student leaders” in that article: http://insidehighered.com/news/2007/11/15/virginia . Actually, don’t. It’s the same long-winded, unrealistic, self-important bullshit I got used to at UVA. “not gay” doesn’t even make sense in the song, it’s not clever. But when this little crusade popped up every other year, it made me want to run into the visitors section and lay down some hate speech. As long as 19 year old girls are telling media how “we’re going to stop this”, it’s going to stay around. It’s called spite.

And UVA is rainbow gay. Pink polos – nuff said.

by cavalum on Nov 15, 2007 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

#42

You have a problem with the UVA student making a point to proclaim he’s gay?

I suppose you also have a problem with raging flamers in a gay pride parade walking down the street proclaiming their flaming gayness at the top of their lungs with ridiculously gay slogans? Just sayin.

Next thing we know, Fred and Barney will be proclaimed gay because of the last line in their theme song.

by Jim Grizzle on Nov 16, 2007 2:34 AM EST reply actions  

This thread has inspired me into posting, and also to acknowledging that a major step to getting engaged should be to have your girlfriend exist in these comment threads for a year and see what she’s like.

Sarah, 5 points for you, girl.

by Junts on Nov 16, 2007 4:18 AM EST reply actions  

sarah,

to insert a link to your myspace page, only to have said myspace page set to private is just bad form. and to top it all off, the profile pic would indicate there may be something to look at. color me (and a few hundred other dudes on here) disappointed.

by gerry dorsey on Nov 16, 2007 7:55 AM EST reply actions  

#109

Did you read the link to the UVA opinion letter? The student isn’t proclaiming he IS gay, he’s proclaiming he’s NOT gay. That’s the whole subject of the blog story.

by WDamnE on Nov 16, 2007 8:32 AM EST reply actions  

I like sweetwater blue. and 420. Delicious.

by Brian on Nov 16, 2007 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

Seven Years in Gainesville:

I think the Cooperhead Road sect of the Tennessee fanbase would disagree.

Otherwise, it is so nice to see the open channels of academia alive and well at Virginia (and this site). Jefferson would be so proud.

by Kenny on Nov 16, 2007 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

  1. - that’s good knowledge. As an Old Blue, I appreciate it.

The various scalping references in the song you quote are due to Stanfurd’s mascot — pre-PC, they used to be the Indians. They someone down on the Farm got a bug up they ass and they turned themselves into a f**king tree. Sorry, Cardinal. Whatever. They’re both gay. Yes, a gay tree. Gay as the west wind. Queer as a three dollar bill.

by Pappy Waldorf on Nov 16, 2007 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

Lest we forget, Coop is also the one always trying to tell other men what they should or should not wear to football games.

by Mr. Wrong on Nov 16, 2007 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

The Good Ole Song is the alma mater, not the fight song.

Setting aside that issue, I prefer to yell “Tech’s Gay” in reference to our neighbors down at VPI. While the word “Tech” when used in the ACC more properly refers to Georgia Tech, “VPI’s Gay” is too many syllables.

by Rich on Nov 17, 2007 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

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