CARR TO ANNOUNCE RETIREMENT

Looks like my tigers can get ride of Les Miles!

Hate to see you llllleave Llllloyd

Hey, at least he was the muse for some good blogging.

Carr will still be lurking at Michigan ready to scowl at players, fans, recruits, faculty, small children and pregnant women.

“and knock the dust off the desks in the Michigan football offices, since none of them will be staying under a new regime”

Don’t be so sure. Carr negotiated an extra year for all of his assistants already, and there has been statements that he will have a job in the Athletic Department afterwards.

I seem to remember NC basketball keeping the assistants when there was a HC change, and I would not be surprised to see no major changeover in staff. That would ease the recruiting difficulties that generally ensue when there is turnover.

But more importantly I disagree with this “It’s time for him to go, and without a trace of sentiment, tears, or nostalgia.” That may be accurate from Atlanta, but isn’t up in Michigan.

Carr took over a program that was teetering. Bo had retired 5 years ago and Moeller had just embarrassed himself in a drunken rampage in a restaraunt. Michigan could have gone the way of Alabama, ND, USC, etc. and had a complete fall from grace. But within 3 years, Carr led Michigan to a national title (or 1/2 to avoid arguments). He has won multiple conference championships, he does significant charity work for a children’s hospital, and while somewhat of a curmudgeon he has not embarrassed UM.

Regardless, I will miss him.

things are about to get interesting around the country as these jobs open up. who’s going where and why???

It’s time for a change in Wolverine Country.

Michigan hasn’t played good football for a long time—we can’t beat anyone that isn’t worse on paper than we are. Good teams don’t struggle with App State, Eastern Michigan, Minnesota or Northwestern. The humiliation from earlier this year was coming for a long time.

There’s a million reasons repeated ad nauseum, but the current staff is consistently taking top recruiting classes and getting not top results. Look at Michigan and tOSU’s players. Michigan just looks softer and slower. God, I’m ranting.

I’m certain that Lloyd is a great guy and the anecdotal evidence from the Schembechler compound bears that out. However, Orson’s right. Despite the outstanding results if viewed on paper, most fans feel like we realistically should have accomplished much more.

Michigan needs something new. Obviously, there probably isn’t a Bob Stoops level coach out there, but Schiano or even Tedford could probably do wonders with our facilities and talent base. Like all fans, I revere Bo and all he and his understudies has done since 1969 for what had become a mediocre program; but it’s time to move into this century, get faster, and start whacking I-AA teams.

All that said, I want him to go out a winner by beating the Bucks and winning a Rose Bowl—both of which would shoot holes in the rant I just made.

It’s for the kittens.

Perhaps there won’t be wholesale changes on the coaching staff, but there should be a partial change over. It’s rather odd that the latest wrinkle in college football on offense (the spread option) is damning to this team and the offensive play calling at times can be reluctant to challenge. I’d at least swap out the QBs/WRs coach and maybe a defensive assistant coach or two.

No truth to the rumor that Rich Brooks thinks sending an updated resume to Ann Arbor is bullshit.

Allow me to the first to put this out there:

The man Michigan needs to hire is from outside their historic program. He is an avaid recruiter, passionate about the game, and unafraid of risks. He will bring amazing talent back to Ann Arbor and build championship worthy teams. With his courage and bravado and the talent he will draw, he could usher in a new age at Michigan. His offenses will be intense and attacking and up-tempo and his defenses will play with a blood-thurst unlike any seen since Ann Arbor’s last championship.

That man . . . is Ron Zook.

Hear me out, I know you are laughing at first. “He’s coaching Illinois!” “He’s already a hero there!” “His Gators were flawed and poorly coached and only won when he left!”. All plausable reasons for him not going. But imagine a Ron Zook Michigan team. It’d be a trainwreck of awesomeness.

The Zooker vs. CheesyPants McSweaterVest.

That’s canned whoop-ass, right there, ladies & gentlemen.

(btw, this is all bull, I thought it’d be fun to post though)

People who know Michigan football, know Lloyd is not the curmudgeon he’s made out to be. He just doesn’t like talking to stupid sideline reporters who always want injury info and stupid reporters who ask stupid questions. Lloyd was funny and genuine. He was old school and classy and he will be missed.

Steven Orr Spurrier to LSU…Mark it down…….
Man I love this SEC shit

Carr gets a bum rap if you ask me. He puts good to very good teams on the field most years and his bowl losses are never embarrassing. Texas beat them in an up and down game and USC didn’t annihilate them last year. He hasn’t done particularly well against Tressel, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Michigan suffers a bit of a slide under the next coach. People fail to appreciate consistently competent teams. And I’m not talking a competent 8-4 but rather regularly winning 10 games.

Well the Michigan bookstore can count on the sale of 1 size small Hat next week. Yea, its capitalized. Fear it.

I’d have a scotch with Lloyd Carr. It’s hard to admire a guy from up that way, but he’s had a good run up there.

For the sake of my team, I hope Chan Gailey starts looking for a house in the Ann Arbor area.

What Masked and Zone said.

Godspeed, Lloyd. The national title was great, the Big Ten titles awesome as well…but one of the biggest reasons I was proud to have Lloyd as my head coach was his refusal to campaign for a spot in the MNC game last year, even after Urban Meyer’s relentless politicking and Bernie Machen’s machinations. Old school till the end…you’ll be missed.

here’s how i envision his retirment speech:

“ladies and gentlemen, there’s no more kittens in that bucket. thank you.”

…exit stage left

and if michigan was smart (which my ND degree mandates i point out that they’re not), they’d hire an offensive genius the likes of which the big slow, white televen has never seen….

mike leach

yarrr bitches

Michigan needs something new? Then, Michigan needs Bill Callahan. Enjoy.

sniffle sniffle sniffle

I guess those of us down here in Columbus may not know what to do with the shrines we’ve built for that fellow.

I guess he won’t get another chance to throw a foul mouthed temper tantrum directed at Lisa Salters, only to storm out of the interview room again.

We love ya LLLLLoyd!

I can’t wait for ESPN.com to not give credit to a blog for reporting rumors of Lloyd Carr leaving.

It’s definitely time for Lloyd to go, but the class with which he represented the program, and the success he brought to it, even in light of the disappointment in his last few years, certainly warrants some sentiment, tears, and nostalgia.

Orson,

As a Michigan alum and fan, and assuming this retirement rumor is true, I would like to see you (an independent, third party observer, who is actually knowledgable and intelligent when it comes to college football) rank the upcoming coaching vacancies in order of preference and/or prestiege.

I would think that Michigan is the most desirable vacancy out there, but I may be (probably am) biased, and there may be pit-falls that I don’t see (for example, 7-5 would be an improvement at Nebraska, whereas it would get you tarred and feathered in Ann Arbor).

Just some vacancies (or probable vacancies) that I can think of:

Michigan
Texas A&M
Nebraska
UCLA
Penn State (hypothetical – how do you kill the undead?)
FSU (see Penn State disclaimer)
Arkansas
LSU (if Miles goes to Michigan)

As a Michigan fan growing up, I always like Lloyd. So if this is true thanks for the good times.

Still do not think Les Miles goes there, I don’t even think Michigan is interested. But like most things dealing with college football, I will be wrong.

Word on the street is that they’ll be going after Weis.

1. — Take FSU off that list. Bowden is in talks to extend his contract, and it looks like he’s going to get it.

Hey, maybe now I can bet on Michigan games. There have always been a handful of coaches I would never touch picking a win or loss. No matter how I picked them they seemed to do the exact opposite. Betting on too many games they phone in after seeming to “finally get things together” the previous week (or vise versa). Neuheisel -GONE, Alvarez-GONE, Carr-GONE now if Tommy Bowden would fall off the face of the Earth, I would be a happy man.

That picture and caption is perfect.

I’ve enjoyed Carr’s tenure as the HC. Good luck to him in retirement.

What I love best about Carr is how he made his disdain for lobbying the BCS selectors known, all while he himself was lobbying the BCS selectors. Mr. Media Unfriendly suddenly had time on his schedule to call ESPN News and say “Don’t forget Michigan.”

Ultimately the 2006 Michigan squad that was inferior to “consensus #1, OSU” by a field goal proved to be very forgettable.

I heard they were going after Weis.

His teams have a ‘decided schematic advantage in every game they play.’

Gary Barnett: tanned, rested, ready

Durmstrang Institute of Football Studies

genius

“Looks like my tigers can get ride of Les Miles! posted by Harleyman”

Anyone who posts crap like that on a national board is not a Tiger fan. A 30-5 coach, ranked number 1, with no losses to any unranked team and 18-5 against ranked teams? What a fool.

Good luck to him.

As you said, it is ahrd to write nice things about him, but he has earned them. His teams never won as much as his supporters would like (does any team do that?), but they did win, they didn’t cheat and other than that whole graduation thing they did it with class.

I wonder if Les Miles will be to UM what Urban Meyer was to ND?

the one thing you can bank on is that Jim Harbaugh’s house won’t be for sale in Palo Alto.

Personally, I think they hire from within.

Assuming Carr does in fact retire, more credit should be given here to Brian, who singlehandedly kicked the entire Detroit/Ann Arbor media’s ass on this one in a fashion I’m not sure a bona fide blogger (as opposed to random anonymous message board types) has previously. I don’t expect him to get any kind of credit for it from them, of course.

nottheqb—

Relentless politiking? You have a warped sense of reality. When asked, Urban stuck up for his team and felt that they [very rightly as it turns out on both UF’s and UM’s part] deserved a chance to play in the BCSCG. Because ESPN played his one statement ad nauseum does not mean he repeated himself ad nauseum.

To rehash ancient history, for the record: two one loss teams, one with a much more difficult overall schedule and a conference championship vs. a Big Ten also-ran that already lost to the other team in the BCSCG. Seems like a pretty obvious pick to me and it did to many, many others outside of Ann Arbor and Columbus.

Get over yourself and stay bitter, Ann Arbor. Enjoy your new coach, whomever it is.

Here’s my list of candidate I would consider but I have no idea whether Michigan would consider them: (In order of first to last choice)

Bobby Petrino (he’d totally leave the Falcons for a Saban deal), Mark Mangino, Jim Grobe, Mike Leach, Tom O’Brien, Jim Harbaugh, Les Miles, Paul Johnson

Figures……Nothing is coming up Milhouse right now….

As an Ohio State fan, I will be sad to see Lloyd go, and not because of Tressel’s success against him. He is a class of a coach, a good man, and he deserves better than all the Fire Lloyd Carr stuff he has put up with. I will miss Lloyd on the sideline during Michigan week.

That being sad I hope we send him out on a sad note. He can win his bowl game. That will be good enough.

I think Michigan should go a different route, similar to what OSU did with Tressel. Pick a successful coach from a smaller school that the football team can embrace.

Does anyone know how many batteries and what type of batteries it takes to beat Michigan?

Allow me to evaluate those options as an OSU fan with the requisite false sense of importance.

Bobby Petrino – He’s one drafting of Brian Brohm away from having a winning football team. The Falcons have no quarterback right now, and that’s most of the reason they’re so bad.
Mark Mangino – Putting aside my personal dislike of the man for indirectly starving children in Africa, I just don’t see it happening given how long he’s been at Kansas and the fact that it seems to be his destination job
Jim Grobe- Look at Wake Forest now.
Mike Leach- Can you imagine Michigan moving to the Air Raid, abandoning the throwing of rock that they’ve done so consistently since 1969? I mean, a complete offensive overhaul worked so well at Nebraska.
Tom O’Brien – look at what’s he’s doing to NC State
Jim Harbaugh – not after he (along with diligent efforts of Marques Slocum) unveiled the true nature of the Michigan student-athlete
Les Miles – Michigan doesn’t want him. Still seems more likely than any of these others.
Paul Johnson – Again, offense is too gimmicky.

bnb614:That would simply be 1 double A.

On a side note, I agree with you. I just couldn’t hate Michigan very much with Lloyd Carr on the sideline. He always seemed like a real character, a real man of class, and someone who represented his university with dignity and pride. Outside of Jim Tressel and a few others, they don’t make coaches like him very much anymore.

You can have Tedford……

….when you pry him from our cold, dead fingers.

1 AA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The simple fact is that Lloyd is the most successful coach in Michigan history. My fellow alums can talk Bo all they want, but Bo never one a Championship, and rarely saw a Rose Bowl he didn’t lose.

As someone that got to have a few brief experiences with Lloyd, I can say that the curmudgeonly, sniping personality he dragged out on the sideline (and on the sideline reporters) was the farthest from what he actually is – a kind, almost grand-fatherly figure. Lloyd can’t quite bring it with the best in the X and O department anymore, but he’s a man to be respected – especially by anyone who can claim to be a Michigan fan.

I hope Michigan makes a run at Schiano or Leavitt. Neither can consistently be great where they are, have tons of connections in strong recruiting areas, have solid teams, and can build from very little.

I have no inside info, so I can’t give odds—but I’m not crazy enough to think Spurrier is crossing the Mason-Dixon Line or that Miles is leaving the Gorilla for the Big Ten.

This also assumes we’re smart enough to look outside the program. There aren’t any stars sitting in Schembechler Hall right now.

Oh, and Mangino is a walking how to on how to have a massive heart attack. No way anyone big takes a run at a guy you’d expect to lose any day.

#17, get over it. Lloyd Carr politicked for the Wolverines. He did it in a different way but he did it nonetheless. Let’s get rid of this horseshit system and we won’t have the politicking anymore. By the way Urban Meyer’s politicking spared the country from having a fraudulent OSU national championship. You thank him because OSU didn’t get a chance to beat you twice in a row.

If this post was meant as satire, it was lost on me; if it was meant as an editorial, it completely missed what Lloyd is all about.

With Lloyd, you got what you got; integrity, loyalty to a fault and a clean program. And despite all the recent media bashing, his teams are still well over .500 playing teams ranked in the top ten.

I do feel some compacency has set into the program over the last five years, and would even agree that a change is due, however not giving the man credit for his accomplishments is a bit myopic.

He was a company man and gave the University a quality product while keepining them out of the Detroit Free Press for the most part. He was loyal to a fault, which probably hurt the product, but he also won a national title as well as five B10 titles. And if he wins this weekend, he will walk away with a winning record against the team’s biggest rival.

The one thing you did nail on the head is that Carr couldn’t give a rat’s ass what you think or write about him; and you know what? College Football will miss him a lot more than he will miss it.

What would be weird in a Bo Schembechler kinda way, is for Lloyd to go into the hospital on the eve of the Michigan-OSU game……..

Bay Area Bear,

I hear you man. The one good thing about our rather underwhelming season is that perhaps Tetford has become at least a somewaht desirable commodity.

I doubt it though. With the inadiquate facilities (yes there is asceduled upgrade) and the less than overwhelming enthusiasm of the fan base I dunno how much longer we can keep him.

“The simple fact is that Lloyd is the most successful coach in Michigan history.”

Uh Fielding H. Yost.

I hear you Bay Area Bear. The one good thing about our rather underwhelming season is that perhaps Tetford has become a somewhat less desirable commodity.

I doubt it though and with the facilities, difficulties in getting said facilities upgraded and the somewhat underwhelming enthusiasm of the fan base I’m afraid its only a matter of time.

47,

As long as the formula is 2/3 human polls, you will have politicking even with a 16-team playoff as the coach of 17th ranked team will try to convince people why they should be 16th. The only way to take politics out would be to have a formula of purely computer rankings, which no sane person would want.

Y’know, it’s funny. Two weeks ago, Tommy Tuberville was the hottest thing since the innovation of the forward pass and was set to replace Les Miles once Miles assumed the position in Ann Arbor. Amazing what laying a big fat stinking goose egg turd will do for your stock.

To say that Lloyd should retire without any sentiment or nostalgia shows a complete lack of understanding of what is important in college football. While all of us Michigan Alums have suffered more than our share of disappointing losses in recent years there has always been a sense of pride in knowing that Lloyd was running a first class program that helped our players grow as players and people. That may not mean much down here in SEC country but to a Michigan Man, it means plenty. If you have any questions just read the comments from our seniors about Lloyd Carr in the last presser. I wish Lloyd nothing but the best in his retirement and he’ll be missed in Ann Arbor.

Damn that server Orson

If I had one word to describe Lloyd Carr’s tenure, it would be:

“Tremendous”

If I had a second word, it would be “tremendous”.

Tremendous.

More seriously, I’m curious to see where this goes, because at least with Lloyd the team was almost always very good, and you knew he wasn’t going to embarrass the school by doing something stupid. I’d rather Lloyd get rid of the S&C coach and DeBord and keep Lloyd around, but at some point we figured this had to happen. He’s not a football lifer, and he was kinda thrown into the situation back when Moeller f’d things up. He’s done a good job and he’ll be missed as coach, though I doubt he’s leaving the Michigan athletics family, he’ll have an assistant AD job if he wants it I’m sure.

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As soon as Michigan lost to Ohio State, Urban Meyer started bellyaching about how a rematch between U-M and tOSU would be such a disaster, yada yada…I realize he was speaking out on the playoff format itself, but it comes across as politicking, no matter how you slice it. Carr only mentioned Florida and the BCS after the decision was made..he didn’t start bitching and demanding a rematch after we lost to Ohio State.

bnb – Congratulations, you’ve finally learned that Appalachian State is NOT a division II school! I’m telling you, learning CAN be fun…especially when you’re recycling 3-month old jokes. BTW, Juice Williams just ran for another first down.

@Bay Area Bear

Please keep Tedford, I don’t want him in Ann Arbor.

Best of luck to Lloyd, I hope that Bill Martin hires the man for the job, and as far as I’m concerned that man ain’t Jeff Tedford.

BTW, ntqb, Oregon just scored another touchdown. Chad Mallet/ Ryan Henne just threw another pick to a wide open defensive back w/ no blue jersey within 10 yards of him again. Johnny Sears just took another atrocious angle. Donovan Warren still looks like a bust. Morgan Trent just gave up another touchdown. Obi Ezeh still doesn’t know who has the ball, and neither does Chris Graham for that matter. Jake Long is still wondering what life would be like in Arizona right now. Mario Manningham just had another period. Mike Hart just limped off the field again.

We could do this for hours.

Never mind all that, I found a video of Tim Tebow working out at age 7!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwco3TFoQVQ

Anyone want to throw in Brian Kelly’s name? Won the D1AA twice at Grand Valley State, won the MAC at CMU, ahead in the Big East at Cinci…

Is it possible to be too much like The Vest to get hired by The Best?

Great…NOW who will keep Marques Slocum’s animal kingdom from wreaking havoc on society?

Les Miles may deal with a live tiger on a weekly basis, but trust me…Mike VI is no fuck lion.

As much as I’d like to be excited about what could happen, I’m afraid that the Michigan people are too smart to even go after Les Miles. They can do much better.

I nominate Russell Crowe to replace Carr. He already is familiar with the players, and with his love for rugby he’ll send the Michigan offense back to 1948…which was when the Wolverines were dominating th national scene anyway.

As for Lloyd’s next career move…I shudder to think of him as part of a Holtz-Carr Pep Talk tag team.

1. 39

Whatever gives you enough “juice”.

/crickets/

I’ll show myself out now.

As a USC fan, I am sure going to miss Carr. He was grumpy but gracious, and you never had to fear that you would see some new trick or scheme if you played him. He believed in beating you the good fashioned way, and either he had the talent mismatch that would allow him to do it, or he would take a beating like a man. He never whined. That’s something you don’t see much of any more.

Update:
Apparently Carr is headed to South Bend to be Weis’ press secretary / spokesman.

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About half of those made sense, but well done nonetheless.

All I know is, we went into Champaign without one Michael Hart and beat a team that just beat you in your backyard. That has to sting. Our season was over before Labor Day, so we’ve been pretty much numb since then..It’s not so bad when you get used to it.

And 63 just won this thread.

YHIHF – Major Applewhite to Michigan.

Thanks Ill be here all week.

Tyrone NIx is available at fire sale prices.

Dear Michigan,

Please take Bill Callahan.

Signed,
Nebraska

Say what you want about Lloyd, but he was genuine, classy, and straightforward. I hope he stays on at UM in some capacity.
I’d much rather go 7-5 than be on probation or do some of the other things that coaches that win by whatever means necessary

I hope Lloyd takes a job like Bo had as kind of the ombudsman of tradition in the football department. I don’t ever want U-M to be like Michigan State, or Oregon- changing uniforms every 3 games. There is something nice about being consistent.

Lloyd is a classy man, and he brought honor to my school, and I will miss him.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

He may be all of those things. However, we don’t know how much Michigan will actually miss him.

This depends in large part to the eptitude/ineptitude of his successor, of course.

The sentiment among Michigan fans is pretty consistent: We both love Lloyd as a Michigan Man and an ambassador of the program and will consider ourselves lucky if we get a new coach with those qualities half as great as Lloyd Carr’s. Seriously. He’s that highly regarded. We also want him to go. We realize that the game has passed him by, it is certainly time to step down, and his accomplishments on and off the field have earned him the right to coach until he wants to retire. It’s humble of him to realize that the time is now.

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All I know is, we went into Champaign without one Michael Hart and beat a team that just beat you in your backyard. That has to sting.

You gotta love shit talking from a fan of a team that was ranked #5 in the pre-season, expected to compete for a national title, and got beat by Appy State (and paid them $60,000 to do it) and then got shelled by Oregon to start the season 0-2. Talk about a sting.

I guess irrational shit talking is all you have when you are used to mediocrity.

Good luck in your December bowl game this year.

In February 1997, I began a one year tour in the Republic of Korea. I was not happy about it since just six months prior I had been assured I needn’t worry about an assignment to Korea since I was stationed at Fort Bragg. Sometimes, the US government and the Army lie. This meant a year away from my wife with little to do besides work long hours, lift weights, and drink entirely too much alcohol all while enduring Korea’s significant smog problem, insanely congested traffic and at times bizarre culture.

One of the few bright spots during this exile was Saturday. I took a train down to Seoul to hang out with friends. We played football on the on the baseball fields then drank heavily until the Armed Forces Network began broadcasting college football games. The games were usually live and at that point it was actually very early Sunday morning. The football continued until it was time for breakfast.

What I got to see that season was the team I root for go undefeated. I got to see them play defense that bordered on cruelty. I got to see my team field an athlete so good he won an award normally reserved for quarterbacks, tailbacks, and wideouts despite being a cornerback (yeah, the punt returns and receptions did help with that). For once, the team I rooted for didn’t blow it and ended up with a share of that Mythical National Championship, something Michigan hadn’t done in a half century. It certainly wasn’t the best year of my life and there were many moments of lonely—generally drunken—frustration, but watching Michigan win and win and win was what can only be described as a morale booster.

For that, Lloyd Carr has my eternal gratitude. He may not be a perfect coach—no one is—-and certainly isn’t a shiny new thing in a world enamored by shiny new things, but I will miss him and wish him nothing but the best whenever he does choose to retire.

Good point Orson. Here’s hoping Michigan doesn’t hire somebody similar to Charlie Weis with huge name recognition and starts talking about how they “are back,” before they prove anything.

As an OSU fan, as fun as that would be to enjoy, any discussion about overhyped, trainwreck programs in the media should be entirely focused on the Irish.

You gotta love shit talking from a fan of a team that was ranked #5 in the pre-season, expected to compete for a national title, and got beat by Appy State (and paid them $60,000 to do it) and then got shelled by Oregon to start the season 0-2. Talk about a sting.

I guess irrational shit talking is all you have when you are used to mediocrity.

Good luck in your December bowl game this year.

Oregon is good. They would wipe the floor with Ohio State if the two ever played. Good thing Illinois (Oregon lite?) already eliminated the embarrassment from taking place.

And I’m not sure what this “mediocrity” is of which you speak. Yes, you guys have gotten the best of us lately, but we have a winning record vs Ohio State all-time, the longest active streak of consecutive bowl appearances, and Lloyd has the 7th-highest active winning percentage in Division I-A. That’s hardly mediocre.

1. obviously you are not a true Tiger fan or you would know that Miles played and coached under Bo Schembechler at Michigan and has a clause in his contract that would require him to pay LSU $1.25 million if he leaves for Ann Arbor before his contract expires in 2011. If he goes to any other school, there is no buyout penalty.

Why would that even exist if the question had not been raised? Of course Miles wants to eventually go back to UM. And I say let him. do you really think he has coached us to no. 1? come on, we are winning on our talent in spite of our coach.

I love how the OSU fans are dropping the “we own you” card. Funny how their memory only spans 5 years.

And I’m not sure what this "mediocrity" is of which you speak. Yes, you guys have gotten the best of us lately, but we have a winning record vs Ohio State all-time, the longest active streak of consecutive bowl appearances, and Lloyd has the 7th-highest active winning percentage in Division I-A. That’s hardly mediocre.

Seriously no one cares about your victories in 1894 that gives you 17 more wins. In the last 40 years? OSU is 18-20-2 vs Michigan.

And even more seriously, no on cares about your consecutive bowl appearances in the Poinsettia Bowl. 6 wins is all that is required to make a bowl game. Michigan has been to 11 straight bowl games including 3 Citrus Bowls, an Outback Bowl, and a Alamo Bowl. Impressive!

And LLLLLoyd’s 7th highest active winning %? Since 1995, Lloyd has gone 113-36 at Michigan. In that same time period. OSU has gone 119-32, and Florida has gone 118-34.

So throw around the stats and enjoy continued mediocrity. Next year when OSU is playing USC out of conference, you’ll be playing Utah. Nice work keeping that winning % up.

Carr did deserve much of the criticism for Michigan’s poor performances and his unwillingness to “modernize” in certain areas and be more creative.

But, he was a good guy that ran his program with integrity and he should be recongized for that.

This is a HUGE job opening. Should be an interesting search. Of course, it may not be that interesting the focus is primarily on Les Miles and he accepts.

“…I was proud to have Lloyd as my head coach was his refusal to campaign for a spot in the MNC game last year, even after Urban Meyer’s relentless politicking and Bernie Machen’s machinations. Old school till the end…you’ll be missed.”

Yes…Yes…at least there will always be THAT! …and oh 41-14 too!

Big Ten blows.

Lloyd will be missed. For those of you who only know Carr from clips of him on the sidelines chewing up refs and spitting them out, it is understandable that you do not understand our feelings for the guy. He is smart, loyal, protective of his players; an overall class act. Our sport needs men like Lloyd Carr.

Loyal to LLoyd
A class old school act. A true Bo pupil. Will be missed., if he doesn’t stick around as a mentor as Bo did