TALKING BABIES ARE DISTURBING

Tommie Frazier and Turner Gill scoff at your run-first quarterback’s Heisman campaign.

Welcome to second place for life, Tebow.

Even though that’s all true, it can’t hide the lameness.

fucking creepiness.

If we based awards on stats alone, the fact that Dixon is putting up his numbers in the defense-challenged Pac 10 and Tebow is putting up better ones in the SEC, where defenses chew nails with their titanium teeth and eat tires like licorice, should give Tebow a clear edge.

Wow. Brilliant.

PW—we would be the first to suggest that that is not true this year. The SEC’s featured quite a few fifty point conference games for offenses thanks to some hefty draft casualties. The Pac-10 has better d’s at this point.

sorry Orson, I can’t hear you. I’m too busy listening to whatever bands were popular in 2003.

What a smarmy little creep.

For those who weren’t creeped out enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgeDh1WCyeM

Some years, too, the Heisman becomes a career achievement award for what you have done in previous years, even if the year you won the award wasn’t your best season, and probably should have gone to someone else….maybe a diminuitive one man offensive show based in Atlanta?

See: Dayne, Ron

Better check that kids head for 6’s.

OK, I’m back with statistics.

The SEC has 8 of the top 50 defenses in the nation in terms of total defense. The Pac 10 only has 5 (including #47 and #49).

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/stats/2007/divia/team/total_defense_byDFNSYDS_PER_GAME.html

Granted, Tebow only beat one of those 8 teams, lost to 3 of them, doesn’t play against 3 of them, and plays for the other one, whereas Dixon beat all 4 he faced (including Michigan, who is #30) and has 3 more of them remaining.

Still, the SEC has better defenses.

sorry, forgot to close my italicizer

Unfortunately for Dixon, he doesn’t get to play against my defense at South Carolina.

Nice Snake reference, you sir are a scholar!

Said it before, and I’ll say it again:

Tebow=A-Rod.

Pretty numbers, no wins. (Only this would work better if A-Rod was like a back-up 3rd baseman on the Yankees in 2000 or something)

Timmy Tebags will suffer the same fate that befell Rex Gross-man and Dan Marinaro during there own astounding sophomore seasons. Voters will say “Oh, he’s just a soph, we can’t give it to him because then he’ll wind up winning it three years in a row!” And then of course they win none.
With at least three more games to play, Baby/Blue Rhino is far and away the best player in college football this season. It is silly and sad of anyone to argue otherwise. All he’s done is carried his team to within 19 points of an undefeated season and top ranking. A team with no reliable running back and a porous, to say the least, defense. In the SEC. With everyone knowing exactly what he is going to do on every third and short. He has been unstoppable.
Has anyone ever racked up 3,000 passing and 1,000 rushing? Because he might do that, along with 60 touchdowns accounted for. In the SEC.
End transmission.

If they didn’t give it to MARSHALL FUCKING FAULK as a sophomore, they ain’t giving it to Tebow.

That was the Gino Torretta year, by the way.

Jason White. Jason freaking White won the Heisman. The Heisman has since been rendered as meaningful as a Grammy.

At least A-Rod has the opportunity to play defense and stop the opposing team from scoring. Tebow only gets to produce at the plate.

Can we all admit it’s ill advised to argue statistics with a talking baby?

What 18 & 19 said.

Well, I would have no problem with Tebow winning the award, but if it is about stats, then Graham Harrell’s are pretty good. So are Mike Crabtree’s. Oh, but it is the system, right? Well, Tebow’s can be accounted for due to a system as well. All I know is that as talented as he is, he really has no defining march it down the field comeback win. Come to think of it, UF as a whole is really pretty much a front-running team. Maybe that is what is making voters take pause. Just like a Ken doll, his stats are buff, but when it comes to something to grab ahold of, there is nothing but plastic.

Ranking total defenses between two different conferences makes little to no sense. Very few games considered are played out of the conference. So your defensive rankings are compiled vs the same conference.

I would argue that SEC defense this year is about as good as Pac-10 defense, but the best D in the country is probably USC. Dixon played pretty damn good against them.

A lot of people will point out that Dixon has future 1st rounder Jonathon Stewart to hand the ball off to. Well, he is also minus his #1 AND #2 wideouts and is still hummin along.

His passing stats would be better than Tebows if he had guys who got open and caught the ball. And minus Stewart his running stats are better.

But the bottom line is that Dixon is equally important to his 1 loss national title contender squad as Tebow is to his “best X loss team in the nation, where X is increasing by week.”

And a senior, this doesn’t hurt.

#7

And even if you still think the defensive stats differentiate the conferences, your stats are wrong.

You used yards/game. This takes into account how well your offense keeps the other defense on the field and it also takes into account how often teams run the ball, shortening the game.

Shockingly, in the SEC they run the ball more than the Pac-10.

What you should’ve used is yards per play.

By that count, in the top 50 there are 7 SEC “super awesome tire eating” defenses and 6 defensively challenged Pac-10 defenses.

Adjusting for the fact that there are 12 teams in the SEC ups the Pac-10 number to 7.2 compared to the SEC’s 7…

So that puts the Pac-10 ever so slightly in front of the SEC. So don’t use the SEC D argument please.

There are more hippies in California, Oregon, and Washington than there are in the south, and those hippies have been run over roughshod by the Oil Companies and Big Corp.

We have tougher Defenses in the SEC.

CHEWBACCA.

After watching that stupid fucking video, I assume that even stupid Baptist Rat Fucks would argue for a woman’s right to choose.

Of course, women should really never have a say in anything. Maybe they should get started on dinner, instead. Holly and I are hungry.

#4

Are we talking about the SEC defense that let Cal score 45 points, Bama 41, and Florida 59 on it this year (Tenn)? Or the one that allowed West Virginia 31 in the first fricking quarter and a half (MSU)? Maybe you are referring to the one that let Mizzu stack up yardage and 38 points? Nah, you must be speaking of the one that let Kent State rush for 320 yards (Kentucky).

Florida has hung 59, 30, 51, 45, and 49 on SEC defenses. They’ve also had 42 hung on them once this year.

Or are you doing the same thing that every SEC fan does, pick the best attribute of the best team in the conference and make it symbolize the entire conference….see Steve Spurrier’s Gators when he brought the fun and gun, and yes, speed, to the SEC.

December 9th: 12:02AM

Dennis Dixon: Damn, I can’t sleep.

Ghost of Heismans Past: It’s OK, Dennis, it’s OK. These things happen. People know you were great. You had a great career. You’ll win the NC.

Dennis Dixon: It was that damn talking baby, wasn’t it.

Ghost of Heisman s Past: You’d better believe it.

1. - You’ve been Zooked.

And while college football fans tend not to be as endearingly anal about numbers as the baseball crazies, there are some…

So, for the record:

Dixon has played in one less game at this point.
Dixon’s completion percentage is a shade better (67.9% to Tebow’s 67.8%).
Dixon had better not have 20+ rushing touchdowns, else that means
we didn’t get Stewart in the game, or Crenshawe in the game, and
opposing defenses had to watch only one guy.
Dixon has thrown only 3 interceptions to Tebow’s 5 (and really, only 1 genuine bad throw – 1 was a tip and the other was a Hail Mary with a second left before half-time for the fun of it).

The last tis really key.

Good decisions, good decisions, good decisions.

Unbelievable consistency, drive after drive. Mistake free football.

It wins games. It wins games.

It’s going to win Oregon a National Championship, if they can keep it up.

It WINS games. Period. Nothing else quite soothes the soul, now, does it.

http://www.sundaymorningqb.com/story/2007/11/14/10837/936

Now there’s a guy with a sound head on his shoulders.

OK, I realize I’m just pacing the electronic halls here, waiting for
the next most important game we’ll ever play (this week). I must
have something better to do than roam around the national sports
cyber corridors engaging in a pedantic statistical argument orgy.

This is so not me!!!

Heaven help us if we compete for the NC and the Heisman race every year.

#30

You are basically staring at the cold hard numbers that show the SEC as not having fantastic defense this year and saying “Hmm, the SEC always has good defense! That couldn’t possibly change!”

Sounds like the same thing I heard last year. Except no one is laughing about the team speed in the SEC. We saw how that turned out in the MNC game. I watched the OSU-Penn St. game and Joe Pa’s team looked like they were in slo-mo. The Heisman is mostly BS.

I’m personally pulling for Dixon to win, as this would lay him open fo rthe curse of the Heisman, as in win the Heisman, then look like road kill in the National Championship game. Kind of like Jason White or Troy Smith.

Despite my SEC homerism, Dixon gets it. The award will keep the Ducks at #2 despite Oklahoma pantsing previously undefeated Kansas in their conf CG (& bring on the curse for Dixon.) Tebow’s media blowjob and lofty stats are a double-edged sword. He IS Florida’s offense & at least 2 of their 3 HUGE conf losses lay on HIS doorstep. You can’t lose those games & claim the Heisman with a straight face or clear conscience.

If you can’t stand Tebow now, wait until next year when the Gators drop Auburn from the schedule and catch LSU in Gainsville. Tebow walks off with the award and goes pro. Thank God.

Gamedaytribe,
Certainly not trying to hate on Dixon- the guy’s awesome. Have only seen him play thrice this season though. Have seen every UF game except Georgia (I know, blasphemous- some heathen scheduled a wedding for that day) and I don’t know where or when you could say Teeb has made anything other than good decisions. Unless it was Timmy who decided that Khestan Moore should keep fumbling, or that Percy Harvin and Corny Ingram should get like zero touches against Auburn, or that the defense take the cocktail part of the Georgia game literally.
And of his 5 interceptions (in ten games!) two were off receiver-deflected passes and one was the result of Riley Copper inexplicably breaking off his route to a perfectly thrown ball.
What the hell am I doing, arguing Heisman in the discussion of a day old blog post? Christ I’m pathetic.

An overhyped award with vague, often arbitrary criteria where the winner often follows with a career of underachievement, if not profound failure. Heisman or the Oscar…you be the judge.

The Heisman curse has always led to a defeat in recent years in the MNC game…..(see Gino Torretta and Miami….1992) So if Dixon wins it, he is guaranteed to get throttled in MNC game….

Moving on, the latter part of the Heisman Trophy curse is as follows: if you win the Heisman Trophy and you are on a team who will play for the national championship, you are going to lose the game. This part of the supposed curse is harder to disprove. Since the BCS was implemented in 1998, Heisman Trophy winners have played in 3 of the 6 games, all of them being quarterbacks (Jason White, Eric Crouch, and Chris Weinke), and all 3 of their teams lost in the championship by more than a touchdown. In fact, they all tend to play very poorly. The best example of this is in 2000, when Chris Weinke and the high-powered Florida State Seminole offense could not even move the ball, much less put a single offensive point on the board in the Orange Bowl, which was won 13-2 by the Oklahoma Sooners and their Heisman Trophy runner-up quarterback Josh Heuple.

This curse goes beyond recent BCS history as well. In fact, if you win the Heisman Trophy and play for the Miami Hurricanes, you are destined to lose the championship game. Miami’s 2 Heisman Trophy winners, Vinny Testaverde (1986) and Gino Torretta (1992) both lost the national championships. In the last 20 years, only Danny Wuerffel (1996) has won the national championship game after winning the Heisman Trophy. That year, Wuerffel’s Florida Gators beat their in-state rival Florida State Seminoles in the Sugar Bowl. This curse is not confined to championship games only. In the past 30 years, Heisman Trophy winners have lost more than half of the bowl games they played in, not just the national championship game. He may end up like Jason White…..hometown insurance rep……with a Heisman on his desk…….

Does blowing his knee out count as blowing his Heisman chances?

I winced when I saw it happen. Knees aren’t made to bend like that.