CARR TO ANNOUNCE RETIREMENT
I’m out. Kiss my ass.For three sources to all say the same thing in information-stingy Ann Arbor is a strong indicator of actual reality here: Lloyd Carr will announce his retirement Monday following the Ohio State game.
Set Miles in motion, as he’s got to at least be on the priority list of coaches to face. Also page Tedford and knock the dust off the desks in the Michigan football offices, since none of them will be staying under a new regime. Cue a piqued Tressel, who has to be curious what rough beast/retread/tyro/NFL refugee will fall into possession of the Most Despised Opposing Headset.
And exit Carr, who leaves with a national title, a clean record on program probation, and a reputation as giving the least predictable halftime interviews ever: refusing to divulge even a hint of information about injury, hugging Suzy Shuster after a brief quote, or ripping Todd Harris after being asked “a stupid question” about Michigan’s conservative play at the half. Carr was a curmudgeon off his meds during a game, railing at kid-speckled lawns, clueless linebackers, and staring icily onto the field as the clock wore down on victories or losses–either way it worked, Carr stayed entertainingly crotchety to the end.
What else will we miss about Lloyd Carr? Not much, really. He never manifested much of himself outside the locker room, though there were flashes of a charming personality and giving man. He never changed much, which was great! Michigan stayed on an even keel during his tenure no matter what happened. He never changed much, which sucked! His offenses clung to the same plays, he stayed loyal to assistants when their schemes were going rancid on the field, and generally gave Michigan football at its worst a dirge-like flavor of ancient obstinacy mixed with joyless, plodding tactics.
We love writing career obits of the glowing sort, and would like to write one here: a coach with a 121-38 record and a national title deserves that. It’s hard to do with Carr, though, both because of his personal elusiveness and the pattern of disappointment and near-miss flirtation with national titles and wins against Ohio State that marked the last five years of his tenure. (Hey, they did win Big Ten titles in ‘03 and ‘04.) It’s counterintuitive–writing about someone so successful should be like breathing. Yet with Carr, there’s a difficulty in this, especially given how tired Michigan fans are of losing bowl games to teams who coach rings around their “rock-throwing” coaching staff. It’s time for him to go, and without a trace of sentiment, tears, or nostalgia.
Not that Lloyd gives a shit what we, you, or Daniel Dennett thinks of any of this. He’s done, and you can kiss his ass. He’s off to coach rugby in Australia with BFF Russell Crowe. Whoever takes over the Durmstrang Institute of Football Studies now–that’s the story from here on out. It’s never too early to start tracking planes, people. That’s what the FAA and flight manifests were invented for in the first place.












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Loyal to LLoyd
A class old school act. A true Bo pupil. Will be missed., if he doesn’t stick around as a mentor as Bo did
Comment by Nor Notnerb — November 15, 2007 @ 9:54 am
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Lloyd will be missed. For those of you who only know Carr from clips of him on the sidelines chewing up refs and spitting them out, it is understandable that you do not understand our feelings for the guy. He is smart, loyal, protective of his players; an overall class act. Our sport needs men like Lloyd Carr.
Comment by scott — November 14, 2007 @ 8:48 am
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Big Ten blows.
Comment by everyotherconference — November 13, 2007 @ 6:06 pm
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“…I was proud to have Lloyd as my head coach was his refusal to campaign for a spot in the MNC game last year, even after Urban Meyer’s relentless politicking and Bernie Machen’s machinations. Old school till the end…you’ll be missed.”
Yes…Yes…at least there will always be THAT! …and oh 41-14 too!
Comment by Alagator — November 13, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
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Carr did deserve much of the criticism for Michigan’s poor performances and his unwillingness to “modernize” in certain areas and be more creative.
But, he was a good guy that ran his program with integrity and he should be recongized for that.
This is a HUGE job opening. Should be an interesting search. Of course, it may not be that interesting the focus is primarily on Les Miles and he accepts.
Comment by D-nice — November 13, 2007 @ 3:29 pm
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And I’m not sure what this “mediocrity†is of which you speak. Yes, you guys have gotten the best of us lately, but we have a winning record vs Ohio State all-time, the longest active streak of consecutive bowl appearances, and Lloyd has the 7th-highest active winning percentage in Division I-A. That’s hardly mediocre.
Seriously no one cares about your victories in 1894 that gives you 17 more wins. In the last 40 years? OSU is 18-20-2 vs Michigan.
And even more seriously, no on cares about your consecutive bowl appearances in the Poinsettia Bowl. 6 wins is all that is required to make a bowl game. Michigan has been to 11 straight bowl games including 3 Citrus Bowls, an Outback Bowl, and a Alamo Bowl. Impressive!
And LLLLLoyd’s 7th highest active winning %? Since 1995, Lloyd has gone 113-36 at Michigan. In that same time period. OSU has gone 119-32, and Florida has gone 118-34.
So throw around the stats and enjoy continued mediocrity. Next year when OSU is playing USC out of conference, you’ll be playing Utah. Nice work keeping that winning % up.
Comment by bnb614 — November 13, 2007 @ 2:27 pm
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I love how the OSU fans are dropping the “we own you” card. Funny how their memory only spans 5 years.
Comment by Scalz1 — November 13, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
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#33 obviously you are not a true Tiger fan or you would know that Miles played and coached under Bo Schembechler at Michigan and has a clause in his contract that would require him to pay LSU $1.25 million if he leaves for Ann Arbor before his contract expires in 2011. If he goes to any other school, there is no buyout penalty.
Why would that even exist if the question had not been raised? Of course Miles wants to eventually go back to UM. And I say let him. do you really think he has coached us to no. 1? come on, we are winning on our talent in spite of our coach.
Comment by Harleyman — November 13, 2007 @ 11:38 am
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You gotta love shit talking from a fan of a team that was ranked #5 in the pre-season, expected to compete for a national title, and got beat by Appy State (and paid them $60,000 to do it) and then got shelled by Oregon to start the season 0-2. Talk about a sting.
I guess irrational shit talking is all you have when you are used to mediocrity.
Good luck in your December bowl game this year.
Oregon is good. They would wipe the floor with Ohio State if the two ever played. Good thing Illinois (Oregon lite?) already eliminated the embarrassment from taking place.
And I’m not sure what this “mediocrity” is of which you speak. Yes, you guys have gotten the best of us lately, but we have a winning record vs Ohio State all-time, the longest active streak of consecutive bowl appearances, and Lloyd has the 7th-highest active winning percentage in Division I-A. That’s hardly mediocre.
Comment by notthequarterback — November 13, 2007 @ 11:35 am
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Good point Orson. Here’s hoping Michigan doesn’t hire somebody similar to Charlie Weis with huge name recognition and starts talking about how they “are back,” before they prove anything.
As an OSU fan, as fun as that would be to enjoy, any discussion about overhyped, trainwreck programs in the media should be entirely focused on the Irish.
Comment by bnb614 — November 13, 2007 @ 11:29 am
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In February 1997, I began a one year tour in the Republic of Korea. I was not happy about it since just six months prior I had been assured I needn’t worry about an assignment to Korea since I was stationed at Fort Bragg. Sometimes, the US government and the Army lie. This meant a year away from my wife with little to do besides work long hours, lift weights, and drink entirely too much alcohol all while enduring Korea’s significant smog problem, insanely congested traffic and at times bizarre culture.
One of the few bright spots during this exile was Saturday. I took a train down to Seoul to hang out with friends. We played football on the on the baseball fields then drank heavily until the Armed Forces Network began broadcasting college football games. The games were usually live and at that point it was actually very early Sunday morning. The football continued until it was time for breakfast.
What I got to see that season was the team I root for go undefeated. I got to see them play defense that bordered on cruelty. I got to see my team field an athlete so good he won an award normally reserved for quarterbacks, tailbacks, and wideouts despite being a cornerback (yeah, the punt returns and receptions did help with that). For once, the team I rooted for didn’t blow it and ended up with a share of that Mythical National Championship, something Michigan hadn’t done in a half century. It certainly wasn’t the best year of my life and there were many moments of lonely—generally drunken—frustration, but watching Michigan win and win and win was what can only be described as a morale booster.
For that, Lloyd Carr has my eternal gratitude. He may not be a perfect coach—no one is—and certainly isn’t a shiny new thing in a world enamored by shiny new things, but I will miss him and wish him nothing but the best whenever he does choose to retire.
Comment by BaggyPantsDevil — November 13, 2007 @ 11:18 am
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All I know is, we went into Champaign without one Michael Hart and beat a team that just beat you in your backyard. That has to sting.
You gotta love shit talking from a fan of a team that was ranked #5 in the pre-season, expected to compete for a national title, and got beat by Appy State (and paid them $60,000 to do it) and then got shelled by Oregon to start the season 0-2. Talk about a sting.
I guess irrational shit talking is all you have when you are used to mediocrity.
Good luck in your December bowl game this year.
Comment by bnb614 — November 13, 2007 @ 11:16 am
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The sentiment among Michigan fans is pretty consistent: We both love Lloyd as a Michigan Man and an ambassador of the program and will consider ourselves lucky if we get a new coach with those qualities half as great as Lloyd Carr’s. Seriously. He’s that highly regarded. We also want him to go. We realize that the game has passed him by, it is certainly time to step down, and his accomplishments on and off the field have earned him the right to coach until he wants to retire. It’s humble of him to realize that the time is now.
Comment by Jeremy — November 13, 2007 @ 10:58 am
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He may be all of those things. However, we don’t know how much Michigan will actually miss him.
This depends in large part to the eptitude/ineptitude of his successor, of course.
Comment by Orson Swindle — November 13, 2007 @ 10:01 am