VIRGINIA: NOT GAY AND PROUD
Virginia’s fight song is played to the tune of “Auld Lang Syne” and has the following lyrics:
We come from old Virginia,
Where all is bright and gay.
Let’s all join hands and give a yell
For dear old UVa.
Antiquated verbiage is common enough in fight songs, but UVA students have gotten around singing the word “gay” by hollering “NOT GAY!” over the lyric when sung. This counter has drawn the ire of gay and lesbian student groups, who claim the “NOT GAY!” cheer…
“…marginalizes the gay community by creating an environment in which certain people who may or may not identify as gay do not feel welcome.””
So there’s heated student editorials (”Not gay and proud of it,” by a freshman at UVA), a lot of hooting and poop-tossing going back and forth, and flyers being handed out urging people not to sing the “NOT GAY” cheer when the song is sung. The whole thing reeks of tempest-in-teapot, especially when you consider some of the other hidden antiquated or potentially offensive language in fight songs and alma maters.
For instance:
1. Advocacy of murder of outsiders.
Once two strangers climbed on rocky top,
Lookin for a moonshine still.
Strangers aint come back from rocky top,
Guess they never will.
2. Bizarre pagan bear worship, as in Cal’s “Fight for California:”
Our sturdy Golden Bear,
Is watching from the skies,
Looks down upon our colors fair,
And guards us from his lair.
2. Um…intrastate mass homicide, as in Georgia Tech’s “White and Gold:”
So then it’s up with the White and Gold
Down with the Red and the Black
Georgia Tech is out for a victory
We’ll drop our battle axe on Georgia’s head, CHOP!
So, a bit of a tiff about being gay or chanting “not gay” might be the least of a university’s worries, really, what with every other fight song on the planet openly and giddily pushing for the murder of an opponent. (HT: Fesser.)












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The Good Ole Song is the alma mater, not the fight song.
Setting aside that issue, I prefer to yell “Tech’s Gay” in reference to our neighbors down at VPI. While the word “Tech” when used in the ACC more properly refers to Georgia Tech, “VPI’s Gay” is too many syllables.
Comment by Rich — November 17, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
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Lest we forget, Coop is also the one always trying to tell other men what they should or should not wear to football games.
Comment by Mr. Wrong — November 16, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
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#70 - that’s good knowledge. As an Old Blue, I appreciate it.
The various scalping references in the song you quote are due to Stanfurd’s mascot — pre-PC, they used to be the Indians. They someone down on the Farm got a bug up they ass and they turned themselves into a f**king tree. Sorry, Cardinal. Whatever. They’re both gay. Yes, a gay tree. Gay as the west wind. Queer as a three dollar bill.
Comment by Pappy Waldorf — November 16, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
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Seven Years in Gainesville:
I think the Cooperhead Road sect of the Tennessee fanbase would disagree.
Otherwise, it is so nice to see the open channels of academia alive and well at Virginia (and this site). Jefferson would be so proud.
Comment by Kenny — November 16, 2007 @ 1:56 pm
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I like sweetwater blue. and 420. Delicious.
Comment by Brian — November 16, 2007 @ 9:15 am
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#109
Did you read the link to the UVA opinion letter? The student isn’t proclaiming he IS gay, he’s proclaiming he’s NOT gay. That’s the whole subject of the blog story.
Comment by WDamnE — November 16, 2007 @ 8:32 am
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sarah,
to insert a link to your myspace page, only to have said myspace page set to private is just bad form. and to top it all off, the profile pic would indicate there may be something to look at. color me (and a few hundred other dudes on here) disappointed.
Comment by gerry dorsey — November 16, 2007 @ 7:55 am
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This thread has inspired me into posting, and also to acknowledging that a major step to getting engaged should be to have your girlfriend exist in these comment threads for a year and see what she’s like.
Sarah, 5 points for you, girl.
Comment by Junts — November 16, 2007 @ 4:18 am
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#42
You have a problem with the UVA student making a point to proclaim he’s gay?
I suppose you also have a problem with raging flamers in a gay pride parade walking down the street proclaiming their flaming gayness at the top of their lungs with ridiculously gay slogans? Just sayin.
Next thing we know, Fred and Barney will be proclaimed gay because of the last line in their theme song.
Comment by Jim Grizzle — November 16, 2007 @ 2:34 am
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Read the quote from one of the “student leaders” in that article: http://insidehighered.com/news/2007/11/15/virginia . Actually, don’t. It’s the same long-winded, unrealistic, self-important bullshit I got used to at UVA. “not gay” doesn’t even make sense in the song, it’s not clever. But when this little crusade popped up every other year, it made me want to run into the visitors section and lay down some hate speech. As long as 19 year old girls are telling media how “we’re going to stop this”, it’s going to stay around. It’s called spite.
And UVA is rainbow gay. Pink polos - nuff said.
Comment by cavalum — November 15, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
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A sad, pathetic peek into my world: refreshing this thread repeatedly (obvs) … watching tonight’s 30 Rock again on Tivo … killing that 6-pack of Sweetwater Blue … thinking of ways to be funnier. We only get 3 days off, yes. But since no real work is done from here on out till next Monday the 26th, I’ve been drunk as shit since 4 pm. GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wildcats can suck it!
Comment by Sarah — November 15, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
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Mike Bronson wonders what they would write if the fans yelled, “Not fags.” Seriously, if Mike Bronson were not infatuated with the possiblilites presented by Eastern European mail order poon and found himself queered out, the chance to catch the Hoos in venerable Scott Stadium would pale in comparison to the chance to re-decorate Mike Bronson’s grandmother’s house while listening to some old Cher L.P.’s. Mike Bronson thinks these kids need to rediscover sodomy and shut their whining pieholes.
Comment by Mike Bronson — November 15, 2007 @ 9:48 pm
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wow, I thought thanksgiving was NEXT week. I was once at a college that gave a week off, but I didn’t know anybody got more than that.
Sarah has definitely upped the titilation factor around here today.
Comment by oc phil — November 15, 2007 @ 9:44 pm
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It could be that coop just wants to perform a missionary hate fuck, which is redundant. Anal hate fucks seem kinda gay. Yeah, call back. Mic dropped.
Comment by Biggus Rickus — November 15, 2007 @ 9:35 pm
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Wilbur - I’m drunk — very very drunk and have been for a couple hours. It’s almost time for Thanksgiving break and no class for the students round these parts … so yeah, hate fucking is just an amusing distraction. Coop hates women though so I’m thinking he’s want to go all anal - not a-okay.
Comment by Sarah — November 15, 2007 @ 9:02 pm
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#49- Did you just offer to hate-fuck someone? Cause god damn, I didn’t realize there were benefits to being a complete asshole…
Comment by wilbur — November 15, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
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Man, I’m pissed I missed this thread today.
Coop don’t forget you orange overall wearing turd burglar, that Deliverance was shot only 35 minutes from Clemson’s campus.
Comment by Out of Conference — November 15, 2007 @ 8:50 pm
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Again, Delta remains ready whenever you are. We can have you in Cleveland by nightfall if that is where you want to be.
Hey, fucker, we don’t count Ohio as part of the North. You can have it.
Comment by wilbur — November 15, 2007 @ 8:28 pm
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The comment section was always so much more enjoyable when Pickens county (home of clemson university) didn’t have the internet…
Comment by Will — November 15, 2007 @ 8:07 pm
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All anybody knows of USC’s song is…
Fight on for USC
Our men fight on
to victory
fight on
and then just recombine the various fragments of that until the band stops playing
The best use of a conferderate flag that I’ve seen was on a bumper sticker. It said “You Lost. Get over it”.
The Phil Jackson “story” just points out how scared and silly people get with the fear of offending anybody these days.
Comment by oc phil — November 15, 2007 @ 7:54 pm