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November 10, 2007

PERFECTION REDACTED

Illinois 28, Ohio State 21. The season in the boathouse continues. MAO!

Illini are indeed getting better and better, and Ohio State runs aground at home.

Filed under: Big 10 Conference, Coaches, the BCS, scandals, arrests, and other eccentri, College football, name redacted by Orson Swindle

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maskedavenger says:

So I take it the entire rest of the college football universe just got off the Michigan bandwagon? No one want to root for our heroic cripples to thrash the Buckeyes anymore? Anyone? Hello?

November 10th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
52

Boy Howdy says:

In the halftime highlights during the USC-Cal broadcast, they showed a pair of Oklahoma State fan signs, saying: “Gundy’s thinkin of a win” and “Mangino’s thinkin Arbys”.

That’s a beautiful thing.

November 10th, 2007 at 9:45 pm
53

BurritoBrosShits says:

I certainly don’t see anything short of a miracle stopping the Buckeyes. Even if its in the Big House. Them boys gunna be pissed off.

November 10th, 2007 at 9:48 pm
54

Ed says:

Rose Bowl throwing thorns Lllloyd’s way as we speak.

Rematch baby! hahahahahahahahaha

November 10th, 2007 at 9:56 pm
55

notthequarterback says:

48 – A team full of seniors who have never beaten them will be awfully angry, as well.

Should at least make for a good game.

November 10th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
56

Z says:

I was at the Illinois/OSU game tonight. I was wearing my Illinois gear (I’m an alum) and many of the fans who said something to me were very nice. As I was walking out, many congratulated me regarding the Illinois team and I even saw this one gentleman about as old as Moses with a cane wearing an Illinois jacket getting a lot of congrats and back pats from tOSU fans as they walked by. So contrary to what a lot of stereotyping absolutists around here say regarding tOSU fans, I saw a lot of courtesy, class and respect from them tonight despite their loss..was a great tough fought game.

November 10th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
57

tOSUBuckeyes says:

Although Ohio State will probably drop below the rest of the 1 loss teams, the loss is not all that bad when compared to the rest of the 1 loss teams in the top 5.

1 Loss Teams
Kentucky is 7-3 beat LSU
Colorado is 5-6 beat OU
California is 6-3 beat Oregon (losing to USC right now)
USF is 6-3 beat UWV
FSU is 6-4 beat BC
Ill is 8-3 beat OSU

Of the other 1 loss teams, Mizzu and Arizona State have the “best” losses with both of their losses coming to teams with only 1 loss and still ranked in the top 10.

November 10th, 2007 at 10:14 pm
58

tOSUBuckeyes says:

This year can be summed up by watching the last two weeks of Nebraska football. Give up 76 one week, score 70+ the next.

It’s been that kind of year.

November 10th, 2007 at 10:22 pm
59

The Bull-Gator says:

I’m not from any of the services, but did anyone notice that Navy won a game 74-62? North Texas had EIGHT (8) TD passes and Navy had tons of ground tds. It makes for an awesome box score.

November 10th, 2007 at 10:36 pm
60

John says:

I really hope the east coast ABC affiliates switch to USC-Cal soon.

November 10th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
61

John says:

I change my mind, this game just got interesting again.

November 10th, 2007 at 11:00 pm
62

D-nice says:

Did Michigan really care about the Wisconsin game?

They would have played for the Big 10 title regardless. Resting Henne and Hart shows that they were focusing on OSU. Not that their performance should be completely excused, but I got the feelign they really didn’t give a shit.

November 10th, 2007 at 11:18 pm
63

odell51 says:

It is a happy day in Mudville.

MAO…..MAO!!!! Ditty MAO!!!!!!!

November 10th, 2007 at 11:34 pm
64

SpartanDan says:

Fair point, D-nice, but if Henne isn’t full strength for next week … well, did you see how godawful Mallett was?

And Bull-Gator, yeah, I saw that. Saw the score at 49-45 NTU, figured it was probably late 4th quarter … then did a double take when it said halftime.

I’d drop OSU to about 6th right now – Oregon, LSU, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Missouri (and maybe Arizona State) move up. The loss is better than Oklahoma’s, but Oklahoma also has the big win over Missouri (better than any of OSU’s wins to date). WFV’s resume is almost comparable, but I don’t think their wins are as good as beating Wisconsin and Penn State.

November 10th, 2007 at 11:39 pm
65

Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ says:

#54,So now we have a Strength of Loss Schedule!

November 10th, 2007 at 11:43 pm
66

Chris W says:

tOSUBuckeyes, I agree that in comparison to the other losses that other 1 loss teams have, this doesn’t look bad. But you are only looking at half of the equation. The reason people have been looking at Ohio State questionably and saying they have to win out to get in is because the Buckeyes have beat absolutely no quality teams.

Their OOC schedule sucked, they have no current top 25 teams on their resume and the Big 10 has done very badly out of conference. If not for the historical sucktitude of ND, the Big 10 would look even worse OOC.

So don’t look to the quality of the teams you’ve lost to, look to the quality of the teams you’ve beat. You’ve not beat anyone of merit. Have fun losing to ASU in the Rose Bowl.

November 10th, 2007 at 11:44 pm
67

notthequarterback says:

#59 Exactly.

And, unfortunately, #60 Exactly, as well.

Mallette was terrible. I know you have to excuse some things due to freshman inexperience, but he was atrocious..underthrows, overthrows, and a general lack of mental presence at any point of the game.

November 10th, 2007 at 11:55 pm
68

Skip says:

Colt Brennan is a hot piece of ass even when he blows his nose.

November 10th, 2007 at 11:57 pm
69

CenTexTiger says:

It is not MAO, it is MAU. MAU=quick or quickly in Vietnamese.

November 11th, 2007 at 12:32 am
70

fattus says:

F colt brennan…..actually i don’t mind colt. but i HATE JUNE JONES. 3rd most egotistical coach behind mike shanahan and charlie ate the chocolate factory.

i know hawaii winning out until boise state helps not only BSU but the conference, but i just can’t root for them.

oh in other news….BUTTHOLE COLLEGE LOSES! i dunno who i like worse….butthole college or hawaii.

November 11th, 2007 at 12:36 am
71

Mr Pelican Pants says:

Let the record show, that the game between tOSU and the Fightin Redacti, that the Big 10, still, one year later, has no answer for an athletic, dual threat QB.
Offensive coordinators, take note….Juice Williams and Dennis Dixon are the poster children of how to beat tOSU and Michigan…..and a news update, Knowshown Moreno has just scored again on Auburn, and JPW has just thrown his second game …..all the way out of bounds and past the point of no return…lets see, a fumble at the most crucial part of LSU game, and a Pick 6 vs Croomster …..Tim Tebow just completed a pass to himself to score on OBC, againnnnnn, just pitched it up like Pitch up and Smear, except SC didnt do much smearin…..

November 11th, 2007 at 1:56 am
72

Captain Awesome says:

Dear Buckeyes –

It’s time to drop the ‘t’

-The remaining 49 states, all territories, and protectorates

November 11th, 2007 at 1:58 am
73

Gilbert says:

Down goes Brennan — He’s on the ground and hurt after a big hit (it was clean).

November 11th, 2007 at 2:00 am
74

Gilbert says:

Brennan is now walking off on his own power. It took a while, but thankfully, he was able to get up and walk off.

November 11th, 2007 at 2:03 am
75

Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ says:

Darn, I wanted to see the Buckeyes vs LSU. I love creamed buckeyes. They’re great with gator or crawfish. Kinda’ like gravy on some real meat. Oh well, maybe next year or the year after or the year after. It’s hard to eat all those cupcakes w/o choking on one. Throw in a real conference championship game and they’d rarely be seen on the menu.

November 11th, 2007 at 2:23 am
76

Troy says:

About 11 months ago, I took it for granted that Jim Tressel was one of the great gameday coaches in college football. Now in those 11 months he’s been soundly outcoached by Urban Meyer and Ron Zook, two coaches who are… not exactly great gamecallers. So… yeah. Jim Tressel, welcome to the “questionable in big games?” club.

(Although, I suppose Urban shows flashes of good playcalling, especially when he has more than a week to prepare.)

November 11th, 2007 at 8:47 am
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The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes says:

#71
I wouldn’t say he was soundly out coached by Zook. I think Zook’s athletes played better and made plays when they needed to make plays.

If losing by 7 to an up and coming team that is way underrated is the only blemish on a season where you are breaking in a new quarterback and guys all over the field who are replacing guys who left early in the draft last year, then I can live with that.

Especially this year with all of the carnage.

I think the Florida game and yesterday revealed just how much we miss Mark Dantonio and his defensive adjustments.

Give Illinois some credit, they ran the read-option to perfection and didn’t make any mistakes. I don’t care how good a team is, if another team prepares well enough and executes their game plan to perfection, even the best of teams can be beaten, just ask every team not named Kansas.

November 11th, 2007 at 9:28 am
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The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes says:

#66
So dual threat quarterbacks are only successful in the Big Ten? Last time I checked no one in the Big 12 or USC had an answer for Vince Young – in fact, in 2005 we had them dead in the rights and they manage to get off the hook. Only 1 team had an answer for Tebow in the SEC last year. No one in the Pac10 seems to have an answer for Denis Dixon at Oregon.

Interesting side note:
2005: Penn State 12-1, 2006 Wisconsin 12-1, 2007 Ohio State 12-1? If we finish out 12-1 it will be the third year in a row that a team from the Big Ten only has 1 blemish and that one blemish coming from conference play.

Over the last 11 years:
1996 11-1 Ohio State (L Mich)
1998 12-1 Ohio State (L Mich St)
1998 11-1 Wisconsin (L Mich)
2005 12-1 Penn St (L Mich)
2006 12-1 Wisconsin (L Mich)

November 11th, 2007 at 9:48 am
79

Digital Headbutt says:

#47: This may be one of the few time I will actually root for Duke to win a football game (against Notre Dame). And I’m a Heels fan who’s just the last of my teams slim bowl hopes crushed by the Wolfpack and a freak TJ Yates interception.

November 11th, 2007 at 10:48 am
80

Techie says:

UNC never had a chance at a bowl game. But you probably are going to ruin our season next week…….

November 11th, 2007 at 11:57 am
81

Mr Pelican Pants says:

tOSU,
I guess it all comes down to playing at least 6 games with opponents of ILLNOIS type caliber talent, thats what everyone is griping about….the waltz, the same song and dance to the Big Game, with only Michigan being the only real challenge, which remains to be seen, since they are missing key pieces to their puzzle. If Michigan beats OSU with out their key players, then it will be pure coaching on their part and OSU giving the game away. Everyone basically, after last years MNC game, where OSU was basically just gonna blow out Fla, and then things went terribly wrong for tOSU>
This year, the media, the fans, always were waiting for the other shoe to fall, if and when tOSU got there again this year and would be facing, in many peoples opinion, a much more talented group from the SEC this year than what Ohio State saw last year, and would expect the same results, barring bonehead coaching. It comes down to this, if your gonna be the heavy weight champion, you need to fight heavyweights, not
Glass Joe’s, then expect to jump in the ring with a Mike Tyson- in- his prime-natural born- killer and expect to win when you have never taken a real punch the whole year..thats just crazy delusional thinking….I am beginning to think alot of tOSU fans didnt see the same game the rest of the nation saw….based on the comments I read the score must have been 18-17, with a 6 FG from Fla since they couldnt move the ball on tOSU, not the 41-17 drubbing that it turned out to be…the In-n-Out Curse…..til someone from the Big 10 drubs LSU 41-17, we will then talk about Big 10 type of football….

November 11th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
82

Mr Pelican Pants says:

For the record, Georgia is the best team to face LSU in the SEC championship, not Tennessee for damn sure.
Alabama and Auburn just need to get new QB’s and start the hell over, or just go ahead and spot their opponents 14 pts off soon to be turnovers

November 11th, 2007 at 12:39 pm
83

Chris says:

Ilinois type talent?

UI has played 3 teams that were/are in top 5. UI beats 2 of them. The third, against Mizzou, they were inside the 20 with less than a minute to win.

I know you SEC folks have a hard time understanding this, but you have a losing record against the B10 in bowl games since 2001, and for all of the talk about the NC, the SEC ended up 1-2 against the B10 last year.

Heard all year how overrated Wisconsin/PSU were, then they soundly beat the SEC west champs and Tennessee.

November 11th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
84

SpartanDan says:

Uh, Pelican Pants? You may not have noticed, but Illinois actually has talent this year. They came closer to hanging a loss on Missouri than anyone besides Oklahoma has. They beat Wisconsin and Penn State (both sitting at 8-3 right now). Just because they aren’t a traditional powerhouse doesn’t mean they aren’t good.

November 11th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
85

Chg says:

I don’t understand why CFN felt compelled to bring up Zook’s SEC mediocrity before expressing shock that he outcoached Tressell*. For all the outrage over his Florida record, he still had a much better record against the SEC than Tressell.

* I know how to spell it. He just picks up an extra “L” when the SEC is involved. Llloyd says hi.

November 11th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
86

D-nice says:

I still don’t understand Illinois’ loss to Iowa.

Then again, they looked perfect yesterday and you have to remember that they do have weaknesses. Juice Williams can be horribly inconsistent and then the offense sputters. Still though, they should not have lost to Iowa.

November 11th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
87

gosouthgohard says:

#7:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dot+the+eyes

November 11th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
88

Mr Pelican Pants says:

You misunderstood what I said…they NEED to play at least 6 games against TEAMS with ILLINOIS TYPE TALENT(meaning GOOD(….like 6 games in the same season, not just 1 or 2 good teams, good talent teams,just like this one.. hey I know ILL. is good, thats what I am trying to say…run the gauntlet and then see where your at before you get ranked #1, by no ways a dig at ILL. at all.

November 11th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
89

Mr Pelican Pants says:

I usually dont put much stock in Bowl games, since most of the times, there are coaching changes happening , players that are high draft picks sitting out, and most of the time the players are drunk…the only bowl game that matters is the MNC, thats what I gauge Conference dominance off of…. the best from one conference playing the “best” of another conference,not the mediocre stuff in the middle, the cream of the crop. I promise ya, the 2nd best SEC team is GA, not TN, and the third best is FLA, not TN.
IF TN gets to the SEC championship, expect a blowout from LSU, a warmup for whoever gets to #2…hopefully KU..they play solid mistake free disciplined football

November 11th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
90

Duke of C-U says:

D-Nice,

The Iowa game (on the road with a young team) was sandwiched in between two big home wins against Wisc and PSU and a night game the following week versus Michigan. Looked like a classic trap game. Zook’s game day coaching deficiencies were on full display that day too.

On two occasions he chose to accept penalties where the Illini made third down stops. On both occasions the Hawks converted, and on one they threw for a TD.

The Illini probably would have won the game but for a TE lining up incorrectly on a 70+ yard go ahead score late in the 4th. The Hawks did a great job containing Mendenhall as well.

November 11th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
91

Chris says:

pelican pants …

You were right, I misinterpreted your post. My bad.

November 11th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
92

bnb614 says:

Mr Pelican Pants said: if your gonna be the heavy weight champion, you need to fight heavyweights, not
Glass Joe’s, then expect to jump in the ring with a Mike Tyson- in- his prime-natural born- killer and expect to win when you have never taken a real punch the whole year..thats just crazy delusional thinking

Seriously Mr PP (ha ha ha!) I don’t think you look at all the facts.

#1 Florida whipped my Buckeyes damn good last year. They deserved the national title. Hats off to them. But to imply that the MNC was indicative of OSU’s play the entire season is BS. OSU didn’t get up for the big game and got beat. However, they had a 60 day layoff and a WR got injured on the first play who would have required sometimes double coverage, which would not have let your D run as wild at Troy Smith. Would Ted Ginn have meant an OSU victory? No but it would have changed the game plan. The 60 days off is a bigger factor. That is what ruins the MNC for me. Any team can lay an egg after 60 days off.

#2 if your gonna be the heavy weight champion, you need to fight heavyweights

Have you looked at OSU’s schedule? Last season they became the first #1 team to play 3 #2 ranked teams in the same season.

As to saying they don’t fight heavyweights, OSU did a home and home with Texas (who won the MNC and should have lost in Columbus). Next 2 years they do a home and home with USC. 2 years after that a home and home with Miami. After that a home and home with Virginia Tech. The Washington game this year was leftover from a home and home in the 90’s (when Wash was good)

Show me an SEC OOC schedule like that. OSU would probably schedule a home and home with an SEC team but none would be willing to leave the south.

You use the transitive properties to say that OSU doesn’t play anyone. Well you can make any argument you want using transitive properties, which fans always do while ignoring the same criticisms that could be made for their team (which is why we need a playoff)

For example. Kansas State nearly beat Auburn. Auburn beat Florida, and Nebraska beat Kansas State severely. Using your logic, Nebraska would kill Florida. See how ridiculous that is?

PS Someone asked “why is their someone in an Illinois shirt on the OSU sidelines? Don’t know if it was answered, and assumed everyone knew this, but the ballboy wears the opposing teams colors on their sideline so he is easily spotted by the refs.

Predict the MNC. I am going to say LSU will lay an egg, and Oklahoma will beat KS. So the MNC will be an Oregon team who plays no one, vs. Oklahoma.

November 11th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
93

willet says:

#83 Did you watch the Ark v Wisc game? Arkansas beat them everywhere but the scoreboard. Regardless of your idiotacy at least the frauds are out of the MNC picture.

November 11th, 2007 at 7:16 pm
94

Joe says:

With Les Miles returning to the Russian Roulette table I can’t help but think of Walken at the end of Deer Hunter every time I think of Les.

November 11th, 2007 at 7:22 pm
95

bnb614 says:

#93, they didn’t beat them period. Congratulations on your moral victory.

November 11th, 2007 at 7:22 pm
96

southernmost says:

“Have you looked at OSU’s schedule? Last season they became the first #1 team to play 3 #2 ranked teams in the same season.”

2 of those “#2″ teams were Michigan and Texas, who were both exposed as frauds. Texas with late season autoerotic asphyxiations against K-St. and A&M, and Michigan in their bowl game against USC.

The other #2 team was Florida, who pounded that Buckeye ass so harshly I almost felt bad for them. Almost.

So spare me the talk of their tough schedule. The only thing that little facturd shows is how flawed the voting system is.

November 11th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
97

bnb614 says:

Sorry southernturd.

You are right, when OSU plays 2 #2 teams in the regular season, they are frauds. Michigan loses their bowl game and is exposed as frauds. What does that say about Arkansas and Tennessee getting beat by Big 10 teams?

When a 2 loss Pac-10 team beats Tennessee, when a 3 loss Kentucky beats the best team in the SEC, when an unranked Auburn beats Florida, when an unranked Big East team and an unranked Miss St beats Auburn, etc , etc , etc , etc it just shows how damn superior the SEC is than everyone else.

Don’t let the facts interfere with your arguments.

November 11th, 2007 at 10:20 pm
98

Chg says:

If you want to talk facts, go to the CFBDatawarehouse. Find all the facts you can to refute any claim that the SEC is the historically premier conference. Your fruitless search should effectively shut down this chain.

Also, if you are going to stoop to changing someone’s signature, at least be creative and genuinely funny. Your version of southernmost’s name might qualify as clever amongst your friends, but that really says more about you and your peer group than it does about your comedic talent.

November 12th, 2007 at 12:52 am
99

bnb614 says:

Also, if you are going to stoop to changing someone�s signature, at least be creative and genuinely funny. Your version of southernmost�s name might qualify as clever amongst your friends, but that really says more about you and your peer group than it does about your comedic talent.

Ooh zing.

It wasn’t meant to be creative, it was response to his using the same word to diss my post. Or didn’t you read up that far?

November 12th, 2007 at 8:55 am
100

bnb614 says:

In regards to your suggestion to check CFDataWarehouse, no thanks. I am sure I could find facts to back up any argument I wanted, just like you did. That is the problem with college football, in the absence of a playoff system people use facts to say whatever argument they want to make. It is how sports analysts get people inflamed enough to listen, and call in.

To use a movie quote:

“People want playoffs, Mr. President, and in the absence of playoffs, they’ll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone. They want playoffs. They’re so thirsty for it they’ll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there’s no playoffs, they’ll drink up twisted facts to make any argument.”

“People don’t drink up twisted facts because they’re thirsty. They drink up twisted facts because they don’t know the difference.”

November 12th, 2007 at 9:05 am