BLOGPOLL: ENDGAME EDITION
The Blogpoll gets closer and closer to something resembling actual knowledge. We submit our draft for customer review. Give us constructive criticism and receive another blogpoll ballot tomorrow, plus an invitation to get a taste of Swindle Ass Ham, the connoisseur’s meat of choice.
Clarifications, addenda, and further invitations to ass-kissing follow.
| Rank | Team | Delta |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | LSU | 1 |
| 2 | Oregon | 1 |
| 3 | Oklahoma | 2 |
| 4 | Kansas | — |
| 5 | West Virginia | 2 |
| 6 | Missouri | — |
| 7 | Ohio State | 6 |
| 8 | Georgia | 3 |
| 9 | Arizona State | — |
| 10 | Virginia Tech | 3 |
| 11 | Texas | 4 |
| 12 | Southern Cal | — |
| 13 | Virginia | 3 |
| 14 | Clemson | 4 |
| 15 | Florida | 4 |
| 16 | Boise State | 5 |
| 17 | Tennessee | 9 |
| 18 | Illinois | 8 |
| 19 | Boston College | 9 |
| 20 | Cincinnati | 6 |
| 21 | Kentucky | 5 |
| 22 | Wisconsin | 4 |
| 23 | Connecticut | 15 |
| 24 | South Florida | — |
| 25 | Brigham Young | 1 |
LSU gets the nod over Oregon because they are more talented and do not have the injuries at wideout and running back that the Ducks have. Oh, and Glenn Dorsey’s a gravitational hole in the middle of the defense. We’re trying to avoid pitting the two teams head to head and playing out the matchup in our heads simply because that’s not what this is about at this point–it’s about absolute value. LSU’s just deeper across the board, and has played marginally tougher competition. It’s a call on the margins, but we’re making it. Disagreements may be lodged below; in return, see prior offer of ass ham.
Ohio State falls because tOSU still can’t defend a spread offense with good to great talent working against its defense. (wa-HAIII!!! See that good to great modifier, motherfucker! Taking the Northwestern card right out of your hands. The lotus does not fight the wind, nor does the dragon fear fire! wa-HAIIII!!!) They’re still very, very good, but they ain’t peaking, and that will get you Black Diamond sailing downhill quickly at the end of the year.
Plus look at any of the teams above them and consider their level of play, the general trend, and their over all record: is Ohio State playing above any of them right now? We don’t think so, and thus the nine spot for the Buckeyes.
You don’t get anywhere in this conference without Chan Gailey’s approval. The ACC teams are knotted up in the low teens, but the real deciding factor putting Virginia Tech at the Frank Beamer Event Horizon of the tenth rank (where Va Tech always seems to end up) is their flexilicious victory over FSU at home and the fact that they beat Georgia Tech, indicating that they are not potentially horrible. Virginia and Clemson both lost to the Tryptophan Man himself, Chan Gailey, meaning they can, from time to time, play horrible, horrible football.
Virginia Tech has only played one horrible game, and that was against this week’s current number one.
Florida’s below both of them because the secondary is still capable of bursting into flame at any instant. Do not stare directly at them, as intense attention may cause uncontrollable blazes that last for up to four hours. It’s a liability that has been proven to be too much for even the touchdown-chomping Tebow Smash! attack to overcome.
The rest is a complete mess, but give Illinois some cuddles and another tip to BYU for winning their last six games by a combined score of 190-89. They’ll beat the shit out of another hapless, unsuspecting bowl opponent this year again…like UCLA, for example? That’s got Karl Dorrell written all over it with Sharpie.
No Hawaii. If they beat Boise, we’ll rank them. Until then, they’re out.

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Coop says:
UVa beat Tech. The Hoos’ losses came to Wyoming and State.
Clemson should be ranked higher than UVa, blowout in the Orange Bowl notwithstanding, but otherwise, I am okay with your poll.
November 13th, 2007 at 12:32 pm
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Bobby Decatur says:
No complaints…..relatively inoffensive, actually. Unlike the thought of a taste of Swindle Ass Ham.
November 13th, 2007 at 12:37 pm
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Gentleman Masher says:
I’d be insulted to be accused of losing to the Chandito…but, he somehow has a mind-trap on Tommy Bowden.
Not that it’s too difficult. Hi-yo!!!
November 13th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
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Coop says:
Tommy is 3-3 versus Chan, which is probably par for the course with every other program in the ACC, given that Tech basically goes 7-5 every year, and 4-4 in conference play, with Tech’s other annual loss going to the Dawgs.
November 13th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
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Dave says:
Penn State wins and gets dropped? WTF?
November 13th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
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Erik says:
Yeah, tougher competition like fucking LaTech.
Horseshit.
November 13th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
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Clemson327 says:
Tommy also owns the only two blowouts in the series.
November 13th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
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Brian says:
Kansas is undefeated and won at Colorado. Oklahoma has one loss – at Colorado.
How can you possibly think Kansas should be ranked behind the Sooners?
November 13th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
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Brian says:
I think maybe Michigan should be ranked instead of USF or maybe BYU.
November 13th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
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BCAPPS says:
Virginia beat GT. It was another one of their close ones, but whatever.
Get your facts straight.
November 13th, 2007 at 2:18 pm
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PW says:
nine spot for the Buckeyes?
November 13th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
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Edsall is God says:
Can someone explain to me the love for Boise and the hatred for Hawaii? They’ve played very similar schedules, beat Fresno about the same and had an overtime game to deal with on ESPN (SJSU for Hawaii and Nevada for Boise). Yet Boise is getting all this love, despite LOSING to Washington for heaven’s sake, and Hawaii is getting crapped on. I have no stake in Hawaii but, man, is it their fault teams like Nebraska & Michigan balked at playing them?
I hope Hawaii goes to the Sugar Bowl and beats an SEC team. Hawaii has the guts to play Florida next year, had the guts to go to Alabama last year and would be willing to play the big boys but the big boys are scared. Give Hawaii a chance. It’s the American Dream!!!
November 13th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
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Mergz says:
Ranking unbeaten Kansas behind once beaten Oklahoma, who in turn lost to a team Kansas beat (with both occuring on the road), is obviously part of your Faustian deal with the big-you-know-who down below.
Take comfort though, I hear they have beer down there. Granted, its Olde English, but it is beer.
November 13th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
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Allahver Fist says:
Edsall, it might not be ‘guts’. Have you considered that the Hawaii players may want to get off that filthy island and relax in Florida’s sub-tropical paradise?
November 13th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
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Ron Zook says:
I’m still a terrible coach. And I lost to Michigan at home. You shouldn’t rank my team ahead of them. Go Blue.
November 13th, 2007 at 3:06 pm
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UgasTexan says:
# 8 and 12: It’s pretty obvious why OU is ranked ahead of KU. KU’s best wins are vs Central Michigan (6-5) and Texas A&M (6-5). Those are the only two teams with winning records which KU has defeated.
On the other hand, OU has wins over Texas (9-2) and Missouri (9-1), as well as Tulsa (7-4) and the aforementioned Ags (6-5). I say their wins over more competitive teams outweighs the one road loss to CU.
In fact, I’d go one farther and say that MU should be ranked higher than KU at this point given their better wins versus [team redacted] (8-3), Texas Tech (7-4) and, again, everyone’s punching bag, A&M. Not to mention that they competed pretty well with Oklahoma.
I’d go something more like OU #3, MU #5 (sandwiching WVU) and put KU at #7 behind Ohio State. But that’s just me.
November 13th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
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Bobby Decatur says:
Blame it on the Pike House, #5.
November 13th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
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TechDawg86 says:
I’ve seen both Hawaii and Boise play this year, and Boise is far and away the better team. I was not impressed by Hawaii at all. Good offense, horrendous defense. Of course, both teams struggled with La. Tech for most of the game (if Tech converts a 2-pt try in the first OT, Hawaii loses in Ruston; a turnover deep in Boise territory and a big play shortly thereafter made it a 14-point lead for BSU instead of a tie ballgame, also in Ruston). Neither are deserving of a BCS bid, IMO, but as a Tech fan, I want to see one of them go so Tech might could slip into a bowl at 6-6.
November 13th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
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Edsall is God says:
13 – That doesn’t explain the trip to Alabama.
I also don’t understand why big teams don’t like going to Hawaii. Who cares if you lose?? It’s Hawaii!! I remember Lou Holtz taking an ND team out there in the early 90’s…the Irish looked like they were playing the Pro Bowl, they cared so little.
November 13th, 2007 at 3:30 pm
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them oklahoma says:
To those questioning why OU is ranked higher than Kansas, the answer is rather simple. Oklahoma would kick KU’s ass….if it’s in Norman. If they were to play in Lawrence, which they won’t this year, it might be a ten point win. This Oklahoma team is odd. When they pull the collective head out of their ass, they could post 50 on anyone and hold anyone under 14. Problem is, they’re not always playing like they’ve got a pair. Stoops is much more in pre-Sugar Bowl LSU debacle spirits (ie, he actually cracks jokes in the press conf.’s), so it could be that whatever the problem may have been or is has been largely negated. Honestly, I don’t know why OU isn’t in the argument of who’s #1 (or KU for that matter) between UO and LSU. Taking away the one time slip-ups of the three, I think you could argue for UO and OU ahead of LSU. Lester will eventually find a way to lose despite his talent, he’s been trying hard enough all year long. The other two, and KU as well, have shown just as much this year in terms of talent. Ranking the team’s qbs, you could put LSU dead last.
November 13th, 2007 at 3:34 pm
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Bay Area Bear says:
You’re right: BYU would indeed beat UCLA in a bowl….
too bad UCLA isn’t going to one.
5-5, last 2 games against Oregon and USC.
November 13th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
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john says:
16 – wasn’t the trip to alabama part of a home / home with the tide when they were suspended from postseason play? didn’t they schedule a home/home with hawaii so the suspended team could at least get to go to hawaii? am i wrong? are there any alabama fans that can shed some light on this after they get off their sisters?
November 13th, 2007 at 3:38 pm
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john says:
16 – wasn’t the trip to alabama part of a home / home with the tide when they were suspended from postseason play? didn’t bama schedule a home/home with hawaii so the suspended team could at least get to go to hawaii? am i wrong? are there any alabama fans that can shed some light on this after they’re done humping their sisters?
November 13th, 2007 at 3:39 pm
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john says:
poopin server
November 13th, 2007 at 3:45 pm
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Allahver Fist says:
Edsall, damnnit, you’ve obviously never been to Gulf Shores.
November 13th, 2007 at 3:45 pm
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marcillac says:
Invitation makes one reluctant to offer approbation, but offer such one must.
1) Obviously, agree on LSU/Oregon as well as the particulars of the assessment and the margin.
2) Agree fully with keeping Hawaii out but EiG makes an excellent point that perhaps BSU is getting a little excess love.
3) Perhaps Illinois and Tennessee should be a little higher. Really impressive win v. tOSU and Tennessee, while abysmal in the losses is stacking up some nice wins, to wit: Georgia, Arkansas – holding DMac down, and even at MSU (huh?!?).
4) Both should be somewher ahead of UVa. The beat down in the OB is random and, one suspects, not to meaningful, the remaining wins very sketchy and the offense just horrid.
November 13th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
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fattus says:
#11 regarding hawaii:
if you do a breakdown of common opponents between BSU and Hawaii the edge goes to Boise State, but it is pretty close (I have one from before saturday but haven’t factored in utah state and fresno yet). also the same old mantra applies: lose early if you are going to lose.
Boise State improves week by week on both sides of the ball. Hawaii seems like they are in cruise control, but you can’t really blame them since their schedule didn’t really start until last week.
November 13th, 2007 at 5:09 pm
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Dave says:
Why are the one-loss Big 12 teams and Georgia ahead of only-loss-was-to-#2 Oregon Arizona State? Or Ohio State, for that matter, given that football’s not transitive (so the MO beat IL who beat tOSU doesn’t fly). Why’s Oklahoma ahead of West Virginia?
I’d bug you about LSU over Oregon, but as a Florida fan you can’t help falling under the influence of the SEC superiority cult.
November 13th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
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rocco says:
to further help homeboy’s point out up there, hawaii beat arizona state in their bowl game last year. they bomb away, and nobody, NOBODY wants to play them, because every coach in the league knows that at any point in any game, Hawaii can put it in the end zone real fast.
You give LSU the SEC edge again? Please, plase. Start paying attention to your utter failures at non conference games. the SEC has an inconsistent freak of nature in Tebow, and a mind blowingly redneck hick coach at LSU. that’s it. your (yes this website has a slight SEC bias) 2-6 teams, whoever those are, don’t blow out 2-6 in the Big 10 this season, much less the Pac 10. we’ve seen flashes from Georgia and Kentucky and Bama, but only briefly. Nobody has looked consistently more dominant than Ohio State, that’s just the fact of the matter. I don’t like them or respect their schedule – that’s just boring honesty. The fact that nobody has a clue as to how to dilineate the top 25, that 3-loss teams are ahead of undefeated teams, etc., shows that NOBODY can claim a dominant conference this year. The only thing the SEC undeniably dominates at is acts of incest in the crowd.
speaking of incest, the big 12’s loaded presence in the top 10 is a result of more incest (and they’re breathing down your 9-year old’s neck in that dept). It’s got to stop. Bring the strength of schedule factor back! As much as i hate the castrating big 12 and the ridiculous Kansas debacle and the implications of that for our sport and future scheduling, the only team worthy of claiming #1 is Missouri, who beat illinois and an SEC team that has put some scares in that division. We’re talking about a NAtional ranking here boys. Only a handful of teams even scheduled a decent non-conference schedule (huskies and irish…)
Ole Miss has hung around on some close games and will shock LSU. Kansas is done for now, Ducks will flounder against O. State, and other OSU will lose another at Michigan, the virginias will all flounder yet again, and tennessee won’t let georgia in. yeah that’s right – Trojans who win out and finish 2 losses will play and beat the Big 12 in the national championship bitches.
November 13th, 2007 at 6:00 pm
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SD SMP says:
Arizona State has lost 1 game to the #2 team in the country, but gets jumped by a Georgia team with two losses, one to an unranked team, and the other to a team that got smoked by Cal, who ASU in turn beat.
Illogical SEC homerism. . . check!
November 13th, 2007 at 8:21 pm
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Maje says:
Spread offense does not equal zone read triple option. Should probably look up the difference.
November 13th, 2007 at 10:44 pm
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gamedaytribe says:
Oregon over LSU? Kneejerk, dudes, kneejerk.
I don’t expect the folks on this side of the country (the density of Orson’s Florida fanhood would cause the time space continuum to curve around Gainesville, I imagine, which is where I picture this point in cyberspace) to get this right.
Here’s an Oregonian sports reporter on the LSU versus Oregon strengh of schedules:
http://blog.oregonlive.com/ducks/2007/11/juggernaut_schedule_lsu_um_no.html
For a good team, they’ve been lucky more than good, and gotten by on a wing and a prayer far too much for a National Championship contender. National champions should separate a little more – and I’d be on my fiftieth Maalox bottle had I been an LSU fan.
Oregon has a far better quarterback, better head coach, better offensive coordinator, better running back, better time management, better game strategy, better defensive backs and better leadership.
Oregon has the fifth best Red Zone defense in the nation. The defense is not without flaws, they take risks and sacrifice yards for strategic gain. But statistically they look worse than they are – mostly because we pull out our first string so often in 4th quarter garbage time – so some padded numbers there. They’ve faced a stern test in USC, who were hands down better athletes – bigger, faster, stronger. Oregon relies on finesse, speed and skill to beat the greater physical talent frequently on the other side of the ball.
LSU has no significant weak spot, is a balanced team, plays with heart and does not give up. Flynn just doesn’t have quite the judgement and maturity that Dixon does, and that’s where the key difference comes in – better decision-making by the Oregon quarterback and coaches. The LSU kids deserve a better coach, I think. All that gambling and counting on luck will catch up with ya eventually.
Great game, either way.
So don’t, football voters, don’t, please, please for the love of God don’t f*ck it up and screw over Oregon once again, and leave them out of the NC. Please. If there’s any justice in the world. Either way, I’m going to need that Maalox.
November 13th, 2007 at 10:50 pm
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mattp8498 says:
Penn State 38
Wisconsin 7
Brigham Young? A 3 loss South Florida? Come on…
November 13th, 2007 at 11:20 pm
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Chuck D says:
Obviously several people have already called you out for somehow confusing NC State’s victory over UVA as somehow belonging to Chan’s Ramblin Wreck. Just curious if you intended any kind of response to your error or if you are just gonna roll with it?
November 14th, 2007 at 12:56 am
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Harleyman says:
I really like it. I think you have it this week and reguardless of who is one or two the most important thing is that the two best teams will be playing for a NC.
November 14th, 2007 at 8:35 am
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UgasTexan says:
#29: You’ll get your answer on Sept. 20, 2008. Just like Clemson. Just like Boise State. Just like Oklahoma State.
Just remember, it’s always better to lose early.
November 14th, 2007 at 9:14 am
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dethwing says:
Yeah, UCLA would lose to BYU. Too bad we won’t see that game.
Oh wait, we already did. UCLA beat BYU 27-17. It’s one the Cougers two losses.
November 14th, 2007 at 9:25 am
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Bob Zuppke Lives says:
Ranking UVA ahead of Illinois makes no sense. Virginia’s two losses are terrible (to NC State and Wyoming, ranked #57 and #82, respectively, in Sagarin) and they have only one credible Top 20 win (a one-point home victory over UConn) all season.
Illinois, on the other hand, has one poor loss (to Iowa, ranked #63 in Sagarin) and two highly credible ones (to Missouri and Michigan.) In addition, Illinois is 1-1 v. top-ten teams (OSU; Missouri) and 2-1 v. #10-30 teams. It beat Wisconsin when the Badgers were #5 and Penn State when the Lions were #21. Their play against #1 tOSU on the road was nearly flawless.
Virginia has nothing remotely so impressive on its CV this season.
November 14th, 2007 at 9:28 am
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fresh says:
Coach Croom say if Mississippi State ain’t ranked after beating Arkansas this weekend, he gonna come here and crash your new server with the sweet sting of his voice.
November 14th, 2007 at 9:56 am
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zlionsfan says:
#22-24: games at Hawaii don’t count against the 12+CC max, so it could simply have been a one-game deal.
November 14th, 2007 at 5:10 pm