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Illinois 28, Ohio State 21. The season in the boathouse continues. MAO!


Illini are indeed getting better and better, and Ohio State runs aground at home.

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by fotodog on Nov 10, 2007 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

Remember. Florida losing at home to an unranked team and three times more on the season just shows their conference depth.

OSU doing it at home just shows how overrated we are.

Anyway, back to my crow.

by poguemahone on Nov 10, 2007 7:04 PM EST reply actions  

Er, three times overall on the season, pending their remaining schedule.

by poguemahone on Nov 10, 2007 7:06 PM EST reply actions  

We got Zooked. Hats off to the Zookers. They played a perfect game while the clock was running, too bad they had to tarnish a great victory by stomping on the Block O at midfield and starting a fight.

by tOSUBuckeyes on Nov 10, 2007 7:06 PM EST reply actions  

Zook on the fifty yard line, after the game, with a bullhorn:

I hear you. The Illini who did this hear you. And those bastards at fireronzook will soon hear from me.

by Lawrence Ross on Nov 10, 2007 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

Sucks to be an OSU fan right now. Oh well, life isn’t fair. If it were, OSU would drop to 2nd after a single loss (hello, LSU bias).

However, this does set the stage for the single biggest pile of crow ever to be eaten: Oregon-LSU for the MNC. When Oregon humbles LSU in it’s hometown of The City Under The Sea, I fully expect 500 word acknowledgments of PAC 10 superiority from anyone who has every uttered the phrase Geaux Tigers.

PS: those victories over Alabama, Kentucky, and Florida don’t look so good right now, do they?

by BeardGuy on Nov 10, 2007 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve always thought “dot the i” would be a good name for a sex act

by Lars on Nov 10, 2007 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

Waiiiiit….did Zook and Co. finally devise a strategy for efficiently running out the clock?

by Two and Out on Nov 10, 2007 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

  1. - if that actually happens I would be beside myself as a Pac-10 fan, especially if said loss for LSU in the MNC came on a Les Miles-balls-for-brains bonehead going for it on 4th down.

by Signal to Noise on Nov 10, 2007 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

BeardGuy, don’t feel too bad. You had a great season. And there’s no f-ing way Oregon will ever beat LSU.

by PW on Nov 10, 2007 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

" Those victories over Alabama , Kentucky and Alabama don’t look so good". They look better than that loss to Illinois.

by Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ on Nov 10, 2007 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

I’m so afraid that Zook and Co. will lose to Northwestern’s crazy offense next week.

I think Oregon – LSU would be a good MNC, but we’re assuming they don’t lose.

Kansas (Kansas!) has a legit argument if they win out – very legit, being that they have to beat 9-1 Mzzou and a 1 loss Oklahoma team.

by D-nice on Nov 10, 2007 7:25 PM EST reply actions  

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions
according to this UF will be playing the Illini in the Cap One bowl…interesting

by joepadon on Nov 10, 2007 7:34 PM EST reply actions  

It is going to be Missouri-West Virginia in the National Championship game.

by bamafanintigerland on Nov 10, 2007 7:36 PM EST reply actions  

Look on the bright side, at least OSU won’t lose 2 NC games in a row.

by Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ on Nov 10, 2007 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

Wow. OSU players and fans and playersreally show their true colors. When they win, the fans burn and destory property. When they lose, the players start a fight with the other team.

CLASS IS OUT IN COLUMBUS!

You know how you separate the 1-loss teams? Look at who they lost to. If you lose to an unranked team at home and under the lights, you lose all bragging rights. OSU, MAO!!!!!!!

by Gerbs on Nov 10, 2007 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone who has watched Illinois play this year should know that they are a much improved team with a nice collection of talent. They played #5 Mizzu to the wire and they have knocked off the #1 team on the road. As sick to my stomach as I am right now, I still have to tip my hat to those guys. They are much better than they get credit for.

I think the bowl season is going to be real interesting.

Georgia might be the hottest team in the country right now.

by tOSUBuckeyes on Nov 10, 2007 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

THANK GOD!!!! LSU-Oregon could be a much better game than LSU-tOSU.

by BurritoBrosShits on Nov 10, 2007 7:47 PM EST reply actions  

Illinois’ only bad loss was at Iowa. Win or lose next week, they will get 3rd in the Big Ten. But, hopefully they will finish 9-3.

by D-nice on Nov 10, 2007 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

@16

Florida did the same thing this year, so they can’t brag. l.

by poguemahone on Nov 10, 2007 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

A Illinois-Florida Capital One Bowl would probably get more hype than any of the non-MNC BCS games, especially since it’s one of only three January bowl games our mouse-eared overlords control.

On the other hand, I’d like to see Illinois lose to Northwestern so that Penn State can sneak into the Capital One.

by John on Nov 10, 2007 7:58 PM EST reply actions  

hey what does MAO mean. seriously. i have no idea.

by Jahosafat on Nov 10, 2007 7:58 PM EST reply actions  

20,

Auburn was ranked #11 when they beat Florida, and that game was at Auburn.

by John on Nov 10, 2007 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe this is part of Tressel’s genius — he’s just inoculating his team with Transitive Property Herpes before they go up against Patient Zero. It’s not like he got outcoached by Zook at home.

by Flop on Nov 10, 2007 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

@22

Mao as in Mao Zhedong. Read the Vietnamese boathouse post if you still don’t get it.

by poguemahone on Nov 10, 2007 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

Whoops, you were talking about 2007, not 2006, sorry.

by John on Nov 10, 2007 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

23,

I do believe Auburn went on the road this year and beat Florida.

by LegionofCroom on Nov 10, 2007 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

Jahosafat – In the movie Deer Hunter, there is a scene where the characters play russian roulette in a boat house. When someone takes their turn, somebody yells “MAO!”. I haven’t seen the specific scene myself, but that’s the general gist.

Take a turn, MAO!, pull trigger.

by The Bull-Gator on Nov 10, 2007 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

Well, if you’re sorting the 1-loss teams by loss (coaches poll ranks):

1. Arizona State (Oregon – #3)
2. Missouri (Oklahoma – #4)
3. LSU (Kentucky- #22)
4. Oregon (Cal – #27)
5. Ohio State (Illinois – #29)
6. Boston College (Florida State – #31)
7. West Virginia (South Florida – #37)
8. Oklahoma (Colorado – no votes)
9. Boise State (Washington – no votes)

Somehow, I doubt that’s the best way to rank them.

by Bill on Nov 10, 2007 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

Perfection is never losing another game to Ted Roof and a bunch of Duke kids who couldn’t make the lacrosse team. GO GT!

by Nick Black on Nov 10, 2007 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

@19:

Actually, Illinois could finish second in the Big Ten with a win next week and an OSU loss.

by Dave on Nov 10, 2007 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

suppose boise state wins out and michigan beats ohio state. should a 3-loss michigan be ranked ahead of a 1-loss boise state? both had terrible losses and both play in shitty conferences.

don’t mind me….i’m just holding on to a desperate prayer of going to new orleans for the sugar bowl (the first one).

by fattus on Nov 10, 2007 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

  1. and 25-

I may be wrong, but i actually think MAO in the vietnamese boathouse is from the Vietnamese language.

“Didi Mao” was about the extent of most GIs Viet in that conflict. Loosely translated: "Move your ass! I think “Mao” means “GO”.

All the GIs I know from that era say “lets’ didi”, as slang for “let’s go”.

“I’m no linguist, but I believe Warren Zevon may be the only artist to ever use the word ‘Brucellosis’ in a song.”
DAVID LETTERMAN

by Mo Claretts' cellmate on Nov 10, 2007 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

22/25/30
Since you’ve not been with us from the beginning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn3lt_gcn0I

by Lars on Nov 10, 2007 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

fattus,

I personally would rank Boise State ahead of Michigan, but I think the pollsters might intentionally rank Michigan ahead of Boise State just so the Sugar Bowl gets its choice of team.

by John on Nov 10, 2007 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

You knew the meat-grinder that is the Big10 would eventually catch up to OSU. I mean you can only get up for Indiana, Iowa, Northwestern, Purdue, Minnesotta et al so many times before you slip up.

Seriously, though, Illinois has a good collection of talent. Anytime you have a stud back like that, some capable receivers, and a dual threat QB—then you have a team that can beat anyone on any given Saturday, or lose miserably. Zook really has brought the mid level SEC team to the Big10.

NOTE—you guys confused about Mao need to go watch the Deer Hunter, it’s well worth your time.

by Warthen on Nov 10, 2007 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

the 2007 season should now be called [Season Redacted]

by uofdfan00097 on Nov 10, 2007 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

tAFKATOSU…

I heard that the fight stemmed from Jenkins’ hit on Juice on the final play… Could have been the stomping which is definitely classless but could have been avoided by not losing at home.

by Duke of C-U on Nov 10, 2007 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

Whoever said they believed Georgia is looking surperb is absolutely right they spanked Auburn for approximately 80% of that game…. that, and Tebow is back running his trucking business…three rushing TD’s in the first half.

by rjsplow on Nov 10, 2007 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

Evidently, Mike Gundy is a man, and he’s also forty.

by John on Nov 10, 2007 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

John,

Unfortunately I think you are right.

by fattus on Nov 10, 2007 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

#35
Juice ran around and was trying to run the clock completely down, he’s fair game if he doesn’t immediately take a knee.

As to the fight, the word is that the Ohio State players were gathering at the middle of the field to take a knee and have their usual moment of prayer when several of the Illinois players started stomping the O.

It doesn’t matter, hats off to the Zookers, they are the most improved team in the Big Ten, possibly the country. They played a perfect game and really took it to our defense. No excuses no whining.

by tOSUBuckeyes on Nov 10, 2007 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

I’m going to laugh my ass off if LSU handily wins the national championship, the SEC wins 80% of its bowl games (note that assuming Vanderbilt beats Wake Forest that means all but one SEC team will be in a bowl game), and every idiot on here that thinks that in-conference schedule implies the strength of a conference relative to other conferences is sitting dumbstruck in front of their monitor.

by GTSteve on Nov 10, 2007 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Depressing, yet we were in a rebuilding year. I trust Tress to get the guys off the mat and beat UM. Go to the Rose Bowl and beat a Pac 10 or an at-large team. 12-1 is a good season, yet still not what could have been. I am in Orange Beach this weekend and the whole state of Alabama is in lockdown tonight. I believe it will be a quiet ride home, where UGA fans will resume their ridicule. LSU fans better not count their chickens yet, UGA could ruin your New Years too. This is the wildest year I’ve ever seen in college football and I’ve been around longer than most.

by Crabapple Buck on Nov 10, 2007 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

Di di mao Skinner!

I hope Coach Cheaty McSweatervest knows how to swim. He needs to retrieve Coach [name redacted’s] skis tomorrow.

by BDoc on Nov 10, 2007 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

I think “mao” in Mandarin is actually “cat”, but of course it depends on what tone you use. So I think the Vietnamese translation is probably the correct one.

by fotodog on Nov 10, 2007 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

I was at the game (and admittedly a tOSU fan) and there was no “fight”, but great embellishment by some of the above folks . The Illini stomped the ‘O’ (more power to them…they played a great game), tOSU came out and pushed them off and then they had their post-game prayer….it was a non-event.

by Mark on Nov 10, 2007 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

Never in a million years did I think I would say this but…

“I feel bad for the Irish and I hope they get better. I mean, sweet Jesus, they’re so horrible that it’s really not even funny anymore.”

I still hate ’em and all, but I genuinely feel sorry for them.

by stapler on Nov 10, 2007 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

I would be interested to see how tOSU would do against a Pac-10 team.

At this point, when do we stop saying that this conference sucks and that one is good and start talking about the overall parity among the top to middle conferences in college football?

by BurritoBrosShits on Nov 10, 2007 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

So I take it the entire rest of the college football universe just got off the Michigan bandwagon? No one want to root for our heroic cripples to thrash the Buckeyes anymore? Anyone? Hello?

by maskedavenger on Nov 10, 2007 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

In the halftime highlights during the USC-Cal broadcast, they showed a pair of Oklahoma State fan signs, saying: “Gundy’s thinkin of a win” and “Mangino’s thinkin Arbys”.

That’s a beautiful thing.

by Boy Howdy on Nov 10, 2007 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

I certainly don’t see anything short of a miracle stopping the Buckeyes. Even if its in the Big House. Them boys gunna be pissed off.

by BurritoBrosShits on Nov 10, 2007 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

Rose Bowl throwing thorns Lllloyd’s way as we speak.

Rematch baby! hahahahahahahahaha

by Ed on Nov 10, 2007 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

48 – A team full of seniors who have never beaten them will be awfully angry, as well.

Should at least make for a good game.

by notthequarterback on Nov 10, 2007 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

I was at the Illinois/OSU game tonight. I was wearing my Illinois gear (I’m an alum) and many of the fans who said something to me were very nice. As I was walking out, many congratulated me regarding the Illinois team and I even saw this one gentleman about as old as Moses with a cane wearing an Illinois jacket getting a lot of congrats and back pats from tOSU fans as they walked by. So contrary to what a lot of stereotyping absolutists around here say regarding tOSU fans, I saw a lot of courtesy, class and respect from them tonight despite their loss..was a great tough fought game.

by Z on Nov 10, 2007 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

Although Ohio State will probably drop below the rest of the 1 loss teams, the loss is not all that bad when compared to the rest of the 1 loss teams in the top 5.

1 Loss Teams
Kentucky is 7-3 beat LSU
Colorado is 5-6 beat OU
California is 6-3 beat Oregon (losing to USC right now)
USF is 6-3 beat UWV
FSU is 6-4 beat BC
Ill is 8-3 beat OSU

Of the other 1 loss teams, Mizzu and Arizona State have the “best” losses with both of their losses coming to teams with only 1 loss and still ranked in the top 10.

by tOSUBuckeyes on Nov 10, 2007 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

This year can be summed up by watching the last two weeks of Nebraska football. Give up 76 one week, score 70+ the next.

It’s been that kind of year.

by tOSUBuckeyes on Nov 10, 2007 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

I’m not from any of the services, but did anyone notice that Navy won a game 74-62? North Texas had EIGHT (8) TD passes and Navy had tons of ground tds. It makes for an awesome box score.

by The Bull-Gator on Nov 10, 2007 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

I really hope the east coast ABC affiliates switch to USC-Cal soon.

by John on Nov 10, 2007 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

I change my mind, this game just got interesting again.

by John on Nov 10, 2007 11:00 PM EST reply actions  

Did Michigan really care about the Wisconsin game?

They would have played for the Big 10 title regardless. Resting Henne and Hart shows that they were focusing on OSU. Not that their performance should be completely excused, but I got the feelign they really didn’t give a shit.

by D-nice on Nov 10, 2007 11:18 PM EST reply actions  

It is a happy day in Mudville.

MAO…..MAO!!!! Ditty MAO!!!!!!!

by odell51 on Nov 10, 2007 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

Fair point, D-nice, but if Henne isn’t full strength for next week … well, did you see how godawful Mallett was?

And Bull-Gator, yeah, I saw that. Saw the score at 49-45 NTU, figured it was probably late 4th quarter … then did a double take when it said halftime.

I’d drop OSU to about 6th right now – Oregon, LSU, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Missouri (and maybe Arizona State) move up. The loss is better than Oklahoma’s, but Oklahoma also has the big win over Missouri (better than any of OSU’s wins to date). WFV’s resume is almost comparable, but I don’t think their wins are as good as beating Wisconsin and Penn State.

by SpartanDan on Nov 10, 2007 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

#54,So now we have a Strength of Loss Schedule!

by Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ on Nov 10, 2007 11:43 PM EST reply actions  

tOSUBuckeyes, I agree that in comparison to the other losses that other 1 loss teams have, this doesn’t look bad. But you are only looking at half of the equation. The reason people have been looking at Ohio State questionably and saying they have to win out to get in is because the Buckeyes have beat absolutely no quality teams.

Their OOC schedule sucked, they have no current top 25 teams on their resume and the Big 10 has done very badly out of conference. If not for the historical sucktitude of ND, the Big 10 would look even worse OOC.

So don’t look to the quality of the teams you’ve lost to, look to the quality of the teams you’ve beat. You’ve not beat anyone of merit. Have fun losing to ASU in the Rose Bowl.

by Chris W on Nov 10, 2007 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

  1. Exactly.

And, unfortunately, #60 Exactly, as well.

Mallette was terrible. I know you have to excuse some things due to freshman inexperience, but he was atrocious..underthrows, overthrows, and a general lack of mental presence at any point of the game.

by notthequarterback on Nov 10, 2007 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

Colt Brennan is a hot piece of ass even when he blows his nose.

by Skip on Nov 10, 2007 11:57 PM EST reply actions  

It is not MAO, it is MAU. MAU=quick or quickly in Vietnamese.

by CenTexTiger on Nov 11, 2007 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

F colt brennan…..actually i don’t mind colt. but i HATE JUNE JONES. 3rd most egotistical coach behind mike shanahan and charlie ate the chocolate factory.

i know hawaii winning out until boise state helps not only BSU but the conference, but i just can’t root for them.

oh in other news….BUTTHOLE COLLEGE LOSES! i dunno who i like worse….butthole college or hawaii.

by fattus on Nov 11, 2007 12:36 AM EST reply actions  

Let the record show, that the game between tOSU and the Fightin Redacti, that the Big 10, still, one year later, has no answer for an athletic, dual threat QB.
Offensive coordinators, take note….Juice Williams and Dennis Dixon are the poster children of how to beat tOSU and Michigan…..and a news update, Knowshown Moreno has just scored again on Auburn, and JPW has just thrown his second game …..all the way out of bounds and past the point of no return…lets see, a fumble at the most crucial part of LSU game, and a Pick 6 vs Croomster …..Tim Tebow just completed a pass to himself to score on OBC, againnnnnn, just pitched it up like Pitch up and Smear, except SC didnt do much smearin…..

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 11, 2007 1:56 AM EST reply actions  

Dear Buckeyes -

It’s time to drop the ‘t’

-The remaining 49 states, all territories, and protectorates

by Captain Awesome on Nov 11, 2007 1:58 AM EST reply actions  

Down goes Brennan — He’s on the ground and hurt after a big hit (it was clean).

by Gilbert on Nov 11, 2007 2:00 AM EST reply actions  

Brennan is now walking off on his own power. It took a while, but thankfully, he was able to get up and walk off.

by Gilbert on Nov 11, 2007 2:03 AM EST reply actions  

Darn, I wanted to see the Buckeyes vs LSU. I love creamed buckeyes. They’re great with gator or crawfish. Kinda’ like gravy on some real meat. Oh well, maybe next year or the year after or the year after. It’s hard to eat all those cupcakes w/o choking on one. Throw in a real conference championship game and they’d rarely be seen on the menu.

by Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ on Nov 11, 2007 2:23 AM EST reply actions  

About 11 months ago, I took it for granted that Jim Tressel was one of the great gameday coaches in college football. Now in those 11 months he’s been soundly outcoached by Urban Meyer and Ron Zook, two coaches who are… not exactly great gamecallers. So… yeah. Jim Tressel, welcome to the “questionable in big games?” club.

(Although, I suppose Urban shows flashes of good playcalling, especially when he has more than a week to prepare.)

by Troy on Nov 11, 2007 8:47 AM EST reply actions  

#71
I wouldn’t say he was soundly out coached by Zook. I think Zook’s athletes played better and made plays when they needed to make plays.

If losing by 7 to an up and coming team that is way underrated is the only blemish on a season where you are breaking in a new quarterback and guys all over the field who are replacing guys who left early in the draft last year, then I can live with that.

Especially this year with all of the carnage.

I think the Florida game and yesterday revealed just how much we miss Mark Dantonio and his defensive adjustments.

Give Illinois some credit, they ran the read-option to perfection and didn’t make any mistakes. I don’t care how good a team is, if another team prepares well enough and executes their game plan to perfection, even the best of teams can be beaten, just ask every team not named Kansas.

by The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes on Nov 11, 2007 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

#66
So dual threat quarterbacks are only successful in the Big Ten? Last time I checked no one in the Big 12 or USC had an answer for Vince Young – in fact, in 2005 we had them dead in the rights and they manage to get off the hook. Only 1 team had an answer for Tebow in the SEC last year. No one in the Pac10 seems to have an answer for Denis Dixon at Oregon.

Interesting side note:
2005: Penn State 12-1, 2006 Wisconsin 12-1, 2007 Ohio State 12-1? If we finish out 12-1 it will be the third year in a row that a team from the Big Ten only has 1 blemish and that one blemish coming from conference play.

Over the last 11 years:
1996 11-1 Ohio State (L Mich)
1998 12-1 Ohio State (L Mich St)
1998 11-1 Wisconsin (L Mich)
2005 12-1 Penn St (L Mich)
2006 12-1 Wisconsin (L Mich)

by The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes on Nov 11, 2007 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

#47: This may be one of the few time I will actually root for Duke to win a football game (against Notre Dame). And I’m a Heels fan who’s just the last of my teams slim bowl hopes crushed by the Wolfpack and a freak TJ Yates interception.

by Digital Headbutt on Nov 11, 2007 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

UNC never had a chance at a bowl game. But you probably are going to ruin our season next week…….

by Techie on Nov 11, 2007 11:57 AM EST reply actions  

tOSU,
I guess it all comes down to playing at least 6 games with opponents of ILLNOIS type caliber talent, thats what everyone is griping about….the waltz, the same song and dance to the Big Game, with only Michigan being the only real challenge, which remains to be seen, since they are missing key pieces to their puzzle. If Michigan beats OSU with out their key players, then it will be pure coaching on their part and OSU giving the game away. Everyone basically, after last years MNC game, where OSU was basically just gonna blow out Fla, and then things went terribly wrong for tOSU>
This year, the media, the fans, always were waiting for the other shoe to fall, if and when tOSU got there again this year and would be facing, in many peoples opinion, a much more talented group from the SEC this year than what Ohio State saw last year, and would expect the same results, barring bonehead coaching. It comes down to this, if your gonna be the heavy weight champion, you need to fight heavyweights, not
Glass Joe’s, then expect to jump in the ring with a Mike Tyson- in- his prime-natural born- killer and expect to win when you have never taken a real punch the whole year..thats just crazy delusional thinking….I am beginning to think alot of tOSU fans didnt see the same game the rest of the nation saw….based on the comments I read the score must have been 18-17, with a 6 FG from Fla since they couldnt move the ball on tOSU, not the 41-17 drubbing that it turned out to be…the In-n-Out Curse…..til someone from the Big 10 drubs LSU 41-17, we will then talk about Big 10 type of football….

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 11, 2007 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

For the record, Georgia is the best team to face LSU in the SEC championship, not Tennessee for damn sure.
Alabama and Auburn just need to get new QB’s and start the hell over, or just go ahead and spot their opponents 14 pts off soon to be turnovers

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 11, 2007 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

Ilinois type talent?

UI has played 3 teams that were/are in top 5. UI beats 2 of them. The third, against Mizzou, they were inside the 20 with less than a minute to win.

I know you SEC folks have a hard time understanding this, but you have a losing record against the B10 in bowl games since 2001, and for all of the talk about the NC, the SEC ended up 1-2 against the B10 last year.

Heard all year how overrated Wisconsin/PSU were, then they soundly beat the SEC west champs and Tennessee.

by Chris on Nov 11, 2007 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

Uh, Pelican Pants? You may not have noticed, but Illinois actually has talent this year. They came closer to hanging a loss on Missouri than anyone besides Oklahoma has. They beat Wisconsin and Penn State (both sitting at 8-3 right now). Just because they aren’t a traditional powerhouse doesn’t mean they aren’t good.

by SpartanDan on Nov 11, 2007 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t understand why CFN felt compelled to bring up Zook’s SEC mediocrity before expressing shock that he outcoached Tressell*. For all the outrage over his Florida record, he still had a much better record against the SEC than Tressell.

  • I know how to spell it. He just picks up an extra “L” when the SEC is involved. Llloyd says hi.

by Chg on Nov 11, 2007 1:35 PM EST reply actions  

I still don’t understand Illinois’ loss to Iowa.

Then again, they looked perfect yesterday and you have to remember that they do have weaknesses. Juice Williams can be horribly inconsistent and then the offense sputters. Still though, they should not have lost to Iowa.

by D-nice on Nov 11, 2007 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

You misunderstood what I said…they NEED to play at least 6 games against TEAMS with ILLINOIS TYPE TALENT(meaning GOOD(….like 6 games in the same season, not just 1 or 2 good teams, good talent teams,just like this one.. hey I know ILL. is good, thats what I am trying to say…run the gauntlet and then see where your at before you get ranked #1, by no ways a dig at ILL. at all.

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 11, 2007 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

I usually dont put much stock in Bowl games, since most of the times, there are coaching changes happening , players that are high draft picks sitting out, and most of the time the players are drunk…the only bowl game that matters is the MNC, thats what I gauge Conference dominance off of…. the best from one conference playing the “best” of another conference,not the mediocre stuff in the middle, the cream of the crop. I promise ya, the 2nd best SEC team is GA, not TN, and the third best is FLA, not TN.
IF TN gets to the SEC championship, expect a blowout from LSU, a warmup for whoever gets to #2…hopefully KU..they play solid mistake free disciplined football

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 11, 2007 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

D-Nice,

The Iowa game (on the road with a young team) was sandwiched in between two big home wins against Wisc and PSU and a night game the following week versus Michigan. Looked like a classic trap game. Zook’s game day coaching deficiencies were on full display that day too.

On two occasions he chose to accept penalties where the Illini made third down stops. On both occasions the Hawks converted, and on one they threw for a TD.

The Illini probably would have won the game but for a TE lining up incorrectly on a 70+ yard go ahead score late in the 4th. The Hawks did a great job containing Mendenhall as well.

by Duke of C-U on Nov 11, 2007 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

pelican pants …

You were right, I misinterpreted your post. My bad.

by Chris on Nov 11, 2007 6:03 PM EST reply actions  

Mr Pelican Pants said: if your gonna be the heavy weight champion, you need to fight heavyweights, not
Glass Joe’s, then expect to jump in the ring with a Mike Tyson- in- his prime-natural born- killer and expect to win when you have never taken a real punch the whole year..thats just crazy delusional thinking

Seriously Mr PP (ha ha ha!) I don’t think you look at all the facts.

  1. Florida whipped my Buckeyes damn good last year. They deserved the national title. Hats off to them. But to imply that the MNC was indicative of OSU’s play the entire season is BS. OSU didn’t get up for the big game and got beat. However, they had a 60 day layoff and a WR got injured on the first play who would have required sometimes double coverage, which would not have let your D run as wild at Troy Smith. Would Ted Ginn have meant an OSU victory? No but it would have changed the game plan. The 60 days off is a bigger factor. That is what ruins the MNC for me. Any team can lay an egg after 60 days off.
  1. if your gonna be the heavy weight champion, you need to fight heavyweights

Have you looked at OSU’s schedule? Last season they became the first #1 team to play 3 #2 ranked teams in the same season.

As to saying they don’t fight heavyweights, OSU did a home and home with Texas (who won the MNC and should have lost in Columbus). Next 2 years they do a home and home with USC. 2 years after that a home and home with Miami. After that a home and home with Virginia Tech. The Washington game this year was leftover from a home and home in the 90’s (when Wash was good)

Show me an SEC OOC schedule like that. OSU would probably schedule a home and home with an SEC team but none would be willing to leave the south.

You use the transitive properties to say that OSU doesn’t play anyone. Well you can make any argument you want using transitive properties, which fans always do while ignoring the same criticisms that could be made for their team (which is why we need a playoff)

For example. Kansas State nearly beat Auburn. Auburn beat Florida, and Nebraska beat Kansas State severely. Using your logic, Nebraska would kill Florida. See how ridiculous that is?

PS Someone asked "why is their someone in an Illinois shirt on the OSU sidelines? Don’t know if it was answered, and assumed everyone knew this, but the ballboy wears the opposing teams colors on their sideline so he is easily spotted by the refs.

Predict the MNC. I am going to say LSU will lay an egg, and Oklahoma will beat KS. So the MNC will be an Oregon team who plays no one, vs. Oklahoma.

by bnb614 on Nov 11, 2007 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

  1. Did you watch the Ark v Wisc game? Arkansas beat them everywhere but the scoreboard. Regardless of your idiotacy at least the frauds are out of the MNC picture.

by willet on Nov 11, 2007 7:16 PM EST reply actions  

With Les Miles returning to the Russian Roulette table I can’t help but think of Walken at the end of Deer Hunter every time I think of Les.

by Joe on Nov 11, 2007 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

#93, they didn’t beat them period. Congratulations on your moral victory.

by bnb614 on Nov 11, 2007 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

“Have you looked at OSU’s schedule? Last season they became the first #1 team to play 3 #2 ranked teams in the same season.”

2 of those “#2” teams were Michigan and Texas, who were both exposed as frauds. Texas with late season autoerotic asphyxiations against K-St. and A&M, and Michigan in their bowl game against USC.

The other #2 team was Florida, who pounded that Buckeye ass so harshly I almost felt bad for them. Almost.

So spare me the talk of their tough schedule. The only thing that little facturd shows is how flawed the voting system is.

by southernmost on Nov 11, 2007 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry southernturd.

You are right, when OSU plays 2 #2 teams in the regular season, they are frauds. Michigan loses their bowl game and is exposed as frauds. What does that say about Arkansas and Tennessee getting beat by Big 10 teams?

When a 2 loss Pac-10 team beats Tennessee, when a 3 loss Kentucky beats the best team in the SEC, when an unranked Auburn beats Florida, when an unranked Big East team and an unranked Miss St beats Auburn, etc , etc , etc , etc it just shows how damn superior the SEC is than everyone else.

Don’t let the facts interfere with your arguments.

by bnb614 on Nov 11, 2007 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

If you want to talk facts, go to the CFBDatawarehouse. Find all the facts you can to refute any claim that the SEC is the historically premier conference. Your fruitless search should effectively shut down this chain.

Also, if you are going to stoop to changing someone’s signature, at least be creative and genuinely funny. Your version of southernmost’s name might qualify as clever amongst your friends, but that really says more about you and your peer group than it does about your comedic talent.

by Chg on Nov 12, 2007 12:52 AM EST reply actions  

Also, if you are going to stoop to changing someone’s signature, at least be creative and genuinely funny. Your version of southernmost’s name might qualify as clever amongst your friends, but that really says more about you and your peer group than it does about your comedic talent.

Ooh zing.

It wasn’t meant to be creative, it was response to his using the same word to diss my post. Or didn’t you read up that far?

by bnb614 on Nov 12, 2007 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

In regards to your suggestion to check CFDataWarehouse, no thanks. I am sure I could find facts to back up any argument I wanted, just like you did. That is the problem with college football, in the absence of a playoff system people use facts to say whatever argument they want to make. It is how sports analysts get people inflamed enough to listen, and call in.

To use a movie quote:

“People want playoffs, Mr. President, and in the absence of playoffs, they’ll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone. They want playoffs. They’re so thirsty for it they’ll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there’s no playoffs, they’ll drink up twisted facts to make any argument.”
 
“People don’t drink up twisted facts because they’re thirsty. They drink up twisted facts because they don’t know the difference.”

by bnb614 on Nov 12, 2007 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

If the SEC is so lousy, what does that say about UF blowing out the Buckeyes.

by Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ on Nov 12, 2007 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

Top 3 SEC teams:
1. LSU
2. The new Georgia
3. Florida
Top 3 Big 10 teams:
1. Ohio State
2.Penn State?
3. Michigan
Top Big 12 teams:
1.Kansas
2.Oklahoma
3.Texas
Top Pac 10:
1.Oregon
2.ASU
3.USC
Big East:
1.WVU-thats it

 In a 4 team playoff after Conf. playoffs, who makes it and who wins out?
The four teams being #1 Lsu, #2 Oregon,#3 Kansas or Oklahoma or Mizzou, then WVU…or Kansas after a loss?
How does this play out in a perfect world?

Who can beat LSU out of all them?
I gotta say Big 12 looks good this year

by Mr Pelican Pants on Nov 12, 2007 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

Same thing it says about USF beating Auburn. Notre Dame beating UCLA, Colorado beating Oklahoma. Upsets happen.

by bnb614 on Nov 12, 2007 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

“Upsets happen.”

Are you kidding me, bnb614? That’s the best that you Big Ten shills can come up with? To refer to Florida’s blasting of Ohio State as an “upset?”

Sure.

(And BTW, enough with the revisionist history regarding Illinois’ loss to Mizzou. The Tigers went up 37-13 in that game and clearly let off the gas, and the Illini rallied to make the score respectable… nothing more.)

Props to Zook’s crew for getting the job done on Saturday (especially since it takes a little of the sting out of my team’s loss in Champaign two weeks ago), but let’s get a hold of ourselves here. The Illini may only be several plays from being undefeated, but they are also only a few plays away from being 5-6, too.

by Papa Lou BSU on Nov 12, 2007 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Are you kidding me, bnb614? That’s the best that you Big Ten shills can come up with? To refer to Florida’s blasting of Ohio State as an "upset?"

OSU was favored, Florida won. What would you call it?

Florida kicked their ass but it was still an upset based on pre-game predictions.

by bnb614 on Nov 12, 2007 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

So any game where the favored team fails to cover is an “upset” now?

An upset is when an undermanned squad drops a superior/better funded opponent, not when a clearly superior team mops the field with an inferior one that Vegas oddsmakers were trying to encourage betting on…

by Papa Lou BSU on Nov 12, 2007 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

Hindsight is 20/20.

Have fun at the Motor City Bowl.

by bnb614 on Nov 12, 2007 5:34 PM EST reply actions  

ohio state is consistently the most overrated team in the nation.

by 550lucia on Nov 12, 2007 7:16 PM EST reply actions  

550lucia, have you forgotten Notre Dame? Sure, they aren’t overrated this year [unless you think “worst team ever” is too kind for them, and it might be], but they usually are. Horribly so, I might add.

by SpartanDan on Nov 13, 2007 1:35 AM EST reply actions  

  1. Mr. Pelican Pants. Auburn best QB rides the pine and should be starting. He is a top 50 out of one FS Northside HS ( same one that Matt Jones played at) that NUtt failed to sign and lost to due to “year of the dog” book fall out fiasco. I now know how state of Texas felt when Friday Night Lights came out. Heard the writer was an Ole Miss grad, william Faulkner must be turning over in his grave. Ole Miss used to be Arkansas homecoming doormats when they were in the SWC. True freshman, Tigers at least have a QB for next 3 years while no one wants to play for NUtt.

 came off the bench when Miss State was pounding the shi** out of them, got them back in the game and then for some reason Tuberville put the other QB. Scary good, fast and smart.

by terri lynn on Nov 13, 2007 2:03 AM EST reply actions  

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